Derek Chauvin Conviction to be Overturned

[LotusBud]

I've already stated what I think happened.

To me, at least, the fact that Floyd was know to be in distress medically at the time of his arrest makes the rough treatment by Chauvin that much more egregious. It would have been unacceptable in the case of a person who wasn't compromised, and Chauvin certainly knew that.

There was a day when police were respected

Not since I was a youngster here in the States. We called them pigs then and that how I refer to them today, and that is due to they're biased behavior when protecting and serving. You see - they are supposed to do that for all, equally, bu,t don't.

We all know you only pretend to give a shit because FoF was black and Chauvin is white, that's your ONLY motivation in this case...

Bullshit. I remember when cops killed a mentally ill young white man in CA. I was irate and I even posted links to it on CBT. You let your racism get in the way of your objectivity and ability to reason. Many of us liberal folks may react more vocally to incidents with blacks because we understand the US's history of racism fuels a lot of this. That's not what's happening when a cop murders a white person. SMH

 

[Biggie Smiles]

And unintentional 2nd degree murder... in other words he isn't a murderer.

Chauvn was convicted of these three things:

Second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter.


I posted the official legal definition of 2nd degree manslaughter above. Here it is again:

Manslaughter in the Second Degree occurs when a person continues with a reckless act that they are aware of committing, and they consciously disregard the potentially fatal risks involved to others. The risk must be of the type that any reasonable person would not ignore.

In other words, Chavin is a murderer.

Yes, 3 counts. I don't think he is murderer at all but he definitely should pay for torturing Floyd because the way I see it, holding someone down like that for 9 minutes was torture.... just my opinion.

He's a murderer. He knew exactly what he was doing and kept it up purposely.

Chauvin's policing was disgusting.

Floyd's autopsy said he had lethal levels of fentenyl (4 x lethal dose) and other drugs plus he had coronavirus plus a heart attack. He was going to die with or without being necked by an unfeeling and over-zealous copper.

I saw the video of George Floyd staggering all over the shop trying to pass the $20 counterfeit bill. He wasn't looking too good, that's for sure.

I think he was in pain from the coronavirus which is EXTREMELY painful and he self medicated... he isn't the first one to overdo drugs and he won't be the last.

You don't know he was going to die. You aren't a doctor and you weren't there. We do know that Chauvin made sure he died.

I guess you havent seen the autopsy report.

.I guess you haven't seen the video of the murder.
The case was like a Mike Tyson knockout.
Chavin's down and he ain't getting up.

Oh I seen it. I seen the WHOLE thing, where he was hollering he couldnt breathe while standing, nor in the back of the squad car.

I guess if one is going to commit crimes, maybe dont OD on drugs before you do it.

Shame the paramedics didnt get there sooner, all this could've been avoided. Guess we need to defund the paramedics while we at it huh?

.Don't go and be negligent, Blasétard.
Please, include the cause of death - Homicide.
.Two autopsies drew the same conclusion.

Guess you cant read pictures, it says "no life threatening injuries identified". You're welcome.

..and that was one of the two official autopsies or maybe a bullshit preliminary offered by the defense in pretrial? It was the actions that Chauvin took, which were concluded by the court to have been reckless and with knowledge of what were to be likely consequence, which caused Floyd's death.

Homicide, the killing of one

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. Some homicides are considered justifiable, such as the killing of a person to prevent the commission of a serious

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or to aid a representative of the law. Other homicides are said to be excusable, as when a person kills in

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. A criminal homicide is one that is not regarded by the applicable criminal code as justifiable or excusable. All legal systems make important distinctions between different types of homicide, and punishments vary greatly according to the intent of the killer, the dangerousness of the killer’s conduct, and the circumstances of the act.

I agree, 100% reckless. You can't change that result in my opinion.

How much punishment does that deserve, 5 years? 10 years?

20 minimum. He knew what he was doing. Evil fuck.

He literally did nothing but what the police academy trained him to do. I understand you are stupid and have limited intellectual abilities but even making allowances for such you are just drooling and shitting yourself here.

His uphill Commanders, including the head training Officer, all said Derek murdered George Floyd, so why are you dingdongs retrying the case with that line of bullshit? git gud!

The case isn't over until all appeals have been exhausted.

