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I've thought about trying to explain it to simpletons like Lily. It's probably pointless, though.

But I'm going to try real quickly...

Take two people. One is vaccinated, one is not.

Both get infected by virus.

The virus in the vaccinated person infects some cells and produces 995 normal Covid-19 viruses, and 5 different mutations. One mutation is vaccine resistant. The antibodies that are there due to vaccine go to work and "kill" the 995 normal viruses, and four of the mutations. But the one vaccine-resistant mutation is left alone. It now can infect and multiple without competition from the other viruses that have been "killed" by the antibodies. So it infects other cells, multiplies, and spreads as viruses tend to do when the body has not built-up immunity. Now that person can shed the new, vaccine resistant variant of the virus.

Similar infection with an non-vaccinated person. The virus infects some cells and produces 995 normal Covid-19 viruses, and 5 different mutations. There are no anti-bodies yet, so the viruses spread and compete for host cells. The 995 normal viruses become dominant and that infection spreads due to it outnumbering any of the mutations. The mutations are very likely to be overwhelmed and not survive. So the normal Covid-19 virus is the one that will potentially be shed by that person.

The whole "unvaccinated people are responsible for the variants" is anti-science. It's bullshit propaganda. it is designed to pressure people to get vaccinated, and also to increase conflict between the pro and anti-jab groups. It is not an effective way to fight a pandemic. Rolling out vaccines in areas where the target virus is actively being spread is a recipe for disaster. This is why flu vaccines are always rolled out before the virus is active. They anticipate what strains will be active, and they create vaccines based on that. When they see a different strain being spread, they do not "tweak" the vaccines because they know that is dangerous.

The delta variant came out of India when there were extremely low vaccination rates. Care to explain that?

My understanding is delta (though not the new lambda varient) was just a regular mutation in the spike protein which had the advantage of spreading faster in the body and thus could replicate itself more quickly. That is just a normal bad luck mutation.

Prowler seems to be talking about selective pressure and the vaccine resistance being a new selective pressure. Frankly, many medical researchers are now saying gaining natural immunity by getting a post vaccination infection (with low chance for serious complications due to the vaccine) is probably better than a booster shot. Those booster shots would be better directed to unvaccinated people.
 
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I've thought about trying to explain it to simpletons like Lily. It's probably pointless, though.

But I'm going to try real quickly...

Take two people. One is vaccinated, one is not.

Both get infected by virus.

The virus in the vaccinated person infects some cells and produces 995 normal Covid-19 viruses, and 5 different mutations. One mutation is vaccine resistant. The antibodies that are there due to vaccine go to work and "kill" the 995 normal viruses, and four of the mutations. But the one vaccine-resistant mutation is left alone. It now can infect and multiple without competition from the other viruses that have been "killed" by the antibodies. So it infects other cells, multiplies, and spreads as viruses tend to do when the body has not built-up immunity. Now that person can shed the new, vaccine resistant variant of the virus.

Similar infection with an non-vaccinated person. The virus infects some cells and produces 995 normal Covid-19 viruses, and 5 different mutations. There are no anti-bodies yet, so the viruses spread and compete for host cells. The 995 normal viruses become dominant and that infection spreads due to it outnumbering any of the mutations. The mutations are very likely to be overwhelmed and not survive. So the normal Covid-19 virus is the one that will potentially be shed by that person.

The whole "unvaccinated people are responsible for the variants" is anti-science. It's bullshit propaganda. it is designed to pressure people to get vaccinated, and also to increase conflict between the pro and anti-jab groups. It is not an effective way to fight a pandemic. Rolling out vaccines in areas where the target virus is actively being spread is a recipe for disaster. This is why flu vaccines are always rolled out before the virus is active. They anticipate what strains will be active, and they create vaccines based on that. When they see a different strain being spread, they do not "tweak" the vaccines because they know that is dangerous.

The delta variant came out of India when there were extremely low vaccination rates. Care to explain that?

My understanding is delta (though not the new lambda varient) was just a regular mutation in the spike protein which had the advantage of spreading faster in the body and thus could replicate itself more quickly. That is just a normal bad luck mutation.

Prowler seems to be talking about selective pressure and the vaccine resistance being a new selective pressure. Frankly, many medical researchers are now saying gaining natural immunity by getting a post vaccination infection (with low chance for serious complications due to the vaccine) is probably better than a booster shot. Those booster shots would be better directed to unvaccinated people.


The shots are designed to kill off the population.

Refuse the shots.
 
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I've thought about trying to explain it to simpletons like Lily. It's probably pointless, though.

But I'm going to try real quickly...

Take two people. One is vaccinated, one is not.

Both get infected by virus.

