What is happening to men in the Western world?

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It was context appropriate and it's not a political statement. Unless cultural marxism is now a political topic rather than a cultural one. It was a culture reference loosely "political"

But go ahead and pee in the middle of the discussion. BF will be along now to check your nappy.

Perhaps the discussion hit close to home.

It's because he cant address anything even slightly political without being snarky, insulting and bitter.

I don't know. It seemed like a way to lash out at the thread.
 

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Ffs.

It was context appropriate and it's not a political statement. Unless cultural marxism is now a political topic rather than a cultural one. It was a culture reference loosely "political"

But go ahead and pee in the middle of the discussion. BF will be along now to check your nappy.

Perhaps the discussion hit close to home.
I'm no Libertarian, sir, and I have no child support to pay.
 

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Ffs.

It was context appropriate and it's not a political statement. Unless cultural marxism is now a political topic rather than a cultural one. It was a culture reference loosely "political"

But go ahead and pee in the middle of the discussion. BF will be along now to check your nappy.
You are all discussing political orientation. Let's see - who's whinier(?) Libmen, conservatives, libertarians, BLM. etc etc.

....You're all busted. Busted on the Gen Dis board.

Civilly discussing it, as well.

Good thing you showed up just in time to shit on it!
3 days in Meltdown for you and your playmates.
 

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Ffs.

It was context appropriate and it's not a political statement. Unless cultural marxism is now a political topic rather than a cultural one. It was a culture reference loosely "political"

But go ahead and pee in the middle of the discussion. BF will be along now to check your nappy.

Perhaps the discussion hit close to home.

It's because he cant address anything even slightly political without being snarky, insulting and bitter.

I don't know. It seemed like a way to lash out at the thread.
I'm seeking consistency from @Bastard Factory.
I got 3 days in Meltdown for a much more defensible post.
 

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Ffs.

It was context appropriate and it's not a political statement. Unless cultural marxism is now a political topic rather than a cultural one. It was a culture reference loosely "political"

But go ahead and pee in the middle of the discussion. BF will be along now to check your nappy.

Perhaps the discussion hit close to home.

It's because he cant address anything even slightly political without being snarky, insulting and bitter.

I don't know. It seemed like a way to lash out at the thread.
I'm seeking consistency from @Bastard Factory.
I got 3 days in Meltdown for a much more defensible post.
Moved...
 

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Ffs.

It was context appropriate and it's not a political statement. Unless cultural marxism is now a political topic rather than a cultural one. It was a culture reference loosely "political"

But go ahead and pee in the middle of the discussion. BF will be along now to check your nappy.

Perhaps the discussion hit close to home.

It's because he cant address anything even slightly political without being snarky, insulting and bitter.

I don't know. It seemed like a way to lash out at the thread.
I'm seeking consistency from @Bastard Factory.
I got 3 days in Meltdown for a much more defensible post.
The best poasts are in meltdown anyway. Quit whinging.
 
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Ffs.

It was context appropriate and it's not a political statement. Unless cultural marxism is now a political topic rather than a cultural one. It was a culture reference loosely "political"

But go ahead and pee in the middle of the discussion. BF will be along now to check your nappy.

Perhaps the discussion hit close to home.
I'm no Libertarian, sir, and I have no child support to pay.

I believe you that no woman was interested in procreating with you.
 

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I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves. Those that couldn't meet those expectations often disappeared from their families, just walked away. Maybe it wasn't a good thing, but they didn't hang about whining, sniveling and feeling sorry for themselves if they had to provide support for their families.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?
You must have been alive in the 50s. The 60s started the removal of the scrotum.
Now the worst, weakest person to be is a white man as the chi-coms and rushins watch..and wait.

I guess you liked the world when women had fewer choices in life, men dominated (and still do), and minorities were at the "back of the bus".

As for the Chinese and Russians, yes, they're waiting. I do believe that, but change is coming to them as well, though at a snail's pace. The Soviet Union seemed invincible, until is wasn't.

I would love a patriarchy if only men were the stoic, trustworthy defenders I believe God made them to be.

In that sort of order, women wouldnt have fewer choices. Just much less the need to make hard ones.

My high view of men causes me to be even more revolted by the simpy shitty ones.

You believe patriarchy is the natural order of things? I don't. Women are equally intellectually capable as men.

Let me try to explain because I do believe it was the intended natural order.

