Some might say that believing in the Bible makes you a Christian, but reading the whole damn thing AND understanding it makes you an Atheist.
Some might say that believing in the Bible makes you a Christian, but reading the whole damn thing AND understanding it makes you an Atheist.
Some might say that believing in the Bible makes you a Christian, but reading the whole damn thing AND understanding it makes you an Atheist.
I've read the whole thing and worked hard to understand it and it made me much less an atheist.
How on earth could anyone read it, understand it, and having it make them be atheist?
Most atheists I've encountered claim theyve read the bible front to back several times. But then they claim things about it that are absurd. Like saying the Adam and Eve story is impossible because they only had three sons. Stuff like that that makes it very obvious theyve never read it at all and do not understand it at all. They spit out cherry picked verses and assign meanings to them that are just not at all what its saying.
And if you correct them they claim you are "explaining it away".
And their view on who and what God is is VERY off and superficial.
Some might say that believing in the Bible makes you a Christian, but reading the whole damn thing AND understanding it makes you an Atheist.
I've read the whole thing and worked hard to understand it and it made me much less an atheist.
How on earth could anyone read it, understand it, and having it make them be atheist?
Most atheists I've encountered claim theyve read the bible front to back several times. But then they claim things about it that are absurd. Like saying the Adam and Eve story is impossible because they only had three sons. Stuff like that that makes it very obvious theyve never read it at all and do not understand it at all. They spit out cherry picked verses and assign meanings to them that are just not at all what its saying.
And if you correct them they claim you are "explaining it away".
And their view on who and what God is is VERY off and superficial.
I tried to read through it but I got bored & dozed off @Dove y. Subsequently I did not find God & religion didn't find me.
Some might say that believing in the Bible makes you a Christian, but reading the whole damn thing AND understanding it makes you an Atheist.
I've read the whole thing and worked hard to understand it and it made me much less an atheist.
How on earth could anyone read it, understand it, and having it make them be atheist?
Most atheists I've encountered claim theyve read the bible front to back several times. But then they claim things about it that are absurd. Like saying the Adam and Eve story is impossible because they only had three sons. Stuff like that that makes it very obvious theyve never read it at all and do not understand it at all. They spit out cherry picked verses and assign meanings to them that are just not at all what its saying.
And if you correct them they claim you are "explaining it away".
And their view on who and what God is is VERY off and superficial.
I tried to read through it but I got bored & dozed off @Dove y. Subsequently I did not find God & religion didn't find me.
Well it matters what translation you start with. Probably the easiest one to follow if you are a Bible newb is the Life Recovery Bible.
Real study of scripture is tedious sometimes and you do really need to understand HOW to read it. It's an ancient text written through the lense of that ancient culture. It's still very relevant....but it can take some work to really dig in and understand all its layers and meanings.
Its several books written by several authors over a period of thousands of years. Hermeneutics are essential. Like Jesus said, seek and you'll find. Knock and it will he opened.
It's so worth it. Start with just one book. Read it and learn everything about it. It's fun and interesting. My favorite OT books are books of the prophets....Isaiah and Hosea. They both prophesy of Christ. (Most of the OT does lol)
Some might say that believing in the Bible makes you a Christian, but reading the whole damn thing AND understanding it makes you an Atheist.
I've read the whole thing and worked hard to understand it and it made me much less an atheist.
How on earth could anyone read it, understand it, and having it make them be atheist?
Most atheists I've encountered claim theyve read the bible front to back several times. But then they claim things about it that are absurd. Like saying the Adam and Eve story is impossible because they only had three sons. Stuff like that that makes it very obvious theyve never read it at all and do not understand it at all. They spit out cherry picked verses and assign meanings to them that are just not at all what its saying.
And if you correct them they claim you are "explaining it away".
And their view on who and what God is is VERY off and superficial.
I tried to read through it but I got bored & dozed off @Dove y. Subsequently I did not find God & religion didn't find me.
Well it matters what translation you start with. Probably the easiest one to follow if you are a Bible newb is the Life Recovery Bible.
