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Isn't it funny how Democrats want completely open borders for Central Americans as well as anyone who happens to show up at the southern border (many of which come from Africa and Asia). Yet Biden has specifically said he doesn't want and will block any and all Cubans who come to the US. Why? Simple, Dems only want people who vote for them.

Cubans have seen how evil and dysfunctional communism is so they don't vote for left wingers. Ergo, Biden's latest flip flop where he wants open borders but not for Cubans.

 

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When a certain ex friend of mine first flipped on me, she was ranting in a FB group to a friend of mine who came here from Cuba and supports Trump.

And she was going off to him about how I "follow a white supremacist"(Trump).

He HATES communism. Total MAGA Trump supporter.

He told me that when stuff like that happens it's like a gift lol

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The other funny shit is watching Biden, the Democrats, and the MSM are claiming the protesters in Cuba are just upset about not having enough covid vaccines. The people are screaming "freedom" and "death to the dictator" not "we want covid shots". Dems are so far off their rocker they lying and defending violent, brutal communist dictatorships because they are fellow travelers with the communists.
 

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The other funny shit is watching Biden, the Democrats, and the MSM are claiming the protesters in Cuba are just upset about not having enough covid vaccines. The people are screaming "freedom" and "death to the dictator" not "we want covid shots". Dems are so far off their rocker they lying and defending violent, brutal communist dictatorships because they are fellow travelers with the communists.

Lmao are you serious?!

They are revolting against communism. Ffs.

Good gawd.....and their base probably believes them. And will call all of us stupid Qanon idiots.

They are so brainwashed its scary.

If THIS ghoulish display from democrats and the corporate media doesnt wake them up? Fuck them so hard. They are lost causes. The mindless hypocrisy and total disregard of the country is just disgusting.

And yes I used to think the left was wrong. Now I assert they are evil. They act demonic. They are liars....flat out liars.
 
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Communism has been a mixed bag for Cuba.

some of it Good. Some of it Bad.

But at least it managed to elevate the living standards of Cubans so they weren't starving to death.

And the communists provided them education and decent healthcare.

But there are no free elections nor a multiparty system.

Freedom of sepeech and expression is limied.

Same time, what they had before was a Right Wing Dcitatorship beholden to beholden to US corporate interests.

While what they have today is a left wing dictatorship.

Still, the lot of the aveerage Cuban is much better than it was 70 years ago.
 

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Communism has been a mixed bag for Cuba.

some of it Good. Some of it Bad.

But at least it managed to elevate the living standards of Cubans so they weren't starving to death.

And the communists provided them education and decent healthcare.

But there are no free elections nor a multiparty system.

Freedom of sepeech and expression is limied.

Same time, what they had before was a Right Wing Dcitatorship beholden to beholden to US corporate interests.

While what they have today is a left wing dictatorship.

Still, the lot of the aveerage Cuban is much better than it was 70 years ago.
They're way worse off than if they had capitalism for the last 60 years. You know what you said was EXACTLY proportionately true for Soviet Russians and Red Chinese. Their peoples were better off in 1980 than they were in 1940. What idiot in his right mind would say either of those people lived under governments that weren't "all bad" YOU of course!
 

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Communism has been a mixed bag for Cuba.

some of it Good. Some of it Bad.

But at least it managed to elevate the living standards of Cubans so they weren't starving to death.

And the communists provided them education and decent healthcare.

But there are no free elections nor a multiparty system.

Freedom of sepeech and expression is limied.

Same time, what they had before was a Right Wing Dcitatorship beholden to beholden to US corporate interests.

While what they have today is a left wing dictatorship.

Still, the lot of the aveerage Cuban is much better than it was 70 years ago.

What they have now is bad enough to make them revolt and fight it.

It's clearly miserable like what refugees say.
 
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Communism has been a mixed bag for Cuba.

some of it Good. Some of it Bad.

But at least it managed to elevate the living standards of Cubans so they weren't starving to death.

And the communists provided them education and decent healthcare.

But there are no free elections nor a multiparty system.

Freedom of sepeech and expression is limied.

Same time, what they had before was a Right Wing Dcitatorship beholden to beholden to US corporate interests.

While what they have today is a left wing dictatorship.

Still, the lot of the aveerage Cuban is much better than it was 70 years ago.

It is measurably worse in just about every possible way. From material items to basic food to personal wealth to control over their own lives. It is so bad that Cuba is famous for trained female doctors having to work as street whores on the side just to have enough food to eat. It turns out paying doctors $20 a month doesn't even pay for basic food.
 

