What is happening to men in the Western world?

[Joe]

I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

The truth be known, all the 'Real Men' are disengaging from todays society, droppin' out & doin' our own thing.

Sorry but you Ladies became too demanding & asked too much from us, Lily.

So we figured out if it's the End of Days, may as well enjoy what we can with the time we have left. No time for you Ladies anymore.

We' be retreated into our hobbies & other pursuits instead.

I suppose it's a bit like the monks who retreated into the monestaries during the European Dark Ages, eh? Except now the illumination of manuscripts hath been replaced with the XBox & gaming.

Self indulgent hedonism has replaced family values I guess.

 

[Oerdin]

I am willing to bet GOOD money that the dizzy pro-lifer doesn’t pay child support for the kid she lost. Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Lost? As in removed or adopted out?

taken… well shipped off by El Capitan Save a Hoe and then refused visitation when she was shooting up

Got it. Well, in all fairness, how is a junkie going to provide for a child? They can't even provide for themselves, all their money, from my understanding of the matter, goes to their drug habit.

… but… but… but… she was saved by a black pastor who took her and her fatherless child in and now is ANTI BLM

she could have eventually gotten visitation by proving herself to be stable… but online was more important post fucking Martini and violating HIPAA when she sent that poop pic. Instead, she jeopardized her only career path besides working at Taco Bell.

To be fair there is no excuse for any intelligent person to support a vile and evil self serving organization like BLM.

 

[Lily]

I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

The truth be known, all the 'Real Men' are disengaging from todays society, droppin' out & doin' our own thing.

Sorry but you Ladies became too demanding & asked too much from us, Lily.

So we figured out if it's the End of Days, may as well enjoy what we can with the time we have left. No time for you Ladies anymore.

We' be retreated into our hobbies & other pursuits instead.

I suppose it's a bit like the monks who retreated into the monestaries during the European Dark Ages, eh? Except now the illumination of manuscripts hath been replaced with the XBox & gaming.

Self indulgent hedonism has replaced family values I guess.

What is being asked that's too much?

 

[Lokmar]

I don’t know how or where being a REAL man who raises his children both financially and morally has turned into left v right.

I know of at least 4 men who I grew up with who were trapped by women into marriage. Yes, I said TRAPPED. They have all referred to it as some sort of miscommunication and I’m not sure how that happens. Women are either on birth control or they aren’t.

These men are all dedicated fathers. They married these women as soon as they found out they were pregnant and are now ALL divorced.

I don’t think unplanned pregnancies are easy for men or women and clearly a child conceived out of wedlock is going to present numerous issues for both parents, whether they choose to face their issues head on or run like cowards. These men I have referred to were all raised Catholic and have more morals than most when it comes to traditional family values.

Some people are selfish and only think of themselves and how a baby will negatively impact their lives. This is why I’m pro-life. I believe every child should benefit from a 2 parent LOVING home.

I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves. Those that couldn't meet those expectations often disappeared from their families, just walked away. Maybe it wasn't a good thing, but they didn't hang about whining, sniveling and feeling sorry for themselves if they had to provide support for their families.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

Mostly woke-ism. Also you're a moron if you think anyone here has whined about supporting their families. I have seen you do this multiple times already where you ignore what people actually said and instead build up a fantasy of what you wish they said or wrongly imagine they might have said.

That is not a good trait.

You complain about men having to spend up to 2/3rds, uncited of course, of their income on their children. That is in the other thread about the man paying support with pennies.

I mentioned that I personally know one man who does pay 2/3rds (between child support and spousal support) forcing him into poverty and homelessness even though it was his former wife who cheated on him while he was deployed. I also pointed out that his ex didn't spend the money on his kids and instead helped her boyfriend and their two kids with it. Oh, and I pointed out that she didn't marry her current boyfriend despite them having two children together. Yes, I do believe allowing the guy to mai tain basic shelter would be a better policy as it would improve his ability to provide for his family, but, you were clearly to stupid to understand even something as basic as that.

You have very poor reading comprehension then lie and pretend people said something they never did. Lying about other people's positions is a sign of low character and low intelligence.

Then this man should go and get his children and raise them. Isn't there shared custody where he lives?

I’m going to chime in here… any father who wants visitation can file an OSC with the court to obtain that. You don’t pay child support to rent your child. Also, you cannot withhold visitation due to unpaid support.

Too many men think that once they get divorced that child support is unfair. WTF?!

Bitch please! I got custody and my ex wife made 1 fucking $400 payment in the next 11 months it took us to divorce. Spare me. We finally wound up with no support and me having the kids 3/4 of the time. My current wife carried all the health insurance on them too and my ex never paid for health care bills....she only complained when we asked her and threattened to put em on her insurance. I told the stupid bitch she needed to put em on her health care once we paid for them for several years. Bitch had the nerve to say her work wouldnt allow her!!!! I told her, "ITS THE FUCKING LAW THAT THEY HAVE TOO< YOU LYING ASSED BITCH!!!" Make no mistake, you cunts are every bit the deadbeats men are when given the opportunity and even when you arent! Sometimes you just let your kids starve to death!

