Derek Chauvin Conviction to be Overturned

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I've already stated what I think happened.
To me, at least, the fact that Floyd was know to be in distress medically at the time of his arrest makes the rough treatment by Chauvin that much more egregious. It would have been unacceptable in the case of a person who wasn't compromised, and Chauvin certainly knew that.


There was a day when police were respected
Not since I was a youngster here in the States. We called them pigs then and that how I refer to them today, and that is due to they're biased behavior when protecting and serving. You see - they are supposed to do that for all, equally, bu,t don't.
We all know you only pretend to give a shit because FoF was black and Chauvin is white, that's your ONLY motivation in this case... :Sad:

Bullshit. I remember when cops killed a mentally ill young white man in CA. I was irate and I even posted links to it on CBT. You let your racism get in the way of your objectivity and ability to reason. Many of us liberal folks may react more vocally to incidents with blacks because we understand the US's history of racism fuels a lot of this. That's not what's happening when a cop murders a white person. SMH
Shove your neg reps up your ass you lying, whining tart!
 

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you think a kid should have let himself be murdered
You know what I think (?) - I think his parents should have prevented him from carrying a weapon (which he was not legally authorized to carry) across state lines into a volatile situation. If he was there to put out fires and lend medical assistance, which he also would be doing on no authority) then you do not need a weapon for that. Never heard of shooting a fire out. Thirdly - the people who he shot were the ones trying to defend themselves, trying only to disarm him since he had already shot at someone. KR is guilty of willful homicide.

You got basic facts of the case wrong.
1) He was legally carrying the firearm in question
2) The rifle belonged to his friend and never crossed any state lines.
3) He most certainly needed a firearm as drugged out kunatics from other states descended upon his town to destroy it. He worked in that town and lived 5 minutes away.
4) Antifa fired first.
5) Another antifa ran up to Kyle and attempted to do him bodily harm while Kyle tried to run away, repeatedly.
6) It was only when cornered and threatened with death that Kyle took defensive action to save his life.

I always see ignorant people mouthing off the most. They don't know basic facts yet babble loudest for some reason.

Pure bullshit.

Thank you for proving me correct, yes, the most ignorant are indeed the loudest but they just babble and do not know any facts.

I suggest people follow this person on Twitter as he is Kyle's lawyer and posts so great evidence for everyone to see.

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He can be a fuckwit and a victim too....
not in the minds of one dimensional thinking potato heads like Lotus

I hate cops... last interaction I had with them, the lead guy was threatening to storm onto my property as I was filming from next to my front door and TAKE my phone if I didn't stop filming them.

I told him he was going to be in a world of shit if he entered my property line and tried to shut off my camera.

So he backed off a lil after I asked if he was "threatening" me.

So I proceed towards my property line...not totally to it, but a safe space between, and he threatens me again... he ACTUALLY CHARGED TOWARDS ME as I was filming, and I didn't flinch ever. He stopped about a foot from my face.

I told him after that "get off my property" so many times it was mind boggling. He tried to ask me questions and I said I don't care....get off my property.

Eventually he did get off my property... I kept filming and suddenly, his partner was shining a spotlight directly at my head. Not a flashlight, but a side torch mounted on the side of the vehicle.

This pissed me off no end. They were trying to kill my video with lighting.

I still managed to use my free hand to shield the spotlight enough just above the phone camera to continue recording.

And then the main arsehole challenged me again... so I up ticked a middle finger and he asked "are you giving us a rude gesture"...


I asked, "rude gesture? Like blinding me with a spotlight to my eyes on my own property?"

Then they drove away.... I had enough video. We called a truce.

Being libertarian....especailly a right leaning one, has GOT to be rough in Australia.

It's fine until you encounter authorities...

...but I always remain calm and firm. I tell them WHY they are fucking up and that I will be pursuing it if they don't stand down.

Authorities are shielded from there lies here too, so I just repeat a few phrases like I do not consent or get off my property or when they threaten me or lie on camera, "are you threatening me" or "are you lying to me"?

