What is happening to men in the Western world?

[Omnipotent]

I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

The truth be known, all the 'Real Men' are disengaging from todays society, droppin' out & doin' our own thing.

Sorry but you Ladies became too demanding & asked too much from us, Lily.

So we figured out if it's the End of Days, may as well enjoy what we can with the time we have left. No time for you Ladies anymore.

We' be retreated into our hobbies & other pursuits instead.

I suppose it's a bit like the monks who retreated into the monestaries during the European Dark Ages, eh? Except now the illumination of manuscripts hath been replaced with the XBox & gaming.

Self indulgent hedonism has replaced family values I guess.

Don't forget nuns running from men and yearly life threatening pregancies.... that is why convents were so full.

 

[Joe]

I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

The truth be known, all the 'Real Men' are disengaging from todays society, droppin' out & doin' our own thing.

Sorry but you Ladies became too demanding & asked too much from us, Lily.

So we figured out if it's the End of Days, may as well enjoy what we can with the time we have left. No time for you Ladies anymore.

We' be retreated into our hobbies & other pursuits instead.

I suppose it's a bit like the monks who retreated into the monestaries during the European Dark Ages, eh? Except now the illumination of manuscripts hath been replaced with the XBox & gaming.

Self indulgent hedonism has replaced family values I guess.

Don't forget nuns running from men and yearly life threatening pregancies.... that is why convents were so full.

From you Ladies...it seems to always be the Man's Fault.

Victim Blaming. You and your sisters are always the victims, always right and the man is always the bad one and always wrong.

Here's one persepctive entirely from a woman's POV in her own words about the current situation:




...just like large number of men sympathize with and understand that many women would want to avoid a state like Texas because it does not offer a fair deal to them with respect to abortion rights/laws, women should understand why many men are avoiding marriage now because it doesn't offer a fair deal to them either.

 

[Dove]

So Joe, you just refuse to accept that many women hate abortion?

That this TX was mostly women? You know the people did this....right?

The government doesnt just make laws. The people are the ones who drove this.

 

[Omnipotent]

I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

The truth be known, all the 'Real Men' are disengaging from todays society, droppin' out & doin' our own thing.

Sorry but you Ladies became too demanding & asked too much from us, Lily.

So we figured out if it's the End of Days, may as well enjoy what we can with the time we have left. No time for you Ladies anymore.

We' be retreated into our hobbies & other pursuits instead.

I suppose it's a bit like the monks who retreated into the monestaries during the European Dark Ages, eh? Except now the illumination of manuscripts hath been replaced with the XBox & gaming.

Self indulgent hedonism has replaced family values I guess.

Don't forget nuns running from men and yearly life threatening pregancies.... that is why convents were so full.

From you Ladies...it seems to always be the Man's Fault.

Victim Blaming. You and your sisters are always the victims, always right and the man is always the bad one and always wrong.

Here's one persepctive entirely from a woman's POV in her own words about the current situation:




...just like large number of men understand that many women would want to avoid a state like Texas because it does not offer a fair deal to them with respect to abortion rights/laws, women should understand why many men are avoiding marriage now because it doesn't offer a fair deal to them either.

You need to look up how dangerous being pregnant is and especially WAS before our lovely life saving hospitals came to be.

I think in reality there are more victims than actual successes. I think we love to hold up successes and aspire to be one but humans are delusional.

I think if we could get on top of alcoholism and drug addiction... MANY, MANY ills, would fall away overnight.

 

[Joe]

So Joe, you just refuse to accept that many women hate abortion?

That this TX was mostly women? You know the people did this....right?

The government doesnt just make laws. The people are the ones who drove this.

Texas can still make laws with a pro-life bias while still offering women and young girls better alternatives and not being so cruel and vindictive about it.

I'm not a woman, never can be pregnant, but as a man, even I find their new laws to be excessive and anti-democratic.

Were all stakeholders in this Texas abortion debate consulted to protect women's health, their psychological well being and children to acheive the best solution?

It doesn't seem like it.

 

[Breakfall]

I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

The truth be known, all the 'Real Men' are disengaging from todays society, droppin' out & doin' our own thing.

Sorry but you Ladies became too demanding & asked too much from us, Lily.

So we figured out if it's the End of Days, may as well enjoy what we can with the time we have left. No time for you Ladies anymore.

We' be retreated into our hobbies & other pursuits instead.

I suppose it's a bit like the monks who retreated into the monestaries during the European Dark Ages, eh? Except now the illumination of manuscripts hath been replaced with the XBox & gaming.

Self indulgent hedonism has replaced family values I guess.

Don't forget nuns running from men and yearly life threatening pregancies.... that is why convents were so full.

From you Ladies...it seems to always be the Man's Fault.

Victim Blaming. You and your sisters are always the victims, always right and the man is always the bad one and always wrong.

Here's one persepctive entirely from a woman's POV in her own words about the current situation:




...just like large number of men understand that many women would want to avoid a state like Texas because it does not offer a fair deal to them with respect to abortion rights/laws, women should understand why many men are avoiding marriage now because it doesn't offer a fair deal to them either.

You need to look up how dangerous being pregnant is and especially WAS before our lovely life saving hospitals came to be.

I think in reality there are more victims than actual successes. I think we love to hold up successes and aspire to be one but humans are delusional.

I think if we could get on top of alcoholism and drug addiction... MANY, MANY ills, would fall away overnight.

You think Aussie men are awesome (and the one South African expatriate) don’t you Caskur?

 

[Biggie Smiles]

So Joe, you just refuse to accept that many women hate abortion?

That this TX was mostly women? You know the people did this....right?

The government doesnt just make laws. The people are the ones who drove this.

Texas can still make laws with a pro-life bias while still offering women and young girls better alternatives and not being so cruel and vindictive about it.

I'm not a woman, never can be pregnant, but as a man, even I find their new laws to be excessive and anti-democratic.

Were all stakeholders in this Texas abortion debate consulted to protect women's health, their psychological well being and children to acheive the best solution?

It doesn't seem like it.

How is Texas being cruel and vindictive?

 

[Omnipotent]

Yep... I love tough men... and bossing them around is better.. When I was young and gorgeous.. Every man did my bidding but now I'm old, fat and partly stupid I have no powers left... good thing I made hay while sun the shone... I have my own resourses.