Are you having trouble with the court appeals concept lotus?

No. I'm having trouble with the delusional scenario you people are spinning. It's nuts.

what is delusional about the desire to maintain a bedrock principle of fairness when it comes to jury selection you simple propaganda regurgitating corpse?

The process is called voir dire. Look it up

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.

I'm thrilled with the outcome of this case but remain concerned with how we got there and if this were a black man on trial and a white jury member who decided his fate were seen with a KKK or confederate tee shirt espousing anti minority views on facebook prior to deliberations you'd be concerned with the fairness of the process too

it's called legal precedent. Look up, lunch dispenser.

 

[Dove]

Here is a great example of how cultish progressives are

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I mean the irony here is these lock downs are killing poor people. That's who is suffering the most because of them. But these people are delusional and unreasonable and just wave groups around like props. They don't truly care.

"The spring of 2021 is different from the spring of 2020, though. Scientists know a lot more about how COVID-19 spreads—and how it doesn’t. Public-health advice is shifting. But some progressives have not updated their behavior based on the new information. And in their eagerness to protect themselves and others, they may be underestimating other costs. Being extra careful about COVID-19 is (mostly) harmless when it’s limited to wiping down your groceries with Lysol wipes and wearing a mask in places where you’re unlikely to spread the coronavirus, such as on a hiking trail. But vigilance can have unintended consequences when it imposes on other people’s lives. Even as scientific knowledge of COVID-19 has increased, some progressives have continued to embrace policies and behaviors that aren’t supported by evidence, such as banning access to playgrounds, closing beaches, and refusing to reopen schools for in-person learning."

 

[LotusBud]

And unintentional 2nd degree murder... in other words he isn't a murderer.

Chauvn was convicted of these three things:

Second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter.


I posted the official legal definition of 2nd degree manslaughter above. Here it is again:

Manslaughter in the Second Degree occurs when a person continues with a reckless act that they are aware of committing, and they consciously disregard the potentially fatal risks involved to others. The risk must be of the type that any reasonable person would not ignore.

In other words, Chavin is a murderer.

Yes, 3 counts. I don't think he is murderer at all but he definitely should pay for torturing Floyd because the way I see it, holding someone down like that for 9 minutes was torture.... just my opinion.

He's a murderer. He knew exactly what he was doing and kept it up purposely.

Chauvin's policing was disgusting.

Floyd's autopsy said he had lethal levels of fentenyl (4 x lethal dose) and other drugs plus he had coronavirus plus a heart attack. He was going to die with or without being necked by an unfeeling and over-zealous copper.

I saw the video of George Floyd staggering all over the shop trying to pass the $20 counterfeit bill. He wasn't looking too good, that's for sure.

I think he was in pain from the coronavirus which is EXTREMELY painful and he self medicated... he isn't the first one to overdo drugs and he won't be the last.

You don't know he was going to die. You aren't a doctor and you weren't there. We do know that Chauvin made sure he died.

I guess you havent seen the autopsy report.

.I guess you haven't seen the video of the murder.
The case was like a Mike Tyson knockout.
Chavin's down and he ain't getting up.

Oh I seen it. I seen the WHOLE thing, where he was hollering he couldnt breathe while standing, nor in the back of the squad car.

I guess if one is going to commit crimes, maybe dont OD on drugs before you do it.

Shame the paramedics didnt get there sooner, all this could've been avoided. Guess we need to defund the paramedics while we at it huh?

.Don't go and be negligent, Blasétard.
Please, include the cause of death - Homicide.
.Two autopsies drew the same conclusion.

Guess you cant read pictures, it says "no life threatening injuries identified". You're welcome.

..and that was one of the two official autopsies or maybe a bullshit preliminary offered by the defense in pretrial? It was the actions that Chauvin took, which were concluded by the court to have been reckless and with knowledge of what were to be likely consequence, which caused Floyd's death.

Homicide, the killing of one

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by another. Homicide is a general term and may refer to a noncriminal act as well as the criminal act of

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. Some homicides are considered justifiable, such as the killing of a person to prevent the commission of a serious

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or to aid a representative of the law. Other homicides are said to be excusable, as when a person kills in

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. A criminal homicide is one that is not regarded by the applicable criminal code as justifiable or excusable. All legal systems make important distinctions between different types of homicide, and punishments vary greatly according to the intent of the killer, the dangerousness of the killer’s conduct, and the circumstances of the act.