Real study of scripture is tedious sometimes and you do really need to understand HOW to read it. It's an ancient text written through the lense of that ancient culture. It's still very relevant....but it can take some work to really dig in and understand all its layers and meanings.
Its several books written by several authors over a period of thousands of years. Hermeneutics are essential. Like Jesus said, seek and you'll find. Knock and it will he opened.
It's so worth it. Start with just one book. Read it and learn everything about it. It's fun and interesting. My favorite OT books are books of the prophets....Isaiah and Hosea. They both prophesy of Christ. (Most of the OT does lol)
Some might say that believing in the Bible makes you a Christian, but reading the whole damn thing AND understanding it makes you an Atheist.
I've read the whole thing and worked hard to understand it and it made me much less an atheist.
How on earth could anyone read it, understand it, and having it make them be atheist?
Most atheists I've encountered claim theyve read the bible front to back several times. But then they claim things about it that are absurd. Like saying the Adam and Eve story is impossible because they only had three sons. Stuff like that that makes it very obvious theyve never read it at all and do not understand it at all. They spit out cherry picked verses and assign meanings to them that are just not at all what its saying.
And if you correct them they claim you are "explaining it away".
And their view on who and what God is is VERY off and superficial.
I tried to read through it but I got bored & dozed off @Dove y. Subsequently I did not find God & religion didn't find me.
Well it matters what translation you start with. Probably the easiest one to follow if you are a Bible newb is the Life Recovery Bible.
Real study of scripture is tedious sometimes and you do really need to understand HOW to read it. It's an ancient text written through the lense of that ancient culture. It's still very relevant....but it can take some work to really dig in and understand all its layers and meanings.
Its several books written by several authors over a period of thousands of years. Hermeneutics are essential. Like Jesus said, seek and you'll find. Knock and it will he opened.
It's so worth it. Start with just one book. Read it and learn everything about it. It's fun and interesting. My favorite OT books are books of the prophets....Isaiah and Hosea. They both prophesy of Christ. (Most of the OT does lol)
Liar @Joe cannot make it through a 50 word post.
You think he can will make it through The Bible?
Hahahaha!!!!
Some might say that believing in the Bible makes you a Christian, but reading the whole damn thing AND understanding it makes you an Atheist.
I've read the whole thing and worked hard to understand it and it made me much less an atheist.
How on earth could anyone read it, understand it, and having it make them be atheist?
Most atheists I've encountered claim theyve read the bible front to back several times. But then they claim things about it that are absurd. Like saying the Adam and Eve story is impossible because they only had three sons. Stuff like that that makes it very obvious theyve never read it at all and do not understand it at all. They spit out cherry picked verses and assign meanings to them that are just not at all what its saying.
And if you correct them they claim you are "explaining it away".
And their view on who and what God is is VERY off and superficial.
I tried to read through it but I got bored & dozed off @Dove y. Subsequently I did not find God & religion didn't find me.
Well it matters what translation you start with. Probably the easiest one to follow if you are a Bible newb is the Life Recovery Bible.
Real study of scripture is tedious sometimes and you do really need to understand HOW to read it. It's an ancient text written through the lense of that ancient culture. It's still very relevant....but it can take some work to really dig in and understand all its layers and meanings.
Its several books written by several authors over a period of thousands of years. Hermeneutics are essential. Like Jesus said, seek and you'll find. Knock and it will he opened.
It's so worth it. Start with just one book. Read it and learn everything about it. It's fun and interesting. My favorite OT books are books of the prophets....Isaiah and Hosea. They both prophesy of Christ. (Most of the OT does lol)
I thought the most relevant story in the Bible was Noahs Ark cuz it's about preparing for a rainy day.
Some might say that believing in the Bible makes you a Christian, but reading the whole damn thing AND understanding it makes you an Atheist.
I've read the whole thing and worked hard to understand it and it made me much less an atheist.
How on earth could anyone read it, understand it, and having it make them be atheist?
