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HOLY CRAP I remember that SunnyD being like, 5 bucks a gallon

Tampico used to be 1,99

Crap, things there are just as bad as here.

That's up north towards the arctic circle.

My brother moved his family there for a job years ago and would have buttfucked a random hobo for a caesar salad.

It's a remote region...
 

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HOLY CRAP I remember that SunnyD being like, 5 bucks a gallon

Tampico used to be 1,99

Crap, things there are just as bad as here.

That's up north towards the arctic circle.

My brother moved his family there for a job years ago and would have buttfucked a random hobo for a caesar salad.

It's a remote region...
Maybe those prices are in Canadian dollars then

They are...
 

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But….it’s all Elon Musk’s fault, according to the gay Libs on FB.
Oh now it's Musk's fault? Not Putin these days

it's just amazing the excuses those clowns will come up with


Yup. I got called all sorts of bitches for saying I want Musk to win. I’m a Trumptard, you name it, they said it lol

I wish I could say I was surprised but all the progressives have been melting down over a guy who says he just wants free speech.

Right?

Elon Musk doesnt spew the left wing narratives like he is supposed to so.....that makes him "teh right".

So they are hysterical over that.



I absolutely love Elon for telling all of them to go fuck themselves. He ain’t with the bullshit

Exchange 1 tech dictator for another @The Countess.

None is the better, eh?

Are we accusing Elon of being a tech dictator before we even see what happens now?

I think the Internet needs to be regulated with ordinary citizens being able to call out the excesses of Big Tech no matter who owns it.

I don't trust Elon Musk either.

He said shit like we need more people planet so he'll have more customers to buy his cars in the future.

Like any businessman he's just guided by his own selfish interests not the greater good.

That doesnt make him a dictator, Joe. You should wait and honestly judge what he does with Twitter before judging him prematurely of being just another big tech dictator.

I think we need an Internet Bill of Rights @Dove y.

And that would include among other things, setting limits on the power of Big Tech no matter who owns it.

We arent talking about that though. That's another topic.

You said Elon was just another big tech dictator but he hasnt even started anything yet. I'm saying it's unfair to judge someones performance before they even give it, is all.

Let the guy have a chance to show what he is about.

When WE were saying that same thing you just said we were patronized with the "private business can do what they want" thing. So someone came along to work within that.

And yet I agree with you that the present arrangement doesn't work either.

I also agree with you that the MSM has used fear mongering about Elon Musk and others without addressing the excesses of Big Tech which they should have when Parler got shut down. MSM was content to go along with the status quo and say nothing as long as it benefited them.

It's at that point that the government should have stepped in and slammed the brakes on Big Tech & told them they overstepped their acceptable limits.

The reason it comes down to 1 billionaire having to buy out another to achieve a perceived 'balance' or parity has been a lack of regulation. Likewise CNN can't close down fox news or vice versa because there's a regulatory body, the FCC, which prevents them from doing it.

Big Tech needs to be similarly regulated too.

Joe.....the government uses big tech. It's all pro establishment propaganda.

Did you miss how the press secretary even admitted the WH "works with" socail media?

They need to step way out. They are a huge part of the problem.
 

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But….it’s all Elon Musk’s fault, according to the gay Libs on FB.
Oh now it's Musk's fault? Not Putin these days

it's just amazing the excuses those clowns will come up with


Yup. I got called all sorts of bitches for saying I want Musk to win. I’m a Trumptard, you name it, they said it lol

I wish I could say I was surprised but all the progressives have been melting down over a guy who says he just wants free speech.

Right?

Elon Musk doesnt spew the left wing narratives like he is supposed to so.....that makes him "teh right".

So they are hysterical over that.



I absolutely love Elon for telling all of them to go fuck themselves. He ain’t with the bullshit

Exchange 1 tech dictator for another @The Countess.

None is the better, eh?

Are we accusing Elon of being a tech dictator before we even see what happens now?

I think the Internet needs to be regulated with ordinary citizens being able to call out the excesses of Big Tech no matter who owns it.

I don't trust Elon Musk either.

He said shit like we need more people planet so he'll have more customers to buy his cars in the future.

Like any businessman he's just guided by his own selfish interests not the greater good.

That doesnt make him a dictator, Joe. You should wait and honestly judge what he does with Twitter before judging him prematurely of being just another big tech dictator.