I agree, 100% reckless. You can't change that result in my opinion.

How much punishment does that deserve, 5 years? 10 years?

20 minimum. He knew what he was doing. Evil fuck.

He literally did nothing but what the police academy trained him to do. I understand you are stupid and have limited intellectual abilities but even making allowances for such you are just drooling and shitting yourself here.

His uphill Commanders, including the head training Officer, all said Derek murdered George Floyd, so why are you dingdongs retrying the case with that line of bullshit? git gud!

The case isn't over until all appeals have been exhausted.

Are you having trouble with the court appeals concept lotus?

No. I'm having trouble with the delusional scenario you people are spinning. It's nuts.

what is delusional about the desire to maintain a bedrock principle of fairness when it comes to jury selection you simple propaganda regurgitating corpse?

The process is called voir dire. Look it up

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.

I'm thrilled with the outcome of this case but remain concerned with how we got there and if this were a black man on trial and a white jury member who decided his fate were seen with a KKK or confederate tee shirt espousing anti minority views on facebook prior to deliberations you'd be concerned with the fairness of the process too

it's called legal precedent. Look up, lunch dispenser.

He was wearing an MLK t-shirt. No issue at all. Look it up when you're done cleaning the toilets in your pre-fab McMansion, Strapon.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

He can be a fuckwit and a victim too....

not in the minds of one dimensional thinking potato heads like Lotus

 

[Dove]

And unintentional 2nd degree murder... in other words he isn't a murderer.

Chauvn was convicted of these three things:

Second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter.


I posted the official legal definition of 2nd degree manslaughter above. Here it is again:

Manslaughter in the Second Degree occurs when a person continues with a reckless act that they are aware of committing, and they consciously disregard the potentially fatal risks involved to others. The risk must be of the type that any reasonable person would not ignore.

In other words, Chavin is a murderer.

Yes, 3 counts. I don't think he is murderer at all but he definitely should pay for torturing Floyd because the way I see it, holding someone down like that for 9 minutes was torture.... just my opinion.

He's a murderer. He knew exactly what he was doing and kept it up purposely.

Chauvin's policing was disgusting.

Floyd's autopsy said he had lethal levels of fentenyl (4 x lethal dose) and other drugs plus he had coronavirus plus a heart attack. He was going to die with or without being necked by an unfeeling and over-zealous copper.

I saw the video of George Floyd staggering all over the shop trying to pass the $20 counterfeit bill. He wasn't looking too good, that's for sure.

I think he was in pain from the coronavirus which is EXTREMELY painful and he self medicated... he isn't the first one to overdo drugs and he won't be the last.

You don't know he was going to die. You aren't a doctor and you weren't there. We do know that Chauvin made sure he died.

I guess you havent seen the autopsy report.

.I guess you haven't seen the video of the murder.
The case was like a Mike Tyson knockout.
Chavin's down and he ain't getting up.

Oh I seen it. I seen the WHOLE thing, where he was hollering he couldnt breathe while standing, nor in the back of the squad car.

I guess if one is going to commit crimes, maybe dont OD on drugs before you do it.

Shame the paramedics didnt get there sooner, all this could've been avoided. Guess we need to defund the paramedics while we at it huh?

.Don't go and be negligent, Blasétard.
Please, include the cause of death - Homicide.
.Two autopsies drew the same conclusion.

Guess you cant read pictures, it says "no life threatening injuries identified". You're welcome.

..and that was one of the two official autopsies or maybe a bullshit preliminary offered by the defense in pretrial? It was the actions that Chauvin took, which were concluded by the court to have been reckless and with knowledge of what were to be likely consequence, which caused Floyd's death.

Homicide, the killing of one

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by another. Homicide is a general term and may refer to a noncriminal act as well as the criminal act of

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. Some homicides are considered justifiable, such as the killing of a person to prevent the commission of a serious

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or to aid a representative of the law. Other homicides are said to be excusable, as when a person kills in

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. A criminal homicide is one that is not regarded by the applicable criminal code as justifiable or excusable. All legal systems make important distinctions between different types of homicide, and punishments vary greatly according to the intent of the killer, the dangerousness of the killer’s conduct, and the circumstances of the act.