The virus in the vaccinated person infects some cells and produces 995 normal Covid-19 viruses, and 5 different mutations. One mutation is vaccine resistant. The antibodies that are there due to vaccine go to work and "kill" the 995 normal viruses, and four of the mutations. But the one vaccine-resistant mutation is left alone. It now can infect and multiple without competition from the other viruses that have been "killed" by the antibodies. So it infects other cells, multiplies, and spreads as viruses tend to do when the body has not built-up immunity. Now that person can shed the new, vaccine resistant variant of the virus.

Similar infection with an non-vaccinated person. The virus infects some cells and produces 995 normal Covid-19 viruses, and 5 different mutations. There are no anti-bodies yet, so the viruses spread and compete for host cells. The 995 normal viruses become dominant and that infection spreads due to it outnumbering any of the mutations. The mutations are very likely to be overwhelmed and not survive. So the normal Covid-19 virus is the one that will potentially be shed by that person.

The whole "unvaccinated people are responsible for the variants" is anti-science. It's bullshit propaganda. it is designed to pressure people to get vaccinated, and also to increase conflict between the pro and anti-jab groups. It is not an effective way to fight a pandemic. Rolling out vaccines in areas where the target virus is actively being spread is a recipe for disaster. This is why flu vaccines are always rolled out before the virus is active. They anticipate what strains will be active, and they create vaccines based on that. When they see a different strain being spread, they do not "tweak" the vaccines because they know that is dangerous.

The delta variant came out of India when there were extremely low vaccination rates. Care to explain that?

My understanding is delta (though not the new lambda varient) was just a regular mutation in the spike protein which had the advantage of spreading faster in the body and thus could replicate itself more quickly. That is just a normal bad luck mutation.

Prowler seems to be talking about selective pressure and the vaccine resistance being a new selective pressure. Frankly, many medical researchers are now saying gaining natural immunity by getting a post vaccination infection (with low chance for serious complications due to the vaccine) is probably better than a booster shot. Those booster shots would be better directed to unvaccinated people.


The shots are designed to kill off the population.

Refuse the shots.

I feel for you in Oz my friend, I really do. Resist!!!! I would stand with you my friend. I would not be a soy boy with a camera recording someone being carried away, I'd be all in and ready to defend my brothers.
 

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That was a niche thing only confined to certain cultures in Africa. Not in the New World nor in the Muslim world which had about 8-10 times larger slave trade with sub Sahara Africa over a far longer period. Slavery is still practiced in the Muslim world.
 

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You're a comlpete moron if you think the New World Order has fuck all to do with communism. Do you honestly not understand the simple FACT that bilionaire oligarchs hate communism and socialism because those systems might help working people and prevent them from becoming wage and debt slaves?

This is why you people keep voting against your own self interests. You vote for people like Trump, not understanding that socialism would actually make your life better, and billionaire narcissists don't give two fucks about you.
 

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You're a comlpete moron if you think the New World Order has fuck all to do with communism. Do you honestly not understand the simple FACT that bilionaire oligarchs hate communism and socialism because those systems might help working people and prevent them from becoming wage and debt slaves?

This is why you people keep voting against your own self interests. You vote for people like Trump, not understanding that socialism would actually make your life better, and billionaire narcissists don't give two fucks about you.
Fuck off cunt. You never like it when your bullshit is exposed. I cant say I blame you. After all, you're a piece of shit so I expect you to behave as one.
 
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Well said Lokmar, as always.

Thanks for taking care of my light work.
 

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You're a comlpete moron if you think the New World Order has fuck all to do with communism. Do you honestly not understand the simple FACT that bilionaire oligarchs hate communism and socialism because those systems might help working people and prevent them from becoming wage and debt slaves?

This is why you people keep voting against your own self interests. You vote for people like Trump, not understanding that socialism would actually make your life better, and billionaire narcissists don't give two fucks about you.

This is where you are wrong. Communism and socailism never work, because the powerful and wealthy are NEVER going to allow it.....so that's correct. I know you guys like to point to countries like Norway and Denmark, et. These are small capitalist countries whose socailists systems work because they are small and they trust their government.

But do you know why they (the wealthy and powerful) love selling it? Because it makes them wealthier and gives the powerful MORE power.

You guys vote for what you think is in our best interest. You have no idea what's coming. Look at the scam, Lotus. Bernie endorsed the very establishment of wealthy and powerful you guys oppose. AOC wines and dines with wealthy elites while peasents protest outside. Come ON.... do you think its NOT a power grabby scam?

Why on earth do you think giving these people MORE power over us would make them magically more altruistic?
 
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Well said Lokmar, as always.

Thanks for taking care of my light work.

Lokbrain is by far the dumbest and most insane poster I have ever run across on any forum. And you are on his wave length. LMAO@U!!!!!!
 

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Well said Lokmar, as always.

Thanks for taking care of my light work.

