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[jack]

I got into quite a discussion with you earlier in this

I despise radical conservatism - when have I ever denied that?
If one is a practitioner of islam, he/she is a muslim.
If it has been force upon them and they are not, then they aren't. Is that a difficult concept.

There. You can't have it both ways. Not all Muslims are radical, whether they follow "Islam" or not.

And that's where you got insulting.

 

[jack]

The idea that I would support some radicalized person that wants to kill others is ridiculous.

We still don't know what happened. I don't trust "the authorities" to do anything but spin shit to suit their overall objective.

For example...the FBI now insists that Jabbar acted alone. I don't buy that.

They also say the two events (The LV explosion) aren't connected. I don't buy that either.

How the FUCK does that make me an Islam sympathiser?

 

[The New Holliday]

I got into quite a discussion with you earlier in this

There. You can't have it both ways. Not all Muslims are radical, whether they follow "Islam" or not.

And that's where you got insulting.

LoLz - can you read? No, apparently not.
. Have I also written that only a small percent of any society are of the warrior class?

In islam, if you are an adherent, then you believe in the absolute infallibility of allah and its words which have faithfully been recorded w/o error. I have discussed this in the past. Look up Koranic inerrancy.
.Then, look up the words of violence that informs the islamic warrior class. Then know that to be a muslim, belief in koranic inerrancy is not optional. Therefore support of the imams and the actions of the warrior class are to be supported - all then are complicit.

 

[jack]

Have I also written that only a small percent of any society are of the warrior class?

That makes the entire class complicit?

 

[The New Holliday]

The idea that I would support some radicalized person that wants to kill others is ridiculous.

We still don't know what happened. I don't trust "the authorities" to do anything but spin shit to suit their overall objective.

For example...the FBI now insists that Jabbar acted alone. I don't buy that.

They also say the two events (The LV explosion) aren't connected. I don't buy that either.

How the FUCK does that make me an Islam sympathiser?

Calm down, jack. You'll soil you diapie.

 

[jack]

In islam, if you are an adherent, then you believe in the absolute infallibility of allah and its words which have faithfully been recorded w/o error. I have discussed this in the past. Look up Koranic inerrancy.
.Then, look up the words of violence that informs the islamic warrior class. Then know that to be a muslim, belief in koranic inerrancy is not optional. Therefore support of the imams and the actions of the warrior class are to be supported - all then are complicit.

That's NOT how it works. I know many Muslims. They read the Quran. They pray and attend mosque services. The believe in the prophet Muhammad. The are assimilated and peaceful. They don't wish to subvert the community to bend to their will or die.

You don't have to be a radical or part of the warrior class to be a Muslim. And YOU don't get to dictate that. I get what you're saying.

 

[The New Holliday]

jack, needs to learn to not lose his shit under fire. He's unraveling badly.

We're just here to have a good time, jack.

 

[jack]

jack, needs to learn to not lose his shit under fire. He's unraveling badly.

We're just here to have a good time, jack.

 

[Lily]

jack, needs to learn to not lose his shit under fire. He's unraveling badly.

We're just here to have a good time, jack.

What do you have left to say after you reveal yourself?

Nada, zilch, nothing...

 

[The New Holliday]

You don't have to be a radical or part of the warrior class to be a Muslim

I never said otherwise, and have already agreed with that.

The believe in the prophet Muhammad.

I do too. He was a militant, murderer and thief. You could look it up. Well that is if you believe he was a historical personage.

 

[jack]

jack, needs to learn to not lose his shit under fire. He's unraveling badly.

We're just here to have a good time.

So this is the passive part of your passive/aggressiveness?

I think I'm beginning to understand.

 

[jack]

I never said otherwise, and have already agreed with that.

I do too. He was a militant, murderer and thief. You could look it up. Well that is if you believe he was a historical personage.

As much as I believe in Jesus, or Moses. God is always shuffling his feet.

 

[The New Holliday]

What do you have left to say after you reveal yourself?

Nada, zilch, nothing...

Tell me why you never criticize islam in spite of it's 1400 year rampage of murder - killing hundreds of millions of others and subjugating and persecuting many more.

 

[jack]

Tell me why you never criticize islam in spite of it's 1400 year rampage of murder - killing hundreds of millions of others and subjugating and persecuting many more.

Not to deflect, but put USA in there while you're at it. Or China, or Russia, or Germany, or Isreal.

Why single one nation or ideology out? we're all like that. All complicit.

 

[The New Holliday]

As much as I believe in Jesus, or Moses. God is always shuffling his feet.

So you're on board with a religion which has murdered more people than any other ideology in the history of mankind? You are in total support. MAGA, jack - your philosophy is inconsistent.

 

[Lily]

Tell me why you never criticize islam in spite of it's 1400 year rampage of murder - killing hundreds of millions of others and subjugating and persecuting many more.

Hundreds of millions?

Mostly I don't point fingers because the history of the religion of my ancestors' religion, Christianity...Catholicism in particular.

 

[Lily]

Not to deflect, but put USA in there while you're at it. Or China, or Russia, or Germany, or Isreal.

