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There's so much misinformation Dove, including by our prime minister..They lied, or answered in a way to indicate they considered Roe settled law.Did every one of Trump's picks for SCOTUS deny they wid interfere wiff Roe V's Wade?
.Yes - they lied but isn't that what conservatives do?
Who was unsuspecting?
Those USSC justices aren't even judges. They are rightwing activist enablers who wish implement their own version of social values on the rest of society. America's highest judicial institution has become a glorified kangaroo court where outcomes are already pre determined. What's the point of having a supreme Court? May as well get a rubber stamping machine instead.
So consisting Canada literally has the same politcal landscape surrounding abortion do you feel the same way about your country?
Because any province or county or however your country is set up could vote to ban abortion and your federal government would allow it.
Where do get this rant from? Funny how if Roe had codified into law you wouldnt be throwing a fit about left wing extremists running America. But when the SCOTUS makes a decision you dont like that makes THEM extremists?
Joe what if you are the extremist here? Because the only thing over turning Roe has done has turned the decisions back over to the states for the PEOPLE to decide. Explain how allowing the people to decide the laws and regulations is the SCOTUS "implementing their own version" of anything? They literally just turned it over to the people. That's the OPPOSITE of inplementing their own values.
You are literally mad that the people now get to decide and we dont have the SCOTUS forcing values. Do you understand Roe was literally forcing left wing values?
But Canada doesn't criminalize doctors who perform abortions either.
US states like Texas are going off the deep end by refusing to compromise on the issue. Abortion is not a zero sum game or black and white issue.
What this criminalization of abortion will do in some states is to create a massive shortage of qualified obstetricians. Either they'll quit or move to a blue state or choose a new specialization or just refuse to practice in red states like Texas.
The ones who will be hardest hit are the poorer red states. Qualified specialit's won't want the hassle of having their credentials questioned. Ie the case of miscarriages. Since the state has ruled abortions illegal now they'll investigate whether it was a miscarriage or an abortion. Also they can be snitched and spied upon.
What qualified professional would want to put up with that? So you may end up with a situation where expectant mothers in red states will have to travel to a blue state just to get a check up because there are no obgyn's in their state. Never mind an abortion just routine procedures.
They could Joe if people voted on it and wanted it.
And Joe stop with the medical misinformation.
The point is that the SCOTUS literally just allowed the matter to be decided by the states. There was nothing activisty there. This is literally how out government works.
You have been having a tizzy and literally claiming that the SCOTUS should always cater to the left or there is no point in having one. That they are forcing something somehow when in reality....they stop forcing the abortion issue and now the people can decide.
That's democracy is it not?
You are willing to repeat propaganda that anti abortion is some male movement to control women(its not.....that's actually the opposite) that pro lifers offer nothing (another falsehood) and the usual lazy smears.
Perhaps now the discussion can be more rooted in the facts and truth surrounding this issue.
No clue where you get the miscarriage thing from but I'm sure the etopic thing will be mixed in. Miscarriages and etopics have never ever been part of elective abortion and these are all entirely separate. They are not the same.
Elective abortion are done in free standing clinics by abortionists who have no hospital admission priviledges. These are not done in hospitals, not offered by OBs, are not a normal "healthcare" service. There is not going to be investigations done on women who miscarry. Anywhere. That's not how this works. That is activist fear mongering.
You guys never ever actually listen. You run with your biases on this.
What about other banned medical procedures? Do these same standards apply to those?
The American Supreme Court didn't ban abortion, but that is how too many ignorant people are spinning it.
Certain states are even in cases of rape and incest like Texas and Oklahoma.
How would feel @Fashionista if your daughter was raped impregnated against her will thru no fAult of her own and the forced to give birth to that child?