 

[Omnipotent]

Girls.... I have told Flea many, many times, DO NOT WASTE YOUR 40's... use your 40's to set yourself up for life... Look at yourselves 20 years from now, where do you want to be? Sitting in comfort or thrown on the dead meat pile?

Men should listen to me as well..

 

[Breakfall]

Yep... I love tough men... and bossing them around is better.. When I was young and gorgeous.. Every man did my bidding but now I'm old, fat and partly stupid I have no powers left... good thing I made hay while sun the shone... I have my own resourses.

I think we were all young and gorgeous back in the day...I loved being bossed around and treated like a dog sometimes. It was horny as fuck to be honest! I was always partial to the older ladies that knew a thing or three..

 

[Omnipotent]

So Joe, you just refuse to accept that many women hate abortion?

That this TX was mostly women? You know the people did this....right?

The government doesnt just make laws. The people are the ones who drove this.

Texas can still make laws with a pro-life bias while still offering women and young girls better alternatives and not being so cruel and vindictive about it.

I'm not a woman, never can be pregnant, but as a man, even I find their new laws to be excessive and anti-democratic.

Were all stakeholders in this Texas abortion debate consulted to protect women's health, their psychological well being and children to acheive the best solution?

It doesn't seem like it.

How is Texas being cruel and vindictive?

by turning monetarily poor women into slaves....The rich can always escape by plane to another state for safe medical services. The poor can't.

 

[Omnipotent]

I married a 6' 3" 48 inch chest athlete, dark hair, blue eyes, whose father was an Austrian Nazi (for real). My husband has A lister Hollywood movie star good looks but also he has an obsession with cars....omg...I hate that. Anyway, @Harry McKnackers has spoken with Kurt a few times..... Harry likes him.

 

[Omnipotent]

So Joe, you just refuse to accept that many women hate abortion?

That this TX was mostly women? You know the people did this....right?

The government doesnt just make laws. The people are the ones who drove this.

Texas can still make laws with a pro-life bias while still offering women and young girls better alternatives and not being so cruel and vindictive about it.

I'm not a woman, never can be pregnant, but as a man, even I find their new laws to be excessive and anti-democratic.

Were all stakeholders in this Texas abortion debate consulted to protect women's health, their psychological well being and children to acheive the best solution?

It doesn't seem like it.

It'll get reversed eventually. Slavery is illegal.

 

[LotusBud]

I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

The truth be known, all the 'Real Men' are disengaging from todays society, droppin' out & doin' our own thing.

Sorry but you Ladies became too demanding & asked too much from us, Lily.

So we figured out if it's the End of Days, may as well enjoy what we can with the time we have left. No time for you Ladies anymore.

We' be retreated into our hobbies & other pursuits instead.

I suppose it's a bit like the monks who retreated into the monestaries during the European Dark Ages, eh? Except now the illumination of manuscripts hath been replaced with the XBox & gaming.

Self indulgent hedonism has replaced family values I guess.

Don't forget nuns running from men and yearly life threatening pregancies.... that is why convents were so full.

From you Ladies...it seems to always be the Man's Fault.

Victim Blaming. You and your sisters are always the victims, always right and the man is always the bad one and always wrong.

Here's one persepctive entirely from a woman's POV in her own words about the current situation:




...just like large number of men sympathize with and understand that many women would want to avoid a state like Texas because it does not offer a fair deal to them with respect to abortion rights/laws, women should understand why many men are avoiding marriage now because it doesn't offer a fair deal to them either.

Wait. Did you just compare the right to abortion to men not wanting to get married?????????????????????

 

[Joe]

I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

The truth be known, all the 'Real Men' are disengaging from todays society, droppin' out & doin' our own thing.

Sorry but you Ladies became too demanding & asked too much from us, Lily.

So we figured out if it's the End of Days, may as well enjoy what we can with the time we have left. No time for you Ladies anymore.

We' be retreated into our hobbies & other pursuits instead.

I suppose it's a bit like the monks who retreated into the monestaries during the European Dark Ages, eh? Except now the illumination of manuscripts hath been replaced with the XBox & gaming.

Self indulgent hedonism has replaced family values I guess.

Don't forget nuns running from men and yearly life threatening pregancies.... that is why convents were so full.

From you Ladies...it seems to always be the Man's Fault.

Victim Blaming. You and your sisters are always the victims, always right and the man is always the bad one and always wrong.

Here's one persepctive entirely from a woman's POV in her own words about the current situation:




...just like large number of men sympathize with and understand that many women would want to avoid a state like Texas because it does not offer a fair deal to them with respect to abortion rights/laws, women should understand why many men are avoiding marriage now because it doesn't offer a fair deal to them either.

Wait. Did you just compare the right to abortion to men not wanting to get married?????????????????????

Well, there is a parallel, LB.

One side wants unfair divorce laws which overwhelmingly favor women.

The other side wants unfair abortion laws which overwhelimingly favor Rich White Men.

so what exists in the US are 2 polar opposites/extremes.

Extremism has a way of feeding off the other.

One side gets greedy, nasty, power hungry and vindictive, so the other bites back back and similary becomes greedy, nasty, power hungry and vindictive.

 

[Lily]

I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

The truth be known, all the 'Real Men' are disengaging from todays society, droppin' out & doin' our own thing.

Sorry but you Ladies became too demanding & asked too much from us, Lily.

So we figured out if it's the End of Days, may as well enjoy what we can with the time we have left. No time for you Ladies anymore.

We' be retreated into our hobbies & other pursuits instead.

I suppose it's a bit like the monks who retreated into the monestaries during the European Dark Ages, eh? Except now the illumination of manuscripts hath been replaced with the XBox & gaming.

Self indulgent hedonism has replaced family values I guess.

Don't forget nuns running from men and yearly life threatening pregancies.... that is why convents were so full.

From you Ladies...it seems to always be the Man's Fault.

Victim Blaming. You and your sisters are always the victims, always right and the man is always the bad one and always wrong.

Here's one persepctive entirely from a woman's POV in her own words about the current situation:




...just like large number of men sympathize with and understand that many women would want to avoid a state like Texas because it does not offer a fair deal to them with respect to abortion rights/laws, women should understand why many men are avoiding marriage now because it doesn't offer a fair deal to them either.