I think we need an Internet Bill of Rights @Dove y.

And that would include among other things, setting limits on the power of Big Tech no matter who owns it.

We arent talking about that though. That's another topic.

You said Elon was just another big tech dictator but he hasnt even started anything yet. I'm saying it's unfair to judge someones performance before they even give it, is all.

Let the guy have a chance to show what he is about.

When WE were saying that same thing you just said we were patronized with the "private business can do what they want" thing. So someone came along to work within that.

And yet I agree with you that the present arrangement doesn't work either.

I also agree with you that the MSM has used fear mongering about Elon Musk and others without addressing the excesses of Big Tech which they should have when Parler got shut down. MSM was content to go along with the status quo and say nothing as long as it benefited them.

It's at that point that the government should have stepped in and slammed the brakes on Big Tech & told them they overstepped their acceptable limits.

The reason it comes down to 1 billionaire having to buy out another to achieve a perceived 'balance' or parity has been a lack of regulation. Likewise CNN can't close down fox news or vice versa because there's a regulatory body, the FCC, which prevents them from doing it.

Big Tech needs to be similarly regulated too.

Joe.....the government uses big tech. It's all pro establishment propaganda.

Did you miss how the press secretary even admitted the WH "works with" socail media?

They need to step way out. They are a huge part of the problem.

....and do you think if Television were similarly unregulated like the Internet, that Fox News as an example, would be allowed to thrive alongside CNN and MSNBC?

That's why you have a government regulated body in television broadcasting.

so one TV network doesn't try to muzzle the other and shut them down like Big Tech did to Parler.

Ideally, you don't want one political bias shutting the other down like that.

There should be a balance of opposing political viewpoints.

Evidently that is what is missing from the Internet these days.

A couple of Big players shutting everyone else down that they don't like.

If government can regulate TV, they can do it to the Internet so that there is a fairer model than currently exists.

And, as I pointed out before, there should be an Internet Bill of Rights for citizens and consumers.

BTW, a government body in Germany prevented Google Earth from ramming its way into neighborhoods and photographing people's homes.




Perhaps not in the USA, but on other countries, the government does look out for the interests of their own citizens.

So it can be done in such a way that it benefits and protects the consumer and ordinary citizens.
 

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We typically buy a cow once a year and have it slaughtered.

Grocery store meat isnt the same after going that route. And it's actually cheaper just to do that (buy the cow). We are approaching that time a year and I'm wondering how much that cost went up.

I knew somebody who did that in Northern Canada.

They had this huge half body of a cow or moose sitting in their freezer.

Even tho i was 6 or 7 years old I never forget that. It was in the middle of winter really cold out. And he opened the freezer door and there was the body of a single animAL in a freezer several feet deep.

Senile @Joe thinks you just take the entire cow and put it in your freezer.

In one piece.

Senile @Joe, the meat is trimmed from the carcass. The bones and all other waste is discarded. Nobody put the whole animal in the freezer unless it is for scientific purposes or it is going to be cremated.
 

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We typically buy a cow once a year and have it slaughtered.

Grocery store meat isnt the same after going that route. And it's actually cheaper just to do that (buy the cow). We are approaching that time a year and I'm wondering how much that cost went up.

I knew somebody who did that in Northern Canada.

They had this huge half body of a cow or moose sitting in their freezer.

Even tho i was 6 or 7 years old I never forget that. It was in the middle of winter really cold out. And he opened the freezer door and there was the body of a single animAL in a freezer several feet deep.

Senile @Joe thinks you just take the entire cow and put it in your freezer.

In one piece.

Senile @Joe, the meat is trimmed from the carcass. The bones and all other waste is discarded. Nobody put the whole animal in the freezer unless it is for scientific purposes or it is going to be cremated.

As I remember the carcass had no legs no head and it's internal organs had been gutted it was just on big body of meat. A big red blob sitting the freezer perhaps weighing a couple hundred pounds. And it was frozen solid.

Beef-Carcasses-e1630000326835.jpg


Like a frozen Turkey you see in the supermarket except it appeared to be an Alberta cow. That's where I lived as a child.
 
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As I remember the carcass had no legs no head and it's internal organs had been gutted it was just on big body of meat. A big red blob sitting the freezer perhaps weighing a couple hundred pounds. And it was frozen solid.

Yeah, not how it is done, Senile @Joe.

