Growing Up Trans In Trans Progressive Argentina

[Dove]

Narrow minded people are a pain in the ass, I concur. Especailly when you put a lot of effort into trying to interact with their claims and they dismiss it and label you.

Might I also add that suffering people and children who are questioning societal gender norms are not objects with which you use to show how not narrow minded you see yourself.

Narrow minded has a meaning


narrow-minded

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nar·row-mind·ed | \ ˈner-(ˌ)ō-ˈmīn-dəd , ˈna-(ˌ)rō- \
Definition of narrow-minded

: not willing to accept opinions, beliefs, behaviors, etc. that are unusual or different from one's own : not

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DDT simply stated a FACT. That is factual reality. He didnt really give an opinion on how the trans issue should or should not be viewed or dealt with.

When starting a fact gets people labeled.....you know their is probably no chance for any reasonable discussion.

Narrow minded isnt the position you take. It's how you handle and interact with beliefs that oppose your own. Stating a fact isnt narrow minded. Rejecting and labeling and being unable to understand opposing arguments is narrow minded.

You are sick of people challenging your stance or an ideology you support. You want to go uncritisized so anything that contradicts it you label negatively in order to dismiss it. What he said was a fact.... not a belief.

People having different hormones or chromos doesnt mean biological men can be women. Also most trans people have to take hormones to transition to the opposite sex. And the vast majority of these people probably do not have a chromosome abnormality. That's a weak argument. Its misusing science to support a religious belief.

Also intersex people or hermaphrodites are not trans.

If you guys are not narrow minded, than the issues that come with this gender ideology and self identification(especailly with children) and how it does indeed do harm should be easy to understand.

And you don't see yourself in that definition of narrow minded? Mmmmkay.

Not at all. I've invested hours into understanding the gender ideology behind this and the legislation and how it actually impacts people.

You guys just ignore, dismiss, and even label any opposition to this ideology as hate and bigotry.

Admin still doesnt understand why allowing men....any men...to self identity as women is really harmful to women and girls. Even after he has been shown several cases of women and girls being raped and assaulted in vulnerable female spaces.

So yeah being unwilling to understand and engage with any points or stances that are not on line with your own is narrow minded.

What you are doing is claiming that people who DONT agree with you are the narrow minded ones. Because you think your dogmatic belief in this ideology is the open minded thing to do. Because you are willing to accept something uncritically even if it's doing harm.

There are a lot of issues with this. It's not just "right wing"(btw shutting down discussion on the basis you think its "right wing" is also narrow minded).

Again narrow minded doesnt mean "disagreeing with a left wing stance". It means

narrow-minded

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nar·row-mind·ed | \ ˈner-(ˌ)ō-ˈmīn-dəd , ˈna-(ˌ)rō- \
Definition of narrow-minded

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This also doesnt mean you are narrow minded if you dont support something that negatively impacts a whole demographic of historically oppressed people like WOMEN and GIRLS.

So when I say I'm a woman that doesnt really mean anything anymore, does it? It doesnt mean "adult human female" now. It's a feminine identity that even men can be included in. Right?

I mean you guys are not even willing to acknowledge the rape and assaults of women and girls in female spaces as a result of men "self identifying" as women. Or the fact that since transwomen are male, and them self identifying as women doesnt change that men commit the vast majority of sex crimes. They are statistically just as likely to rape as any other male. And we see this.

This is impacting women in prisons, and women in immigration detention.....its not just bathrooms. Although there is TONS of trans porn of transwomen jerking off right out in the public female bathroom.

Why ignore all this? And label women who are speaking up for their rights and dignity?

So, what do we do about the harm that comes to women who are raped by cis males in male and female spaces alike? Should we outlaw cis males? Kill them all? Jesus, Dove. I don't know what it takes to reach someone who is as determined to ignore logic as you are.

We should definitely tie you to a fence post and whip you for veing so fucking stupid. "Rapes will still happen therefore we should not even attempt to do anything to prevent or minimize chances to rape." You truly are a fucking idiot, I mean that sincerely, dog shit.

You fucking misogynistic fool you Ogdim! Teh gotdamnit!!!

He did a GREAT job responding to true misogyny. Saying "cis men rape!" in order to keep ignoring all the self identified as women males raping women in prison and assaulting women and girls in female spaces isnt an argument. Its misogyny.

Js!

Dont make me repeat it!