Wait. Did you just compare the right to abortion to men not wanting to get married?????????????????????

Well, there is a parallel, LB.

One side wants unfair divorce laws which overwhelmingly favor women.

The other side wants unfair abortion laws which overwhelimingly favor Rich White Men.

so what exists in the US are 2 polar opposites/extremes.

Extremism has a way of feeding off the other.

One side gets greedy, nasty, power hungry and vindictive, so the other bites back back and similary becomes greedy, nasty, power hungry and vindictive.

You have a very negative view of women. No wonder you're a bachelor, sounds like sour grapes to me to be honest.

 

[Joe]

I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

The truth be known, all the 'Real Men' are disengaging from todays society, droppin' out & doin' our own thing.

Sorry but you Ladies became too demanding & asked too much from us, Lily.

So we figured out if it's the End of Days, may as well enjoy what we can with the time we have left. No time for you Ladies anymore.

We' be retreated into our hobbies & other pursuits instead.

I suppose it's a bit like the monks who retreated into the monestaries during the European Dark Ages, eh? Except now the illumination of manuscripts hath been replaced with the XBox & gaming.

Self indulgent hedonism has replaced family values I guess.

Don't forget nuns running from men and yearly life threatening pregancies.... that is why convents were so full.

From you Ladies...it seems to always be the Man's Fault.

Victim Blaming. You and your sisters are always the victims, always right and the man is always the bad one and always wrong.

Here's one persepctive entirely from a woman's POV in her own words about the current situation:




...just like large number of men sympathize with and understand that many women would want to avoid a state like Texas because it does not offer a fair deal to them with respect to abortion rights/laws, women should understand why many men are avoiding marriage now because it doesn't offer a fair deal to them either.

Wait. Did you just compare the right to abortion to men not wanting to get married?????????????????????

Well, there is a parallel, LB.

One side wants unfair divorce laws which overwhelmingly favor women.

The other side wants unfair abortion laws which overwhelimingly favor Rich White Men.

so what exists in the US are 2 polar opposites/extremes.

Extremism has a way of feeding off the other.

One side gets greedy, nasty, power hungry and vindictive, so the other bites back back and similary becomes greedy, nasty, power hungry and vindictive.

You have a very negative view of women. No wonder you're a bachelor, sounds like sour grapes to me to be honest.

Well, you can call me that if you like.

But if failing to completely endorse an agenda because I don't agree with all of it, then so be it.

Same time, I'm not as Black and White as you think.

Many men such as myself support abortion rights for women.

Sometimes it makes practical economic and political sense to support a socially unpopular position.

Anways, if you a choice between me as a political ally and the trogdalytes in Texas who wanna destroy women's rights and women in general, who would you choose?

 

[Lily]

I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

The truth be known, all the 'Real Men' are disengaging from todays society, droppin' out & doin' our own thing.

Sorry but you Ladies became too demanding & asked too much from us, Lily.

So we figured out if it's the End of Days, may as well enjoy what we can with the time we have left. No time for you Ladies anymore.

We' be retreated into our hobbies & other pursuits instead.

I suppose it's a bit like the monks who retreated into the monestaries during the European Dark Ages, eh? Except now the illumination of manuscripts hath been replaced with the XBox & gaming.

Self indulgent hedonism has replaced family values I guess.

Don't forget nuns running from men and yearly life threatening pregancies.... that is why convents were so full.

From you Ladies...it seems to always be the Man's Fault.

Victim Blaming. You and your sisters are always the victims, always right and the man is always the bad one and always wrong.

Here's one persepctive entirely from a woman's POV in her own words about the current situation:




...just like large number of men sympathize with and understand that many women would want to avoid a state like Texas because it does not offer a fair deal to them with respect to abortion rights/laws, women should understand why many men are avoiding marriage now because it doesn't offer a fair deal to them either.

Wait. Did you just compare the right to abortion to men not wanting to get married?????????????????????

Well, there is a parallel, LB.

One side wants unfair divorce laws which overwhelmingly favor women.

The other side wants unfair abortion laws which overwhelimingly favor Rich White Men.

so what exists in the US are 2 polar opposites/extremes.

Extremism has a way of feeding off the other.

One side gets greedy, nasty, power hungry and vindictive, so the other bites back back and similary becomes greedy, nasty, power hungry and vindictive.

You have a very negative view of women. No wonder you're a bachelor, sounds like sour grapes to me to be honest.

Well, you can call me that if you like.

But if failing to completely endorse an agenda because I don't agree with all of it, then so be it.

Same time, I'm not as Black and White as you think.

Many men such as myself support abortion rights for women.

Sometimes it makes practical economic and political sense to support a socially unpopular position.

Anways, if you a choice between me as a political ally and the trogdalytes in Texas who wanna destroy women's rights and women in general, who would you choose?

Well, if your voice mattered her in the US, of course I'd pick you over the likes of the idiots in Texas. However, since that's an impossibility, I don't need you as an ally.

You have no idea how many women have been screwed by divorce as well. If you look at data related to poverty, it's mostly women and children that live in poverty in the US.

That's no accident.

 

[Joe]

I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

The truth be known, all the 'Real Men' are disengaging from todays society, droppin' out & doin' our own thing.

Sorry but you Ladies became too demanding & asked too much from us, Lily.

So we figured out if it's the End of Days, may as well enjoy what we can with the time we have left. No time for you Ladies anymore.

We' be retreated into our hobbies & other pursuits instead.

I suppose it's a bit like the monks who retreated into the monestaries during the European Dark Ages, eh? Except now the illumination of manuscripts hath been replaced with the XBox & gaming.

Self indulgent hedonism has replaced family values I guess.

Don't forget nuns running from men and yearly life threatening pregancies.... that is why convents were so full.

From you Ladies...it seems to always be the Man's Fault.

Victim Blaming. You and your sisters are always the victims, always right and the man is always the bad one and always wrong.

Here's one persepctive entirely from a woman's POV in her own words about the current situation:




...just like large number of men sympathize with and understand that many women would want to avoid a state like Texas because it does not offer a fair deal to them with respect to abortion rights/laws, women should understand why many men are avoiding marriage now because it doesn't offer a fair deal to them either.

