Considering the average amount of child support is $430 a month in the US, that isn't paying for any cosmetic surgeries. And even if a woman is getting a lot of child support, are the children living like shit, eating next to nothing and running around naked? If yes, why aren't these fathers reporting these terrible conditions to the authorities?
You're kidding right? CPS is a clusterfuck of failure and incompetence.
There are the courts and if a man can provide documentation, the children can be taken away by a judge.
ROTFLMAO.
on what planet?
listen dear, you're speaking to a single father who raised his kids since birth. If anyone here knows the ins and outs of that clusterfuck of failure it's me.
Not everything is about you and your situation. I don't think we should personalize what is happening in this country. I know there are good people that are hurt by institutions on both sides of an issue, but many, many, many more women are victimized by deadbeats.
Perhaps if these women made better choices in partners? I think you're bundling in losers who would never be able to take care of themselves let alone a child and/or multiple children with decent men who enter a marriage union with integrity and end up getting fucked over hard by an unrelenting, unforgiving and completely imbalanced court system
So let's isolate the groups and talk about how many men with decent paying jobs, were actually married to the mother and are honest law abiding citizens are being financially destroyed to the point of poverty & homelessness vs how many in that same group are actually victimizing their exes
I mean Big.......you can say the same for men. Shouldnt they have chosen better partners. We could say that same thing to every man getting fucked over by some prick of a woman.
You know people lie and scam and fool people. You know this. No one gets together with anyone thinking "this shitty person is gonna make my life miserable I cant WAIT!" Or "yeah baby....I cant wait for our first family court session".
I think there are some who simply chose a scum bag of a woman and got completely used, played and taken to the cleaners. It does happen.
But still men will tell some of the most ghoulish lies regarding their own children as some avenue to get sympathy and admiration from whatever woman they are trying to scam.....or get respect and sympathy from other men.
I would say once the relationship is over the only victims are the kids. You got two adults who made the decisions that brought them to that place. It would be nice if we didnt even have court involvement in family matters.....and people just did what's best for their children. And it's very unfortunate that some men ARE trying to do the right thing and get fucked up in court. These courts see so many scammers and dead beats that sometimes decent men do get a raw deal. I'm not saying that never happens. But in regards to every family going through the courts.. I doubt it's a regular occurence. Perhaps my view is jaded.
A typical day in the FOC(friend of the court) doesnt see these kinds of honorable men, Big. They see men like the stupid shits I've picked. I remember my aunt going with me to my first FOC court date where custody and child support were to be decided. This man sat next to us in the lobby. Started chatting us up.
He was dressed like a total slob(and this is court ffs). He was talking about his ex dragging him there for "bullshit", and joked that "FOC" stood for "friend of the cunt". Legit sat there and said this shit to me(you know....the cunt) and my elderly Christian conservative aunt....who was holding my infant(who is about to 18 now).
Then I got called in and went to go before the judge. While I was in there, homeboy wrote his number on a sticky note and gave it to my aunt to give to me. It said "I thought you were really beautiful and would like to know you, so call me" He spelled "beautiful" wrong. He drew a smiley face.
So this guy showed up to court looking slobby. Sat next to me and slammed his ex for "dragging him" there for "bullshit"(likely nonpayment of child support), bitched about how the courts just help women "fuck over" men(yeah....I'm a woman sitting there) and called it "friend of the cunt". And then gave his number to my aunt to give to my cunty self after i was finished fucking over my ex. Sign me up for that! Amazing this woman let that gem slip through her fingers.
That's the regular calibur of man coming through the family court system lol. Its definitely not loaded up with men like you, Big. Your ex was a fucking retard. Most women I know who have gone through it wouldnt have a single shred of sympathy for her considering what most single moms have had to deal with. Women who have genuinely and completely fucked over a man who doesnt cheat, always comes home, works hard to provide, is reasonable and generous, and who puts his children as his top priority....just do not get sympathy from any of us who had to go rounds with a lying scamming loser who only cares about his dick and how he looks.
Once you see how these men lie and play victim.....its incredibly difficult to trust any man with stories like this where he really is the one getting screwed. It just is. Because all of them claim they are being "fucked over". They all have excuses. So it really dilutes the credibility. You know these men exist...but who knows which ones they are.
You wouldnt believe some of the hateful shit men who claim they were fucked over by the courts have said to and about single moms on boards for this topic. And the more these men post the more info gets dropped and you see what kind of selfish, shitty husbands they were. Completely entitled. I feel like if he has spent more time jerking off to porn and whining that his wife....who has destroyed her body birthing his children.....isnt as hot as she was 3 kids ago and how she expects him to invest his time and energy into the family he chose to have, how shes wore out and "bitchy"... then he does spending time with his own wife and family..... he is not the "good guy" he wants people to believe he is. He is just entitled. And will whine and play victim.
You may or may not realize this, but you are coming from the place and experience many single mothers are. It's a rough and sad place.