I agree, 100% reckless. You can't change that result in my opinion.

How much punishment does that deserve, 5 years? 10 years?

20 minimum. He knew what he was doing. Evil fuck.

He literally did nothing but what the police academy trained him to do. I understand you are stupid and have limited intellectual abilities but even making allowances for such you are just drooling and shitting yourself here.

His uphill Commanders, including the head training Officer, all said Derek murdered George Floyd, so why are you dingdongs retrying the case with that line of bullshit? git gud!

The case isn't over until all appeals have been exhausted.

Are you having trouble with the court appeals concept lotus?

No. I'm having trouble with the delusional scenario you people are spinning. It's nuts.

what is delusional about the desire to maintain a bedrock principle of fairness when it comes to jury selection you simple propaganda regurgitating corpse?

The process is called voir dire. Look it up

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.

I'm thrilled with the outcome of this case but remain concerned with how we got there and if this were a black man on trial and a white jury member who decided his fate were seen with a KKK or confederate tee shirt espousing anti minority views on facebook prior to deliberations you'd be concerned with the fairness of the process too

it's called legal precedent. Look up, lunch dispenser.

He was wearing an MLK t-shirt. No issue at all. Look it up when you're done cleaning the toilets in your pre-fab McMansion, Strapon.

Yeah with a Floyd reference

Why the fuck are you arguing this? Seriously? Do you think denying reality is going to magically HELP?

So if the actions of Waters and shit like this DOES mess up getting Chauvin charged... you can just blame other people and some mythical "racism".

 

[Biggie Smiles]

And unintentional 2nd degree murder... in other words he isn't a murderer.

Chauvn was convicted of these three things:

Second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter.


I posted the official legal definition of 2nd degree manslaughter above. Here it is again:

Manslaughter in the Second Degree occurs when a person continues with a reckless act that they are aware of committing, and they consciously disregard the potentially fatal risks involved to others. The risk must be of the type that any reasonable person would not ignore.

In other words, Chavin is a murderer.

Yes, 3 counts. I don't think he is murderer at all but he definitely should pay for torturing Floyd because the way I see it, holding someone down like that for 9 minutes was torture.... just my opinion.

He's a murderer. He knew exactly what he was doing and kept it up purposely.

Chauvin's policing was disgusting.

Floyd's autopsy said he had lethal levels of fentenyl (4 x lethal dose) and other drugs plus he had coronavirus plus a heart attack. He was going to die with or without being necked by an unfeeling and over-zealous copper.

I saw the video of George Floyd staggering all over the shop trying to pass the $20 counterfeit bill. He wasn't looking too good, that's for sure.

I think he was in pain from the coronavirus which is EXTREMELY painful and he self medicated... he isn't the first one to overdo drugs and he won't be the last.

You don't know he was going to die. You aren't a doctor and you weren't there. We do know that Chauvin made sure he died.

I guess you havent seen the autopsy report.

.I guess you haven't seen the video of the murder.
The case was like a Mike Tyson knockout.
Chavin's down and he ain't getting up.

Oh I seen it. I seen the WHOLE thing, where he was hollering he couldnt breathe while standing, nor in the back of the squad car.

I guess if one is going to commit crimes, maybe dont OD on drugs before you do it.

Shame the paramedics didnt get there sooner, all this could've been avoided. Guess we need to defund the paramedics while we at it huh?

.Don't go and be negligent, Blasétard.
Please, include the cause of death - Homicide.
.Two autopsies drew the same conclusion.

Guess you cant read pictures, it says "no life threatening injuries identified". You're welcome.

..and that was one of the two official autopsies or maybe a bullshit preliminary offered by the defense in pretrial? It was the actions that Chauvin took, which were concluded by the court to have been reckless and with knowledge of what were to be likely consequence, which caused Floyd's death.