If it doesn't pertain to you, don't get a pulse in your sphincter. I said too many men, not all men, dumbfuq.

Nice try bitch but the point is, women are just as bad and in some cases WORSE!

Just look at how many of "mom's boyfriends" beat the shit out of or even rape the kids. And the moms just go along with it most of the time .

Yep. I had a step dad that beat the shit outta me. I still hold a grudge against my mom. My idiot liberal faggit loving dad couldnt be a good husband or father tho. They were both or all 3 fucked up.

 

[Lokmar]

I don’t know how or where being a REAL man who raises his children both financially and morally has turned into left v right.

I know of at least 4 men who I grew up with who were trapped by women into marriage. Yes, I said TRAPPED. They have all referred to it as some sort of miscommunication and I’m not sure how that happens. Women are either on birth control or they aren’t.

These men are all dedicated fathers. They married these women as soon as they found out they were pregnant and are now ALL divorced.

I don’t think unplanned pregnancies are easy for men or women and clearly a child conceived out of wedlock is going to present numerous issues for both parents, whether they choose to face their issues head on or run like cowards. These men I have referred to were all raised Catholic and have more morals than most when it comes to traditional family values.

Some people are selfish and only think of themselves and how a baby will negatively impact their lives. This is why I’m pro-life. I believe every child should benefit from a 2 parent LOVING home.

I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves. Those that couldn't meet those expectations often disappeared from their families, just walked away. Maybe it wasn't a good thing, but they didn't hang about whining, sniveling and feeling sorry for themselves if they had to provide support for their families.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

Mostly woke-ism. Also you're a moron if you think anyone here has whined about supporting their families. I have seen you do this multiple times already where you ignore what people actually said and instead build up a fantasy of what you wish they said or wrongly imagine they might have said.

That is not a good trait.

You complain about men having to spend up to 2/3rds, uncited of course, of their income on their children. That is in the other thread about the man paying support with pennies.

I mentioned that I personally know one man who does pay 2/3rds (between child support and spousal support) forcing him into poverty and homelessness even though it was his former wife who cheated on him while he was deployed. I also pointed out that his ex didn't spend the money on his kids and instead helped her boyfriend and their two kids with it. Oh, and I pointed out that she didn't marry her current boyfriend despite them having two children together. Yes, I do believe allowing the guy to mai tain basic shelter would be a better policy as it would improve his ability to provide for his family, but, you were clearly to stupid to understand even something as basic as that.

You have very poor reading comprehension then lie and pretend people said something they never did. Lying about other people's positions is a sign of low character and low intelligence.

Then this man should go and get his children and raise them. Isn't there shared custody where he lives?

I’m going to chime in here… any father who wants visitation can file an OSC with the court to obtain that. You don’t pay child support to rent your child. Also, you cannot withhold visitation due to unpaid support.

Too many men think that once they get divorced that child support is unfair. WTF?!

Bitch please! I got custody and my ex wife made 1 fucking $400 payment in the next 11 months it took us to divorce. Spare me. We finally wound up with no support and me having the kids 3/4 of the time. My current wife carried all the health insurance on them too and my ex never paid for health care bills....she only complained when we asked her and threattened to put em on her insurance. I told the stupid bitch she needed to put em on her health care once we paid for them for several years. Bitch had the nerve to say her work wouldnt allow her!!!! I told her, "ITS THE FUCKING LAW THAT THEY HAVE TOO< YOU LYING ASSED BITCH!!!" Make no mistake, you cunts are every bit the deadbeats men are when given the opportunity and even when you arent! Sometimes you just let your kids starve to death!

If it doesn't pertain to you, don't get a pulse in your sphincter. I said too many men, not all men, dumbfuq.

Nice try bitch but the point is, women are just as bad and in some cases WORSE!

Nice try is the truth. If the description doesn't fit you, why go on a rant for a paragraph? And yes, there are terrible mothers that don't pay child support they owe.

So, stfu up asshole, no one was dragging you personally.

Your lopsided generalization is pure shit and in fact applies just as much to women as men. Too bad!

 

[Lokmar]

The ONLY thing thats missing from society and whats causing ALL the problems is lack of Christian morality. Its pretty simple, really.

 

[Lily]

I don’t know how or where being a REAL man who raises his children both financially and morally has turned into left v right.

I know of at least 4 men who I grew up with who were trapped by women into marriage. Yes, I said TRAPPED. They have all referred to it as some sort of miscommunication and I’m not sure how that happens. Women are either on birth control or they aren’t.

These men are all dedicated fathers. They married these women as soon as they found out they were pregnant and are now ALL divorced.

I don’t think unplanned pregnancies are easy for men or women and clearly a child conceived out of wedlock is going to present numerous issues for both parents, whether they choose to face their issues head on or run like cowards. These men I have referred to were all raised Catholic and have more morals than most when it comes to traditional family values.

