Left wing racism failing as always.

[Shen Li]

So, here we have a professor at UCLA who got put on unpaid administrative leave pending his firing because he refused to give black students higher grads than they had earned. After the media got ahold of this story the university reversed itself but the professor is still, rightly, suing to block such racist policies in the future.



This has been a self perpetuating downward racist spiral with left wingers. They always claim blacks can't be expect to do as well as everyone else and so we need to lower standards just for them. This is the racism of the left as always.

I wouldnt wanna be the recipient of preferential treatment like affirmative action because then a person becomes a target for abuse & their credentials questioned. I met Blacks in the States who felt people treated them less because they were admitted into University with affirmative action.

I'm not opposed to affirmative action tho because sometimes it makes sense. Ie - still need a doctor/dentist to practice in poor ghettos or native reservations ow no one would go there. And the guv ends up spending millions to fly some city doctor into these places to serve the inhabitants. So they have to give applicants from the communities a leg up so they'll at least have a local doctor to serve the people there.

But if a person is gonna get ahead with affirmative action then they ought to make working in poor disdvantagef communitis mandatory for at least 10 years than being able to set up shop in Beverley Hills.

A lot of black people do feel patronized. As they should because that's exactly what it is.

They are treated as less because they left VIEWS them as less.

And those of us who DONT view them as less are called racists because we stand that black people are every bit as capable as any other human being. They dont need to be babied. This attitude towards black people is the only racism in this country. Rando white racists are always going to exist.....but they have no power or influence and these white racist dems/progs shouldnt have any either. They are dragging everyone backwards.

As Black Americans should. White libtards have a very narrow belittling attitude towards all visible minorities. Their hostility towards us really rears it's ugly head when we don't conform to their racist expectations. They really hate independent thinking minorities.

 

[The Prowler]

What i did meet when I was in the States were a lot of young men

Knew it.

FYI, you're 7X more likely than most countries to meet a person who has been to prison in the United States @The Prowler.

I'm not making it up.

Do a Google search on 'prison population by country'and you'll find out yourself, ya dummy.

How many blacks are in Iceland?

That is a great point.

 

[Joe]

@Joe this is what you get with affirmative action hires who are picked to be partisan hacks but who really don't care about the constitution.

But Oerdin, what if there aren't enough physicians, dentists or nurses in some regions of Canada or the United States because highly trained doctors don't want to live in those places?

a lot of communities just don't have a doctor. never mind a specialist, there's just no General practitioners available. I think the same is true of poorer regions of Canada like the Atlantic region, etc.

and either they have to fly in Doctors, or the patients have to fly down to the Big City to see one.

Where I live, there's a Northern University where I believe they have a medical school.

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I think they'll bend a bit on the admission requirments if the applicant is from there and is willing to stay because they don't have enough doctors in the North. And these are mostly White students.

I kinda get your point, that if a person is given so leeway on the grades, then the government should be able to mandate where they practice after graduation.

If there is affirmative action, then it ought not be a free pass/ride but obligates its recipients to pay their dues and address the purpose for which it was really intended.

But race alone shouldn't be a criteria.

You might even have a black person who is from a wealthy black family but then why should they get affirmative action if their parents are doctors foreinstance?

 

[Oerdin]

 

[Dove]

@Joe this is what you get with affirmative action hires who are picked to be partisan hacks but who really don't care about the constitution.

But Oerdin, what if there aren't enough physicians, dentists or nurses in some regions of Canada or the United States because highly trained doctors don't want to live in those places?

a lot of communities just don't have a doctor. never mind a specialist, there's just no General practitioners available. I think the same is true of poorer regions of Canada like the Atlantic region, etc.

and either they have to fly in Doctors, or the patients have to fly down to the Big City to see one.

Where I live, there's a Northern University where I believe they have a medical school.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

I think they'll bend a bit on the admission requirments if the applicant is from there and is willing to stay because they don't have enough doctors in the North. And these are mostly White students.

I kinda get your point, that if a person is given so leeway on the grades, then the government should be able to mandate where they practice after graduation.

If there is affirmative action, then it ought not be a free pass/ride but obligates its recipients to pay their dues and address the purpose for which it was really intended.