Yet I do appreciate them for some things.... like when my son needed to be choppered after his accident, or they came around to allow us to get his personal effects from the crushed vehicle.

Cops are human beings.... but they have too much discretionary power when it comes to their day to day.

Australian cops are fuckwits.

I've had more positive interactions with police than negative ones.

But that one very bad one I had was bad lol. That "mistaken identity" felony stop would have been hard on a normal person. It was traumatizing for someone with ptsd.

I get a spike of anxiety anytime I see a cop. But yeah they are just humans....public servants, and we do need them if we want a truly free AND safe, civil society.
Like anything else there are good cops and bad cops.

I've had my fair share of negative interactions with them but overall I understand their value & the difficulty of the job they are asked to do

Exactly. And even if you are getting confronted with a real shitty one and he is totally in the wrong.. .....you DONT fight him the damn street.

You talk to him with respect, cooperate, and you fight that shit in court where the fight is supposed to happen.

And you do this because you value living in a free and cohesive society where we have individual rights.

There is a very good reason they want your hands in view at all times until they have established you are not going to attack them.
Notice MORE black people dying after white liberals have been egging them on to believe in this systemic racism crap?

I Have.

Yes I have and I take every opportunity to fuss about it.

The vast amounts of incredible damage from these riots is overwhelming. These people are so lacking in fundamental empathy and stick to their narratives and feelings of superiority no matter who gets harmed or killed.

900 some excess deaths because of the riots. Fucking 900 some excess deaths.

That's over 900. People dead from being present at these riots or dead because police are overwhelmed with riot activity.....leaving residents very vulnerable and criminals who know and take advantage. Rapes, murders, theft. People dead because medical first responders couldnt get to them as fast and are also overwhelmed.

And the property destruction. It's going to drive decades of deeper poverty.

They just dont give a fuck. They like how they feel "fighting" and that's all they care about. They are literally killing the very people they are pretending to care about.

And you see how some react with hatred and rage when you invade their civil rights heros larp with any sort of reality.

I would really like to see a source for the 900 excessive deaths figure. I believe it to be true but would like to use it on another forum and will need a source for it.

Sure!

I need to go find it. It was broken down per state and excess deaths related to riots and not the excess Covid 19 deaths.

I just tried to google this to find the source I'm referencing and didnt get it that way, so I'm gonna have to go weed through the group it was posted it.

But I'll definitely get it. Its truly fucking sad.
 

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you think a kid should have let himself be murdered
You know what I think (?) - I think his parents should have prevented him from carrying a weapon (which he was not legally authorized to carry) across state lines into a volatile situation. If he was there to put out fires and lend medical assistance, which he also would be doing on no authority) then you do not need a weapon for that. Never heard of shooting a fire out. Thirdly - the people who he shot were the ones trying to defend themselves, trying only to disarm him since he had already shot at someone. KR is guilty of willful homicide.

You got basic facts of the case wrong.
1) He was legally carrying the firearm in question
2) The rifle belonged to his friend and never crossed any state lines.
3) He most certainly needed a firearm as drugged out kunatics from other states descended upon his town to destroy it. He worked in that town and lived 5 minutes away.
4) Antifa fired first.
5) Another antifa ran up to Kyle and attempted to do him bodily harm while Kyle tried to run away, repeatedly.
6) It was only when cornered and threatened with death that Kyle took defensive action to save his life.

I always see ignorant people mouthing off the most. They don't know basic facts yet babble loudest for some reason.

Pure bullshit.

Explain exactly how that's "pure bullshit"?

We showed you multiple videos with attornies even breaking it down and cited several facts about this incident but you just continually ignore all of it.

WHY is it SO important to you to completely ignore the indisputable facts of what happened in that town?

You hate people so much that you dont care of their town gets completely destroyed and dont care if anyone dies as long as no one defends themselves?

Even a 17 year kid shouldnt be allowed to protect himself when grown ass adults who are terrorizing a town attack him? That's how deep your partisan hate is?
 