Some people are selfish and only think of themselves and how a baby will negatively impact their lives. This is why I’m pro-life. I believe every child should benefit from a 2 parent LOVING home.

I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves. Those that couldn't meet those expectations often disappeared from their families, just walked away. Maybe it wasn't a good thing, but they didn't hang about whining, sniveling and feeling sorry for themselves if they had to provide support for their families.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

Mostly woke-ism. Also you're a moron if you think anyone here has whined about supporting their families. I have seen you do this multiple times already where you ignore what people actually said and instead build up a fantasy of what you wish they said or wrongly imagine they might have said.

That is not a good trait.

You complain about men having to spend up to 2/3rds, uncited of course, of their income on their children. That is in the other thread about the man paying support with pennies.

I mentioned that I personally know one man who does pay 2/3rds (between child support and spousal support) forcing him into poverty and homelessness even though it was his former wife who cheated on him while he was deployed. I also pointed out that his ex didn't spend the money on his kids and instead helped her boyfriend and their two kids with it. Oh, and I pointed out that she didn't marry her current boyfriend despite them having two children together. Yes, I do believe allowing the guy to mai tain basic shelter would be a better policy as it would improve his ability to provide for his family, but, you were clearly to stupid to understand even something as basic as that.

You have very poor reading comprehension then lie and pretend people said something they never did. Lying about other people's positions is a sign of low character and low intelligence.

Then this man should go and get his children and raise them. Isn't there shared custody where he lives?

I’m going to chime in here… any father who wants visitation can file an OSC with the court to obtain that. You don’t pay child support to rent your child. Also, you cannot withhold visitation due to unpaid support.

Too many men think that once they get divorced that child support is unfair. WTF?!

Bitch please! I got custody and my ex wife made 1 fucking $400 payment in the next 11 months it took us to divorce. Spare me. We finally wound up with no support and me having the kids 3/4 of the time. My current wife carried all the health insurance on them too and my ex never paid for health care bills....she only complained when we asked her and threattened to put em on her insurance. I told the stupid bitch she needed to put em on her health care once we paid for them for several years. Bitch had the nerve to say her work wouldnt allow her!!!! I told her, "ITS THE FUCKING LAW THAT THEY HAVE TOO< YOU LYING ASSED BITCH!!!" Make no mistake, you cunts are every bit the deadbeats men are when given the opportunity and even when you arent! Sometimes you just let your kids starve to de

If it doesn't pertain to you, don't get a pulse in your sphincter. I said too many men, not all men, dumbfuq.

Nice try bitch but the point is, women are just as bad and in some cases WORSE!

Nice try is the truth. If the description doesn't fit you, why go on a rant for a paragraph? And yes, there are terrible mothers that don't pay child support they owe.

So, stfu up asshole, no one was dragging you personally.

Your lopsided generalization is pure shit and in fact applies just as much to women as men. Too bad!

It's a fact that more men abandon their children after separation. There is a reason "deadbeat" dad became a common term.

 

[Lokmar]

I don’t know how or where being a REAL man who raises his children both financially and morally has turned into left v right.

I know of at least 4 men who I grew up with who were trapped by women into marriage. Yes, I said TRAPPED. They have all referred to it as some sort of miscommunication and I’m not sure how that happens. Women are either on birth control or they aren’t.

These men are all dedicated fathers. They married these women as soon as they found out they were pregnant and are now ALL divorced.

I don’t think unplanned pregnancies are easy for men or women and clearly a child conceived out of wedlock is going to present numerous issues for both parents, whether they choose to face their issues head on or run like cowards. These men I have referred to were all raised Catholic and have more morals than most when it comes to traditional family values.

Some people are selfish and only think of themselves and how a baby will negatively impact their lives. This is why I’m pro-life. I believe every child should benefit from a 2 parent LOVING home.

I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves. Those that couldn't meet those expectations often disappeared from their families, just walked away. Maybe it wasn't a good thing, but they didn't hang about whining, sniveling and feeling sorry for themselves if they had to provide support for their families.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

Mostly woke-ism. Also you're a moron if you think anyone here has whined about supporting their families. I have seen you do this multiple times already where you ignore what people actually said and instead build up a fantasy of what you wish they said or wrongly imagine they might have said.

That is not a good trait.

You complain about men having to spend up to 2/3rds, uncited of course, of their income on their children. That is in the other thread about the man paying support with pennies.

I mentioned that I personally know one man who does pay 2/3rds (between child support and spousal support) forcing him into poverty and homelessness even though it was his former wife who cheated on him while he was deployed. I also pointed out that his ex didn't spend the money on his kids and instead helped her boyfriend and their two kids with it. Oh, and I pointed out that she didn't marry her current boyfriend despite them having two children together. Yes, I do believe allowing the guy to mai tain basic shelter would be a better policy as it would improve his ability to provide for his family, but, you were clearly to stupid to understand even something as basic as that.

You have very poor reading comprehension then lie and pretend people said something they never did. Lying about other people's positions is a sign of low character and low intelligence.