But race alone shouldn't be a criteria.

You might even have a black person who is from a wealthy black family but then why should they get affirmative action if their parents are doctors foreinstance?

I know A LOT of doctors and nurses who commute to inner city hospitals and practices to work.

Where do you get this idea? That inner cities dont have enough medical staff?

 

[Joe]

@Joe this is what you get with affirmative action hires who are picked to be partisan hacks but who really don't care about the constitution.

But Oerdin, what if there aren't enough physicians, dentists or nurses in some regions of Canada or the United States because highly trained doctors don't want to live in those places?

a lot of communities just don't have a doctor. never mind a specialist, there's just no General practitioners available. I think the same is true of poorer regions of Canada like the Atlantic region, etc.

and either they have to fly in Doctors, or the patients have to fly down to the Big City to see one.

Where I live, there's a Northern University where I believe they have a medical school.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

I think they'll bend a bit on the admission requirments if the applicant is from there and is willing to stay because they don't have enough doctors in the North. And these are mostly White students.

I kinda get your point, that if a person is given so leeway on the grades, then the government should be able to mandate where they practice after graduation.

If there is affirmative action, then it ought not be a free pass/ride but obligates its recipients to pay their dues and address the purpose for which it was really intended.

But race alone shouldn't be a criteria.

You might even have a black person who is from a wealthy black family but then why should they get affirmative action if their parents are doctors foreinstance?

I know A LOT of doctors and nurses who commute to inner city hospitals and practices to work.

Where do you get this idea? That inner cities dont have enough medical staff?

Well the remote or poorer regions of both Canada and the USA don't have enough physicians nurses or dentists who want to relocate and make a commitment to stay in those places. So I can see how affirmative actions could play a role in distributing medical professionals where they are needed. And that wouldn't necessarily be based on race.

 

[Joe]

 

[The Prowler]

People who did not do well enough in high school to be admitted into university will not do well in university.

If they want to provide financial assistance to people who cannot afford tuition in exchange for an agreement to practice medicine in a particular area, then take the most academically qualified. Not based on race.

Another option is to pay more.

It is hard to believe that all the SJW doctors are not willing to make the sacrifice and go to the remote areas.

 

[Oerdin]

White liberals are racist.

 

[Dove]

@Joe this is what you get with affirmative action hires who are picked to be partisan hacks but who really don't care about the constitution.

But Oerdin, what if there aren't enough physicians, dentists or nurses in some regions of Canada or the United States because highly trained doctors don't want to live in those places?

a lot of communities just don't have a doctor. never mind a specialist, there's just no General practitioners available. I think the same is true of poorer regions of Canada like the Atlantic region, etc.

and either they have to fly in Doctors, or the patients have to fly down to the Big City to see one.

Where I live, there's a Northern University where I believe they have a medical school.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

I think they'll bend a bit on the admission requirments if the applicant is from there and is willing to stay because they don't have enough doctors in the North. And these are mostly White students.

I kinda get your point, that if a person is given so leeway on the grades, then the government should be able to mandate where they practice after graduation.

If there is affirmative action, then it ought not be a free pass/ride but obligates its recipients to pay their dues and address the purpose for which it was really intended.

But race alone shouldn't be a criteria.

You might even have a black person who is from a wealthy black family but then why should they get affirmative action if their parents are doctors foreinstance?

I know A LOT of doctors and nurses who commute to inner city hospitals and practices to work.

Where do you get this idea? That inner cities dont have enough medical staff?

Well the remote or poorer regions of both Canada and the USA don't have enough physicians nurses or dentists who want to relocate and make a commitment to stay in those places. So I can see how affirmative actions could play a role in distributing medical professionals where they are needed. And that wouldn't necessarily be based on race.

That's not true at all though. At least not in the US.

It may be that in rural areas they isnt a lot of medical staff.... but those are small rural communities.

Affirmative action is unessesary in medicine and it wouldnt be a good thing at all. We have A LOT of black nurses and LPNs. And CNAs. Techs. Et.

Black people who chose to work hard for med school do very well.....there is no reason to ruin the medical feild with poorly educated/trained doctors who got it easy due to color. Ben Carson didnt need that.