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Communism has been a mixed bag for Cuba.

some of it Good. Some of it Bad.

But at least it managed to elevate the living standards of Cubans so they weren't starving to death.

And the communists provided them education and decent healthcare.

But there are no free elections nor a multiparty system.

Freedom of sepeech and expression is limied.

Same time, what they had before was a Right Wing Dcitatorship beholden to beholden to US corporate interests.

While what they have today is a left wing dictatorship.

Still, the lot of the aveerage Cuban is much better than it was 70 years ago.

What they have now is bad enough to make them revolt and fight it.

It's clearly miserable like what refugees say.

But obviously it couldn't have been that good before the communists.

Otherwise they wouldn't have fought so hard to get rid of the previous regime.
 
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Communism has been a mixed bag for Cuba.

some of it Good. Some of it Bad.

But at least it managed to elevate the living standards of Cubans so they weren't starving to death.

And the communists provided them education and decent healthcare.

But there are no free elections nor a multiparty system.

Freedom of sepeech and expression is limied.

Same time, what they had before was a Right Wing Dcitatorship beholden to beholden to US corporate interests.

While what they have today is a left wing dictatorship.

Still, the lot of the aveerage Cuban is much better than it was 70 years ago.

What they have now is bad enough to make them revolt and fight it.

It's clearly miserable like what refugees say.

But obviously it couldn't have been that good before the communists.

Otherwise they wouldn't have fought so hard to get rid of the previous regime.

Actually, Cuba was the second richest country in Latin America after Venezuela. It did have a very oppressive dictatorship with hated secret police but economically it was well off. Now, the tourists hire women as hookers for $10 per night or less while in Venezuela the going rate is $1 or just some food.

The wonders of communism is that it reduces the people to abject poverty while the dictator and his cronies become wealthy beyond belief.
 

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Communism has been a mixed bag for Cuba.

some of it Good. Some of it Bad.

But at least it managed to elevate the living standards of Cubans so they weren't starving to death.

And the communists provided them education and decent healthcare.

But there are no free elections nor a multiparty system.

Freedom of sepeech and expression is limied.

Same time, what they had before was a Right Wing Dcitatorship beholden to beholden to US corporate interests.

While what they have today is a left wing dictatorship.

Still, the lot of the aveerage Cuban is much better than it was 70 years ago.

It is measurably worse in just about every possible way. From material items to basic food to personal wealth to control over their own lives. It is so bad that Cuba is famous for trained female doctors having to work as street whores on the side just to have enough food to eat. It turns out paying doctors $20 a month doesn't even pay for basic food.

What you say may be true Oerdin.

However, if I had a choice to travel to a Latin American country as a tourist, Cuba would be near the top of my list.

At least a person could go there, and the odss would favor them coming back alive, with their wallet intact and in one piece.

A lot of those other Latin American countries are dangerous to visit, including the nation you live next to, Mexico.

I've heard of numerous stories of people who went to Mexico and either got robbed, assaulted or didn't come back alive.

by ad large from people who went to Cuba, they all told me it was clean and safe.

Anyways, they all made it back in one piece.

It's not perfect, but it seems a lot better than ll the others.
 

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Communism has been a mixed bag for Cuba.

some of it Good. Some of it Bad.

But at least it managed to elevate the living standards of Cubans so they weren't starving to death.

And the communists provided them education and decent healthcare.

But there are no free elections nor a multiparty system.

Freedom of sepeech and expression is limied.

Same time, what they had before was a Right Wing Dcitatorship beholden to beholden to US corporate interests.

While what they have today is a left wing dictatorship.

Still, the lot of the aveerage Cuban is much better than it was 70 years ago.

What they have now is bad enough to make them revolt and fight it.

It's clearly miserable like what refugees say.

But obviously it couldn't have been that good before the communists.

Otherwise they wouldn't have fought so hard to get rid of the previous regime.

Totalitarianism always fucking sucks, Joe. Now they fighting to be free from this one.
 

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Communism has been a mixed bag for Cuba.

some of it Good. Some of it Bad.

But at least it managed to elevate the living standards of Cubans so they weren't starving to death.

And the communists provided them education and decent healthcare.

But there are no free elections nor a multiparty system.

Freedom of sepeech and expression is limied.

Same time, what they had before was a Right Wing Dcitatorship beholden to beholden to US corporate interests.

While what they have today is a left wing dictatorship.