Like a frozen Turkey you see in the supermarket except it appeared to be an Alberta cow. That's where I lived as a child.

Turkeys are cooked whole.

Cows are not.
 

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But….it’s all Elon Musk’s fault, according to the gay Libs on FB.
Oh now it's Musk's fault? Not Putin these days

it's just amazing the excuses those clowns will come up with


Yup. I got called all sorts of bitches for saying I want Musk to win. I’m a Trumptard, you name it, they said it lol

I wish I could say I was surprised but all the progressives have been melting down over a guy who says he just wants free speech.

Right?

Elon Musk doesnt spew the left wing narratives like he is supposed to so.....that makes him "teh right".

So they are hysterical over that.



I absolutely love Elon for telling all of them to go fuck themselves. He ain’t with the bullshit

Exchange 1 tech dictator for another @The Countess.

None is the better, eh?

Are we accusing Elon of being a tech dictator before we even see what happens now?

I think the Internet needs to be regulated with ordinary citizens being able to call out the excesses of Big Tech no matter who owns it.

I don't trust Elon Musk either.

He said shit like we need more people planet so he'll have more customers to buy his cars in the future.

Like any businessman he's just guided by his own selfish interests not the greater good.

That doesnt make him a dictator, Joe. You should wait and honestly judge what he does with Twitter before judging him prematurely of being just another big tech dictator.

I think we need an Internet Bill of Rights @Dove y.

And that would include among other things, setting limits on the power of Big Tech no matter who owns it.

We arent talking about that though. That's another topic.

You said Elon was just another big tech dictator but he hasnt even started anything yet. I'm saying it's unfair to judge someones performance before they even give it, is all.

Let the guy have a chance to show what he is about.

When WE were saying that same thing you just said we were patronized with the "private business can do what they want" thing. So someone came along to work within that.

And yet I agree with you that the present arrangement doesn't work either.

I also agree with you that the MSM has used fear mongering about Elon Musk and others without addressing the excesses of Big Tech which they should have when Parler got shut down. MSM was content to go along with the status quo and say nothing as long as it benefited them.

It's at that point that the government should have stepped in and slammed the brakes on Big Tech & told them they overstepped their acceptable limits.

The reason it comes down to 1 billionaire having to buy out another to achieve a perceived 'balance' or parity has been a lack of regulation. Likewise CNN can't close down fox news or vice versa because there's a regulatory body, the FCC, which prevents them from doing it.

Big Tech needs to be similarly regulated too.

^^^ a collective of election stealing Trump hating beings bought out by a perceived libertarian is....get it.... a lack of balance and regulation!

Bwahahahahahaha...

But I'm no fan or groupie of Elon Musk tho.
Never have been.

ie - faults with his driverless cars which ran over and killed people.
This is a key issue about his products and lack of accountability.
Will we all be able to criticize Tesla for safety issues on the new and revamped Twitter?




ie - Musk 'worries' about a steep population decline on a planet which is fast depleting its remaining natural resources. Am I also free to criticiae Musk about the flaws in his arguments on Twitter as well?



You're digging an uncharacteristically deeper hole that you even don't often start...


I never have liked nor trusted Elon Musk - long before he bought Twitter, and I indicated that in prior posts months ago.

I also said the same thing about your hero Putin as well.

"Hero Putin" is why its a waste of time to have a civil discussion with you.
 

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But….it’s all Elon Musk’s fault, according to the gay Libs on FB.
Oh now it's Musk's fault? Not Putin these days

it's just amazing the excuses those clowns will come up with


Yup. I got called all sorts of bitches for saying I want Musk to win. I’m a Trumptard, you name it, they said it lol

I wish I could say I was surprised but all the progressives have been melting down over a guy who says he just wants free speech.

Right?

Elon Musk doesnt spew the left wing narratives like he is supposed to so.....that makes him "teh right".

So they are hysterical over that.



I absolutely love Elon for telling all of them to go fuck themselves. He ain’t with the bullshit

Exchange 1 tech dictator for another @The Countess.

None is the better, eh?

Are we accusing Elon of being a tech dictator before we even see what happens now?

I think the Internet needs to be regulated with ordinary citizens being able to call out the excesses of Big Tech no matter who owns it.

I don't trust Elon Musk either.

He said shit like we need more people planet so he'll have more customers to buy his cars in the future.