 

[Dove]

Narrow minded people are a pain in the ass, I concur. Especailly when you put a lot of effort into trying to interact with their claims and they dismiss it and label you.

Might I also add that suffering people and children who are questioning societal gender norms are not objects with which you use to show how not narrow minded you see yourself.

Narrow minded has a meaning


narrow-minded

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nar·row-mind·ed | \ ˈner-(ˌ)ō-ˈmīn-dəd , ˈna-(ˌ)rō- \
Definition of narrow-minded

: not willing to accept opinions, beliefs, behaviors, etc. that are unusual or different from one's own : not

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DDT simply stated a FACT. That is factual reality. He didnt really give an opinion on how the trans issue should or should not be viewed or dealt with.

When starting a fact gets people labeled.....you know their is probably no chance for any reasonable discussion.

Narrow minded isnt the position you take. It's how you handle and interact with beliefs that oppose your own. Stating a fact isnt narrow minded. Rejecting and labeling and being unable to understand opposing arguments is narrow minded.

You are sick of people challenging your stance or an ideology you support. You want to go uncritisized so anything that contradicts it you label negatively in order to dismiss it. What he said was a fact.... not a belief.

People having different hormones or chromos doesnt mean biological men can be women. Also most trans people have to take hormones to transition to the opposite sex. And the vast majority of these people probably do not have a chromosome abnormality. That's a weak argument. Its misusing science to support a religious belief.

Also intersex people or hermaphrodites are not trans.

If you guys are not narrow minded, than the issues that come with this gender ideology and self identification(especailly with children) and how it does indeed do harm should be easy to understand.

And you don't see yourself in that definition of narrow minded? Mmmmkay.

Not at all. I've invested hours into understanding the gender ideology behind this and the legislation and how it actually impacts people.

You guys just ignore, dismiss, and even label any opposition to this ideology as hate and bigotry.

Admin still doesnt understand why allowing men....any men...to self identity as women is really harmful to women and girls. Even after he has been shown several cases of women and girls being raped and assaulted in vulnerable female spaces.

So yeah being unwilling to understand and engage with any points or stances that are not on line with your own is narrow minded.

What you are doing is claiming that people who DONT agree with you are the narrow minded ones. Because you think your dogmatic belief in this ideology is the open minded thing to do. Because you are willing to accept something uncritically even if it's doing harm.

There are a lot of issues with this. It's not just "right wing"(btw shutting down discussion on the basis you think its "right wing" is also narrow minded).

Again narrow minded doesnt mean "disagreeing with a left wing stance". It means

narrow-minded

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nar·row-mind·ed | \ ˈner-(ˌ)ō-ˈmīn-dəd , ˈna-(ˌ)rō- \
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This also doesnt mean you are narrow minded if you dont support something that negatively impacts a whole demographic of historically oppressed people like WOMEN and GIRLS.

So when I say I'm a woman that doesnt really mean anything anymore, does it? It doesnt mean "adult human female" now. It's a feminine identity that even men can be included in. Right?

I mean you guys are not even willing to acknowledge the rape and assaults of women and girls in female spaces as a result of men "self identifying" as women. Or the fact that since transwomen are male, and them self identifying as women doesnt change that men commit the vast majority of sex crimes. They are statistically just as likely to rape as any other male. And we see this.

This is impacting women in prisons, and women in immigration detention.....its not just bathrooms. Although there is TONS of trans porn of transwomen jerking off right out in the public female bathroom.

Why ignore all this? And label women who are speaking up for their rights and dignity?

So, what do we do about the harm that comes to women who are raped by cis males in male and female spaces alike? Should we outlaw cis males? Kill them all? Jesus, Dove. I don't know what it takes to reach someone who is as determined to ignore logic as you are.

We should definitely tie you to a fence post and whip you for being so fucking stupid. "Rapes will still happen therefore we should not even attempt to do anything to prevent or minimize chances to rape." You truly are a fucking idiot, I mean that sincerely, dog shit.

I normally dont emoji posts where Lotus gets insulted because she does notice that, and thinks I'm "liking" the post BECAUSE she was insulted and I feel like it just shuts down the possibility of any dialog.

But man fuck it on this one.

This one is too intense for me lol. Fuck.

Like gotdammit Lotus....you ARE a woman ffs.

 

[Dove]

OMG watch this one



DEAD

"Mancave" bahahahaha. This guy is hilarious lol

 

[Lokmar]

Leviticus 20:13
13 “‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

Someone needs to let God know.