Still, the lot of the aveerage Cuban is much better than it was 70 years ago.

What they have now is bad enough to make them revolt and fight it.

It's clearly miserable like what refugees say.

But obviously it couldn't have been that good before the communists.

Otherwise they wouldn't have fought so hard to get rid of the previous regime.

Actually, Cuba was the second richest country in Latin America after Venezuela. It did have a very oppressive dictatorship with hated secret police but economically it was well off. Now, the tourists hire women as hookers for $10 per night or less while in Venezuela the going rate is $1 or just some food.

The wonders of communism is that it reduces the people to abject poverty while the dictator and his cronies become wealthy beyond belief.

And people want that shit here.

Our democrat party has embarrassed marxism and aligns with communists. That's how bad they want control and to push out authentic liberal/conservative values.

Our government isnt anywhere near trustworthy for us to give them that control. If leftists think the cronyism and corporatism is bad NOW? Why the fuck do they think this corruption would just go away and the establishment will be magically fair and transparent if they have more of our income, control over our medical options and available funds? Are a good chunk are against private property so everything would be controlled by the state. Everything.

They are going right down the same exact path every other "revolution" went down. And we have a plethora of examples... and they point to Capitalist countries to argue it.

All the people who fought for communism thought it was fair and just and would be good for them as well. But all that ever happens is authoritarian government, mass human suffering and death. Its oppression.

You would think the fact that the whole "system" and the elites being favorable to them would tell them something.
 

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Communism has been a mixed bag for Cuba.

some of it Good. Some of it Bad.

But at least it managed to elevate the living standards of Cubans so they weren't starving to death.

And the communists provided them education and decent healthcare.

But there are no free elections nor a multiparty system.

Freedom of sepeech and expression is limied.

Same time, what they had before was a Right Wing Dcitatorship beholden to beholden to US corporate interests.

While what they have today is a left wing dictatorship.

Still, the lot of the aveerage Cuban is much better than it was 70 years ago.

What they have now is bad enough to make them revolt and fight it.

It's clearly miserable like what refugees say.

But obviously it couldn't have been that good before the communists.

Otherwise they wouldn't have fought so hard to get rid of the previous regime.
Dude, you're so fukin retarded I can barely believe you're alive.
 

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East Germany vs West Germany josephine. Ya damned fool. Was East Germany better than right after the war? Yea. Was it good? HELL NAW!!!! Meanwhile, East Germany embezzled and blackmailed money from the West just to survive.
 

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East Germany vs West Germany josephine. Ya damned fool. Was East Germany better than right after the war? Yea. Was it good? HELL NAW!!!! Meanwhile, East Germany embezzled and blackmailed money from the West just to survive.

Well if the previous regime to Castro's was so damn good, why didn't it last, Lokmeer?

Why did the Bautista regime get the boot?

Couldn't have been that good as many Cubans were starving and illiterate when the Cmmunists took over.

It was just a Banana Republic controlled by the CIA and the Mafia. No wonder the people revolted.

I'm not saing that what they have now is ideal by any means, but it's probably a lot better than when Castro took over the place 60 years ago as this scene in the Godfather illustrates

 

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East Germany vs West Germany josephine. Ya damned fool. Was East Germany better than right after the war? Yea. Was it good? HELL NAW!!!! Meanwhile, East Germany embezzled and blackmailed money from the West just to survive.

Well if the previous regime to Castro's was so damn good, why didn't it last, Lokmeer?

Why did the Bautista regime get the boot?

Couldn't have been that good as many Cubans were starving and illiterate when the Cmmunists took over.

It was just a Banana Republic controlled by the CIA and the Mafia. No wonder the people revolted.

I'm not saing that what they have now is ideal by any means, but it's probably a lot better than when Castro took over the place 60 years ago as this scene in the Godfather illustrates



Joe.....no one is saying what they had before was good.

Totalitarianism is misery. It all sucks. Its oppression. That's why they over threw that and why they want to over throw this.
 
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Pay attention to that part at the beginning where per capita income was higher than Austria or Japan and that wages were the 8th highest in the world.
 

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East Germany vs West Germany josephine. Ya damned fool. Was East Germany better than right after the war? Yea. Was it good? HELL NAW!!!! Meanwhile, East Germany embezzled and blackmailed money from the West just to survive.

Well if the previous regime to Castro's was so damn good, why didn't it last, Lokmeer?

Why did the Bautista regime get the boot?

Couldn't have been that good as many Cubans were starving and illiterate when the Cmmunists took over.