Like any businessman he's just guided by his own selfish interests not the greater good.

That doesnt make him a dictator, Joe. You should wait and honestly judge what he does with Twitter before judging him prematurely of being just another big tech dictator.

I think we need an Internet Bill of Rights @Dove y.

And that would include among other things, setting limits on the power of Big Tech no matter who owns it.

We arent talking about that though. That's another topic.

You said Elon was just another big tech dictator but he hasnt even started anything yet. I'm saying it's unfair to judge someones performance before they even give it, is all.

Let the guy have a chance to show what he is about.

When WE were saying that same thing you just said we were patronized with the "private business can do what they want" thing. So someone came along to work within that.

And yet I agree with you that the present arrangement doesn't work either.

I also agree with you that the MSM has used fear mongering about Elon Musk and others without addressing the excesses of Big Tech which they should have when Parler got shut down. MSM was content to go along with the status quo and say nothing as long as it benefited them.

It's at that point that the government should have stepped in and slammed the brakes on Big Tech & told them they overstepped their acceptable limits.

The reason it comes down to 1 billionaire having to buy out another to achieve a perceived 'balance' or parity has been a lack of regulation. Likewise CNN can't close down fox news or vice versa because there's a regulatory body, the FCC, which prevents them from doing it.

Big Tech needs to be similarly regulated too.

Joe.....the government uses big tech. It's all pro establishment propaganda.

Did you miss how the press secretary even admitted the WH "works with" socail media?

They need to step way out. They are a huge part of the problem.

....and do you think if Television were similarly unregulated like the Internet, that Fox News as an example, would be allowed to thrive alongside CNN and MSNBC?

That's why you have a government regulated body in television broadcasting.

so one TV network doesn't try to muzzle the other and shut them down like Big Tech did to Parler.

Ideally, you don't want one political bias shutting the other down like that.

There should be a balance of opposing political viewpoints.

Evidently that is what is missing from the Internet these days.

A couple of Big players shutting everyone else down that they don't like.

If government can regulate TV, they can do it to the Internet so that there is a fairer model than currently exists.

And, as I pointed out before, there should be an Internet Bill of Rights for citizens and consumers.

BTW, a government body in Germany prevented Google Earth from ramming its way into neighborhoods and photographing people's homes.




Perhaps not in the USA, but on other countries, the government does look out for the interests of their own citizens.

So it can be done in such a way that it benefits and protects the consumer and ordinary citizens.


Joe Fox IS thriving. Maybe even more so than the other corporate sources you mentioned.

With all the deep divisions, all the corporate media is thriving. They all take advantage of it.

Again we have these issues today BECAUSE the government uses big tech and corporate media. Fox is the sort of counter.....they dont distort the truth as much, but they will use emotional language.

The fact that so many people see it as a paradigm... .your news sources are either left wing corporate or right wing corporate and THATS our options....is exactly why we need less government meddling in our "news"

We need more objective options that will hold the government to the fires of scrunity regardless of what party is in charge.

Look at how you are reasoning through this. It's either left or right and our choices are left wing corporate sources and their lackies like Salon and slate and Vox who just echo the CNN and MSNCB ones.....or its Fox news and the other right wing ones.

Its drives me nuts that it's working. The left has gone so batshit that literally ANYONE who contradicts what their left wing sources say is an automatic right winger and the enemy.

I see absolutely nothing wrong with Elon Musk buying twitter and changing things up. Even if he does turn out to be another big tech dictator....I mean nothing changes because big tech dictatorship has BEEN a thing for years now and it's used to influence elections. Not just here but other countries.

We dont suddenly just now need MORE government regulation now that the platform may be shifting in a way that provides more liberty with speech and a more even playing feild. Government meddling in socail media literally was a left wing dictatorship that was used to manipulate elections.

No one wanted more regulations during the time of people being silenced and news was being censored.
 

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But….it’s all Elon Musk’s fault, according to the gay Libs on FB.
Oh now it's Musk's fault? Not Putin these days

it's just amazing the excuses those clowns will come up with


Yup. I got called all sorts of bitches for saying I want Musk to win. I’m a Trumptard, you name it, they said it lol

I wish I could say I was surprised but all the progressives have been melting down over a guy who says he just wants free speech.

Right?

Elon Musk doesnt spew the left wing narratives like he is supposed to so.....that makes him "teh right".

