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The only HOV lane to bankrupting social security thus making it unavailable to tax paying citizens is to allow millions of freeloaders drain it dry.

I am sorry you are too stupid to understand that. Typical of lefttards.
 
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Day 4 and the crying continues
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You fool. We love the US and are horrified by WHAT IS YET TO HAPPEN. Of course we're still crying. The fubar has only just begun. You're going to be crying, too, soon enough, but you will be blaming some imaginary boogie man for your woes, all of which will be caused by Trump policies. Imbeciles, each and every one of you.
 

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You fool. We love the US and are horrified by WHAT IS YET TO HAPPEN.
Its too late @LotusBud

American voters have let the Devil get in



Its called MAGA & it is Evil

And it is Donald Trump who must tske full credit.

The party that freed the slaves is about to enslave America.

Fascism has arrived in the USA

It owns ya
 
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The only HOV lane to bankrupting social security thus making it unavailable to tax paying citizens is to allow millions of freeloaders drain it dry.

I am sorry you are too stupid to understand that. Typical of lefttards.
Who are the millions of freeloaders you see in your fevered hysteria, exactly?
 

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The bill, introduced by Reps. Abigail Spanberger, D-Va., and Garret Graves, R-La., would have eliminated Social Security provisions that reduce benefits for retirees who've received a public pension working in a job not covered by the government program, and reduce benefits
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who collect a government pension.

So they were looking to eliminate measures that effect government pensioners the elimination raising costs to taxpayers…….

Not cutting SS…..rather preventing higher costs…….no net loss, but it’s got your attention Bedwetters
 

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The only HOV lane to bankrupting social security thus making it unavailable to tax paying citizens is to allow millions of freeloaders drain it dry.

I am sorry you are too stupid to understand that. Typical of lefttards.
I’m stupid enough to know you’ll be broke in a year. If I were you, I’d buy some gold and silver. Wages will drop and with tariffs and a diminished work force, raising Prices on everything. Most are on their way to a good fucking. You’ve been duped Amigo.
 

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LOL ……Bedwetters are so easily fooled……..there is a reason the pensioners in question have their benefits limited……they did not pay into the system…….now Dimicrats want to give them something they did not contribute to…..

Silly Bedwetters….told what to think and believe by the Lying MSM again…..

“An employer who is not required to withhold or deduct Social Security taxes will not withhold FICA or OASDI taxes from your earnings. If you worked for:

who did not withhold Social Security taxes, any pension or annuity you receive from that employer is based on what we call "non-covered earnings." This means that those earnings are not "covered" under the Social Security Act.”

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The bill, introduced by Reps. Abigail Spanberger, D-Va., and Garret Graves, R-La., would have eliminated Social Security provisions that reduce benefits for retirees who've received a public pension working in a job not covered by the government program, and reduce benefits
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who collect a government pension.

So they were looking to eliminate measures that effect government pensioners the elimination raising costs to taxpayers…….

Not cutting SS…..rather preventing higher costs…….no net loss, but it’s got your attention Bedwetters
Yeah. You don't understand the law. It is a reduction in benefits to people who are NOT receiving a federal pension. MY career as a professor in a state university falls under that law. They reduce my EARNED social security as a result. You do not know what you're talking about. CUTTING SOCIAL SECURITY -- 100%
 

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Yeah. You don't understand the law. It is a reduction in benefits to people who are NOT receiving a federal pension. MY career as a professor in a state university falls under that law. They reduce my EARNED social security as a result. You do not know what you're talking about. CUTTING SOCIAL SECURITY -- 100%
You should read this out loud……perhaps it might help you understand what is being written here

“would have eliminated Social Security provisions that reduce benefits for retirees who've received a public pension working in a job not covered by the government program”

The benefits in question are already reduced due to the nature of the pension the pensioner receives ……this bill would increase benefits over what they are now, at an increased cost to others. No decrease due to the law not going forward.

Were you aware of the conditions that would affect your receipts as you worked as a professor? Will this be a question you will answer?……..

Do you now expect an increased benefit at the expense of others…..the bill would have added

From the original article……

”The Congressional Budget Office estimated that the bill would
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over ten years.”

Cost additional money…….by increasing benefits……..rather than saving money by cutting benefits.

Why do you feel you are entitled to an increase?
 

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Who are the millions of freeloaders you see in your fevered hysteria, exactly?
The proposed law only affects government pensioners…….if you paid into SS the conditions do not pertain to you.

The fact you cannot understand what is written in the article speaks volumes about the state of the higher education crisis in the nation……you state you were a professor, but can’t comprehend what is stated in the law, not the article.
 

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Actually they’re trump supporters who don’t realize their going to get royally screwed….. :LOL3:
Let’s suppose the every single pensioner the article suggested (2.8M) was going to be affected was a Trump supporter. That would mean that if everyone that supported Trump was part of the group it would amount to less than 4% of those folks that supported Trump.