Wait. Did you just compare the right to abortion to men not wanting to get married?????????????????????

Well, there is a parallel, LB.

One side wants unfair divorce laws which overwhelmingly favor women.

The other side wants unfair abortion laws which overwhelimingly favor Rich White Men.

so what exists in the US are 2 polar opposites/extremes.

Extremism has a way of feeding off the other.

One side gets greedy, nasty, power hungry and vindictive, so the other bites back back and similary becomes greedy, nasty, power hungry and vindictive.

You have a very negative view of women. No wonder you're a bachelor, sounds like sour grapes to me to be honest.

Well, you can call me that if you like.

But if failing to completely endorse an agenda because I don't agree with all of it, then so be it.

Same time, I'm not as Black and White as you think.

Many men such as myself support abortion rights for women.

Sometimes it makes practical economic and political sense to support a socially unpopular position.

Anways, if you a choice between me as a political ally and the trogdalytes in Texas who wanna destroy women's rights and women in general, who would you choose?

Well, if your voice mattered her in the US, of course I'd pick you over the likes of the idiots in Texas. However, since that's an impossibility, I don't need you as an ally.

You have no idea how many women have been screwed by divorce as well. If you look at data related to poverty, it's mostly women and children that live in poverty in the US.

That's no accident.

That being said, I think you have unrealistic expectations of men.

Men are expected to uphold the traditional values of society and then are seeing their social status eroded.

You can't expect them to be strong for you if they keep getting knocked down.

Just like anti-aboritionists who have unrealistic expectations of women, a number of feminists (but certainly not all) have unrealistic expectaions of men.

 

[Breakfall]

I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

The truth be known, all the 'Real Men' are disengaging from todays society, droppin' out & doin' our own thing.

Sorry but you Ladies became too demanding & asked too much from us, Lily.

So we figured out if it's the End of Days, may as well enjoy what we can with the time we have left. No time for you Ladies anymore.

We' be retreated into our hobbies & other pursuits instead.

I suppose it's a bit like the monks who retreated into the monestaries during the European Dark Ages, eh? Except now the illumination of manuscripts hath been replaced with the XBox & gaming.

Self indulgent hedonism has replaced family values I guess.

Don't forget nuns running from men and yearly life threatening pregancies.... that is why convents were so full.

From you Ladies...it seems to always be the Man's Fault.

Victim Blaming. You and your sisters are always the victims, always right and the man is always the bad one and always wrong.

Here's one persepctive entirely from a woman's POV in her own words about the current situation:




...just like large number of men sympathize with and understand that many women would want to avoid a state like Texas because it does not offer a fair deal to them with respect to abortion rights/laws, women should understand why many men are avoiding marriage now because it doesn't offer a fair deal to them either.

Wait. Did you just compare the right to abortion to men not wanting to get married?????????????????????

Well, there is a parallel, LB.

One side wants unfair divorce laws which overwhelmingly favor women.

The other side wants unfair abortion laws which overwhelimingly favor Rich White Men.

so what exists in the US are 2 polar opposites/extremes.

Extremism has a way of feeding off the other.

One side gets greedy, nasty, power hungry and vindictive, so the other bites back back and similary becomes greedy, nasty, power hungry and vindictive.

You have a very negative view of women. No wonder you're a bachelor, sounds like sour grapes to me to be honest.

Well, you can call me that if you like.

But if failing to completely endorse an agenda because I don't agree with all of it, then so be it.

Same time, I'm not as Black and White as you think.

Many men such as myself support abortion rights for women.

Sometimes it makes practical economic and political sense to support a socially unpopular position.

Anways, if you a choice between me as a political ally and the trogdalytes in Texas who wanna destroy women's rights and women in general, who would you choose?

Well, if your voice mattered her in the US, of course I'd pick you over the likes of the idiots in Texas. However, since that's an impossibility, I don't need you as an ally.

You have no idea how many women have been screwed by divorce as well. If you look at data related to poverty, it's mostly women and children that live in poverty in the US.

That's no accident.

Are you fucking serous?

 

[Lily]

I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

The truth be known, all the 'Real Men' are disengaging from todays society, droppin' out & doin' our own thing.

Sorry but you Ladies became too demanding & asked too much from us, Lily.

So we figured out if it's the End of Days, may as well enjoy what we can with the time we have left. No time for you Ladies anymore.

We' be retreated into our hobbies & other pursuits instead.

I suppose it's a bit like the monks who retreated into the monestaries during the European Dark Ages, eh? Except now the illumination of manuscripts hath been replaced with the XBox & gaming.

Self indulgent hedonism has replaced family values I guess.

Don't forget nuns running from men and yearly life threatening pregancies.... that is why convents were so full.

From you Ladies...it seems to always be the Man's Fault.

Victim Blaming. You and your sisters are always the victims, always right and the man is always the bad one and always wrong.

Here's one persepctive entirely from a woman's POV in her own words about the current situation:




...just like large number of men sympathize with and understand that many women would want to avoid a state like Texas because it does not offer a fair deal to them with respect to abortion rights/laws, women should understand why many men are avoiding marriage now because it doesn't offer a fair deal to them either.

Wait. Did you just compare the right to abortion to men not wanting to get married?????????????????????

Well, there is a parallel, LB.

One side wants unfair divorce laws which overwhelmingly favor women.

The other side wants unfair abortion laws which overwhelimingly favor Rich White Men.

so what exists in the US are 2 polar opposites/extremes.

Extremism has a way of feeding off the other.

One side gets greedy, nasty, power hungry and vindictive, so the other bites back back and similary becomes greedy, nasty, power hungry and vindictive.

You have a very negative view of women. No wonder you're a bachelor, sounds like sour grapes to me to be honest.

Well, you can call me that if you like.

But if failing to completely endorse an agenda because I don't agree with all of it, then so be it.

Same time, I'm not as Black and White as you think.

Many men such as myself support abortion rights for women.

Sometimes it makes practical economic and political sense to support a socially unpopular position.

Anways, if you a choice between me as a political ally and the trogdalytes in Texas who wanna destroy women's rights and women in general, who would you choose?