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lotta bootlicking going on in this thread.

Says the establishment shill that thinks no one should ever go scare politicains but shooting 8 year olds is okay.

Who actively supports the government taking over every aspect of our lives.

Yes idiot ..... police are the enemy. But the demonshit politicains who form and manage police are ur fraaaayynnndss.
 

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Even when you show them, they just keep right on repeating falsehoods.

They dont want anyone defending themselves when the hate mobs descend and start destroying everyone's life. The faster these cities are decimated and the government steps in to "rescue" the people by ripping our rights to protest and coming in with federal welfare and health care the better.

The country wont accept full on socialism/communism until enough peoples lives are destroyed and they are desperate.

Its awesome how corporations are cheering on the destruction of their small business competition. If the lock downs, riots dont kill them.....that 15 dollar an hour minimum will help it along. And the morons will applaud it and totally ignore how more people will just go out of business.

I'm completely convinced all of this is being done and tolerated for the purpose of rendering the people so desperate that they are more likely to accept bigger more involved government.
 

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The juror went to a commemoration of the MLK march. His t-shirt has a pic of MLK, with the "knee off our necks" reference to Floyd on the shirt. You people are totally grasping at straws. This won't cause a mistrial.

Dream the fuck on.

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Well actually lying to a judge is purgury and a compulsory jail sentence.
 

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The juror went to a commemoration of the MLK march. His t-shirt has a pic of MLK, with the "knee off our necks" reference to Floyd on the shirt. You people are totally grasping at straws. This won't cause a mistrial.

Dream the fuck on.

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Well actually lying to a judge is purgury and a compulsory jail sentence.
How do you figure he lied? He went to a commemoration of MLK. That's not the same as a Floyd demonstration. And I believe you mean "perjury." LOL
 

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you think a kid should have let himself be murdered
You know what I think (?) - I think his parents should have prevented him from carrying a weapon (which he was not legally authorized to carry) across state lines into a volatile situation. If he was there to put out fires and lend medical assistance, which he also would be doing on no authority) then you do not need a weapon for that. Never heard of shooting a fire out. Thirdly - the people who he shot were the ones trying to defend themselves, trying only to disarm him since he had already shot at someone. KR is guilty of willful homicide.

You got basic facts of the case wrong.
1) He was legally carrying the firearm in question
2) The rifle belonged to his friend and never crossed any state lines.
3) He most certainly needed a firearm as drugged out kunatics from other states descended upon his town to destroy it. He worked in that town and lived 5 minutes away.
4) Antifa fired first.
5) Another antifa ran up to Kyle and attempted to do him bodily harm while Kyle tried to run away, repeatedly.
6) It was only when cornered and threatened with death that Kyle took defensive action to save his life.

I always see ignorant people mouthing off the most. They don't know basic facts yet babble loudest for some reason.

Pure bullshit.

Thank you for proving me correct, yes, the most ignorant are indeed the loudest but they just babble and do not know any facts.

I suggest people follow this person on Twitter as he is Kyle's lawyer and posts so great evidence for everyone to see.

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Kyle's lawyer? You're kidding, right? It's his job to obfuscate the truth.
 

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The juror went to a commemoration of the MLK march. His t-shirt has a pic of MLK, with the "knee off our necks" reference to Floyd on the shirt. You people are totally grasping at straws. This won't cause a mistrial.

Dream the fuck on.

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Well actually lying to a judge is purgury and a compulsory jail sentence.
How do you figure he lied? He went to a commemoration of MLK. That's not the same as a Floyd demonstration. And I believe you mean "perjury." LOL

He had a Floyd shirt on. We have been telling you this.

You cant just ignore that and expect it to not exist.
 

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And unintentional 2nd degree murder... in other words he isn't a murderer.

Chauvn was convicted of these three things:

Second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter.


I posted the official legal definition of 2nd degree manslaughter above. Here it is again:

Manslaughter in the Second Degree occurs when a person continues with a reckless act that they are aware of committing, and they consciously disregard the potentially fatal risks involved to others. The risk must be of the type that any reasonable person would not ignore.