Most atheists I've encountered claim theyve read the bible front to back several times. But then they claim things about it that are absurd. Like saying the Adam and Eve story is impossible because they only had three sons. Stuff like that that makes it very obvious theyve never read it at all and do not understand it at all. They spit out cherry picked verses and assign meanings to them that are just not at all what its saying.
And if you correct them they claim you are "explaining it away".
And their view on who and what God is is VERY off and superficial.
I tried to read through it but I got bored & dozed off @Dove y. Subsequently I did not find God & religion didn't find me.
Well it matters what translation you start with. Probably the easiest one to follow if you are a Bible newb is the Life Recovery Bible.
Real study of scripture is tedious sometimes and you do really need to understand HOW to read it. It's an ancient text written through the lense of that ancient culture. It's still very relevant....but it can take some work to really dig in and understand all its layers and meanings.
Its several books written by several authors over a period of thousands of years. Hermeneutics are essential. Like Jesus said, seek and you'll find. Knock and it will he opened.
It's so worth it. Start with just one book. Read it and learn everything about it. It's fun and interesting. My favorite OT books are books of the prophets....Isaiah and Hosea. They both prophesy of Christ. (Most of the OT does lol)
Liar @Joe cannot make it through a 50 word post.
You think he can will make it through The Bible?
Hahahaha!!!!
Some might say that believing in the Bible makes you a Christian, but reading the whole damn thing AND understanding it makes you an Atheist.
I've read the whole thing and worked hard to understand it and it made me much less an atheist.
How on earth could anyone read it, understand it, and having it make them be atheist?
Most atheists I've encountered claim theyve read the bible front to back several times. But then they claim things about it that are absurd. Like saying the Adam and Eve story is impossible because they only had three sons. Stuff like that that makes it very obvious theyve never read it at all and do not understand it at all. They spit out cherry picked verses and assign meanings to them that are just not at all what its saying.
And if you correct them they claim you are "explaining it away".
And their view on who and what God is is VERY off and superficial.
I tried to read through it but I got bored & dozed off @Dove y. Subsequently I did not find God & religion didn't find me.
Well it matters what translation you start with. Probably the easiest one to follow if you are a Bible newb is the Life Recovery Bible.
Real study of scripture is tedious sometimes and you do really need to understand HOW to read it. It's an ancient text written through the lense of that ancient culture. It's still very relevant....but it can take some work to really dig in and understand all its layers and meanings.
Its several books written by several authors over a period of thousands of years. Hermeneutics are essential. Like Jesus said, seek and you'll find. Knock and it will he opened.
It's so worth it. Start with just one book. Read it and learn everything about it. It's fun and interesting. My favorite OT books are books of the prophets....Isaiah and Hosea. They both prophesy of Christ. (Most of the OT does lol)
I thought the most relevant story in the Bible was Noahs Ark cuz it's about preparing for a rainy day.
Oh no it's all relevant.
And yeah I believe a flood occurred. And also the Noah's arc is typology as well for Christ. As was the Arc of the Covenant.
I get it. I grew up in a Pentecostal kind of house....pretty dysfunctional but not horribly. I used to try to read my grandmother bible. I really wanted to believe in God but I just didnt. And....she had one of those King James versions and it was split with the Living word one.....so on one side you had King James and the other side was a much simpler ESV sort of translation. I couldnt get into reading it at all.
I had a huge 180, very drastic change later in life and I just had fire lit in me and I wanted to know what it was saying.
I think God has to give you that hunger for the knowledge of His word.
Some might say that believing in the Bible makes you a Christian, but reading the whole damn thing AND understanding it makes you an Atheist.
I've read the whole thing and worked hard to understand it and it made me much less an atheist.
How on earth could anyone read it, understand it, and having it make them be atheist?
Most atheists I've encountered claim theyve read the bible front to back several times. But then they claim things about it that are absurd. Like saying the Adam and Eve story is impossible because they only had three sons. Stuff like that that makes it very obvious theyve never read it at all and do not understand it at all. They spit out cherry picked verses and assign meanings to them that are just not at all what its saying.