Now considering most of the 2.8M fall under the class that our TDS deranged forum-mate @LotusBud Belongs to………..public sector workers that fall under a group with considerations to their pension that the proposed law sought to eliminate…….it seems that supporting Trump will have little effect to most SS recipients.

I goes without saying that the majority of those affected will be Teachers, Social Workers and others that are paid with funds collected via taxes.

More information……..A search did not reveal who sponsored the changes to either law that affected SS.

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You should read this out loud……perhaps it might help you understand what is being written here

“would have eliminated Social Security provisions that reduce benefits for retirees who've received a public pension working in a job not covered by the government program”

The benefits in question are already reduced due to the nature of the pension the pensioner receives ……this bill would increase benefits over what they are now, at an increased cost to others. No decrease due to the law not going forward.

Were you aware of the conditions that would affect your receipts as you worked as a professor? Will this be a question you will answer?……..

Do you now expect an increased benefit at the expense of others…..the bill would have added

From the original article……

”The Congressional Budget Office estimated that the bill would
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over ten years.”

Cost additional money…….by increasing benefits……..rather than saving money by cutting benefits.

Why do you feel you are entitled to an increase?
Oh, fuck off. Getting the benefits that I earned wouldn't be at the expense of others any more than anyone's SS is at the expense of others. CONs took away the benefits I earned, and there was a bipartisan effort to reinstate them. Just go stick a hot poker up your gaping asshole.

You seem to not understand that people can have earnings that ARE covered by SS in addition to earnings that are not.
 
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The proposed law only affects government pensioners…….if you paid into SS the conditions do not pertain to you.

The fact you cannot understand what is written in the article speaks volumes about the state of the higher education crisis in the nation……you state you were a professor, but can’t comprehend what is stated in the law, not the article.
False. Honey, I understand how this works. Don't argue with me. You're just reading shit and misinterpreting it. I am actually involved in this and it is impacting my life.
 

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Oh, fuck off. Getting the benefits that I earned wouldn't be at the expense of others any more than anyone's SS is at the expense of others. CONs took away the benefits I earned, and there was a bipartisan effort to reinstate them. Just go stick a hot poker up your gaping asshole.

You seem to not understand that people can have earnings that ARE covered by SS in addition to earnings that are not.
Which CONS took away your benefits….how, and who did it?
 
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You should read this out loud……perhaps it might help you understand what is being written here

“would have eliminated Social Security provisions that reduce benefits for retirees who've received a public pension working in a job not covered by the government program”

The benefits in question are already reduced due to the nature of the pension the pensioner receives ……this bill would increase benefits over what they are now, at an increased cost to others. No decrease due to the law not going forward.

Were you aware of the conditions that would affect your receipts as you worked as a professor? Will this be a question you will answer?……..

Do you now expect an increased benefit at the expense of others…..the bill would have added

From the original article……

”The Congressional Budget Office estimated that the bill would
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over ten years.”

Cost additional money…….by increasing benefits……..rather than saving money by cutting benefits.

Why do you feel you are entitled to an increase?
That's a quote from the article, you nitwit. The actual law is not exactly what that article says. I kniow this law very, very well. It has impacted my life and I have participated in multiple sessions in which we professors were drafting proposals to eliminate this provision. I know what I'm talking about, you DO. NOT.
 

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That's a quote from the article, you nitwit. The actual law is not exactly what that article says. I kniow this law very, very well. It has impacted my life and I have participated in multiple sessions in which we professors were drafting proposals to eliminate this provision. I know what I'm talking about, you DO. NOT.
As the proposal is currently written, the extra few dollars going back into Grandma's Monthly SSI Checks, is coming off the "back end" ie it's depleting the SS Reserve Accounts....guess which party wants to Privatize SS, any guesses on which one?
 
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As the proposal is currently written, the extra few dollars going back into Grandma's Monthly SSI Checks, is coming off the "back end" ie it's depleting the SS Reserve Accounts....guess which party wants to Privatize SS, any guesses on which one?
Well, exactly. This provision, which in reality TAKES AWAY money that was legitimately contributed to a person's future SS benefits, was an early attempt at slowly stealing and privatizing SS benefits.

That asshole does not know what he is talking about.
 
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The windfall profits provision is a very complicated law with an absurdly complicate formula for implementation. If you call someone at SS and ask them to explain how it will affect you, they cannot tell you because they don't understand the law. It's not surprising the article got it wrong. Under the ridiculous law and it's incomprehensible formula, I lost 50% of my EARNED social security benefits. I lost 50% of the amount that the SS site would tell me I was entitled to. All because I worked in a public university. It's an obscene law. Also, in reality, the more money you earn, the LESS money they take away from you. Tell me how much sense that makes.
 

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