I don’t know how or where being a REAL man who raises his children both financially and morally has turned into left v right.
I know of at least 4 men who I grew up with who were trapped by women into marriage. Yes, I said TRAPPED. They have all referred to it as some sort of miscommunication and I’m not sure how that happens. Women are either on birth control or they aren’t.
These men are all dedicated fathers. They married these women as soon as they found out they were pregnant and are now ALL divorced.
I don’t think unplanned pregnancies are easy for men or women and clearly a child conceived out of wedlock is going to present numerous issues for both parents, whether they choose to face their issues head on or run like cowards. These men I have referred to were all raised Catholic and have more morals than most when it comes to traditional family values.
Some people are selfish and only think of themselves and how a baby will negatively impact their lives. This is why I’m pro-life. I believe every child should benefit from a 2 parent LOVING home.
I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves. Those that couldn't meet those expectations often disappeared from their families, just walked away. Maybe it wasn't a good thing, but they didn't hang about whining, sniveling and feeling sorry for themselves if they had to provide support for their families.
Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?
Mostly woke-ism. Also you're a moron if you think anyone here has whined about supporting their families. I have seen you do this multiple times already where you ignore what people actually said and instead build up a fantasy of what you wish they said or wrongly imagine they might have said.
That is not a good trait.
You complain about men having to spend up to 2/3rds, uncited of course, of their income on their children. That is in the other thread about the man paying support with pennies.
I mentioned that I personally know one man who does pay 2/3rds (between child support and spousal support) forcing him into poverty and homelessness even though it was his former wife who cheated on him while he was deployed. I also pointed out that his ex didn't spend the money on his kids and instead helped her boyfriend and their two kids with it. Oh, and I pointed out that she didn't marry her current boyfriend despite them having two children together. Yes, I do believe allowing the guy to mai tain basic shelter would be a better policy as it would improve his ability to provide for his family, but, you were clearly to stupid to understand even something as basic as that.
You have very poor reading comprehension then lie and pretend people said something they never did. Lying about other people's positions is a sign of low character and low intelligence.
Then this man should go and get his children and raise them. Isn't there shared custody where he lives?
I’m going to chime in here… any father who wants visitation can file an OSC with the court to obtain that. You don’t pay child support to rent your child. Also, you cannot withhold visitation due to unpaid support.
Too many men think that once they get divorced that child support is unfair. WTF?!
Bitch please! I got custody and my ex wife made 1 fucking $400 payment in the next 11 months it took us to divorce. Spare me. We finally wound up with no support and me having the kids 3/4 of the time. My current wife carried all the health insurance on them too and my ex never paid for health care bills....she only complained when we asked her and threattened to put em on her insurance. I told the stupid bitch she needed to put em on her health care once we paid for them for several years. Bitch had the nerve to say her work wouldnt allow her!!!! I told her, "ITS THE FUCKING LAW THAT THEY HAVE TOO< YOU LYING ASSED BITCH!!!" Make no mistake, you cunts are every bit the deadbeats men are when given the opportunity and even when you arent! Sometimes you just let your kids starve to death!
If it doesn't pertain to you, don't get a pulse in your sphincter. I said too many men, not all men, dumbfuq.
Nice try bitch but the point is, women are just as bad and in some cases WORSE!
Just look at how many of "mom's boyfriends" beat the shit out of or even rape the kids. And the moms just go along with it most of the time .
That is the TRUTH. Its terrifying these days thinking about dating or new relationships. People are horrible. Entitled.
There are so many signs early on within the first month of talking to anyone that they are abusive and I dont know why anyone settles for people like that. The first sign of controling behavior and lies should be the shut down.
I've definately read about dads wife or girlfriend abusing children as well....though it's not common.
True enough, I knew of a woman that met a man that pursued her online. He knew she was a single mom and struggling. He promised to take care of her, and her kids because they were hers. He was going to come out to where she lived and all the pretty lies that twisted men tell. He offered to help her out because he was "rich", a "millionaire".
The minute she, struggling hard, entertained the idea she was supposed to send him her "bills" so he could look at them before he considered paying her bills. Also came the startling demand that they would move to where he lived and the kids would be sent off to boarding school. He was going to control everything.
She realized that the was something really wrong with him. She was crazy for even talking to him. He had mistaken her vulnerable place in life for utter lack of will and for stupidity.
What did she do you might wonder? Well, she cold turkey stopped responding to his messages online. Full stop, never again spoke to him. Not one word. She blocked his number. He was a bit cuckoo online for awhile at the place they met, but never heard from him again. Ghosted him full stop. Best thing she could have done.
She heard about him a bit ago, maybe 3 years ago. Mr Moneybags had contacted a third individual the both knew for a "reference" to get an apartment somewhere in LA. Apparently, he was no longer at his "country home" in another Southern state.
It had all been a lie. Imagine that, a person pretending to be what he isn't online? Crazy huh? The moral of the story, some people do pick up on the psychos out there and avoid catastrophe.