And if you correct them they claim you are "explaining it away".
And their view on who and what God is is VERY off and superficial.
I tried to read through it but I got bored & dozed off @Dove y. Subsequently I did not find God & religion didn't find me.
Well it matters what translation you start with. Probably the easiest one to follow if you are a Bible newb is the Life Recovery Bible.
Real study of scripture is tedious sometimes and you do really need to understand HOW to read it. It's an ancient text written through the lense of that ancient culture. It's still very relevant....but it can take some work to really dig in and understand all its layers and meanings.
Its several books written by several authors over a period of thousands of years. Hermeneutics are essential. Like Jesus said, seek and you'll find. Knock and it will he opened.
It's so worth it. Start with just one book. Read it and learn everything about it. It's fun and interesting. My favorite OT books are books of the prophets....Isaiah and Hosea. They both prophesy of Christ. (Most of the OT does lol)
I thought the most relevant story in the Bible was Noahs Ark cuz it's about preparing for a rainy day.
Oh no it's all relevant.
And yeah I believe a flood occurred. And also the Noah's arc is typology as well for Christ. As was the Arc of the Covenant.
I get it. I grew up in a Pentecostal kind of house....pretty dysfunctional but not horribly. I used to try to read my grandmother bible. I really wanted to believe in God but I just didnt. And....she had one of those King James versions and it was split with the Living word one.....so on one side you had King James and the other side was a much simpler ESV sort of translation. I couldnt get into reading it at all.
I had a huge 180, very drastic change later in life and I just had fire lit in me and I wanted to know what it was saying.
I think God has to give you that hunger for the knowledge of His word.
Noahs Ark like a parable for catstrophic events like the invasion of Ukraine.
Everything s fine until something unexpected comes along & demolishes it.
So moral of the story is...if yer prepared you can weather the storm.
.Reading it, as many xtians here claim they have, does not make them, or anyone a Christian, which is a far more arduous process - and one I quite assure you none here have undertaken. It is a path for a select few, and select(ed) is the operative word there. None here are Christians.Some might say that believing in the Bible makes you a Christian, but reading the whole damn thing AND understanding it makes you an Atheist.
.Reading it, as many xtians here claim they have, does not make them, or anyone a Christian, which is a far more arduous process - and one I quite assure you none here have undertaken. It is a path for a select few, and select(ed) is the operative word there. None here are Christians.Some might say that believing in the Bible makes you a Christian, but reading the whole damn thing AND understanding it makes you an Atheist.
. Understandable that one upon reading it (the Bible) may say WTF! given how it was assembled - by the beast Constantine and his henchmen at Nicea (325 CE). Some of the writing is fine and representative, but it is what was included (with the deletions and modifications) and excluded that would lead any impartial reader to think it (the frankenstein religion - the BIG Tent bullshit and its bastard children, protestantism) was bunkus. Even at 5 or 6 years of age I was repulsed by the way it was taught to me, yet had a sense that there was underlying truth. So upon further investigation I understood and rejected the superficial (exoteric) nonsense about a young virgin who bore a son who was god, and he ministered, and pissed off the wrong people and died by crucifixion for our sins, then rose from the dead 3 days later (more Equinoctial Christology) etc etc. However there is some symbolism there, part of which I have previously explained as an illustration of the language of those early writers. Of course, our resident xtians will believe all the fairy tales, that god actually cares about you personally, or is even aware that you exist, and the saints cry when you masturbate etc etc.
.OH! and here is your one chance to get it right or spend eternity in Hell, blah blah. One can laugh or grimace at the absurdity depending upon disposition.
. Yet, as Fox Mulder correctly noted - The Truth is out there.
.Reading it, as many xtians here claim they have, does not make them, or anyone a Christian, which is a far more arduous process - and one I quite assure you none here have undertaken. It is a path for a select few, and select(ed) is the operative word there. None here are Christians.Some might say that believing in the Bible makes you a Christian, but reading the whole damn thing AND understanding it makes you an Atheist.