 

[Joe]

@Joe this is what you get with affirmative action hires who are picked to be partisan hacks but who really don't care about the constitution.

But Oerdin, what if there aren't enough physicians, dentists or nurses in some regions of Canada or the United States because highly trained doctors don't want to live in those places?

a lot of communities just don't have a doctor. never mind a specialist, there's just no General practitioners available. I think the same is true of poorer regions of Canada like the Atlantic region, etc.

and either they have to fly in Doctors, or the patients have to fly down to the Big City to see one.

Where I live, there's a Northern University where I believe they have a medical school.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

I think they'll bend a bit on the admission requirments if the applicant is from there and is willing to stay because they don't have enough doctors in the North. And these are mostly White students.

I kinda get your point, that if a person is given so leeway on the grades, then the government should be able to mandate where they practice after graduation.

If there is affirmative action, then it ought not be a free pass/ride but obligates its recipients to pay their dues and address the purpose for which it was really intended.

But race alone shouldn't be a criteria.

You might even have a black person who is from a wealthy black family but then why should they get affirmative action if their parents are doctors foreinstance?

I know A LOT of doctors and nurses who commute to inner city hospitals and practices to work.

Where do you get this idea? That inner cities dont have enough medical staff?

Well the remote or poorer regions of both Canada and the USA don't have enough physicians nurses or dentists who want to relocate and make a commitment to stay in those places. So I can see how affirmative actions could play a role in distributing medical professionals where they are needed. And that wouldn't necessarily be based on race.

That's not true at all though. At least not in the US.

It may be that in rural areas they isnt a lot of medical staff.... but those are small rural communities.

Affirmative action is unessesary in medicine and it wouldnt be a good thing at all. We have A LOT of black nurses and LPNs. And CNAs. Techs. Et.

Black people who chose to work hard for med school do very well.....there is no reason to ruin the medical feild with poorly educated/trained doctors who got it easy due to color. Ben Carson didnt need that.

Regardless of I think there is still room for affirmative action IF it addresses shortages of medical staff in underserved. areas of Canada & the United States. If someone is willing to locate there & and make a long term commitment to serve the people of poorer areas or districts I think they should be given some flexibility on grades/admission criteria. Ie - places like North Alaska/Canada or Appalachia.

I think a major reason there is such a disparity between rural regions & cities is they are so concerned about attracting an elite group of students who usually come from upper income backgrounds & of course they don't wanna work in the poorer or more isolated regions. And that's exactly what we get - too many doctors in the cities & hardly any in the countryside.




You're always harping on about race but what say you about Doctor shortages in poorer areas? What do you have to say about that?

I think affirmative action could work but it would also allow governments to mandate those who select that option to work where there are shortages & not some posh cosmetic surgery clinic in Beverley Hills CA.

In other words, affirmative action applicants would have to pay their dues & it wouldn't be a free ride. Somewhat similar in concept ROTC training at US Universities.

 

[Dove]

Well I'm telling you there isnt a doctor shortage in cities. In fact you usually make more when you work in cities.

I really dont know where you are getting this. We have shortages now but it's because of medical staff being fired over the vaccine.

 

[Joe]

Well I'm telling you there isnt a doctor shortage in cities. In fact you usually make more when you work in cities.

I really dont know where you are getting this. We have shortages now but it's because of medical staff being fired over the vaccine.

Well again you dodge the issue entirely.

What about doctor shortages in poor rural areas? How do you address that issue?

How do they get enough doctors for those regions?

 

[The Prowler]

"The next closet doctor is 20 miles away."

So a 25 minute car ride away. Hardly a "remote area" Joe.

I think affirmative action could work but it would also allow governments to mandate those who select that option to work where there are shortages & not some posh cosmetic surgery clinic in Beverley Hills CA.

In other words, affirmative action applicants would have to pay their dues & it wouldn't be a free ride. Somewhat similar in concept ROTC training at US Universities.

I saw you say the same shit over a week ago. Almost word-for-word.

Joe, what in your mind is "affirmative action"? Can you define/describe it in your own words?