So they are hysterical over that.



I absolutely love Elon for telling all of them to go fuck themselves. He ain’t with the bullshit

Exchange 1 tech dictator for another @The Countess.

None is the better, eh?

Are we accusing Elon of being a tech dictator before we even see what happens now?

I think the Internet needs to be regulated with ordinary citizens being able to call out the excesses of Big Tech no matter who owns it.

I don't trust Elon Musk either.

He said shit like we need more people planet so he'll have more customers to buy his cars in the future.

Like any businessman he's just guided by his own selfish interests not the greater good.

That doesnt make him a dictator, Joe. You should wait and honestly judge what he does with Twitter before judging him prematurely of being just another big tech dictator.

I think we need an Internet Bill of Rights @Dove y.

And that would include among other things, setting limits on the power of Big Tech no matter who owns it.

We arent talking about that though. That's another topic.

You said Elon was just another big tech dictator but he hasnt even started anything yet. I'm saying it's unfair to judge someones performance before they even give it, is all.

Let the guy have a chance to show what he is about.

When WE were saying that same thing you just said we were patronized with the "private business can do what they want" thing. So someone came along to work within that.

And yet I agree with you that the present arrangement doesn't work either.

I also agree with you that the MSM has used fear mongering about Elon Musk and others without addressing the excesses of Big Tech which they should have when Parler got shut down. MSM was content to go along with the status quo and say nothing as long as it benefited them.

It's at that point that the government should have stepped in and slammed the brakes on Big Tech & told them they overstepped their acceptable limits.

The reason it comes down to 1 billionaire having to buy out another to achieve a perceived 'balance' or parity has been a lack of regulation. Likewise CNN can't close down fox news or vice versa because there's a regulatory body, the FCC, which prevents them from doing it.

Big Tech needs to be similarly regulated too.

^^^ a collective of election stealing Trump hating beings bought out by a perceived libertarian is....get it.... a lack of balance and regulation!

Bwahahahahahaha...

But I'm no fan or groupie of Elon Musk tho.
Never have been.

ie - faults with his driverless cars which ran over and killed people.
This is a key issue about his products and lack of accountability.
Will we all be able to criticize Tesla for safety issues on the new and revamped Twitter?




ie - Musk 'worries' about a steep population decline on a planet which is fast depleting its remaining natural resources. Am I also free to criticiae Musk about the flaws in his arguments on Twitter as well?



You're digging an uncharacteristically deeper hole that you even don't often start...


I never have liked nor trusted Elon Musk - long before he bought Twitter, and I indicated that in prior posts months ago.

I also said the same thing about your hero Putin as well.

"Hero Putin" is why its a waste of time to have a civil discussion with you.


That's because the left wing hysterics that we have to be on an extreme.

Disagree with anything they say or anything left wing media tells them.....you are a "putin worshipper"

It doesn't matter we all hate Putin as he is embodies everything we stand against as Americans....and he doesnt support liberty and individual rights.

If you dont hop on a left wing bandwagon and agree with them you are a Putin worshiper.

If corporate media wasnt pumping this ghoulish Trump/Putin propaganda? No one would say this. But the seeds were planted in their minds and they will go right to that as if it's true. Its comfortable for them.

It's why having a big tech and corporate media be a left wing monopoly is such a shit show.

I dont think any of them realize the heavy media fueled bias they have.
 

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But….it’s all Elon Musk’s fault, according to the gay Libs on FB.
Oh now it's Musk's fault? Not Putin these days

it's just amazing the excuses those clowns will come up with


Yup. I got called all sorts of bitches for saying I want Musk to win. I’m a Trumptard, you name it, they said it lol

I wish I could say I was surprised but all the progressives have been melting down over a guy who says he just wants free speech.

Right?

Elon Musk doesnt spew the left wing narratives like he is supposed to so.....that makes him "teh right".

So they are hysterical over that.



I absolutely love Elon for telling all of them to go fuck themselves. He ain’t with the bullshit

Exchange 1 tech dictator for another @The Countess.

None is the better, eh?

Are we accusing Elon of being a tech dictator before we even see what happens now?

I think the Internet needs to be regulated with ordinary citizens being able to call out the excesses of Big Tech no matter who owns it.

I don't trust Elon Musk either.

He said shit like we need more people planet so he'll have more customers to buy his cars in the future.