Then this man should go and get his children and raise them. Isn't there shared custody where he lives?

I’m going to chime in here… any father who wants visitation can file an OSC with the court to obtain that. You don’t pay child support to rent your child. Also, you cannot withhold visitation due to unpaid support.

Too many men think that once they get divorced that child support is unfair. WTF?!

Bitch please! I got custody and my ex wife made 1 fucking $400 payment in the next 11 months it took us to divorce. Spare me. We finally wound up with no support and me having the kids 3/4 of the time. My current wife carried all the health insurance on them too and my ex never paid for health care bills....she only complained when we asked her and threattened to put em on her insurance. I told the stupid bitch she needed to put em on her health care once we paid for them for several years. Bitch had the nerve to say her work wouldnt allow her!!!! I told her, "ITS THE FUCKING LAW THAT THEY HAVE TOO< YOU LYING ASSED BITCH!!!" Make no mistake, you cunts are every bit the deadbeats men are when given the opportunity and even when you arent! Sometimes you just let your kids starve to de

If it doesn't pertain to you, don't get a pulse in your sphincter. I said too many men, not all men, dumbfuq.

Nice try bitch but the point is, women are just as bad and in some cases WORSE!

Nice try is the truth. If the description doesn't fit you, why go on a rant for a paragraph? And yes, there are terrible mothers that don't pay child support they owe.

So, stfu up asshole, no one was dragging you personally.

Your lopsided generalization is pure shit and in fact applies just as much to women as men. Too bad!

It's a fact that more men abandon their children after separation. There is a reason "deadbeat" dad became a common term.

And its a fact that women have been quite successful in becoming men's equals. Congrats!

 

[Lily]

I don’t know how or where being a REAL man who raises his children both financially and morally has turned into left v right.

I know of at least 4 men who I grew up with who were trapped by women into marriage. Yes, I said TRAPPED. They have all referred to it as some sort of miscommunication and I’m not sure how that happens. Women are either on birth control or they aren’t.

These men are all dedicated fathers. They married these women as soon as they found out they were pregnant and are now ALL divorced.

I don’t think unplanned pregnancies are easy for men or women and clearly a child conceived out of wedlock is going to present numerous issues for both parents, whether they choose to face their issues head on or run like cowards. These men I have referred to were all raised Catholic and have more morals than most when it comes to traditional family values.

Some people are selfish and only think of themselves and how a baby will negatively impact their lives. This is why I’m pro-life. I believe every child should benefit from a 2 parent LOVING home.

I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves. Those that couldn't meet those expectations often disappeared from their families, just walked away. Maybe it wasn't a good thing, but they didn't hang about whining, sniveling and feeling sorry for themselves if they had to provide support for their families.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

Mostly woke-ism. Also you're a moron if you think anyone here has whined about supporting their families. I have seen you do this multiple times already where you ignore what people actually said and instead build up a fantasy of what you wish they said or wrongly imagine they might have said.

That is not a good trait.

You complain about men having to spend up to 2/3rds, uncited of course, of their income on their children. That is in the other thread about the man paying support with pennies.

I mentioned that I personally know one man who does pay 2/3rds (between child support and spousal support) forcing him into poverty and homelessness even though it was his former wife who cheated on him while he was deployed. I also pointed out that his ex didn't spend the money on his kids and instead helped her boyfriend and their two kids with it. Oh, and I pointed out that she didn't marry her current boyfriend despite them having two children together. Yes, I do believe allowing the guy to mai tain basic shelter would be a better policy as it would improve his ability to provide for his family, but, you were clearly to stupid to understand even something as basic as that.

You have very poor reading comprehension then lie and pretend people said something they never did. Lying about other people's positions is a sign of low character and low intelligence.

Then this man should go and get his children and raise them. Isn't there shared custody where he lives?

I’m going to chime in here… any father who wants visitation can file an OSC with the court to obtain that. You don’t pay child support to rent your child. Also, you cannot withhold visitation due to unpaid support.

Too many men think that once they get divorced that child support is unfair. WTF?!

Bitch please! I got custody and my ex wife made 1 fucking $400 payment in the next 11 months it took us to divorce. Spare me. We finally wound up with no support and me having the kids 3/4 of the time. My current wife carried all the health insurance on them too and my ex never paid for health care bills....she only complained when we asked her and threattened to put em on her insurance. I told the stupid bitch she needed to put em on her health care once we paid for them for several years. Bitch had the nerve to say her work wouldnt allow her!!!! I told her, "ITS THE FUCKING LAW THAT THEY HAVE TOO< YOU LYING ASSED BITCH!!!" Make no mistake, you cunts are every bit the deadbeats men are when given the opportunity and even when you arent! Sometimes you just let your kids starve to de

If it doesn't pertain to you, don't get a pulse in your sphincter. I said too many men, not all men, dumbfuq.

Nice try bitch but the point is, women are just as bad and in some cases WORSE!