 

[Dove]

Well I'm telling you there isnt a doctor shortage in cities. In fact you usually make more when you work in cities.

I really dont know where you are getting this. We have shortages now but it's because of medical staff being fired over the vaccine.

Well again you dodge the issue entirely.

What about doctor shortages in poor rural areas? How do you address that issue?

How do they get enough doctors for those regions?

No I'm asking you to SHOW me where you are getting this idea of shortages (because of rural poorer areas.... not due to firings over the vaccine)

 

[Joe]

Well I'm telling you there isnt a doctor shortage in cities. In fact you usually make more when you work in cities.

I really dont know where you are getting this. We have shortages now but it's because of medical staff being fired over the vaccine.

Well again you dodge the issue entirely.

What about doctor shortages in poor rural areas? How do you address that issue?

How do they get enough doctors for those regions?

No I'm asking you to SHOW me where you are getting this idea of shortages (because of rural poorer areas.... not due to firings over the vaccine)

Well - in my own country I drove health professionals to the airport because the Government had to fly them into remote areas because they lacked physicians and nurses. Ie Northern Canada

Likewise I picked people up from the airport to see a doctor in the big city because their towns didn't have a physician. They'd come in from places like the Arctic because again - they didn't have any nurses or doctors where they lived.

I'm sure the situation is similar in the US where cities get the Lions share of physicians & nurses while the rural areas are left with the cupboard bare.

 

[Dove]

I'm sure some towns have that issue but generally small town docs are the best. Imo.

 

[The Prowler]

Well I'm telling you there isnt a doctor shortage in cities. In fact you usually make more when you work in cities.

I really dont know where you are getting this. We have shortages now but it's because of medical staff being fired over the vaccine.

Well again you dodge the issue entirely.

What about doctor shortages in poor rural areas? How do you address that issue?

How do they get enough doctors for those regions?

No I'm asking you to SHOW me where you are getting this idea of shortages (because of rural poorer areas.... not due to firings over the vaccine)

Well - in my own country I drove health professionals to the airport because the Government had to fly them into remote areas because they lacked physicians and nurses. Ie Northern Canada

Likewise I picked people up from the airport to see a doctor in the big city because their towns didn't have a physician. They'd come in from places like the Arctic because again - they didn't have any nurses or doctors where they lived.

I'm sure the situation is similar in the US where cities get the Lions share of physicians & nurses while the rural areas are left with the cupboard bare.

Joe, what in your mind is "affirmative action"? Can you define/describe it in your own words?

 

[The Prowler]

I'm sure the situation is similar in the US where cities get the Lions share of physicians & nurses while the rural areas are left with the cupboard bare.

They do not have remote areas like that in the USA, Joe. Other than maybe the most remote area of Alaska.

You are comparing places that require a floatplane to get to, to places in the USA that are always within an hour's car drive to a town with a doctor.

 

[Joe]

I'm sure the situation is similar in the US where cities get the Lions share of physicians & nurses while the rural areas are left with the cupboard bare.

They do not have remote areas like that in the USA, Joe. Other than maybe the most remote area of Alaska.

You are comparing places that require a floatplane to get to, to places in the USA that are always within an hour's car drive to a town with a doctor.

...and yet there still exist physician shortages in small towns & rural areas.

And if you don't believe me then watch this video from the University of California Davis School of Medicine:




You may not consider me as a credible source but they certainly are.

 

[Lokmar]

When my son in law graduated his residency program, he could have went just about anywhere. He chose Florida because of low taxes even though he would make less money. It turned out to be a great choice.

 

[Joe]

When my son in law graduated his residency program, he could have went just about anywhere. He chose Florida because of low taxes even though he would make less money. It turned out to be a great choice.

And that's just it.

Doctors usually don't want to practice medicine in less appealing, poorer & remote regions.

 

[Lokmar]

When my son in law graduated his residency program, he could have went just about anywhere. He chose Florida because of low taxes even though he would make less money. It turned out to be a great choice.

And that's just it.

Doctors usually don't want to practice medicine in less appealing, poorer & remote regions.

Dumbass, he made his choice based on economic reasons. The gubmints could very easily give tax breaks to doctors who locate in rural areas. But then the lunatic base would cry.