Like any businessman he's just guided by his own selfish interests not the greater good.

That doesnt make him a dictator, Joe. You should wait and honestly judge what he does with Twitter before judging him prematurely of being just another big tech dictator.

I think we need an Internet Bill of Rights @Dove y.

And that would include among other things, setting limits on the power of Big Tech no matter who owns it.

We arent talking about that though. That's another topic.

You said Elon was just another big tech dictator but he hasnt even started anything yet. I'm saying it's unfair to judge someones performance before they even give it, is all.

Let the guy have a chance to show what he is about.

When WE were saying that same thing you just said we were patronized with the "private business can do what they want" thing. So someone came along to work within that.

And yet I agree with you that the present arrangement doesn't work either.

I also agree with you that the MSM has used fear mongering about Elon Musk and others without addressing the excesses of Big Tech which they should have when Parler got shut down. MSM was content to go along with the status quo and say nothing as long as it benefited them.

It's at that point that the government should have stepped in and slammed the brakes on Big Tech & told them they overstepped their acceptable limits.

The reason it comes down to 1 billionaire having to buy out another to achieve a perceived 'balance' or parity has been a lack of regulation. Likewise CNN can't close down fox news or vice versa because there's a regulatory body, the FCC, which prevents them from doing it.

Big Tech needs to be similarly regulated too.

^^^ a collective of election stealing Trump hating beings bought out by a perceived libertarian is....get it.... a lack of balance and regulation!

Bwahahahahahaha...

But I'm no fan or groupie of Elon Musk tho.
Never have been.

ie - faults with his driverless cars which ran over and killed people.
This is a key issue about his products and lack of accountability.
Will we all be able to criticize Tesla for safety issues on the new and revamped Twitter?




ie - Musk 'worries' about a steep population decline on a planet which is fast depleting its remaining natural resources. Am I also free to criticiae Musk about the flaws in his arguments on Twitter as well?



You're digging an uncharacteristically deeper hole that you even don't often start...


I never have liked nor trusted Elon Musk - long before he bought Twitter, and I indicated that in prior posts months ago.

I also said the same thing about your hero Putin as well.

"Hero Putin" is why its a waste of time to have a civil discussion with you.


That's because the left wing hysterics that we have to be on an extreme.

Disagree with anything they say or anything left wing media tells them.....you are a "putin worshipper"

It doesn't matter we all hate Putin as he is embodies everything we stand against as Americans....and he doesnt support liberty and individual rights.

If you dont hop on a left wing bandwagon and agree with them you are a Putin worshiper.

If corporate media wasnt pumping this ghoulish Trump/Putin propaganda? No one would say this. But the seeds were planted in their minds and they will go right to that as if it's true. Its comfortable for them.

It's why having a big tech and corporate media be a left wing monopoly is such a shit show.

I dont think any of them realize the heavy media fueled bias they have.


@Dove a long time ago I was uneasy about Putin. Mainly because he was sending out his assassin squads to hunt down his enemies abroad.

I've never endorsed this consortium of Big Tech either which btw is not 'Left' but Corporatists which represent Neo Liberal Elites & their Interests.

And yes some of its advocates are fretting now that Musk has bought Twitter when before they should have been lobbying for a fairer, more honest & open Internet. Because they hadn't we're just stuck with the status quo of cyberspace controlled by Tech Tyrants be it Big Tech or Elon Musk.

As you're aware, the Internet was created for the purpose of allowing the free exchange of ideas and information. However it's become quite evident that a few large control corporations it now.

It shouldn't come down to someone paying $44 billion to 'own' a piece of something which was supposed to be free and then profiting from it. The real life equivalent is someone claiming to 'own' all the sand and water in the oceans or the air we breathe then charging you for its use. Of course this is absurd & if someone attempted to do so governments & the courts would Intervene to prevent it.

Evidently tho, they haven't prevented this kind of abuse & monopolization of the Internet by Big Tech in North America.
 
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Fresh fish from the Fisherman. Fresh produce and meat at the farmers market. Easy, and affordable. Beer, and booze are different.
 

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Catsup here doesn’t even approach $16. I live in the 3rd world. Where do you shop?
 