Why single one nation or ideology out? we're all like that. All complicit.

Precisely. Humans are violent creatures.

 

[The New Holliday]

Not to deflect, but put USA in there while you're at it. Or China, or Russia, or Germany, or Isreal.

Why single one nation or ideology out? we're all like that. All complicit.

When yer bad yer bad, and it is to deflect, because they aren't the subject. Make a thread on their ills and we will probably agree., though for reasons I have already very clearly stated we are not all complicit while muslims are..

 

[jack]

So your on board with a religion which has murdered more people than any other ideology in the history of mankind? You are in total support. MAGA, jack - your philosophy is inconsistent.

I have no idea what you're getting at? I'm an American. How many native Americans did we slaughter indiscriminately? How many blacks, Latinos, Mexicans etc do we still subjugate?

I'm not on board with anything of the kind. We're all bozos on this bus, unfortunately. And it's Christians that own the Most Murderous" title (just my opinion)

 

[jack]

When yer bad yer bad, and it is to deflect, because they aren't the subject. Make a thread on their ills and we will probably agree., though for reasons I have already very clearly stated we are not all complicit while muslims are..

As the Jews like to say, "Oy Vey"

 

[The New Holliday]

I have no idea what you're getting at? I'm an American. How many native Americans did we slaughter indiscriminately? How many blacks, Latinos, Mexicans etc do we still subjugate?

I'm not on board with anything of the kind. We're all bozos on this bus, unfortunately. And it's Christians that own the Most Murderous" title (just my opinion)

..but as Americans, jack we do not have to agree with or stand in support of heinous crimes the government commits. A muslim, if he/she is truly that is bound by total belief in the infallible words of allah having been perfectly recorded and preserved (koranic inerrancy). I, you, anyone else can stand in the street protest our government's actions, and we do. That is our right. That is not true in islam. An adherent has no right whatsoever to question allah or its representatives.

Oh, and no Christian ever killed anyone in the name of spreading Christianity. I've gone over this in the past many times as well. There is nothing in the teachings of Christianity which permit that.

Condemn islam for it's actions, or admit that you, like so many others, are afraid to. Are you afraid a muslim will come to your door and cut your head off?

 

[Lily]

..but as Americans, jack we do not have to agree with or stand in support of heinous crimes the government commits. A muslim, if he/she is truly that is bound by total belief in the infallible words of allah having been perfectly recorded and preserved (koranic inerrancy). I, you, anyone else can stand in the street protest our government's actions, and we do. That is our right. That is not true in islam. An adherent has no right whatsoever to question allah or its representatives.

Oh, and no Christian ever killed anyone in the name of spreading Christianity. I've gone over this in the past many times as well. There is nothing in the teachings of Christianity which permit that.

Condemn islam for it's actions, or admit that you, like so many others, are afraid to. Are you afraid a muslim will come to your door and cut your head off?

Christians have absolutely killed in the name of Christianity.

You need to be introduced to the Americas...nevermind Africa. I mean ENTIRE continents, ffs.

 

[jack]

So it wasn't an itinerant PTSD mentally unwell untreated american war survivor that killed those people?

It was "Islam"?

 

[The New Holliday]

As the Jews like to say, "Oy Vey"

You know, because no one has to be a muslim. They can walk away, right? No consequence, and seek a greater truth, or more suitable path.

 

[Lily]

You know, because no one has to be a muslim. They can walk away, right? No consequence, and seek a greater truth, or more suitable path.

Like human rights' attorney, Amal Clooney?

 

[jack]

You know, because no one has to be a muslim. They can walk away, right? No consequence, and seek a greater truth, or more suitable path.

I don't know anything about that. Never encountered a muslim with a machete running around in my neighborhood to date.

 

[Lily]

I don't know anything about that. Never encountered a muslim with a machete running around in my neighborhood to date.

My college roommate's father was Egyptian and a practicing Muslim. She and her sister were raised Catholic by their British mother.

His descriptions of Muslims are a bit twisted.

 

[The New Holliday]

Christians have absolutely killed in the name of Christianity.

You need to be introduced to the Americas...nevermind Africa. I mean ENTIRE continents, ffs.

Nope. Never happened, but there have been people who called themselves by that name who did those things. No doubt. If you were educated to the subject you would know exactly what I am talking about. Tell me what teaching in the Christian philosophy permits or condones the spreading of the religion by the sword. Again - I have already gone through this so you should know.

 

[The New Holliday]

I don't know anything about that. Never encountered a muslim with a machete running around in my neighborhood to date.

So you don't know the consequence for apostacy in islam? You should look it up then tell me it doesn't really mean what it does.

 

[Lily]

Nope. Never happened, but there have been people who called themselves by that name who did those things. No doubt. If you were educated to the subject you would know exactly what I am talking about. Tell me what teaching in the Christian philosophy permits or condones the spreading of the religion by the sword. Again - I have already gone through this so you should know.

It's more atrocious to murder and subjugate people KNOWING that your professed religion condemns it.