Lokbrain is by far the dumbest and most insane poster I have ever run across on any forum. And you are on his wave length. LMAO@U!!!!!!
Communism only works in heaven, where they don’t need it, and in hell, where they’ve already got it. - Ronald Reagan

Dumb bitch thinks she's smarter than Reagan too, of course.
 
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Well said Lokmar, as always.

Thanks for taking care of my light work.

Lokbrain is by far the dumbest and most insane poster I have ever run across on any forum. And you are on his wave length. LMAO@U!!!!!!

You're gawdamn right Im on his wavelength! Woooooooo!!!!!!!!

Lok is just as Patriotic as I am, we both stand for Liberty and Freedom!!!

You on the other hand, are not. You fled from this great land.

Lok is also God fearing! Perhaps more than I am. Its a good quality to be...... ya heathen!!

Get you some Jesus! Your life might not be so miserable anymore.
 

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Just FYI, Blazor, New World Order is a CON thing.

And I'll bet you a million bucks that my life is far more interesting, free, and fufilling than yours is.
 

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I've thought about trying to explain it to simpletons like Lily. It's probably pointless, though.

But I'm going to try real quickly...

Take two people. One is vaccinated, one is not.

Both get infected by virus.

The virus in the vaccinated person infects some cells and produces 995 normal Covid-19 viruses, and 5 different mutations. One mutation is vaccine resistant. The antibodies that are there due to vaccine go to work and "kill" the 995 normal viruses, and four of the mutations. But the one vaccine-resistant mutation is left alone. It now can infect and multiple without competition from the other viruses that have been "killed" by the antibodies. So it infects other cells, multiplies, and spreads as viruses tend to do when the body has not built-up immunity. Now that person can shed the new, vaccine resistant variant of the virus.

Similar infection with an non-vaccinated person. The virus infects some cells and produces 995 normal Covid-19 viruses, and 5 different mutations. There are no anti-bodies yet, so the viruses spread and compete for host cells. The 995 normal viruses become dominant and that infection spreads due to it outnumbering any of the mutations. The mutations are very likely to be overwhelmed and not survive. So the normal Covid-19 virus is the one that will potentially be shed by that person.

The whole "unvaccinated people are responsible for the variants" is anti-science. It's bullshit propaganda. it is designed to pressure people to get vaccinated, and also to increase conflict between the pro and anti-jab groups. It is not an effective way to fight a pandemic. Rolling out vaccines in areas where the target virus is actively being spread is a recipe for disaster. This is why flu vaccines are always rolled out before the virus is active. They anticipate what strains will be active, and they create vaccines based on that. When they see a different strain being spread, they do not "tweak" the vaccines because they know that is dangerous.

The delta variant came out of India when there were extremely low vaccination rates. Care to explain that?

My understanding is delta (though not the new lambda varient) was just a regular mutation in the spike protein which had the advantage of spreading faster in the body and thus could replicate itself more quickly. That is just a normal bad luck mutation.

Prowler seems to be talking about selective pressure and the vaccine resistance being a new selective pressure. Frankly, many medical researchers are now saying gaining natural immunity by getting a post vaccination infection (with low chance for serious complications due to the vaccine) is probably better than a booster shot. Those booster shots would be better directed to unvaccinated people.

I agree. I don't think any boosters should be given yet and the push should be for everyone on the planet to be vaccinated. Because of the way people move around this planet, it is just as important to the overall health of the US for everyone in India to be vaccinated as it is for everyone in the US to be.

My fully vaccinated son just had very low-symptom Covid. I'm hoping he's super immune now.
 

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Just FYI, Blazor, New World Order is a CON thing.

And I'll bet you a million bucks that my life is far more interesting, free, and fufilling than yours is.
Doubtful of that. Blazor’s life is rich with music and free will. Blazor appreciates life more than you ever will. You’re jaded and a sheeple essentially. Thank fuck Portugal will take in your turds.
 

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Just FYI, Blazor, New World Order is a CON thing.

And I'll bet you a million bucks that my life is far more interesting, free, and fufilling than yours is.
Doubtful of that. Blazor’s life is rich with music and free will. Blazor appreciates life more than you ever will. You’re jaded and a sheeple essentially. Thank fuck Portugal will take in your turds.

Shows you what you know. Music is a way of life here. it is everywhere. I step out my front door and hear a fado concert or jazz, or even techno music. It is everywhere, like I said. But I am being literal.

Please list the areas in which I do not have free will. I can travel anywhere, I can live anywhere, I can enjoy any kind of relationship I want. If I wanted a gun I could get one. I just don't want one, like most in Portugal. Where is my free will stunted?

Blazor only appreciates his little bigoted corner of the world. He hates everyone who's not like his own racist self. How is that an appreciation of life? I am actually seeing the world, and I love all the different kinds of people and histories that are in it.