Nice try is the truth. If the description doesn't fit you, why go on a rant for a paragraph? And yes, there are terrible mothers that don't pay child support they owe.

So, stfu up asshole, no one was dragging you personally.

Your lopsided generalization is pure shit and in fact applies just as much to women as men. Too bad!

It's a fact that more men abandon their children after separation. There is a reason "deadbeat" dad became a common term.

And its a fact that women have been quite successful in becoming men's equals. Congrats!

I don't know the percentage of deadbeat moms to dads. Neither do you.

 

[Breakfall]

This has nothing to do with this thread, but does anyone know which forum @LotusBud is at? I want to shit in her mouth for shits n’ giggles and then get banned for laughs and post the exchange here. Quick please...the turtle’s head is nearly poking out!

 

[Breakfall]

Quick.....eeeeeeegh!

 

[Murdy]

I am willing to bet GOOD money that the dizzy pro-lifer doesn’t pay child support for the kid she lost. Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Lost? As in removed or adopted out?

taken… well shipped off by El Capitan Save a Hoe and then refused visitation when she was shooting up

Got it. Well, in all fairness, how is a junkie going to provide for a child? They can't even provide for themselves, all their money, from my understanding of the matter, goes to their drug habit.

… but… but… but… she was saved by a black pastor who took her and her fatherless child in and now is ANTI BLM

she could have eventually gotten visitation by proving herself to be stable… but online was more important post fucking Martini and violating HIPAA when she sent that poop pic. Instead, she jeopardized her only career path besides working at Taco Bell.

To be fair there is no excuse for any intelligent person to support a vile and evil self serving organization like BLM.

For the record, I supported JUSTICE and abandoned the peaceful protest movement when as it turned into FUCK the police.


it is MY right to peacefully protest in this country and I have zero clue what you’re blaming me for… I didn’t rely on a black man to rehabilitate me and care for me and my child’s needs and then shit in his face…. So….

 

[Breakfall]

Quick....aaaaaaaaaaghaaaaaaagh-eeeeeeeeeeeee!

 

[Breakfall]

LotusBottom’s other forum so I can sheeeeeit! Quick!

 

[Breakfall]

Well fuck off then...get fucked the lot of you! Fuck!

 

[Lily]

Well fuck off then...get fucked the lot of you! Fuck!

I don't know if she posts elsewhere, so I didn't respond. Honestly, if I did, I don't know that I would tell you. Isn't this place enough contact for you?

 

[Breakfall]

Well fuck off then...get fucked the lot of you! Fuck!

I don't know if she posts elsewhere, so I didn't respond. Honestly, if I did, I don't know that I would tell you. Isn't this place enough contact for you?

Marketing and fresh new traffic our way. That’s what I do.

In response to your thread, maybe your grandfather could best answer that for you. There was a time when men were men and women knew it. They doted on their husbands more and kept a good home. Nowadays with this liberal bullshit about, boys aren’t clipped across the back of the ear enough and they grow up to identify as anything but men. Very simple facts right there. Most blokes on this forum are quite conservatively the opposite haven’t you noticed?

 

[Lily]

Well fuck off then...get fucked the lot of you! Fuck!

I don't know if she posts elsewhere, so I didn't respond. Honestly, if I did, I don't know that I would tell you. Isn't this place enough contact for you?

Marketing and fresh new traffic our way. That’s what I do.

In response to your thread, maybe your grandfather could best answer that for you. There was a time when men were men and women knew it. They doted on their husbands more and kept a good home. Nowadays with this liberal bullshit about, boys aren’t clipped across the back of the ear enough and they grow up to identify as anything but men. Very simple facts right there. Most blokes on this forum are quite conservatively the opposite haven’t you noticed?

Please provide evidence that the vast majority of men, I would say 90%+, don't identify as men.

 

[Breakfall]

Well fuck off then...get fucked the lot of you! Fuck!

I don't know if she posts elsewhere, so I didn't respond. Honestly, if I did, I don't know that I would tell you. Isn't this place enough contact for you?

Marketing and fresh new traffic our way. That’s what I do.

In response to your thread, maybe your grandfather could best answer that for you. There was a time when men were men and women knew it. They doted on their husbands more and kept a good home. Nowadays with this liberal bullshit about, boys aren’t clipped across the back of the ear enough and they grow up to identify as anything but men. Very simple facts right there. Most blokes on this forum are quite conservatively the opposite haven’t you noticed?

Please provide evidence that the vast majority of men, I would say 90%+, don't identify as men.

Women’s liberation is particularly to blame. Also lesbians wanting to have babies, and procuring seed from queers.

 

[Lily]

Well fuck off then...get fucked the lot of you! Fuck!

I don't know if she posts elsewhere, so I didn't respond. Honestly, if I did, I don't know that I would tell you. Isn't this place enough contact for you?

Marketing and fresh new traffic our way. That’s what I do.