It was just a Banana Republic controlled by the CIA and the Mafia. No wonder the people revolted.

I'm not saing that what they have now is ideal by any means, but it's probably a lot better than when Castro took over the place 60 years ago as this scene in the Godfather illustrates



Joe.....no one is saying what they had before was good.

Totalitarianism is misery. It all sucks. Its oppression. That's why they over threw that and why they want to over throw this.


Y'know Dovey, it would be ideal if Cuba could transition into a democracy.

If let to their own devices and free from foreign interference, they probably could.

But the Powers that Be, being who they are, probably wouldn't let them.

I'm sure if the corporations had their way, they'd 'better' the place by installing a MacDonald's Golden Arches on every street corner & stamping out all traces of the previous regime.

Then turn it into some Right wing corporate dicatorship just like in the good old days.

The totaliratrianism your make refernce to is prevalent in Cuba.

But if you compare it to some of the crime ridden shitholes in the Caribean like Haiti or the Dominican Republic, Cuba compares quite favourably & they avoided becoming like them.

Tho not without its faults, Cuba made some remarkable advances in Medicine.
ie - the Meningitis B vaccine came from Cuba.
 
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East Germany vs West Germany josephine. Ya damned fool. Was East Germany better than right after the war? Yea. Was it good? HELL NAW!!!! Meanwhile, East Germany embezzled and blackmailed money from the West just to survive.

Well if the previous regime to Castro's was so damn good, why didn't it last, Lokmeer?

Why did the Bautista regime get the boot?

Couldn't have been that good as many Cubans were starving and illiterate when the Cmmunists took over.

It was just a Banana Republic controlled by the CIA and the Mafia. No wonder the people revolted.

I'm not saing that what they have now is ideal by any means, but it's probably a lot better than when Castro took over the place 60 years ago as this scene in the Godfather illustrates



Joe.....no one is saying what they had before was good.

Totalitarianism is misery. It all sucks. Its oppression. That's why they over threw that and why they want to over throw this.


Y'know Dovey, it would be ideal if Cuba could transition into a democracy.

If let to their own devices and free from foreign interference, they probably could.

But the Powers that Be, being who they are, probably wouldn't let them.

I'm sure if the corporations had their way, they'd 'better' the place by installing a MacDonald's Golden Arches on every street corner & stamping out all traces of the previous regime.

Then turn it into some Right wing corporate dicatorship just like in the good old days.

The totaliratrianism your make refernce to is prevalent in Cuba.

But if you compare it to some of the crime ridden shitholes in the Caribean like Haiti or the Dominican Republic, Cuba compares quite favourably & they avoided becoming like them.

Tho not without its faults, Cuba made some remarkable advances in Medicine.
ie - the Meningitis B vaccine came from Cuba.


I mean......they could just get rid of the totalitarianism.

They could do that.

Then they wouldnt have to over throw their government so often lol

Maybe they will become a Constitutional Republic.....since so many of them love America.
 

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East Germany vs West Germany josephine. Ya damned fool. Was East Germany better than right after the war? Yea. Was it good? HELL NAW!!!! Meanwhile, East Germany embezzled and blackmailed money from the West just to survive.

Well if the previous regime to Castro's was so damn good, why didn't it last, Lokmeer?

Why did the Bautista regime get the boot?

Couldn't have been that good as many Cubans were starving and illiterate when the Cmmunists took over.

It was just a Banana Republic controlled by the CIA and the Mafia. No wonder the people revolted.

I'm not saing that what they have now is ideal by any means, but it's probably a lot better than when Castro took over the place 60 years ago as this scene in the Godfather illustrates


josephine, your powers of idiocy are astounding! Change doesnt mean what you get afterwards is always better. Read some history, dummy! Sometimes people have it good and they make a swap for shit sammie. Happens all the time. The chink gubmints wasnt all that great so some cunts convinced idiots JUST LIKE YUO to trade it for communism and 100 MILLION died as a result! Thats a stone cold FACT, josephine. But how do we know they woulda been better under capitalism? Taiwan, asshole! Thats how! Just accept that you're a fukin idiot and I'm better than you josephine and it'll all come together for you.
 

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East Germany vs West Germany josephine. Ya damned fool. Was East Germany better than right after the war? Yea. Was it good? HELL NAW!!!! Meanwhile, East Germany embezzled and blackmailed money from the West just to survive.

Well if the previous regime to Castro's was so damn good, why didn't it last, Lokmeer?