In other words, Chavin is a murderer.

Yes, 3 counts. I don't think he is murderer at all but he definitely should pay for torturing Floyd because the way I see it, holding someone down like that for 9 minutes was torture.... just my opinion.

He's a murderer. He knew exactly what he was doing and kept it up purposely.

Chauvin's policing was disgusting.

Floyd's autopsy said he had lethal levels of fentenyl (4 x lethal dose) and other drugs plus he had coronavirus plus a heart attack. He was going to die with or without being necked by an unfeeling and over-zealous copper.

I saw the video of George Floyd staggering all over the shop trying to pass the $20 counterfeit bill. He wasn't looking too good, that's for sure.

I think he was in pain from the coronavirus which is EXTREMELY painful and he self medicated... he isn't the first one to overdo drugs and he won't be the last.

You don't know he was going to die. You aren't a doctor and you weren't there. We do know that Chauvin made sure he died.

I guess you havent seen the autopsy report.
.I guess you haven't seen the video of the murder.
The case was like a Mike Tyson knockout.
Chavin's down and he ain't getting up.



Oh I seen it. I seen the WHOLE thing, where he was hollering he couldnt breathe while standing, nor in the back of the squad car.

I guess if one is going to commit crimes, maybe dont OD on drugs before you do it.

Shame the paramedics didnt get there sooner, all this could've been avoided. Guess we need to defund the paramedics while we at it huh?

otopsy.jpg

.Don't go and be negligent, Blasétard.
Please, include the cause of death - Homicide.
.Two autopsies drew the same conclusion.


Guess you cant read pictures, it says "no life threatening injuries identified". You're welcome.

..and that was one of the two official autopsies or maybe a bullshit preliminary offered by the defense in pretrial? It was the actions that Chauvin took, which were concluded by the court to have been reckless and with knowledge of what were to be likely consequence, which caused Floyd's death.

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I agree, 100% reckless. You can't change that result in my opinion.

How much punishment does that deserve, 5 years? 10 years?


20 minimum. He knew what he was doing. Evil fuck.


He literally did nothing but what the police academy trained him to do. I understand you are stupid and have limited intellectual abilities but even making allowances for such you are just drooling and shitting yourself here.

His uphill Commanders, including the head training Officer, all said Derek murdered George Floyd, so why are you dingdongs retrying the case with that line of bullshit? git gud!


The case isn't over until all appeals have been exhausted.

:Crazy:


Are you having trouble with the court appeals concept lotus?


No. I'm having trouble with the delusional scenario you people are spinning. It's nuts.

what is delusional about the desire to maintain a bedrock principle of fairness when it comes to jury selection you simple propaganda regurgitating corpse?

The process is called voir dire. Look it up

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I'm thrilled with the outcome of this case but remain concerned with how we got there and if this were a black man on trial and a white jury member who decided his fate were seen with a KKK or confederate tee shirt espousing anti minority views on facebook prior to deliberations you'd be concerned with the fairness of the process too

it's called legal precedent. Look up, lunch dispenser.


He was wearing an MLK t-shirt. No issue at all. Look it up when you're done cleaning the toilets in your pre-fab McMansion, Strapon.


Yeah with a Floyd reference

Why the fuck are you arguing this? Seriously? Do you think denying reality is going to magically HELP?

So if the actions of Waters and shit like this DOES mess up getting Chauvin charged... you can just blame other people and some mythical "racism".

Newsflash Dovetard, Chauvin has been charged AND Convicted, fait accompli bitches!
 

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And unintentional 2nd degree murder... in other words he isn't a murderer.

Chauvn was convicted of these three things:

Second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter.


I posted the official legal definition of 2nd degree manslaughter above. Here it is again:

Manslaughter in the Second Degree occurs when a person continues with a reckless act that they are aware of committing, and they consciously disregard the potentially fatal risks involved to others. The risk must be of the type that any reasonable person would not ignore.