In response to your thread, maybe your grandfather could best answer that for you. There was a time when men were men and women knew it. They doted on their husbands more and kept a good home. Nowadays with this liberal bullshit about, boys aren’t clipped across the back of the ear enough and they grow up to identify as anything but men. Very simple facts right there. Most blokes on this forum are quite conservatively the opposite haven’t you noticed?

Please provide evidence that the vast majority of men, I would say 90%+, don't identify as men.

Women’s liberation is particularly to blame. Also lesbians wanting to have babies, and procuring seed from queers.

I got it, you have no data to support the baloney that boys aren't growing up to identify as men.

 

[Breakfall]

Well fuck off then...get fucked the lot of you! Fuck!

I don't know if she posts elsewhere, so I didn't respond. Honestly, if I did, I don't know that I would tell you. Isn't this place enough contact for you?

Marketing and fresh new traffic our way. That’s what I do.

In response to your thread, maybe your grandfather could best answer that for you. There was a time when men were men and women knew it. They doted on their husbands more and kept a good home. Nowadays with this liberal bullshit about, boys aren’t clipped across the back of the ear enough and they grow up to identify as anything but men. Very simple facts right there. Most blokes on this forum are quite conservatively the opposite haven’t you noticed?

Please provide evidence that the vast majority of men, I would say 90%+, don't identify as men.

Women’s liberation is particularly to blame. Also lesbians wanting to have babies, and procuring seed from queers.

I got it, you have no data to support the baloney that boys aren't growing up to identify as men.

Excuse me? I am a man living in this flakey world. Who the fuck needs data when it’s fucking plain to see. Use your head Lily!

 

[LotusBud]

Well fuck off then...get fucked the lot of you! Fuck!

I don't know if she posts elsewhere, so I didn't respond. Honestly, if I did, I don't know that I would tell you. Isn't this place enough contact for you?

Marketing and fresh new traffic our way. That’s what I do.

In response to your thread, maybe your grandfather could best answer that for you. There was a time when men were men and women knew it. They doted on their husbands more and kept a good home. Nowadays with this liberal bullshit about, boys aren’t clipped across the back of the ear enough and they grow up to identify as anything but men. Very simple facts right there. Most blokes on this forum are quite conservatively the opposite haven’t you noticed?

OMG. Are you serious with that shit?

Aren't you a house husband?

 

[Lily]

Well fuck off then...get fucked the lot of you! Fuck!

I don't know if she posts elsewhere, so I didn't respond. Honestly, if I did, I don't know that I would tell you. Isn't this place enough contact for you?

Marketing and fresh new traffic our way. That’s what I do.

In response to your thread, maybe your grandfather could best answer that for you. There was a time when men were men and women knew it. They doted on their husbands more and kept a good home. Nowadays with this liberal bullshit about, boys aren’t clipped across the back of the ear enough and they grow up to identify as anything but men. Very simple facts right there. Most blokes on this forum are quite conservatively the opposite haven’t you noticed?

Please provide evidence that the vast majority of men, I would say 90%+, don't identify as men.

Women’s liberation is particularly to blame. Also lesbians wanting to have babies, and procuring seed from queers.

I got it, you have no data to support the baloney that boys aren't growing up to identify as men.

Excuse me? I am a man living in this flakey world. Who the fuck needs data when it’s fucking plain to see. Use your head Lily!

You're emo. In the real world you see what? Online drama isn't the real world.

 

[Oerdin]

I am willing to bet GOOD money that the dizzy pro-lifer doesn’t pay child support for the kid she lost. Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Lost? As in removed or adopted out?

taken… well shipped off by El Capitan Save a Hoe and then refused visitation when she was shooting up

Got it. Well, in all fairness, how is a junkie going to provide for a child? They can't even provide for themselves, all their money, from my understanding of the matter, goes to their drug habit.

… but… but… but… she was saved by a black pastor who took her and her fatherless child in and now is ANTI BLM

she could have eventually gotten visitation by proving herself to be stable… but online was more important post fucking Martini and violating HIPAA when she sent that poop pic. Instead, she jeopardized her only career path besides working at Taco Bell.

To be fair there is no excuse for any intelligent person to support a vile and evil self serving organization like BLM.

For the record, I supported JUSTICE and abandoned the peaceful protest movement when as it turned into FUCK the police.


it is MY right to peacefully protest in this country and I have zero clue what you’re blaming me for… I didn’t rely on a black man to rehabilitate me and care for me and my child’s needs and then shit in his face…. So….

I am not blaming you for anything. I do think you have been caught up in the propaganda and haven't looked at the reality as much as you should. What BLM Action Network's ideology is (hint: they are self declared revolutionary marxists), what they actually do (namely, nothing remotely good and mostly just fly in destroy local communities and leave after the money and cameras leave), how the self declared leaders enrich themselves on the misery and lies they create, then the vast majority of the rest of the extorted money seems to just get funneled Democratic groups and campaigns. Hell, an astute observer would notice how it gets artificially built up every presidential election year then mostly disappears until the next election.