Then you must die @Lokmar.

Cuz yer a closet homo!

Take the plank out of thine own ass FIRST, josephine!!!!

Time ta git in touch your 'Inner Homo' @Lokmar.

Better now than later, eh?

Quiet, ya Cucknadian faggit. No matter how often you project, you're still a beta.

And yer one a those Soldier of Fortune wannabes....Lokmeer!

I'll betcha wear a pink apron when ya clutch yer guns as yer wife cuckolds ya ta clean out the garage, eh? :D

Like any real mans garage, mine is filled with all my tools cars, and other assorted things that would make your baby shit soft hands bleed. My wifes domain is the basement......although I have next seasons race tires stored there because its warm.

Weird. My son's garage is full of tools, and he actually works with them. He also has a lot of gay and poc friends. My husband also has a lot of tools and he uses them. Both of them are also very strong. And neither one of them likes soy milk. And they both vote progressive. What a topsy turvey world.

Your whole family is mental and loves faggits. What a surprise.

 

[Dove]

Here is a video that responds perfectly to the OP



Perfect

 

[Dove]

If you read Keira Bell’s story, she says at various points: ‘I had my doubts but I gained courage from the internet.’
“I think there is a need for safeguarding guidance on protecting children from information that will encourage them down an experimental medical pathway.”
The role of social media has been cited as a possible factor in the sharp rise in the number of young people approaching GIDS for help.
But many parents of transgender children discount it. One mother, who said she was now considering going abroad to obtain help, said her child did not “decide” on their transgender identity."

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[The Prowler]

Blurt is struggling with my questions so he feels his only option is to either ignore them or avoid them with childish insults.

I will try again, in case someone is willing to step up and try to explain their position:

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This is a fundamental point with all the trans people. That they "feel like a man/woman inside". They just know they feel like the different gender than their biological sex.

That must mean it feels different to be a man than it feels to be a woman.

Can anyone explain how it "feels" to be a woman? And how that differs from how it "feels" to be a man?

If this cannot be explained, then how can anyone accept it when a trans person says "I feel like a man/woman inside"?

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OMG. Is that a serious question?

Wow.

Yeah.

Try to answer it.

 

[The Prowler]

Can anyone explain how it "feels" to be a woman? And how that differs from how it "feels" to be a man?

If this cannot be explained, then how can anyone accept it when a trans person says "I feel like a man/woman inside"?

Can you explain it?

Only in physical ways.

I can feel what is is like to have a boner. A woman can feel what it is like to have a boner go into her vagina.

The only feelings that I can differentiate between what I feel and what a woman feels are in areas where we have physical differences.

But emotional feelings, no.

I think anger feels the same. Happiness. Fear. Excitement. Tiredness. All emotions feel the same as far as I know.

So I am putting it out there to the pro-trans crowd to enlighten me.

I have no idea why none of you seem to be willing to just answer the question.

 

[Dove]

Blurt is struggling with my questions so he feels his only option is to either ignore them or avoid them with childish insults.

I will try again, in case someone is willing to step up and try to explain their position:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

This is a fundamental point with all the trans people. That they "feel like a man/woman inside". They just know they feel like the different gender than their biological sex.

That must mean it feels different to be a man than it feels to be a woman.

Can anyone explain how it "feels" to be a woman? And how that differs from how it "feels" to be a man?

If this cannot be explained, then how can anyone accept it when a trans person says "I feel like a man/woman inside"?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

OMG. Is that a serious question?

Wow.

Yeah.

Try to answer it.

Theyll do that.

It's a tactic activists use to make people back down and feel shame and insecurity.

It's not gonna work....but it's like a reflex when they cant answer a question. They just gaslight you. Like you asked something crazy or stupid and you are a shameful bigot.

They refuse to have reasonable human conversations about a very dehumanizing and toxic ideology.

 

[DDT]

OMG, get over yourself. Why the fuck does it make a damn bit of difference to you, and why the fuck would you allow yourself to get so irritated by someone who just isn't the same as you? It's a fact (and there is evidence of it throughout the history of humankind) that not all people are born with the same hormonal/chromosomal makeup as everyone else. Fucking deal with it, hater.

I am so sick of narrow minded assholes I could puke.

I'm not irritated. I'm just stating biological facts. If a man wants to dance around in his living room wearing a dress and a wig pretending to be a woman, all the power to him!

But I cannot accept him as a woman, because he is not a woman.