In other words, Chavin is a murderer.

Yes, 3 counts. I don't think he is murderer at all but he definitely should pay for torturing Floyd because the way I see it, holding someone down like that for 9 minutes was torture.... just my opinion.

He's a murderer. He knew exactly what he was doing and kept it up purposely.

Chauvin's policing was disgusting.

Floyd's autopsy said he had lethal levels of fentenyl (4 x lethal dose) and other drugs plus he had coronavirus plus a heart attack. He was going to die with or without being necked by an unfeeling and over-zealous copper.

I saw the video of George Floyd staggering all over the shop trying to pass the $20 counterfeit bill. He wasn't looking too good, that's for sure.

I think he was in pain from the coronavirus which is EXTREMELY painful and he self medicated... he isn't the first one to overdo drugs and he won't be the last.

You don't know he was going to die. You aren't a doctor and you weren't there. We do know that Chauvin made sure he died.

I guess you havent seen the autopsy report.
.I guess you haven't seen the video of the murder.
The case was like a Mike Tyson knockout.
Chavin's down and he ain't getting up.



Oh I seen it. I seen the WHOLE thing, where he was hollering he couldnt breathe while standing, nor in the back of the squad car.

I guess if one is going to commit crimes, maybe dont OD on drugs before you do it.

Shame the paramedics didnt get there sooner, all this could've been avoided. Guess we need to defund the paramedics while we at it huh?

otopsy.jpg

.Don't go and be negligent, Blasétard.
Please, include the cause of death - Homicide.
.Two autopsies drew the same conclusion.


Guess you cant read pictures, it says "no life threatening injuries identified". You're welcome.

..and that was one of the two official autopsies or maybe a bullshit preliminary offered by the defense in pretrial? It was the actions that Chauvin took, which were concluded by the court to have been reckless and with knowledge of what were to be likely consequence, which caused Floyd's death.

Homicide, the killing of one
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by another. Homicide is a general term and may refer to a noncriminal act as well as the criminal act of
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. Some homicides are considered justifiable, such as the killing of a person to prevent the commission of a serious
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or to aid a representative of the law. Other homicides are said to be excusable, as when a person kills in
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. A criminal homicide is one that is not regarded by the applicable criminal code as justifiable or excusable. All legal systems make important distinctions between different types of homicide, and punishments vary greatly according to the intent of the killer, the dangerousness of the killer’s conduct, and the circumstances of the act.


I agree, 100% reckless. You can't change that result in my opinion.

How much punishment does that deserve, 5 years? 10 years?


20 minimum. He knew what he was doing. Evil fuck.


He literally did nothing but what the police academy trained him to do. I understand you are stupid and have limited intellectual abilities but even making allowances for such you are just drooling and shitting yourself here.

His uphill Commanders, including the head training Officer, all said Derek murdered George Floyd, so why are you dingdongs retrying the case with that line of bullshit? git gud!


The case isn't over until all appeals have been exhausted.

:Crazy:


Are you having trouble with the court appeals concept lotus?


No. I'm having trouble with the delusional scenario you people are spinning. It's nuts.

what is delusional about the desire to maintain a bedrock principle of fairness when it comes to jury selection you simple propaganda regurgitating corpse?

The process is called voir dire. Look it up

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.

I'm thrilled with the outcome of this case but remain concerned with how we got there and if this were a black man on trial and a white jury member who decided his fate were seen with a KKK or confederate tee shirt espousing anti minority views on facebook prior to deliberations you'd be concerned with the fairness of the process too

it's called legal precedent. Look up, lunch dispenser.


He was wearing an MLK t-shirt. No issue at all. Look it up when you're done cleaning the toilets in your pre-fab McMansion, Strapon.


Yeah with a Floyd reference

Why the fuck are you arguing this? Seriously? Do you think denying reality is going to magically HELP?

So if the actions of Waters and shit like this DOES mess up getting Chauvin charged... you can just blame other people and some mythical "racism".