But I also absolutely believe women ARE equal. I dont see a lack of equality here. Men and women are equal. But we have our different characteristics and if people were not so flawed this combo would make a very solid society.
 

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Ffs.

It was context appropriate and it's not a political statement. Unless cultural marxism is now a political topic rather than a cultural one. It was a culture reference loosely "political"

But go ahead and pee in the middle of the discussion. BF will be along now to check your nappy.
You are all discussing political orientation. Let's see - who's whinier(?) Libmen, conservatives, libertarians, BLM. etc etc.

....You're all busted. Busted on the Gen Dis board.

Civilly discussing it, as well.

Good thing you showed up just in time to shit on it!
3 days in Meltdown for you and your playmates.

You should grow up.

Discussing a cultural issue civilly is not the same as you just spewing insults nonstop at "trumptards".

You dont discuss anything. You just parrot the same insults over and over.
 

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Ffs.

It was context appropriate and it's not a political statement. Unless cultural marxism is now a political topic rather than a cultural one. It was a culture reference loosely "political"

But go ahead and pee in the middle of the discussion. BF will be along now to check your nappy.
You are all discussing political orientation. Let's see - who's whinier(?) Libmen, conservatives, libertarians, BLM. etc etc.

....You're all busted. Busted on the Gen Dis board.

Civilly discussing it, as well.

Good thing you showed up just in time to shit on it!
3 days in Meltdown for you and your playmates.

You should grow up.

Discussing a cultural issue civilly is not the same as you just spewing insults nonstop at "trumptards".

You dont discuss anything. You just parrot the same insults over and over.
Oh nonsense. Are you one of these people who say always and never all of the time?
 
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I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves. Those that couldn't meet those expectations often disappeared from their families, just walked away. Maybe it wasn't a good thing, but they didn't hang about whining, sniveling and feeling sorry for themselves if they had to provide support for their families.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?
You must have been alive in the 50s. The 60s started the removal of the scrotum.
Now the worst, weakest person to be is a white man as the chi-coms and rushins watch..and wait.

I guess you liked the world when women had fewer choices in life, men dominated (and still do), and minorities were at the "back of the bus".

As for the Chinese and Russians, yes, they're waiting. I do believe that, but change is coming to them as well, though at a snail's pace. The Soviet Union seemed invincible, until is wasn't.

I would love a patriarchy if only men were the stoic, trustworthy defenders I believe God made them to be.

In that sort of order, women wouldnt have fewer choices. Just much less the need to make hard ones.

My high view of men causes me to be even more revolted by the simpy shitty ones.

You believe patriarchy is the natural order of things? I don't. Women are equally intellectually capable as men.

Let me try to explain because I do believe it was the intended natural order.

But I also absolutely believe women ARE equal. I dont see a lack of equality here. Men and women are equal. But we have our different characteristics and if people were not so flawed this combo would make a very solid society.

People have always been flawed. For example, in times of war, one of the most common atrocities is rape. It is as common as killing. I don't look at the world through rose-colored glasses. I'm guessing these are men that may not be rapists during times of peace and with their countrywomen.
 

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I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves. Those that couldn't meet those expectations often disappeared from their families, just walked away. Maybe it wasn't a good thing, but they didn't hang about whining, sniveling and feeling sorry for themselves if they had to provide support for their families.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?
You must have been alive in the 50s. The 60s started the removal of the scrotum.
Now the worst, weakest person to be is a white man as the chi-coms and rushins watch..and wait.

I guess you liked the world when women had fewer choices in life, men dominated (and still do), and minorities were at the "back of the bus".

As for the Chinese and Russians, yes, they're waiting. I do believe that, but change is coming to them as well, though at a snail's pace. The Soviet Union seemed invincible, until is wasn't.

I would love a patriarchy if only men were the stoic, trustworthy defenders I believe God made them to be.

In that sort of order, women wouldnt have fewer choices. Just much less the need to make hard ones.

My high view of men causes me to be even more revolted by the simpy shitty ones.

You believe patriarchy is the natural order of things? I don't. Women are equally intellectually capable as men.

Let me try to explain because I do believe it was the intended natural order.

But I also absolutely believe women ARE equal. I dont see a lack of equality here. Men and women are equal. But we have our different characteristics and if people were not so flawed this combo would make a very solid society.

People have always been flawed. For example, in times of war, one of the most common atrocities is rape. It is as common as killing. I don't look at the world through rose-colored glasses. I'm guessing these are men that may not be rapists during times of peace and with their countrywomen.

