Is Dovey Pregnant?

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That is what you base your opinion on, a faith that only ever robbed you of your ability to form an opinion Dovey.

My stance is based on scientific facts. YOU are obsessed with religion because you got shit for arguments outside of wailing about religion.

So a foetus can survive outside its mother? When does dat medically transpire?

Unlessly 21 weeks. That's when we have the technology possible.

What does it matter "surviving outside the mother"? If I launched your dumb ass into outer space you wouldn't be viable anymore. That doesn't mean I can kill you right now.
 

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Blandy show me a person who can live if I hold their head underwater for an hour.

Poof....I just successfully argued for legalizing murder.
 
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That is what you base your opinion on, a faith that only ever robbed you of your ability to form an opinion Dovey.

My stance is based on scientific facts. YOU are obsessed with religion because you got shit for arguments outside of wailing about religion.

So a foetus can survive outside its mother? When does dat medically transpire?

Unlessly 21 weeks. That's when we have the technology possible.

What does it matter "surviving outside the mother"? If I launched your dumb ass into outer space you wouldn't be viable anymore. That doesn't mean I can kill you right now.


So an abortion is a viable option until 21 weeks?
 

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That is what you base your opinion on, a faith that only ever robbed you of your ability to form an opinion Dovey.

My stance is based on scientific facts. YOU are obsessed with religion because you got shit for arguments outside of wailing about religion.

So a foetus can survive outside its mother? When does dat medically transpire?

Unlessly 21 weeks. That's when we have the technology possible.

What does it matter "surviving outside the mother"? If I launched your dumb ass into outer space you wouldn't be viable anymore. That doesn't mean I can kill you right now.


So an abortion is a viable option until 21 weeks?

No, Bland. I dont think pur human rights depend how "viable" we are if we are removed from the environment we are designed to be in.

If you were on life support and expected to fully recover......but you needed life support for 6 months.....do you have human rights during those 6 months or can we kill you because you are not currently viable?
 
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You talk like you know what history has never proved, you have faith don't ye...and what was that designed for but to keep you submissive.
 

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He won't, because you argue the absolute opposite of what he purportedly preached Dovey.

We are not discussing religion or Jesus. We are discussing abortion.

Your opinions on Christianity are beyond moronic and rooted in your anti religious bigotry. So I'm not interested in anything you have to say on.

Let's argue from science and logic. I will wreck you on secular grounds.
 
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That is what you base your opinion on, a faith that only ever robbed you of your ability to form an opinion Dovey.

My stance is based on scientific facts. YOU are obsessed with religion because you got shit for arguments outside of wailing about religion.

So a foetus can survive outside its mother? When does dat medically transpire?

Unlessly 21 weeks. That's when we have the technology possible.

What does it matter "surviving outside the mother"? If I launched your dumb ass into outer space you wouldn't be viable anymore. That doesn't mean I can kill you right now.


So an abortion is a viable option until 21 weeks?

No, Bland. I dont think pur human rights depend how "viable" we are if we are removed from the environment we are designed to be in.

If you were on life support and expected to fully recover......but you needed life support for 6 months.....do you have human rights during those 6 months or can we kill you because you are not currently viable?


You just said a foetus is not viable until 21 weeks. So not a problem, it can be aborted, because it isn't life.
 
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He won't, because you argue the absolute opposite of what he purportedly preached Dovey.

We are not discussing religion or Jesus. We are discussing abortion.

Your opinions on Christianity are beyond moronic and rooted in your anti religious bigotry. So I'm not interested in anything you have to say on.

Let's argue from science and logic.


No we are discussing Jesus, because that's what alighted you at this opinion, an opinion that Jesus would abhor.
 

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Elective abortion are done in free standing clinics by abortionists who have no hospital admission priviledges. These are not done in hospitals, not offered by OBs, are not a normal "healthcare" service.

Can you see the problem here?

You talk about marginalising women but the current system marginalises womens healthcare at it's core by separating abortion from other OBGYN practices. If you agree that some abortion should be available for medical reasons and in the case of rape wouldn't these still be carried out in non medical surroundings thereby lowering the standard of care?

Also when does a baby exist Is it at the moment of conception which seems to be the argument here? If that is the case then both the mini pill and emergency contraception should be banned. One of the ways the mini pill works is that it doesn't allow a fertilised egg to attach to the uterus wall. Is that abortion?

As for the morning after pill

'Keep in mind that fertilization (the union of female ovum, or egg, and male sperm) occurs in the fallopian tube and that fertilization marks the beginning of a new human life - and the beginning of the pregnancy. The newly created child then travels down the fallopian tube to the uterus (womb) where he or she implants. Implantation is necessary for the new child to receive nourishment from the mother and continue developing. The journey from the fallopian tube to the womb takes between five and seven days during which pregnancy cannot be readily detected.
Therefore, if a woman ingests emergency contraception after fertilization has taken place, the third mode of action can occur. The lining of the uterus can be altered causing the woman's body to reject the living human embryo, making implantation impossible and the child will die. This result is called a chemical abortion; therefore emergency contraception is an abortifacient'.


This from a Catholic website called morningafterpill.org. Not exactly unbiased but no views here are unbiased anyway. So is a child fertilisation? It seems to be what is being said and if so it has to be taken that the morning after pill should be outlawed.

Is that right and fair? If not then abortion should be allowed. It's the only answer.

Actually why not define women who fail to fulfill their motherly duty by having their eggs fertilized & subsequently menstruating as abortionists too?

Where does this obsessive insanity end?

I think there's even a passage in the Bible that a man who ejaculates and throws his sperm on the ground as having committed sin hence thrown away a potential life as well.

You are talking a specific man who God specifically told to impregnate his brother's widow who instead pulled out.

It was about disobeying a direct command from God. It had nothing to do with wasting sperm or "potential life" or any of that nonsense.

The major problem I see with religious fundamentalists like yourself is that you move the goalposts around and arbitrarily have decided where the line in the sand is.

Where does life begin?

What constitutes an abortion or a permissile medical procedure?

You see the fundamentalists have no objective legal or even moral standard. So anyone can interpret statutes or religious passages anyway they want.
 

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He won't, because you argue the absolute opposite of what he purportedly preached Dovey.

We are not discussing religion or Jesus. We are discussing abortion.

Your opinions on Christianity are beyond moronic and rooted in your anti religious bigotry. So I'm not interested in anything you have to say on.

Let's argue from science and logic.


No we are discussing Jesus, because that's what alighted you at this opinion, an opinion that Jesus would abhor.

No, we are discussing ABORTION you fucking idiot.

This isnt about your childish issues with people who have religious beliefs you dont like

This thread is about Roe and abortion. Stay on topic bitch.
 
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He won't, because you argue the absolute opposite of what he purportedly preached Dovey.

We are not discussing religion or Jesus. We are discussing abortion.

Your opinions on Christianity are beyond moronic and rooted in your anti religious bigotry. So I'm not interested in anything you have to say on.

Let's argue from science and logic.


No we are discussing Jesus, because that's what alighted you at this opinion, an opinion that Jesus would abhor.

No, we are discussing ABORTION you fucking idiot.

This isnt about your childish issues with people who have religious beliefs you dont like

This thread is about Roe and abortion. Stay on topic bitch.


Was it your dad or your uncles?
 

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