Newsflash Dovetard, Chauvin has been charged AND Convicted, fait accompli bitches!

And Gorgeous George is still dead as fuck!
 

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And unintentional 2nd degree murder... in other words he isn't a murderer.

Chauvn was convicted of these three things:

Second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter.


I posted the official legal definition of 2nd degree manslaughter above. Here it is again:

Manslaughter in the Second Degree occurs when a person continues with a reckless act that they are aware of committing, and they consciously disregard the potentially fatal risks involved to others. The risk must be of the type that any reasonable person would not ignore.

In other words, Chavin is a murderer.

Yes, 3 counts. I don't think he is murderer at all but he definitely should pay for torturing Floyd because the way I see it, holding someone down like that for 9 minutes was torture.... just my opinion.

He's a murderer. He knew exactly what he was doing and kept it up purposely.

Chauvin's policing was disgusting.

Floyd's autopsy said he had lethal levels of fentenyl (4 x lethal dose) and other drugs plus he had coronavirus plus a heart attack. He was going to die with or without being necked by an unfeeling and over-zealous copper.

I saw the video of George Floyd staggering all over the shop trying to pass the $20 counterfeit bill. He wasn't looking too good, that's for sure.

I think he was in pain from the coronavirus which is EXTREMELY painful and he self medicated... he isn't the first one to overdo drugs and he won't be the last.

You don't know he was going to die. You aren't a doctor and you weren't there. We do know that Chauvin made sure he died.

I guess you havent seen the autopsy report.
.I guess you haven't seen the video of the murder.
The case was like a Mike Tyson knockout.
Chavin's down and he ain't getting up.



Oh I seen it. I seen the WHOLE thing, where he was hollering he couldnt breathe while standing, nor in the back of the squad car.

I guess if one is going to commit crimes, maybe dont OD on drugs before you do it.

Shame the paramedics didnt get there sooner, all this could've been avoided. Guess we need to defund the paramedics while we at it huh?

otopsy.jpg

.Don't go and be negligent, Blasétard.
Please, include the cause of death - Homicide.
.Two autopsies drew the same conclusion.


Guess you cant read pictures, it says "no life threatening injuries identified". You're welcome.

..and that was one of the two official autopsies or maybe a bullshit preliminary offered by the defense in pretrial? It was the actions that Chauvin took, which were concluded by the court to have been reckless and with knowledge of what were to be likely consequence, which caused Floyd's death.

Homicide, the killing of one
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by another. Homicide is a general term and may refer to a noncriminal act as well as the criminal act of
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. Some homicides are considered justifiable, such as the killing of a person to prevent the commission of a serious
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or to aid a representative of the law. Other homicides are said to be excusable, as when a person kills in
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. A criminal homicide is one that is not regarded by the applicable criminal code as justifiable or excusable. All legal systems make important distinctions between different types of homicide, and punishments vary greatly according to the intent of the killer, the dangerousness of the killer’s conduct, and the circumstances of the act.


I agree, 100% reckless. You can't change that result in my opinion.

How much punishment does that deserve, 5 years? 10 years?


20 minimum. He knew what he was doing. Evil fuck.


He literally did nothing but what the police academy trained him to do. I understand you are stupid and have limited intellectual abilities but even making allowances for such you are just drooling and shitting yourself here.

His uphill Commanders, including the head training Officer, all said Derek murdered George Floyd, so why are you dingdongs retrying the case with that line of bullshit? git gud!


The case isn't over until all appeals have been exhausted.

:Crazy:


Are you having trouble with the court appeals concept lotus?


No. I'm having trouble with the delusional scenario you people are spinning. It's nuts.

what is delusional about the desire to maintain a bedrock principle of fairness when it comes to jury selection you simple propaganda regurgitating corpse?

The process is called voir dire. Look it up

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
.

I'm thrilled with the outcome of this case but remain concerned with how we got there and if this were a black man on trial and a white jury member who decided his fate were seen with a KKK or confederate tee shirt espousing anti minority views on facebook prior to deliberations you'd be concerned with the fairness of the process too

it's called legal precedent. Look up, lunch dispenser.