Well yeah. That's why I put that 'if" in there.

As it is, it would never work.
 
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I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves. Those that couldn't meet those expectations often disappeared from their families, just walked away. Maybe it wasn't a good thing, but they didn't hang about whining, sniveling and feeling sorry for themselves if they had to provide support for their families.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?
You must have been alive in the 50s. The 60s started the removal of the scrotum.
Now the worst, weakest person to be is a white man as the chi-coms and rushins watch..and wait.

I guess you liked the world when women had fewer choices in life, men dominated (and still do), and minorities were at the "back of the bus".

As for the Chinese and Russians, yes, they're waiting. I do believe that, but change is coming to them as well, though at a snail's pace. The Soviet Union seemed invincible, until is wasn't.

I would love a patriarchy if only men were the stoic, trustworthy defenders I believe God made them to be.

In that sort of order, women wouldnt have fewer choices. Just much less the need to make hard ones.

My high view of men causes me to be even more revolted by the simpy shitty ones.

You believe patriarchy is the natural order of things? I don't. Women are equally intellectually capable as men.

Let me try to explain because I do believe it was the intended natural order.

But I also absolutely believe women ARE equal. I dont see a lack of equality here. Men and women are equal. But we have our different characteristics and if people were not so flawed this combo would make a very solid society.

People have always been flawed. For example, in times of war, one of the most common atrocities is rape. It is as common as killing. I don't look at the world through rose-colored glasses. I'm guessing these are men that may not be rapists during times of peace and with their countrywomen.

Well yeah. That's why I put that 'if" in there.

As it is, it would never work.

Okay, we agree. Shouldn't you question your view that the patriarchy is a natural order in that case?
 

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Some of the men that whined the most about child support were moderate or conservative men. That's why I started this thread, because of the men posting as if they're victims.

Dear liar. Quote anyone saying what you claim. You can't because no one did.

You whined about the poor broke ass men that can't afford to pay child support. You know you did. Instead of saying he needs to do whatever possible to support the offspring he brought into this world. You're not a man. You're a weasel.

Hell, I don't have biological children but fully support two step children. I support them well and I hope you are able to do as well for your children as I do with my step children. Given your proclivities towards lying and poor reading comprehension though I have grave doubts about your abilities on that front.

Don't make assumptions about how I interact with those in my life. I haven't made any about yours. I've just said you're whining feeling sorry for men that may not deserve any sympathy.

Another lie. You made a personal attack above claiming what type of father I am when you don't know shit. I can only go on what you post her but the arrogant and clueless crap you wrote her shows you are a garbage person with a reading disability at best.
That is a telling post what sort of character you are... passive aggressive.

Ok, so someone outright lies about what you say but if you correct them and point out that they're lying liars who lie and that their claims are the exact opposite of what you said then... You are "passive aggressive".

I simply called it how it is by calling bull shit out when I see it. Never the less to keep everyone happy I will try to raise my points in a slightly more easy going and congenial fashion in the future.
 
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Some of the men that whined the most about child support were moderate or conservative men. That's why I started this thread, because of the men posting as if they're victims.

Dear liar. Quote anyone saying what you claim. You can't because no one did.

You whined about the poor broke ass men that can't afford to pay child support. You know you did. Instead of saying he needs to do whatever possible to support the offspring he brought into this world. You're not a man. You're a weasel.

Hell, I don't have biological children but fully support two step children. I support them well and I hope you are able to do as well for your children as I do with my step children. Given your proclivities towards lying and poor reading comprehension though I have grave doubts about your abilities on that front.

Don't make assumptions about how I interact with those in my life. I haven't made any about yours. I've just said you're whining feeling sorry for men that may not deserve any sympathy.

Another lie. You made a personal attack above claiming what type of father I am when you don't know shit. I can only go on what you post her but the arrogant and clueless crap you wrote her shows you are a garbage person with a reading disability at best.
That is a telling post what sort of character you are... passive aggressive.

Ok, so someone outright lies about what you say but if you correct them and point out that they're lying liars who lie and that their claims are the exact opposite of what you said then... You are "passive aggressive".

I simply called it how it is by calling bull shit out when I see it. That is called being a stand up guy and a good person.

Shut up, nerd.
 

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Ffs.