. Understandable that one upon reading it (the Bible) may say WTF! given how it was assembled - by the beast Constantine and his henchmen at Nicea (325 CE). Some of the writing is fine and representative, but it is what was included (with the deletions and modifications) and excluded that would lead any impartial reader to think it (the frankenstein religion - the BIG Tent bullshit and its bastard children, protestantism) was bunkus. Even at 5 or 6 years of age I was repulsed by the way it was taught to me, yet had a sense that there was underlying truth. So upon further investigation I understood and rejected the superficial (exoteric) nonsense about a young virgin who bore a son who was god, and he ministered, and pissed off the wrong people and died by crucifixion for our sins, then rose from the dead 3 days later (more Equinoctial Christology) etc etc. However there is some symbolism there, part of which I have previously explained as an illustration of the language of those early writers. Of course, our resident xtians will believe all the fairy tales, that god actually cares about you personally, or is even aware that you exist, and the saints cry when you masturbate etc etc.
.OH! and here is your one chance to get it right or spend eternity in Hell, blah blah. One can laugh or grimace at the absurdity depending upon disposition.
. Yet, as Fox Mulder correctly noted - The Truth is out there.
Holy Shit! I didn't know you were so imbued with the Doctrine.
Poor Holliday.
At least you understand the construct that was made of Christianity after Constantine decided to use it as a tool to cement together what was left of Romanitas after the disaster of Diocletian and the Tetrarchy. But it worked, and the polity that Constantine saved from the embers of dying Rome lasted for another eleven centuries until finally being snuffed out by the muslims in 1453.
Fucking muslims! They're worse than Registered Democrats. They ruin everything.
.Reading it, as many xtians here claim they have, does not make them, or anyone a Christian, which is a far more arduous process - and one I quite assure you none here have undertaken. It is a path for a select few, and select(ed) is the operative word there. None here are Christians.Some might say that believing in the Bible makes you a Christian, but reading the whole damn thing AND understanding it makes you an Atheist.
. Understandable that one upon reading it (the Bible) may say WTF! given how it was assembled - by the beast Constantine and his henchmen at Nicea (325 CE). Some of the writing is fine and representative, but it is what was included (with the deletions and modifications) and excluded that would lead any impartial reader to think it (the frankenstein religion - the BIG Tent bullshit and its bastard children, protestantism) was bunkus. Even at 5 or 6 years of age I was repulsed by the way it was taught to me, yet had a sense that there was underlying truth. So upon further investigation I understood and rejected the superficial (exoteric) nonsense about a young virgin who bore a son who was god, and he ministered, and pissed off the wrong people and died by crucifixion for our sins, then rose from the dead 3 days later (more Equinoctial Christology) etc etc. However there is some symbolism there, part of which I have previously explained as an illustration of the language of those early writers. Of course, our resident xtians will believe all the fairy tales, that god actually cares about you personally, or is even aware that you exist, and the saints cry when you masturbate etc etc.
.OH! and here is your one chance to get it right or spend eternity in Hell, blah blah. One can laugh or grimace at the absurdity depending upon disposition.
. Yet, as Fox Mulder correctly noted - The Truth is out there.
Holy Shit! I didn't know you were so imbued with the Doctrine.
Poor Holliday.
At least you understand the construct that was made of Christianity after Constantine decided to use it as a tool to cement together what was left of Romanitas after the disaster of Diocletian and the Tetrarchy. But it worked, and the polity that Constantine saved from the embers of dying Rome lasted for another eleven centuries until finally being snuffed out by the muslims in 1453.
Fucking muslims! They're worse than Registered Democrats. They ruin everything.
Constantine is always associated with Roman Catholism but he was more the Orthodoxy guy. Like the Byzantines.....right?
I'm not Catholic or Orthodox so my knowledge on the history of those churches is limited. I do know the Muslims attacked them and turned the Hagia Sophia into a mosque.
Why I'm just steeped in the Ol Timey, RaggzHoly Shit! I didn't know you were so imbued with the Doctrine.