He was wearing an MLK t-shirt. No issue at all. Look it up when you're done cleaning the toilets in your pre-fab McMansion, Strapon.


Yeah with a Floyd reference

Why the fuck are you arguing this? Seriously? Do you think denying reality is going to magically HELP?

So if the actions of Waters and shit like this DOES mess up getting Chauvin charged... you can just blame other people and some mythical "racism".

Newsflash Dovetard, Chauvin has been charged AND Convicted, fait accompli bitches!


Is it hard to be as ignorant and fucking stupid as you are?

You cant even understand what's being discussed.

Fucking retard. Just stick to begging me for tit pictures, you seem to be at home on that level.
 

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Admin posts the stupidest most off the wall shit that constantly shows he has absolutely NO clue what is being said.

Cant a more competent NPC take him to Leftard HQ to fix whatever short is happening in his chip? So he can least follow a simple exchange? Or blather his leftarded mantras in the correct context?

I mean he cant even handle a thread. Maybe he could be reassigned take over for one of the bots on political socail media pages .....they are only slightly more intelligent.
 

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To me, at least, the fact that Floyd was know to be in distress medically at the time of his arrest makes the rough treatment by Chauvin that much more egregious. It would have been unacceptable in the case of a person who wasn't compromised, and Chauvin certainly knew that.

I believe Floyd was dying already and I agree with you 100%, Chauvin failed George by treating him like a piece of dirt and not an emergency... cops and judges treat poor people with open distain. ( I religiously watch that horrible rich bitch Judge Judy and some of her judgements are openly misogynistic ).

It's probably WHY one of the three verdicts was 2nd degree manslaughter. Chauvin should have at least looked concerned and attempted a rescue.
 

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Admin posts the stupidest most off the wall shit that constantly shows he has absolutely NO clue what is being said.

Cant a more competent NPC take him to Leftard HQ to fix whatever short is happening in his chip? So he can least follow a simple exchange? Or blather his leftarded mantras in the correct context?


He's a leftist... he's a freeloader without any scruples.
 

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Admin posts the stupidest most off the wall shit that constantly shows he has absolutely NO clue what is being said.

Cant a more competent NPC take him to Leftard HQ to fix whatever short is happening in his chip? So he can least follow a simple exchange? Or blather his leftarded mantras in the correct context?


He's a leftist... he's a freeloader without any scruples.

Yeah but he cant even follow anything being said.

At least the other ones put their idiotic responses in the right context.
 

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To me, at least, the fact that Floyd was know to be in distress medically at the time of his arrest makes the rough treatment by Chauvin that much more egregious. It would have been unacceptable in the case of a person who wasn't compromised, and Chauvin certainly knew that.

I believe Floyd was dying already and I agree with you 100%, Chauvin failed George by treating him like a piece of dirt and not an emergency... cops and judges treat poor people with open distain. ( I religiously watch that horrible rich bitch Judge Judy and some of her judgements are openly misogynistic ).

It's probably WHY one of the three verdicts was 2nd degree manslaughter. Chauvin should have at least looked concerned and attempted a rescue.

Chauvin has a pretty abusive record. It's hard to flesh out what's what because many people will still lodge complaints even when they are 100 percent in the wrong.

But he apparently threw a woman out of her truck in a totally unessesary show of aggression.

He has a questionable history. Probably not the most empathetic person.
 

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And unintentional 2nd degree murder... in other words he isn't a murderer.

Chauvn was convicted of these three things:

Second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter.


I posted the official legal definition of 2nd degree manslaughter above. Here it is again:

Manslaughter in the Second Degree occurs when a person continues with a reckless act that they are aware of committing, and they consciously disregard the potentially fatal risks involved to others. The risk must be of the type that any reasonable person would not ignore.

In other words, Chavin is a murderer.