 

[Joe]

When my son in law graduated his residency program, he could have went just about anywhere. He chose Florida because of low taxes even though he would make less money. It turned out to be a great choice.

And that's just it.

Doctors usually don't want to practice medicine in less appealing, poorer & remote regions.

Dumbass, he made his choice based on economic reasons. The gubmints could very easily give tax breaks to doctors who locate in rural areas. But then the lunatic base would cry.

Hey I'm not blaming him.

If he spent that much time money & likely drove himself into debt why wouldn't he feel entitled to go where h3 felt like.

 

[Lokmar]

When my son in law graduated his residency program, he could have went just about anywhere. He chose Florida because of low taxes even though he would make less money. It turned out to be a great choice.

And that's just it.

Doctors usually don't want to practice medicine in less appealing, poorer & remote regions.

Dumbass, he made his choice based on economic reasons. The gubmints could very easily give tax breaks to doctors who locate in rural areas. But then the lunatic base would cry.

Hey I'm not blaming him.

If he spent that much time money & likely drove himself into debt why wouldn't he feel entitled to go where h3 felt like.

I didnt say you were. I'm simply explaining that the entire problem is government based ITFP.

 

[Oerdin]

The lies and delusions are completely fucking out of control. It is peek cringe with the lying racist leftists. Just look at the delusional fantasies these racist lunatics have!

 

[Lokmar]

The lies and delusions are completely fucking out of control. It is peek cringe with the lying racist leftists. Just look at the delusional fantasies these racist lunatics have!

In real life, them niggers woulda raped that bitch to death. The nigger in the wheelchair woulda ate her.

 

[The Prowler]

I'm sure the situation is similar in the US where cities get the Lions share of physicians & nurses while the rural areas are left with the cupboard bare.

They do not have remote areas like that in the USA, Joe. Other than maybe the most remote area of Alaska.

You are comparing places that require a floatplane to get to, to places in the USA that are always within an hour's car drive to a town with a doctor.

...and yet there still exist physician shortages in small towns & rural areas.

And if you don't believe me then watch this video from the University of California Davis School of Medicine:




You may not consider me as a credible source but they certainly are.

They did not say shit about a shortage.

 

[The Prowler]

feel entitled to go where

Joe, what in your mind is "affirmative action"? Can you define/describe it in your own words?

 

[Joe]

feel entitled to go where

Joe, what in your mind is "affirmative action"? Can you define/describe it in your own words?

Traditionally in the United States, it has been used by what its advocates feel addresses racial or gender inequalities due to systematic discrimination and socio economic inequalities.

However I don't necessarily agree with that approach and I feel that there are other factors which should be considered as well. Race might be one factor, but it should not be the only one when considering applicants for professional schools such as nursing or medicine. Skill or regional shortages should be factored in as well.

I don't agree that if a person benefits from affirmative action, that they should be able to leapfrog over others without first paying their dues or addressing a genuine need. eg - someone gets accepted into a medical school due to affirmative action, but then pursues a career in cosmetic surgery and lands a job in Beverley Hills performing nose jobs for the rich and famous. uh uh, that doesn't benefit anyone or address skill shortages in disadvantaged regions. And if that's the outcome, then the initiative of affirmative action needs to be drastically overhauled.

But if someone gets accepted as a minority like a Native into med school due to affirmative action but makes a long term commitment to practice medicine on a reservation, then that fulfills an genuine need especially if others don't want to practice there. And it saves the government a lot of money because it cuts down on flying in Nurses and physicians from the city all the time.

Whether you agree with it or not, I believe there is already some form of affrimative action in Canada. And it even benefits Whites from remote regions whom the government favors in Medical school admissions because they simply want more physicians from remote regions who want to make a commitment to stay there. Who wouldn't cut a Northern resident some slack over someone from the city if the former made a commitment to practice there for their entire career?

That's just the way I see it. I did attend one of the medical school admissions seminars out of interest many years ago, and even back then the doctor said that they favor applicants if it addresses skill shortages in under served regions. Or if the person is Native and is willing to work on a reservation. So it has been going on for a long time whether you are aware of it or not.