Well, if your voice mattered her in the US, of course I'd pick you over the likes of the idiots in Texas. However, since that's an impossibility, I don't need you as an ally.

You have no idea how many women have been screwed by divorce as well. If you look at data related to poverty, it's mostly women and children that live in poverty in the US.

That's no accident.

That being said, I think you have unrealistic expectations of men.

Men are expected to uphold the traditional values of society and then are seeing their social status eroded.

You can't expect them to be strong for you if they keep getting knocked down.

Just like anti-aboritionists who have unrealistic expectations of women, a number of feminists (but certainly not all) have unrealistic expectaions of men.

Wait so having a job, contributing to their family financially and not being a dick is asking too much?

 

[Breakfall]

I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

The truth be known, all the 'Real Men' are disengaging from todays society, droppin' out & doin' our own thing.

Sorry but you Ladies became too demanding & asked too much from us, Lily.

So we figured out if it's the End of Days, may as well enjoy what we can with the time we have left. No time for you Ladies anymore.

We' be retreated into our hobbies & other pursuits instead.

I suppose it's a bit like the monks who retreated into the monestaries during the European Dark Ages, eh? Except now the illumination of manuscripts hath been replaced with the XBox & gaming.

Self indulgent hedonism has replaced family values I guess.

Don't forget nuns running from men and yearly life threatening pregancies.... that is why convents were so full.

From you Ladies...it seems to always be the Man's Fault.

Victim Blaming. You and your sisters are always the victims, always right and the man is always the bad one and always wrong.

Here's one persepctive entirely from a woman's POV in her own words about the current situation:




...just like large number of men sympathize with and understand that many women would want to avoid a state like Texas because it does not offer a fair deal to them with respect to abortion rights/laws, women should understand why many men are avoiding marriage now because it doesn't offer a fair deal to them either.

Wait. Did you just compare the right to abortion to men not wanting to get married?????????????????????

Well, there is a parallel, LB.

One side wants unfair divorce laws which overwhelmingly favor women.

The other side wants unfair abortion laws which overwhelimingly favor Rich White Men.

so what exists in the US are 2 polar opposites/extremes.

Extremism has a way of feeding off the other.

One side gets greedy, nasty, power hungry and vindictive, so the other bites back back and similary becomes greedy, nasty, power hungry and vindictive.

You have a very negative view of women. No wonder you're a bachelor, sounds like sour grapes to me to be honest.

Well, you can call me that if you like.

But if failing to completely endorse an agenda because I don't agree with all of it, then so be it.

Same time, I'm not as Black and White as you think.

Many men such as myself support abortion rights for women.

Sometimes it makes practical economic and political sense to support a socially unpopular position.

Anways, if you a choice between me as a political ally and the trogdalytes in Texas who wanna destroy women's rights and women in general, who would you choose?

Well, if your voice mattered her in the US, of course I'd pick you over the likes of the idiots in Texas. However, since that's an impossibility, I don't need you as an ally.

You have no idea how many women have been screwed by divorce as well. If you look at data related to poverty, it's mostly women and children that live in poverty in the US.

That's no accident.

That being said, I think you have unrealistic expectations of men.

Men are expected to uphold the traditional values of society and then are seeing their social status eroded.

You can't expect them to be strong for you if they keep getting knocked down.

Just like anti-aboritionists who have unrealistic expectations of women, a number of feminists (but certainly not all) have unrealistic expectaions of men.

Wait so having a job, contributing to their family financially and not being a dick is asking too much?

Is that what you’re asking or telling?

 

[Lily]

I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

The truth be known, all the 'Real Men' are disengaging from todays society, droppin' out & doin' our own thing.

Sorry but you Ladies became too demanding & asked too much from us, Lily.

So we figured out if it's the End of Days, may as well enjoy what we can with the time we have left. No time for you Ladies anymore.

We' be retreated into our hobbies & other pursuits instead.

I suppose it's a bit like the monks who retreated into the monestaries during the European Dark Ages, eh? Except now the illumination of manuscripts hath been replaced with the XBox & gaming.

Self indulgent hedonism has replaced family values I guess.

Don't forget nuns running from men and yearly life threatening pregancies.... that is why convents were so full.

From you Ladies...it seems to always be the Man's Fault.

Victim Blaming. You and your sisters are always the victims, always right and the man is always the bad one and always wrong.

Here's one persepctive entirely from a woman's POV in her own words about the current situation:




...just like large number of men sympathize with and understand that many women would want to avoid a state like Texas because it does not offer a fair deal to them with respect to abortion rights/laws, women should understand why many men are avoiding marriage now because it doesn't offer a fair deal to them either.

Wait. Did you just compare the right to abortion to men not wanting to get married?????????????????????

Well, there is a parallel, LB.

One side wants unfair divorce laws which overwhelmingly favor women.

The other side wants unfair abortion laws which overwhelimingly favor Rich White Men.

so what exists in the US are 2 polar opposites/extremes.

Extremism has a way of feeding off the other.

One side gets greedy, nasty, power hungry and vindictive, so the other bites back back and similary becomes greedy, nasty, power hungry and vindictive.

You have a very negative view of women. No wonder you're a bachelor, sounds like sour grapes to me to be honest.

Well, you can call me that if you like.

But if failing to completely endorse an agenda because I don't agree with all of it, then so be it.

Same time, I'm not as Black and White as you think.

Many men such as myself support abortion rights for women.

Sometimes it makes practical economic and political sense to support a socially unpopular position.

Anways, if you a choice between me as a political ally and the trogdalytes in Texas who wanna destroy women's rights and women in general, who would you choose?

Well, if your voice mattered her in the US, of course I'd pick you over the likes of the idiots in Texas. However, since that's an impossibility, I don't need you as an ally.

You have no idea how many women have been screwed by divorce as well. If you look at data related to poverty, it's mostly women and children that live in poverty in the US.

That's no accident.

That being said, I think you have unrealistic expectations of men.

Men are expected to uphold the traditional values of society and then are seeing their social status eroded.

You can't expect them to be strong for you if they keep getting knocked down.

Just like anti-aboritionists who have unrealistic expectations of women, a number of feminists (but certainly not all) have unrealistic expectaions of men.

Wait so having a job, contributing to their family financially and not being a dick is asking too much?