Yes, 3 counts. I don't think he is murderer at all but he definitely should pay for torturing Floyd because the way I see it, holding someone down like that for 9 minutes was torture.... just my opinion.

He's a murderer. He knew exactly what he was doing and kept it up purposely.

Chauvin's policing was disgusting.

Floyd's autopsy said he had lethal levels of fentenyl (4 x lethal dose) and other drugs plus he had coronavirus plus a heart attack. He was going to die with or without being necked by an unfeeling and over-zealous copper.

I saw the video of George Floyd staggering all over the shop trying to pass the $20 counterfeit bill. He wasn't looking too good, that's for sure.

I think he was in pain from the coronavirus which is EXTREMELY painful and he self medicated... he isn't the first one to overdo drugs and he won't be the last.

You don't know he was going to die. You aren't a doctor and you weren't there. We do know that Chauvin made sure he died.

I guess you havent seen the autopsy report.
.I guess you haven't seen the video of the murder.
The case was like a Mike Tyson knockout.
Chavin's down and he ain't getting up.



Oh I seen it. I seen the WHOLE thing, where he was hollering he couldnt breathe while standing, nor in the back of the squad car.

I guess if one is going to commit crimes, maybe dont OD on drugs before you do it.

Shame the paramedics didnt get there sooner, all this could've been avoided. Guess we need to defund the paramedics while we at it huh?

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.Don't go and be negligent, Blasétard.
Please, include the cause of death - Homicide.
.Two autopsies drew the same conclusion.


Guess you cant read pictures, it says "no life threatening injuries identified". You're welcome.

..and that was one of the two official autopsies or maybe a bullshit preliminary offered by the defense in pretrial? It was the actions that Chauvin took, which were concluded by the court to have been reckless and with knowledge of what were to be likely consequence, which caused Floyd's death.

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I agree, 100% reckless. You can't change that result in my opinion.

How much punishment does that deserve, 5 years? 10 years?


20 minimum. He knew what he was doing. Evil fuck.


He literally did nothing but what the police academy trained him to do. I understand you are stupid and have limited intellectual abilities but even making allowances for such you are just drooling and shitting yourself here.

His uphill Commanders, including the head training Officer, all said Derek murdered George Floyd, so why are you dingdongs retrying the case with that line of bullshit? git gud!


The case isn't over until all appeals have been exhausted.

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Are you having trouble with the court appeals concept lotus?


No. I'm having trouble with the delusional scenario you people are spinning. It's nuts.

what is delusional about the desire to maintain a bedrock principle of fairness when it comes to jury selection you simple propaganda regurgitating corpse?

The process is called voir dire. Look it up

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I'm thrilled with the outcome of this case but remain concerned with how we got there and if this were a black man on trial and a white jury member who decided his fate were seen with a KKK or confederate tee shirt espousing anti minority views on facebook prior to deliberations you'd be concerned with the fairness of the process too

it's called legal precedent. Look up, lunch dispenser.


He was wearing an MLK t-shirt. No issue at all. Look it up when you're done cleaning the toilets in your pre-fab McMansion, Strapon.


Yeah with a Floyd reference

Why the fuck are you arguing this? Seriously? Do you think denying reality is going to magically HELP?

So if the actions of Waters and shit like this DOES mess up getting Chauvin charged... you can just blame other people and some mythical "racism".

Newsflash Dovetard, Chauvin has been charged AND Convicted, fait accompli bitches!

And Gorgeous George is still dead as fuck!


And Chauvin is still going to spend decades in prison. He's in for a joy ride there!
 
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The juror went to a commemoration of the MLK march. His t-shirt has a pic of MLK, with the "knee off our necks" reference to Floyd on the shirt. You people are totally grasping at straws. This won't cause a mistrial.

Dream the fuck on.

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Well actually lying to a judge is purgury and a compulsory jail sentence.
How do you figure he lied? He went to a commemoration of MLK. That's not the same as a Floyd demonstration. And I believe you mean "perjury." LOL

Yes because BLM was around during MLK's time. Get back to making meatloaf.