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But….it’s all Elon Musk’s fault, according to the gay Libs on FB.
Oh now it's Musk's fault? Not Putin these days

it's just amazing the excuses those clowns will come up with


Yup. I got called all sorts of bitches for saying I want Musk to win. I’m a Trumptard, you name it, they said it lol

I wish I could say I was surprised but all the progressives have been melting down over a guy who says he just wants free speech.

Right?

Elon Musk doesnt spew the left wing narratives like he is supposed to so.....that makes him "teh right".

So they are hysterical over that.



I absolutely love Elon for telling all of them to go fuck themselves. He ain’t with the bullshit

Exchange 1 tech dictator for another @The Countess.

None is the better, eh?

Are we accusing Elon of being a tech dictator before we even see what happens now?

I think the Internet needs to be regulated with ordinary citizens being able to call out the excesses of Big Tech no matter who owns it.

I don't trust Elon Musk either.

He said shit like we need more people planet so he'll have more customers to buy his cars in the future.

Like any businessman he's just guided by his own selfish interests not the greater good.

That doesnt make him a dictator, Joe. You should wait and honestly judge what he does with Twitter before judging him prematurely of being just another big tech dictator.

I think we need an Internet Bill of Rights @Dove y.

And that would include among other things, setting limits on the power of Big Tech no matter who owns it.

We arent talking about that though. That's another topic.

You said Elon was just another big tech dictator but he hasnt even started anything yet. I'm saying it's unfair to judge someones performance before they even give it, is all.

Let the guy have a chance to show what he is about.

When WE were saying that same thing you just said we were patronized with the "private business can do what they want" thing. So someone came along to work within that.

And yet I agree with you that the present arrangement doesn't work either.

I also agree with you that the MSM has used fear mongering about Elon Musk and others without addressing the excesses of Big Tech which they should have when Parler got shut down. MSM was content to go along with the status quo and say nothing as long as it benefited them.

It's at that point that the government should have stepped in and slammed the brakes on Big Tech & told them they overstepped their acceptable limits.

The reason it comes down to 1 billionaire having to buy out another to achieve a perceived 'balance' or parity has been a lack of regulation. Likewise CNN can't close down fox news or vice versa because there's a regulatory body, the FCC, which prevents them from doing it.

Big Tech needs to be similarly regulated too.

^^^ a collective of election stealing Trump hating beings bought out by a perceived libertarian is....get it.... a lack of balance and regulation!

Bwahahahahahaha...

But I'm no fan or groupie of Elon Musk tho.
Never have been.

ie - faults with his driverless cars which ran over and killed people.
This is a key issue about his products and lack of accountability.
Will we all be able to criticize Tesla for safety issues on the new and revamped Twitter?




ie - Musk 'worries' about a steep population decline on a planet which is fast depleting its remaining natural resources. Am I also free to criticiae Musk about the flaws in his arguments on Twitter as well?



You're digging an uncharacteristically deeper hole that you even don't often start...


I never have liked nor trusted Elon Musk - long before he bought Twitter, and I indicated that in prior posts months ago.

I also said the same thing about your hero Putin as well.

"Hero Putin" is why its a waste of time to have a civil discussion with you.


That's because the left wing hysterics that we have to be on an extreme.

Disagree with anything they say or anything left wing media tells them.....you are a "putin worshipper"

It doesn't matter we all hate Putin as he is embodies everything we stand against as Americans....and he doesnt support liberty and individual rights.

If you dont hop on a left wing bandwagon and agree with them you are a Putin worshiper.

If corporate media wasnt pumping this ghoulish Trump/Putin propaganda? No one would say this. But the seeds were planted in their minds and they will go right to that as if it's true. Its comfortable for them.

It's why having a big tech and corporate media be a left wing monopoly is such a shit show.

I dont think any of them realize the heavy media fueled bias they have.


@Dove a long time ago I was uneasy about Putin. Mainly because he was sending out his assassin squads to hunt down his enemies abroad.

I've never endorsed this consortium of Big Tech either which btw is not 'Left' but Corporatists which represent Neo Liberal Elites & their Interests.

And yes some of its advocates are fretting now that Musk has bought Twitter when before they should have been lobbying for a fairer, more honest & open Internet. Because they hadn't we're just stuck with the status quo of cyberspace controlled by Tech Tyrants be it Big Tech or Elon Musk.

As you're aware, the Internet was created for the purpose of allowing the free exchange of ideas and information. However it's become quite evident that a few large control corporations it now.