Is that what you’re asking or telling?

Asking.

I want to know what is "too much".

 

[Breakfall]

I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

The truth be known, all the 'Real Men' are disengaging from todays society, droppin' out & doin' our own thing.

Sorry but you Ladies became too demanding & asked too much from us, Lily.

So we figured out if it's the End of Days, may as well enjoy what we can with the time we have left. No time for you Ladies anymore.

We' be retreated into our hobbies & other pursuits instead.

I suppose it's a bit like the monks who retreated into the monestaries during the European Dark Ages, eh? Except now the illumination of manuscripts hath been replaced with the XBox & gaming.

Self indulgent hedonism has replaced family values I guess.

Don't forget nuns running from men and yearly life threatening pregancies.... that is why convents were so full.

From you Ladies...it seems to always be the Man's Fault.

Victim Blaming. You and your sisters are always the victims, always right and the man is always the bad one and always wrong.

Here's one persepctive entirely from a woman's POV in her own words about the current situation:




...just like large number of men sympathize with and understand that many women would want to avoid a state like Texas because it does not offer a fair deal to them with respect to abortion rights/laws, women should understand why many men are avoiding marriage now because it doesn't offer a fair deal to them either.

Wait. Did you just compare the right to abortion to men not wanting to get married?????????????????????

Well, there is a parallel, LB.

One side wants unfair divorce laws which overwhelmingly favor women.

The other side wants unfair abortion laws which overwhelimingly favor Rich White Men.

so what exists in the US are 2 polar opposites/extremes.

Extremism has a way of feeding off the other.

One side gets greedy, nasty, power hungry and vindictive, so the other bites back back and similary becomes greedy, nasty, power hungry and vindictive.

You have a very negative view of women. No wonder you're a bachelor, sounds like sour grapes to me to be honest.

Well, you can call me that if you like.

But if failing to completely endorse an agenda because I don't agree with all of it, then so be it.

Same time, I'm not as Black and White as you think.

Many men such as myself support abortion rights for women.

Sometimes it makes practical economic and political sense to support a socially unpopular position.

Anways, if you a choice between me as a political ally and the trogdalytes in Texas who wanna destroy women's rights and women in general, who would you choose?

Well, if your voice mattered her in the US, of course I'd pick you over the likes of the idiots in Texas. However, since that's an impossibility, I don't need you as an ally.

You have no idea how many women have been screwed by divorce as well. If you look at data related to poverty, it's mostly women and children that live in poverty in the US.

That's no accident.

That being said, I think you have unrealistic expectations of men.

Men are expected to uphold the traditional values of society and then are seeing their social status eroded.

You can't expect them to be strong for you if they keep getting knocked down.

Just like anti-aboritionists who have unrealistic expectations of women, a number of feminists (but certainly not all) have unrealistic expectaions of men.

Wait so having a job, contributing to their family financially and not being a dick is asking too much?

Is that what you’re asking or telling?

Asking.

I want to know what is "too much".

You’re stereotyping the male species. Housewife’s flaw!

 

[Seamajor]

I don’t know how or where being a REAL man who raises his children both financially and morally has turned into left v right.

I know of at least 4 men who I grew up with who were trapped by women into marriage. Yes, I said TRAPPED. They have all referred to it as some sort of miscommunication and I’m not sure how that happens. Women are either on birth control or they aren’t.

These men are all dedicated fathers. They married these women as soon as they found out they were pregnant and are now ALL divorced.

I don’t think unplanned pregnancies are easy for men or women and clearly a child conceived out of wedlock is going to present numerous issues for both parents, whether they choose to face their issues head on or run like cowards. These men I have referred to were all raised Catholic and have more morals than most when it comes to traditional family values.

Some people are selfish and only think of themselves and how a baby will negatively impact their lives. This is why I’m pro-life. I believe every child should benefit from a 2 parent LOVING home.

I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves. Those that couldn't meet those expectations often disappeared from their families, just walked away. Maybe it wasn't a good thing, but they didn't hang about whining, sniveling and feeling sorry for themselves if they had to provide support for their families.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

Mostly woke-ism. Also you're a moron if you think anyone here has whined about supporting their families. I have seen you do this multiple times already where you ignore what people actually said and instead build up a fantasy of what you wish they said or wrongly imagine they might have said.

That is not a good trait.

You complain about men having to spend up to 2/3rds, uncited of course, of their income on their children. That is in the other thread about the man paying support with pennies.

I mentioned that I personally know one man who does pay 2/3rds (between child support and spousal support) forcing him into poverty and homelessness even though it was his former wife who cheated on him while he was deployed. I also pointed out that his ex didn't spend the money on his kids and instead helped her boyfriend and their two kids with it. Oh, and I pointed out that she didn't marry her current boyfriend despite them having two children together. Yes, I do believe allowing the guy to mai tain basic shelter would be a better policy as it would improve his ability to provide for his family, but, you were clearly to stupid to understand even something as basic as that.

You have very poor reading comprehension then lie and pretend people said something they never did. Lying about other people's positions is a sign of low character and low intelligence.

Then this man should go and get his children and raise them. Isn't there shared custody where he lives?

I’m going to chime in here… any father who wants visitation can file an OSC with the court to obtain that. You don’t pay child support to rent your child. Also, you cannot withhold visitation due to unpaid support.

Too many men think that once they get divorced that child support is unfair. WTF?!

think about all these single parent children and their twisted ideologies about “family” and what men stand for (a paycheck) being unleashed into society.

these so-called do goodies make me physically ill

The men I've known in my life that are single dads have paid their support for their children and then some. They also spent time with them. Always without bitching, happy to see their children. The bitch of it was that the ex wife was often a cunt, not appreciating how good they had it.

My beast won’t even talk on the phone when he has his kids… he and his ex have a 50/50 shared custody split. I’m impressed with both of them as a parental unit tbh. I’m becoming friends with her.

We also pray before meals and no cell phones at the table, which only his oldest has one and she is in an all girl Catholic HS and needs it since both parents work out of the area.

Sounds a lot like a conservative household to me

Genuine question here: who do you pray to?

That’s easy. The Wave Gods

 

[Breakfall]

I don’t know how or where being a REAL man who raises his children both financially and morally has turned into left v right.