Maybe it is my background in Psyop but it quickly is easy to see the obvious manipulation and self serving nature of it all. It allows the high actors to manipulate low information people and after all that is left is burned and looted neighborhoods which are all worse off and more hopeless while a few activists and politicians get enriched and fly back home to their mansions.

 

[Murdy]

I am willing to bet GOOD money that the dizzy pro-lifer doesn’t pay child support for the kid she lost. Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Lost? As in removed or adopted out?

taken… well shipped off by El Capitan Save a Hoe and then refused visitation when she was shooting up

Got it. Well, in all fairness, how is a junkie going to provide for a child? They can't even provide for themselves, all their money, from my understanding of the matter, goes to their drug habit.

… but… but… but… she was saved by a black pastor who took her and her fatherless child in and now is ANTI BLM

she could have eventually gotten visitation by proving herself to be stable… but online was more important post fucking Martini and violating HIPAA when she sent that poop pic. Instead, she jeopardized her only career path besides working at Taco Bell.

To be fair there is no excuse for any intelligent person to support a vile and evil self serving organization like BLM.

For the record, I supported JUSTICE and abandoned the peaceful protest movement when as it turned into FUCK the police.


it is MY right to peacefully protest in this country and I have zero clue what you’re blaming me for… I didn’t rely on a black man to rehabilitate me and care for me and my child’s needs and then shit in his face…. So….

I am not blaming you for anything. I do think you have been caught up in the propaganda and haven't looked at the reality as much as you should. What BLM Action Network's ideology is (hint: they are self declared revolutionary marxists), what they actually do (namely, nothing remotely good and mostly just fly in destroy local communities and leave after the money and cameras leave), how the self declared leaders enrich themselves on the misery and lies they create, then the vast majority of the rest of the extorted money seems to just get funneled Democratic groups and campaigns. Hell, an astute observer would notice how it gets artificially built up every presidential election year then mostly disappears until the next election.

Maybe it is my background in Psyop but it quickly is easy to see the obvious manipulation and self serving nature of it all. It allows the high actors to manipulate low information people and after all that is left is burned and looted neighborhoods which are all worse off and more hopeless while a few activists and politicians get enriched and fly back home to their mansions.

Actually, I disagree with you wholeheartedly that it’s propaganda. I read trial transcripts as a hobby with a focus on historic cases. The black community has been targeted for the past century and riots that have destroyed communities have been resulting therefrom since the 1920s.

Most Republicans won’t admit there is a even an issue, which is the biggest part of this issue that’s never going to go away unless there is drastic change.

 

[Lily]

@Joe

Still waiting on what has been asked of the modern man that is "too much"?

 

[Joe]

@Joe

Still waiting on what has been asked of the modern man that is "too much"?

...such as seeing that many marriages don't last beyond 7 years anymore.

...such as in that case, there are huge 'exit fees'.

....such as they aint the marriages my parents, uncles and aunts use ta have...where they lasted and stayed together.

...such as seeing my cousins get stuck with the bill & the remains of broken marriages.

Yeah...believe it or not Lily...it's a lot to ask a man to lay down his cape for a woman if she leaves him & he ends up stuck with the bill/check. I've seen numerous friends in these 'modern marriages' go through it & it aint pretty.

In the end, there's no love left in these relationships, but the guy get stuck with 60-70-80-90-100 hour work weeks supporting that which is no longer his. The ony thing that remains for him are huge debts and support payments.

The experiences of his friends make an impact on a guy when he sees them struggling like that.

As for a woman, would she tolerate it if her best female (purely platonic) friend moved in with her, had a fight with her, then in the middle of the night took everything in the apartmnet, including the couch?

No, the women would probably tear each others' eyes out if they saw their ex -friends doing that.

And yet...that's what many men experience when their marriages fall apart.

They often end up losing everything and giving it up all of it to ther exes.

And then they're expected to grin and bear it.

 

[Lily]

@Joe

Still waiting on what has been asked of the modern man that is "too much"?

...such as seeing that many marriages don't last beyond 7 years anymore.

...such as in that case, there are hurge 'exit fees'.

....such as they aint the marriages my parents, uncles and aunts use ta have...where they lasted and stayed together.

...such as seeing my cousins get stuck with the bill & the remains of broken marriages.

Yeah...believe it or not Lily...it's a lot to ask a man to lay down his cape for a woman if she leaves him & he ends up stuck with the bill/check. I've seen numerous friends in these 'modern marriages' go through it & it aint pretty.

In the end, there's no love left in these relationships, but the guy get stuck with 60-70 hour work weeks supporting that which is no longer his. The ony thing that remains for him are huge debts and support payments.

The experiences of his friends make an impact on a guy when he sees them struggling like that.

As for a woman, would she tolerate it if her best female (purely platonic) friend moved in with her, had a fight with her, then in the middle of the night took everything in the apartmnet, including the couch?

No, the women would probably tear each others' eyes out if they saw their ex -friends doing that.

And yet...that's what many men experience when their marriages fall apart.

They often end up losing everything and giving iup all of it to ther exes.