It takes a man and a woman to create a baby. I think we all understand this, no? So some dude with a cock dangling down between his legs can somehow call himself a biological female now? Ya, I don't think so Tim!

 

[DDT]

Well, I feel like you're an idiot, but the only way you could really understand where I'm coming from is if you felt like you're an idiot, too.

Do you?

What if I woke up one day, and felt like a Negro? Would that make me a Negro? Would it be acceptable for me to claim to be a trans-Negro even though I'm exceptionally White?

If I demanded you respect my blackness... My Trans-Negroness... you'd think there would be something wrong with me, wouldn't you?

 

[Biggie Smiles]

Are you referring ta Blurt?

Blurt is a unique case... I do believe he views himself as a male. I also do believe he is attracted to the opposite sex.

So, I think he's just a cross dresser. It's his kink. His fetish. To pretend to look like a woman, without actually considering himself as one.

I guess that's what they refer to as 'Metrosexual'

Or batshit crazy

 

[Biggie Smiles]

Are you referring ta Blurt?

Blurt is a unique case... I do believe he views himself as a male. I also do believe he is attracted to the opposite sex.

So, I think he's just a cross dresser. It's his kink. His fetish. To pretend to look like a woman, without actually considering himself as one.

I guess that's what they refer to as 'Metrosexual'

No no. A cross dresser is a transvestite

or a disgusting sodomite
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[DDT]

There is a thing called clinical lycanthropy. It's when people believe they have become some sort of an animal (other than a human)...

It is treated as a mental illness, in a mental hospital, with mental pharmaceutical drugs. These treatments are usually successful, or at the very least helpful.

 

[Lokmar]

I dont understand why people cant accept that we should kill faggits.

 

[Oerdin]

I wonder if this is true.

 

[DDT]

I wonder if this is true.

I can't say for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was.

It starts with us being able to pick our gender, which is permitted now. Things won't end there though, trust me...

Next we'll be able to pick our race, since maybe I wasn't born the race that I currently feel I am. And next we'll be able to become horses or dolphins if we want to.

Clinical lycanthropy is currently a mental illness, but that can easily be changed in the DSM. They decided that gender identity disorder is no longer a mental illness, so they can do the same with lycanthropy...

 

[Oerdin]

Changing the DSM due to qctivist pressure was not a good thing.

 

[Dove]

Changing the DSM due to qctivist pressure was not a good thing.

Nope and its insanely harmful.

 

[Dove]

I dont understand why people cant accept that we should kill faggits.

Trans ideology is exactly what is gonna take down both LGB rights as well as womens rights.

A lot of gay people are rightly calling it homophobia, conversion therapy, gay shaming...et. And they are RIGHT.

And you see how this impacts women and girls.

None of people are willing to actually THINK about the implications or the impact on SOCIETY, and I dont think they care much. We all have to adjust and accept this ideology (religion) and redefine reality and rights and everything.

People calling this "equality" are delusional. It's not equality at all.....its just forcing shit on society that interferes with the rights of others.

Demanding validation from other people isnt "equality".....its fucking narcissism. And these people and activists are so self involved they are offended and furious if any part of this ideology is questioned, yet they want to push it right into society as a new norm and alter everyones language and rights. They want to redefine everyone. And it's all about them. They dont think about or even care about the impact on everyone else.

I see no reason why we should even consider people like this who will shit on you, call for violence against you, degrade and attack you because you state a biological reality or question any of the changes they are trying to push under the mask of "equality". They are not reasonable or empathetic at all.

 

[Adam Hitler]

Well Blurt just had his skirt lifted up and rainbow panties pulled down in front of everyone on the entire forum...

 

[Dove]

Here is a great counter point video done by a scary scary "radical" feminist TERF monster



Most of the gender propaganda dies here.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

I wonder if this is true.

Admong identifies as a walking talking cock

So his preferred greeting would be you spitting at him when you see him

 

[LotusBud]

Well Blurt just had his skirt lifted up and rainbow panties pulled down in front of everyone on the entire forum...

Or, not.

 

[Lokmar]

I dont understand why people cant accept that we should kill faggits.

Trans ideology is exactly what is gonna take down both LGB rights as well as womens rights.

A lot of gay people are rightly calling it homophobia, conversion therapy, gay shaming...et. And they are RIGHT.

And you see how this impacts women and girls.