I know of at least 4 men who I grew up with who were trapped by women into marriage. Yes, I said TRAPPED. They have all referred to it as some sort of miscommunication and I’m not sure how that happens. Women are either on birth control or they aren’t.

These men are all dedicated fathers. They married these women as soon as they found out they were pregnant and are now ALL divorced.

I don’t think unplanned pregnancies are easy for men or women and clearly a child conceived out of wedlock is going to present numerous issues for both parents, whether they choose to face their issues head on or run like cowards. These men I have referred to were all raised Catholic and have more morals than most when it comes to traditional family values.

Some people are selfish and only think of themselves and how a baby will negatively impact their lives. This is why I’m pro-life. I believe every child should benefit from a 2 parent LOVING home.

I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves. Those that couldn't meet those expectations often disappeared from their families, just walked away. Maybe it wasn't a good thing, but they didn't hang about whining, sniveling and feeling sorry for themselves if they had to provide support for their families.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

Mostly woke-ism. Also you're a moron if you think anyone here has whined about supporting their families. I have seen you do this multiple times already where you ignore what people actually said and instead build up a fantasy of what you wish they said or wrongly imagine they might have said.

That is not a good trait.

You complain about men having to spend up to 2/3rds, uncited of course, of their income on their children. That is in the other thread about the man paying support with pennies.

I mentioned that I personally know one man who does pay 2/3rds (between child support and spousal support) forcing him into poverty and homelessness even though it was his former wife who cheated on him while he was deployed. I also pointed out that his ex didn't spend the money on his kids and instead helped her boyfriend and their two kids with it. Oh, and I pointed out that she didn't marry her current boyfriend despite them having two children together. Yes, I do believe allowing the guy to mai tain basic shelter would be a better policy as it would improve his ability to provide for his family, but, you were clearly to stupid to understand even something as basic as that.

You have very poor reading comprehension then lie and pretend people said something they never did. Lying about other people's positions is a sign of low character and low intelligence.

Then this man should go and get his children and raise them. Isn't there shared custody where he lives?

I’m going to chime in here… any father who wants visitation can file an OSC with the court to obtain that. You don’t pay child support to rent your child. Also, you cannot withhold visitation due to unpaid support.

Too many men think that once they get divorced that child support is unfair. WTF?!

think about all these single parent children and their twisted ideologies about “family” and what men stand for (a paycheck) being unleashed into society.

these so-called do goodies make me physically ill

The men I've known in my life that are single dads have paid their support for their children and then some. They also spent time with them. Always without bitching, happy to see their children. The bitch of it was that the ex wife was often a cunt, not appreciating how good they had it.

My beast won’t even talk on the phone when he has his kids… he and his ex have a 50/50 shared custody split. I’m impressed with both of them as a parental unit tbh. I’m becoming friends with her.

We also pray before meals and no cell phones at the table, which only his oldest has one and she is in an all girl Catholic HS and needs it since both parents work out of the area.

Sounds a lot like a conservative household to me

Genuine question here: who do you pray to?

That’s easy. The Wave Gods

Surfs up?

 

[Seamajor]

It’s breaking… The thunder and lightning is a tad intimidating. We’re gonna give it a few minutes.

 

[Lily]

I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

The truth be known, all the 'Real Men' are disengaging from todays society, droppin' out & doin' our own thing.

Sorry but you Ladies became too demanding & asked too much from us, Lily.

So we figured out if it's the End of Days, may as well enjoy what we can with the time we have left. No time for you Ladies anymore.

We' be retreated into our hobbies & other pursuits instead.

I suppose it's a bit like the monks who retreated into the monestaries during the European Dark Ages, eh? Except now the illumination of manuscripts hath been replaced with the XBox & gaming.

Self indulgent hedonism has replaced family values I guess.

Don't forget nuns running from men and yearly life threatening pregancies.... that is why convents were so full.

From you Ladies...it seems to always be the Man's Fault.

Victim Blaming. You and your sisters are always the victims, always right and the man is always the bad one and always wrong.

Here's one persepctive entirely from a woman's POV in her own words about the current situation:




...just like large number of men sympathize with and understand that many women would want to avoid a state like Texas because it does not offer a fair deal to them with respect to abortion rights/laws, women should understand why many men are avoiding marriage now because it doesn't offer a fair deal to them either.

Wait. Did you just compare the right to abortion to men not wanting to get married?????????????????????

Well, there is a parallel, LB.

One side wants unfair divorce laws which overwhelmingly favor women.

The other side wants unfair abortion laws which overwhelimingly favor Rich White Men.

so what exists in the US are 2 polar opposites/extremes.

Extremism has a way of feeding off the other.

One side gets greedy, nasty, power hungry and vindictive, so the other bites back back and similary becomes greedy, nasty, power hungry and vindictive.

You have a very negative view of women. No wonder you're a bachelor, sounds like sour grapes to me to be honest.

Well, you can call me that if you like.

But if failing to completely endorse an agenda because I don't agree with all of it, then so be it.

Same time, I'm not as Black and White as you think.

Many men such as myself support abortion rights for women.

Sometimes it makes practical economic and political sense to support a socially unpopular position.

Anways, if you a choice between me as a political ally and the trogdalytes in Texas who wanna destroy women's rights and women in general, who would you choose?

Well, if your voice mattered her in the US, of course I'd pick you over the likes of the idiots in Texas. However, since that's an impossibility, I don't need you as an ally.

You have no idea how many women have been screwed by divorce as well. If you look at data related to poverty, it's mostly women and children that live in poverty in the US.

That's no accident.

That being said, I think you have unrealistic expectations of men.

Men are expected to uphold the traditional values of society and then are seeing their social status eroded.

You can't expect them to be strong for you if they keep getting knocked down.

Just like anti-aboritionists who have unrealistic expectations of women, a number of feminists (but certainly not all) have unrealistic expectaions of men.

Wait so having a job, contributing to their family financially and not being a dick is asking too much?

Is that what you’re asking or telling?

Asking.

I want to know what is "too much".

You’re stereotyping the male species. Housewife’s flaw!

It is in the context of marriage that I am "stereotyping". In a marriage, both partners should contribute to the family.