It was context appropriate and it's not a political statement. Unless cultural marxism is now a political topic rather than a cultural one. It was a culture reference loosely "political"

But go ahead and pee in the middle of the discussion. BF will be along now to check your nappy.

Perhaps the discussion hit close to home.
I'm no Libertarian, sir, and I have no child support to pay.

I believe you that no woman was interested in procreating with you.
So what's this thread really about, Oak? Did the man you abandoned stop paying child support?
..and now you have to go it alone w/o his financial aid.
 

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Ffs.

It was context appropriate and it's not a political statement. Unless cultural marxism is now a political topic rather than a cultural one. It was a culture reference loosely "political"

But go ahead and pee in the middle of the discussion. BF will be along now to check your nappy.

Perhaps the discussion hit close to home.
I'm no Libertarian, sir, and I have no child support to pay.

I believe you that no woman was interested in procreating with you.
So what's this thread really about, Oak? Did the man you abandoned stop paying child support?
..and now you have to go it alone w/o his financial aid.
She probably left him to spend moar time with the internets.
 

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I don’t know how or where being a REAL man who raises his children both financially and morally has turned into left v right.

I know of at least 4 men who I grew up with who were trapped by women into marriage. Yes, I said TRAPPED. They have all referred to it as some sort of miscommunication and I’m not sure how that happens. Women are either on birth control or they aren’t.

These men are all dedicated fathers. They married these women as soon as they found out they were pregnant and are now ALL divorced.

I don’t think unplanned pregnancies are easy for men or women and clearly a child conceived out of wedlock is going to present numerous issues for both parents, whether they choose to face their issues head on or run like cowards. These men I have referred to were all raised Catholic and have more morals than most when it comes to traditional family values.

Some people are selfish and only think of themselves and how a baby will negatively impact their lives. This is why I’m pro-life. I believe every child should benefit from a 2 parent LOVING home.
 

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I don’t know how or where being a REAL man who raises his children both financially and morally has turned into left v right.

I know of at least 4 men who I grew up with who were trapped by women into marriage. Yes, I said TRAPPED. They have all referred to it as some sort of miscommunication and I’m not sure how that happens. Women are either on birth control or they aren’t.

These men are all dedicated fathers. They married these women as soon as they found out they were pregnant and are now ALL divorced.

I don’t think unplanned pregnancies are easy for men or women and clearly a child conceived out of wedlock is going to present numerous issues for both parents, whether they choose to face their issues head on or run like cowards. These men I have referred to were all raised Catholic and have more morals than most when it comes to traditional family values.

Some people are selfish and only think of themselves and how a baby will negatively impact their lives. This is why I’m pro-life. I believe every child should benefit from a 2 parent LOVING home.
If you truly believed all that you would be advising young women to be a little more chaste in their dealings with men. Especially when at an age where they are unable to care for a child. I mean, look at who young girls have as an idol? Cardi B? seriously?

Despite all the hysterics this new law is intended to make these young women think before engaging in activities which can result in untimely pregnancies. I say women exclusively in this context simply because they hold the keys when it comes to whether sex happens or not.

And.. for the record, what's wrong with being forward thinking and prudent and purchasing an at home pregnancy test within the 1st couple of weeks of knowing you had unprotected sex? They're like, what, a fucking dollar at Dollar Tree?
 

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I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves. Those that couldn't meet those expectations often disappeared from their families, just walked away. Maybe it wasn't a good thing, but they didn't hang about whining, sniveling and feeling sorry for themselves if they had to provide support for their families.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?
I'll tell you what happened.

The Mental disorder called liberalism which promotes the idea that masculinity is toxic, capitalism is rancid and conservative values are archaic
 

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I don’t know how or where being a REAL man who raises his children both financially and morally has turned into left v right.

I know of at least 4 men who I grew up with who were trapped by women into marriage. Yes, I said TRAPPED. They have all referred to it as some sort of miscommunication and I’m not sure how that happens. Women are either on birth control or they aren’t.

These men are all dedicated fathers. They married these women as soon as they found out they were pregnant and are now ALL divorced.

I don’t think unplanned pregnancies are easy for men or women and clearly a child conceived out of wedlock is going to present numerous issues for both parents, whether they choose to face their issues head on or run like cowards. These men I have referred to were all raised Catholic and have more morals than most when it comes to traditional family values.