None of people are willing to actually THINK about the implications or the impact on SOCIETY, and I dont think they care much. We all have to adjust and accept this ideology (religion) and redefine reality and rights and everything.

People calling this "equality" are delusional. It's not equality at all.....its just forcing shit on society that interferes with the rights of others.

Demanding validation from other people isnt "equality".....its fucking narcissism. And these people and activists are so self involved they are offended and furious if any part of this ideology is questioned, yet they want to push it right into society as a new norm and alter everyones language and rights. They want to redefine everyone. And it's all about them. They dont think about or even care about the impact on everyone else.

I see no reason why we should even consider people like this who will shit on you, call for violence against you, degrade and attack you because you state a biological reality or question any of the changes they are trying to push under the mask of "equality". They are not reasonable or empathetic at all.

I've said this exact shit was going to happen for decades due to tolerating faggits and now we're here. I also said that child molesters would be normalized 25+ years ago and look at where the next big push is!

 

[The Prowler]

Can anyone explain how it "feels" to be a woman? And how that differs from how it "feels" to be a man?

If this cannot be explained, then how can anyone accept it when a trans person says "I feel like a man/woman inside"?

Can you explain it?

Only in physical ways.

I can feel what is is like to have a boner. A woman can feel what it is like to have a boner go into her vagina.

The only feelings that I can differentiate between what I feel and what a woman feels are in areas where we have physical differences.

But emotional feelings, no.

I think anger feels the same. Happiness. Fear. Excitement. Tiredness. All emotions feel the same as far as I know.

So I am putting it out there to the pro-trans crowd to enlighten me.

I have no idea why none of you seem to be willing to just answer the question.

Still waiting for any of the pro-trans people to weigh-in on this.

Blurt?

LotusBud?

Why are you so resistant to explain it?

Can anyone explain how it "feels" to be a woman? And how that differs from how it "feels" to be a man?

 

[Biggie Smiles]

Can anyone explain how it "feels" to be a woman? And how that differs from how it "feels" to be a man?

If this cannot be explained, then how can anyone accept it when a trans person says "I feel like a man/woman inside"?

Can you explain it?

Only in physical ways.

I can feel what is is like to have a boner. A woman can feel what it is like to have a boner go into her vagina.

The only feelings that I can differentiate between what I feel and what a woman feels are in areas where we have physical differences.

But emotional feelings, no.

I think anger feels the same. Happiness. Fear. Excitement. Tiredness. All emotions feel the same as far as I know.

So I am putting it out there to the pro-trans crowd to enlighten me.

I have no idea why none of you seem to be willing to just answer the question.

Still waiting for any of the pro-trans people to weigh-in on this.

Blurt?

LotusBud?

Why are you so resistant to explain it?

Can anyone explain how it "feels" to be a woman? And how that differs from how it "feels" to be a man?

Admong once admitted on another forum far far away that his PP is so small it felt like a woman's clit when he touched it

maybe this is what these transdegenerates are talking about?

 

[Dove]

Can anyone explain how it "feels" to be a woman? And how that differs from how it "feels" to be a man?

If this cannot be explained, then how can anyone accept it when a trans person says "I feel like a man/woman inside"?

Can you explain it?

Only in physical ways.

I can feel what is is like to have a boner. A woman can feel what it is like to have a boner go into her vagina.

The only feelings that I can differentiate between what I feel and what a woman feels are in areas where we have physical differences.

But emotional feelings, no.

I think anger feels the same. Happiness. Fear. Excitement. Tiredness. All emotions feel the same as far as I know.

So I am putting it out there to the pro-trans crowd to enlighten me.

I have no idea why none of you seem to be willing to just answer the question.

Still waiting for any of the pro-trans people to weigh-in on this.

Blurt?

LotusBud?

Why are you so resistant to explain it?

Can anyone explain how it "feels" to be a woman? And how that differs from how it "feels" to be a man?

Theyll say it not worth it because we are too "closed minded/ignorant/bigoted/stupid"

Even though we have perfectly valid and solid reasons and points.

They know they are wrong. They dont care. It's a religion.

 

[The Prowler]

Blurt?

LotusBud?

Why are you so resistant to explain it?

Can anyone explain how it "feels" to be a woman? And how that differs from how it "feels" to be a man?

 

[Adam Hitler]

Well Blurt just had his skirt lifted up and rainbow panties pulled down in front of everyone on the entire forum...

Or, not.

Well you would disagree wouldn't you, little miss contrary.