Why did the Bautista regime get the boot?

Couldn't have been that good as many Cubans were starving and illiterate when the Cmmunists took over.

It was just a Banana Republic controlled by the CIA and the Mafia. No wonder the people revolted.

I'm not saing that what they have now is ideal by any means, but it's probably a lot better than when Castro took over the place 60 years ago as this scene in the Godfather illustrates



Joe.....no one is saying what they had before was good.

Totalitarianism is misery. It all sucks. Its oppression. That's why they over threw that and why they want to over throw this.


Y'know Dovey, it would be ideal if Cuba could transition into a democracy.

If let to their own devices and free from foreign interference, they probably could.

But the Powers that Be, being who they are, probably wouldn't let them.

I'm sure if the corporations had their way, they'd 'better' the place by installing a MacDonald's Golden Arches on every street corner & stamping out all traces of the previous regime.

Then turn it into some Right wing corporate dicatorship just like in the good old days.

The totaliratrianism your make refernce to is prevalent in Cuba.

But if you compare it to some of the crime ridden shitholes in the Caribean like Haiti or the Dominican Republic, Cuba compares quite favourably & they avoided becoming like them.

Tho not without its faults, Cuba made some remarkable advances in Medicine.
ie - the Meningitis B vaccine came from Cuba.


I mean......they could just get rid of the totalitarianism.

They could do that.

Then they wouldnt have to over throw their government so often lol

Maybe they will become a Constitutional Republic.....since so many of them love America.


I kind of get the feeling that if it happens, it'll be a messy transiition.

There's obviously a blood feud between the Communists and the people they threw out who now reside in Florida.

Castro killed a lot of their brothers and associates when he took over the place.

The Communists were very ruthless.

Revolution didn't come without a price.

I suppose they can't or won't forget the Bay of Pigs invasion either.
 

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East Germany vs West Germany josephine. Ya damned fool. Was East Germany better than right after the war? Yea. Was it good? HELL NAW!!!! Meanwhile, East Germany embezzled and blackmailed money from the West just to survive.

Well if the previous regime to Castro's was so damn good, why didn't it last, Lokmeer?

Why did the Bautista regime get the boot?

Couldn't have been that good as many Cubans were starving and illiterate when the Cmmunists took over.

It was just a Banana Republic controlled by the CIA and the Mafia. No wonder the people revolted.

I'm not saing that what they have now is ideal by any means, but it's probably a lot better than when Castro took over the place 60 years ago as this scene in the Godfather illustrates



Joe.....no one is saying what they had before was good.

Totalitarianism is misery. It all sucks. Its oppression. That's why they over threw that and why they want to over throw this.


Y'know Dovey, it would be ideal if Cuba could transition into a democracy.

If let to their own devices and free from foreign interference, they probably could.

But the Powers that Be, being who they are, probably wouldn't let them.

I'm sure if the corporations had their way, they'd 'better' the place by installing a MacDonald's Golden Arches on every street corner & stamping out all traces of the previous regime.

Then turn it into some Right wing corporate dicatorship just like in the good old days.

The totaliratrianism your make refernce to is prevalent in Cuba.

But if you compare it to some of the crime ridden shitholes in the Caribean like Haiti or the Dominican Republic, Cuba compares quite favourably & they avoided becoming like them.

Tho not without its faults, Cuba made some remarkable advances in Medicine.
ie - the Meningitis B vaccine came from Cuba.


I mean......they could just get rid of the totalitarianism.

They could do that.

Then they wouldnt have to over throw their government so often lol

Maybe they will become a Constitutional Republic.....since so many of them love America.


I kind of get the feeling that if it happens, it'll be a messy transiition.

There's obviously a blood feud between the Communists and the people they threw out who now reside in Florida.

Castro killed a lot of their brothers.

I suppose they can't or won't forget the Bay of Pigs invasion either.

That fuking cunt Kennedy created this whole mess! He could have avoided Cuba turning into a shithole but he was a fukin coward and got what he deserved.
 

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Other thing about Casto is its reputed that besides having a bevy of mistresses he lived like a King while many Cubans lived under sanctions and rationing:




So in the regard, he was like any communist dictator who lived like a millionaire while projecting an image of socialist egalitarianism
 
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Given that we now know the communists had working nukes on Cuba with orders to fire them if invaded... It is better that we didn't. At least not because of the Cuban missile crisis. Now, if Eisenhower had invaded in 1959 then that could have been done cleanly.