Some people are selfish and only think of themselves and how a baby will negatively impact their lives. This is why I’m pro-life. I believe every child should benefit from a 2 parent LOVING home.
If you truly believed all that you would be advising young women to be a little more chaste in their dealings with men. Especially when at an age where they are unable to care for a child. I mean, look at who young girls have as an idol? Cardi B? seriously?

Despite all the hysterics this new law is intended to make these young women think before engaging in activities which can result in untimely pregnancies. I say women exclusively in this context simply because they hold the keys when it comes to whether sex happens or not.

And.. for the record, what's wrong with being forward thinking and prudent and purchasing an at home pregnancy test within the 1st couple of weeks of knowing you had unprotected sex? They're like, what, a fucking dollar at Dollar Tree?

Why teach girls to be responsible and prudent when you can teach them that being used by men is empowering and we should be sexual because women are sexual.....and help bring billions of dollars into the abortion industry?

They dont want to look at or solve any of the real issues. They want a cheap activism to boost their self image without having to get their hands dirty addressing the real issues or participating in an actual democracy and working together for the betterment of the country and human beings.

They've been bought and sold and wont see it.
 

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I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves. Those that couldn't meet those expectations often disappeared from their families, just walked away. Maybe it wasn't a good thing, but they didn't hang about whining, sniveling and feeling sorry for themselves if they had to provide support for their families.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

I think some of it is the stress of big families. I think people should seriously discuss the size of their families BEFORE they marry, like, "do you want children?"... Yes!... how many? ... oh, I want 6.... "No way. Two maximum"...

In the 1960s-80s, you could have a family of 4 or 5 children on a man's income alone. That went out the window and in today's climate, two incomes are needed just to survive.

I think women live in a precarious situation having too many kids....You need to think, where do I want to be 20 years from now? I knew when silly Angelina Jolle adopted all those kids her marriage wouldn't last.

There are plenty of factors why men piss off.... Root and Run...They are good at that.

You just have to deal with the hand you're dealt.

What can be done? Fuck all. My son's biological father owed me $15 a week for 18 years, altogether, I got $40.
 

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Serious question.

Out of the thousand or so male "peaceful protestors" who were rioting for 90 days straight in Portland how many of them had 9 to 5's to report to the next morning vs how many of them were living off government handouts ?
 

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Serious question.

Out of the thousand or so male "peaceful protestors" who were rioting for 90 days straight in Portland how many of them had 9 to 5's to report to the next morning vs how many of them were living off government handouts ?
Good news Biggie, my wife just told me today is the end of extended unemployment payouts!!!!
 

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I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves. Those that couldn't meet those expectations often disappeared from their families, just walked away. Maybe it wasn't a good thing, but they didn't hang about whining, sniveling and feeling sorry for themselves if they had to provide support for their families.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

Mostly woke-ism. Also you're a moron if you think anyone here has whined about supporting their families. I have seen you do this multiple times already where you ignore what people actually said and instead build up a fantasy of what you wish they said or wrongly imagine they might have said.

That is not a good trait.

You complain about men having to spend up to 2/3rds, uncited of course, of their income on their children. That is in the other thread about the man paying support with pennies.

I mentioned that I personally know one man who does pay 2/3rds (between child support and spousal support) forcing him into poverty and homelessness even though it was his former wife who cheated on him while he was deployed. I also pointed out that his ex didn't spend the money on his kids and instead helped her boyfriend and their two kids with it. Oh, and I pointed out that she didn't marry her current boyfriend despite them having two children together. Yes, I do believe allowing the guy to mai tain basic shelter would be a better policy as it would improve his ability to provide for his family, but, you were clearly to stupid to understand even something as basic as that.

You have very poor reading comprehension then lie and pretend people said something they never did. Lying about other people's positions is a sign of low character and low intelligence.

Then this man should go and get his children and raise them. Isn't there shared custody where he lives?
 

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Serious question.

Out of the thousand or so male "peaceful protestors" who were rioting for 90 days straight in Portland how many of them had 9 to 5's to report to the next morning vs how many of them were living off government handouts ?
Good news Biggie, my wife just told me today is the end of extended unemployment payouts!!!!
I hope every last one of those bums in Portland starves to death under whatever rock they crawl in and out of
 

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Not viewing human beings as disposable property and not viewing sex as some basic bodily function with a ton of marketing potential would be a good start.

Expecting better from men rather than a "boys will be boys" mentality would help.

We literally reward and incentivize shitty behaviour. To the point where we call violent riots "uprisings". Fuck that.