 

[Breakfall]

I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

The truth be known, all the 'Real Men' are disengaging from todays society, droppin' out & doin' our own thing.

Sorry but you Ladies became too demanding & asked too much from us, Lily.

So we figured out if it's the End of Days, may as well enjoy what we can with the time we have left. No time for you Ladies anymore.

We' be retreated into our hobbies & other pursuits instead.

I suppose it's a bit like the monks who retreated into the monestaries during the European Dark Ages, eh? Except now the illumination of manuscripts hath been replaced with the XBox & gaming.

Self indulgent hedonism has replaced family values I guess.

Don't forget nuns running from men and yearly life threatening pregancies.... that is why convents were so full.

From you Ladies...it seems to always be the Man's Fault.

Victim Blaming. You and your sisters are always the victims, always right and the man is always the bad one and always wrong.

Here's one persepctive entirely from a woman's POV in her own words about the current situation:




...just like large number of men sympathize with and understand that many women would want to avoid a state like Texas because it does not offer a fair deal to them with respect to abortion rights/laws, women should understand why many men are avoiding marriage now because it doesn't offer a fair deal to them either.

Wait. Did you just compare the right to abortion to men not wanting to get married?????????????????????

Well, there is a parallel, LB.

One side wants unfair divorce laws which overwhelmingly favor women.

The other side wants unfair abortion laws which overwhelimingly favor Rich White Men.

so what exists in the US are 2 polar opposites/extremes.

Extremism has a way of feeding off the other.

One side gets greedy, nasty, power hungry and vindictive, so the other bites back back and similary becomes greedy, nasty, power hungry and vindictive.

You have a very negative view of women. No wonder you're a bachelor, sounds like sour grapes to me to be honest.

Well, you can call me that if you like.

But if failing to completely endorse an agenda because I don't agree with all of it, then so be it.

Same time, I'm not as Black and White as you think.

Many men such as myself support abortion rights for women.

Sometimes it makes practical economic and political sense to support a socially unpopular position.

Anways, if you a choice between me as a political ally and the trogdalytes in Texas who wanna destroy women's rights and women in general, who would you choose?

Well, if your voice mattered her in the US, of course I'd pick you over the likes of the idiots in Texas. However, since that's an impossibility, I don't need you as an ally.

You have no idea how many women have been screwed by divorce as well. If you look at data related to poverty, it's mostly women and children that live in poverty in the US.

That's no accident.

That being said, I think you have unrealistic expectations of men.

Men are expected to uphold the traditional values of society and then are seeing their social status eroded.

You can't expect them to be strong for you if they keep getting knocked down.

Just like anti-aboritionists who have unrealistic expectations of women, a number of feminists (but certainly not all) have unrealistic expectaions of men.

Wait so having a job, contributing to their family financially and not being a dick is asking too much?

Is that what you’re asking or telling?

Asking.

I want to know what is "too much".

You’re stereotyping the male species. Housewife’s flaw!

It is in the context of marriage that I am "stereotyping". In a marriage, both partners should contribute to the family.

Depends on the sanity of either partner.
And I’ve noticed that you’ve resorted to hiding your online presence. Rookie error!

 

[Lily]

I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

The truth be known, all the 'Real Men' are disengaging from todays society, droppin' out & doin' our own thing.

Sorry but you Ladies became too demanding & asked too much from us, Lily.

So we figured out if it's the End of Days, may as well enjoy what we can with the time we have left. No time for you Ladies anymore.

We' be retreated into our hobbies & other pursuits instead.

I suppose it's a bit like the monks who retreated into the monestaries during the European Dark Ages, eh? Except now the illumination of manuscripts hath been replaced with the XBox & gaming.

Self indulgent hedonism has replaced family values I guess.

Don't forget nuns running from men and yearly life threatening pregancies.... that is why convents were so full.

From you Ladies...it seems to always be the Man's Fault.

Victim Blaming. You and your sisters are always the victims, always right and the man is always the bad one and always wrong.

Here's one persepctive entirely from a woman's POV in her own words about the current situation:




...just like large number of men sympathize with and understand that many women would want to avoid a state like Texas because it does not offer a fair deal to them with respect to abortion rights/laws, women should understand why many men are avoiding marriage now because it doesn't offer a fair deal to them either.

Wait. Did you just compare the right to abortion to men not wanting to get married?????????????????????

Well, there is a parallel, LB.

One side wants unfair divorce laws which overwhelmingly favor women.

The other side wants unfair abortion laws which overwhelimingly favor Rich White Men.

so what exists in the US are 2 polar opposites/extremes.

Extremism has a way of feeding off the other.

One side gets greedy, nasty, power hungry and vindictive, so the other bites back back and similary becomes greedy, nasty, power hungry and vindictive.

You have a very negative view of women. No wonder you're a bachelor, sounds like sour grapes to me to be honest.

Well, you can call me that if you like.

But if failing to completely endorse an agenda because I don't agree with all of it, then so be it.

Same time, I'm not as Black and White as you think.

Many men such as myself support abortion rights for women.

Sometimes it makes practical economic and political sense to support a socially unpopular position.

Anways, if you a choice between me as a political ally and the trogdalytes in Texas who wanna destroy women's rights and women in general, who would you choose?

Well, if your voice mattered her in the US, of course I'd pick you over the likes of the idiots in Texas. However, since that's an impossibility, I don't need you as an ally.

You have no idea how many women have been screwed by divorce as well. If you look at data related to poverty, it's mostly women and children that live in poverty in the US.

That's no accident.

That being said, I think you have unrealistic expectations of men.

Men are expected to uphold the traditional values of society and then are seeing their social status eroded.

You can't expect them to be strong for you if they keep getting knocked down.

Just like anti-aboritionists who have unrealistic expectations of women, a number of feminists (but certainly not all) have unrealistic expectaions of men.

Wait so having a job, contributing to their family financially and not being a dick is asking too much?

Is that what you’re asking or telling?

Asking.

I want to know what is "too much".

You’re stereotyping the male species. Housewife’s flaw!

It is in the context of marriage that I am "stereotyping". In a marriage, both partners should contribute to the family.

Depends on the sanity of either partner.
And I’ve noticed that you’ve resorted to hiding your online presence. Rookie error!

How am I hiding my online presence?