And then they're expected to grin and bear it.

So asking a man to be responsible for the mess he helps create is asking too much? What do you mean "which is no longer his"?

And no, you're not going to get the marriage of 100 years ago when women had no way to support themselves.

You have to be partners, both have to contribute to the relationship with hard work, support, open mindedness, contributions that are to the family finances and housework.

In other words, men have to be mature and willing to have an equal partner. Perhaps you're right, you don't have what it takes. Hire the hookers Joe, they'll blow you, fuck you and tell you what you want to hear.

 

[Joe]

@Joe

Still waiting on what has been asked of the modern man that is "too much"?

...such as seeing that many marriages don't last beyond 7 years anymore.

...such as in that case, there are hurge 'exit fees'.

....such as they aint the marriages my parents, uncles and aunts use ta have...where they lasted and stayed together.

...such as seeing my cousins get stuck with the bill & the remains of broken marriages.

Yeah...believe it or not Lily...it's a lot to ask a man to lay down his cape for a woman if she leaves him & he ends up stuck with the bill/check. I've seen numerous friends in these 'modern marriages' go through it & it aint pretty.

In the end, there's no love left in these relationships, but the guy get stuck with 60-70 hour work weeks supporting that which is no longer his. The ony thing that remains for him are huge debts and support payments.

The experiences of his friends make an impact on a guy when he sees them struggling like that.

As for a woman, would she tolerate it if her best female (purely platonic) friend moved in with her, had a fight with her, then in the middle of the night took everything in the apartmnet, including the couch?

No, the women would probably tear each others' eyes out if they saw their ex -friends doing that.

And yet...that's what many men experience when their marriages fall apart.

They often end up losing everything and giving iup all of it to ther exes.

And then they're expected to grin and bear it.

So asking a man to be responsible for the mess he helps create is asking too much? What do you mean "which is no longer his"?

And no, you're not going to get the marriage of 100 years ago when women had no way to support themselves.

You have to be partners, both have to contribute to the relationship with hard work, support, open mindedness, contributions that are to the family finances and housework.

In other words, men have to be mature and willing to have an equal partner. Perhaps you're right, you don't have what it takes. Hire the hookers Joe, they'll blow you, fuck you and tell you what you want to hear.

No to the contrary.

Quite often these men are responsible, they do/did what they were thought and taught what was supposed to be morally right, and they are still given the short end of the stick.

It's not always the carpetbagging sleazy male who walks out on his wife.
Sometimes it's the other way around, but even if he's good...he still ends up paying the price.

Without a doubt there are men who are scumbags, but at the same time, there are many who are not, but they still end up getting the shaft.

...get it?

 

[Lily]

@Joe

Still waiting on what has been asked of the modern man that is "too much"?

...such as seeing that many marriages don't last beyond 7 years anymore.

...such as in that case, there are hurge 'exit fees'.

....such as they aint the marriages my parents, uncles and aunts use ta have...where they lasted and stayed together.

...such as seeing my cousins get stuck with the bill & the remains of broken marriages.

Yeah...believe it or not Lily...it's a lot to ask a man to lay down his cape for a woman if she leaves him & he ends up stuck with the bill/check. I've seen numerous friends in these 'modern marriages' go through it & it aint pretty.

In the end, there's no love left in these relationships, but the guy get stuck with 60-70 hour work weeks supporting that which is no longer his. The ony thing that remains for him are huge debts and support payments.

The experiences of his friends make an impact on a guy when he sees them struggling like that.

As for a woman, would she tolerate it if her best female (purely platonic) friend moved in with her, had a fight with her, then in the middle of the night took everything in the apartmnet, including the couch?

No, the women would probably tear each others' eyes out if they saw their ex -friends doing that.

And yet...that's what many men experience when their marriages fall apart.

They often end up losing everything and giving iup all of it to ther exes.

And then they're expected to grin and bear it.

So asking a man to be responsible for the mess he helps create is asking too much? What do you mean "which is no longer his"?

And no, you're not going to get the marriage of 100 years ago when women had no way to support themselves.

You have to be partners, both have to contribute to the relationship with hard work, support, open mindedness, contributions that are to the family finances and housework.

In other words, men have to be mature and willing to have an equal partner. Perhaps you're right, you don't have what it takes. Hire the hookers Joe, they'll blow you, fuck you and tell you what you want to hear.

No to the contrary.

Quite often these men are responsible, they do/did what they were thought and taught what was supposed to be morally right, and they are still given the short end of the stick.

It's not always the carpetbagging sleazy male who walks out on his wife.
Sometimes it's the other way around, but even if he's good...he still ends up paying the price.

Without a doubt there are men who are scumbags, but at the same time, there are many who are not, but they still end up getting the shaft.

...get it?

Sometimes marriage doesn't work out. You should know that marriages that end do so because of both parties. It is never 100% one partner's fault.

So, getting the shaft isn't accurate. It takes both parties to contribute 100% of their energy to a marriage one way or another. Most men, and some women, don't do that.