It shouldn't come down to someone paying $44 billion to 'own' a piece of something which was supposed to be free and then profiting from it. The real life equivalent is someone claiming to 'own' all the sand and water in the oceans or the air we breathe then charging you for its use. Of course this is absurd & if someone attempted to do so governments & the courts would Intervene to prevent it.

Evidently tho, they haven't prevented this kind of abuse & monopolization of the Internet by Big Tech in North America.


Well Joe....Twitter is just a socail media platform.

In the comparison you made, it would be more like someone purchasing a private beach. Twitter is more like a private beach than the whole internet.

I do agree about the monopolizing though.
 

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On the other hand i picked up a half price Gammon joint a week ago for 2.50 quid, thats a bit under 4 yankee dollars. Lasted 6 days, 2 roasts, stews and sandwiches. I love my bargains.
 

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We typically buy a cow once a year and have it slaughtered.

Grocery store meat isnt the same after going that route. And it's actually cheaper just to do that (buy the cow). We are approaching that time a year and I'm wondering how much that cost went up.

My late father was a trained butcher so would buy a cow/ lamb or pig then joint it for the freezer. About a quarter the cost of supermarkets. Really was cheap as chips.
 

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EVERYTHING. Every single grocery item.


But….it’s all Elon Musk’s fault, according to the gay Libs on FB.

We're all going to weather this shit as long as we tighten our belts on extra items and buy critical ones where it's affordable.

But extra points for shelf stable proteins and heirloom seeds...

And a big fucking machete if firearms aren't easily accessible in your area.

Just sayin'...

I REALLY need to get some seeds, just in case.

I also want to get some Bushcraft tools.

Machete ok, a parang would slice better lol. Deadskinmask taught me that a clawhammer hatchet would work better in a survival situation, as it has multiple uses, and easier to swing in close quarters. I have my Dad's, its old as fuck. My friend's call it The Medieval Hammer lol.

Get some seeds and start planting. It's a good habit to get into.

I've never done it, and dont know if I can where I live, due to the shade trees. I have thought of trying to do some this year, using 5 gallon buckets that I can move into the sun. Just start off with some German Pink tomatoes, maybe some squash. But still get various seeds, just in case.
Fresh fish from the Fisherman. Fresh produce and meat at the farmers market. Easy, and affordable. Beer, and booze are different.

Learn hone brewing. It is not very hard.
 

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Nice thought Oerdin. Too much other shit on my plate. I’m kinda hooked on Imperial Lite, brewed here. It’s just generic lite beer but it has a nice dry flavor.
 

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$16.79 for Catsup?
This has been discussed in this thread. Those prices are from some of the most remote places on Earth that are inhabited: The Canadian Arctic Injun towns. Only small planes can fly there, so logistics is a nightmare. There are no roads in or out, and sea travel isn't an option. Even flights get regularly cancelled, due to harsh weather.

It is not a place where most people want to live, but yet they exist there. Mostly Eskimos, and they are subsidized to live where they do.
 

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As you're aware, the Internet was created for the purpose of allowing the free exchange of ideas and information.

What an idiot.

That was its ideal for its peacetime use.

Altho the US military establishment had a different purpose for it in the event of war.

I don't believe its inventors envisioned the purpose of the Internet was to be monopolized by a few large corporations to maniacally control entire nations and limit our freedoms.
 
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$16.79 for Catsup?
This has been discussed in this thread. Those prices are from some of the most remote places on Earth that are inhabited: The Canadian Arctic Injun towns. Only small planes can fly there, so logistics is a nightmare. There are no roads in or out, and sea travel isn't an option. Even flights get regularly cancelled, due to harsh weather.

It is not a place where most people want to live, but yet they exist there. Mostly Eskimos, and they are subsidized to live where they do.

Catsup here for the same amount, different US brand for 3500 colones. About $5.
 

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As you're aware, the Internet was created for the purpose of allowing the free exchange of ideas and information. However it's become quite evident that a few large control corporations it now.
What an idiot.
That was its ideal for its peacetime use.

Altho the US military establishment had a different purpose for it in the event of war.

I don't believe its inventors envisioned the purpose of the Internet was to be monopolized by a few large corporations to maniacally control entire nations and limit our freedoms.

The Internet was not "created for the purpose of allowing the free exchange of ideas and information."

More words is not going to make it true.