Homicide, the killing of one

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by another. Homicide is a general term and may refer to a noncriminal act as well as the criminal act of

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. Some homicides are considered justifiable, such as the killing of a person to prevent the commission of a serious

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or to aid a representative of the law. Other homicides are said to be excusable, as when a person kills in

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. A criminal homicide is one that is not regarded by the applicable criminal code as justifiable or excusable. All legal systems make important distinctions between different types of homicide, and punishments vary greatly according to the intent of the killer, the dangerousness of the killer’s conduct, and the circumstances of the act.

I agree, 100% reckless. You can't change that result in my opinion.

How much punishment does that deserve, 5 years? 10 years?

20 minimum. He knew what he was doing. Evil fuck.

He literally did nothing but what the police academy trained him to do. I understand you are stupid and have limited intellectual abilities but even making allowances for such you are just drooling and shitting yourself here.

His uphill Commanders, including the head training Officer, all said Derek murdered George Floyd, so why are you dingdongs retrying the case with that line of bullshit? git gud!

The case isn't over until all appeals have been exhausted.

Are you having trouble with the court appeals concept lotus?

No. I'm having trouble with the delusional scenario you people are spinning. It's nuts.

it isn't delusional, Chauvin will be appealling his conviction... he'll just keep appealling until his conviction is quashed.

His conviction is not going to be quashed. You'll see soon enough. And, of course, you'll pretend you never claimed it would be. LOL

Noooo, you're mixing me up with someone else I'm afraid. I strive to be open minded. I've already stated what I think happened.

I do not respect Floyd and equally I don't think much of Chauvin either unless the public who have encountered him give glowing character reports to his stellar personality.

There was a day when police were respected but these days, they're not.

Peaches used to post news articles about police brutality on a group called Wicked Kewl. I used to be shocked after reading them.

I think he, (George) died from coronavirus, the heart attack was the finish of it. I say that because he was screaming he couldn't breath WAYYY before being crushed but Chauvin, who wasn't a wafer by any stretch of the imagination, was a HUGE heavy guy like George was.

George died of the aggregate of all events that occurred that day. Including being pressed face down on the concrete with his hands behind his back and a knee pressing down on his upper back/neck area. The center of Chauvin's weight was firmly on his own knee which induced considerable stress on a man who was already under duress.

That's negligent homicide at a minimum. The man pleaded with Chauvin about his breathing status and at a minimum should have been placed on his side. He was no longer a threat to anyone but himself at that point.

To any of my fellow conservatives who believe otherwise I challenge you to run up and down a flight of stairs continuously until you you are completely out of breath, place your hands behind your back and lay face down on the floor. See how many seconds you can make it before feeling like you are going to pass out and then imagine 200+ pounds of weight straddled to your upper back/shoulder/neck region. Then think to yourself.. this poor guy endured THAT for 9 and a half minutes. Fuck no I have no pity for Chauvin and want to see him pay for his crime.

Derrick is where he should be but the process is tainted as a result of dumb fucks like this Juror, Maxine waters and JOe Biden. All of whom happen to be dumb fucking liberals

 

[Biggie Smiles]

And unintentional 2nd degree murder... in other words he isn't a murderer.

Chauvn was convicted of these three things:

Second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter.


I posted the official legal definition of 2nd degree manslaughter above. Here it is again:

Manslaughter in the Second Degree occurs when a person continues with a reckless act that they are aware of committing, and they consciously disregard the potentially fatal risks involved to others. The risk must be of the type that any reasonable person would not ignore.

In other words, Chavin is a murderer.

Yes, 3 counts. I don't think he is murderer at all but he definitely should pay for torturing Floyd because the way I see it, holding someone down like that for 9 minutes was torture.... just my opinion.

He's a murderer. He knew exactly what he was doing and kept it up purposely.

Chauvin's policing was disgusting.

Floyd's autopsy said he had lethal levels of fentenyl (4 x lethal dose) and other drugs plus he had coronavirus plus a heart attack. He was going to die with or without being necked by an unfeeling and over-zealous copper.

I saw the video of George Floyd staggering all over the shop trying to pass the $20 counterfeit bill. He wasn't looking too good, that's for sure.

I think he was in pain from the coronavirus which is EXTREMELY painful and he self medicated... he isn't the first one to overdo drugs and he won't be the last.

You don't know he was going to die. You aren't a doctor and you weren't there. We do know that Chauvin made sure he died.

I guess you havent seen the autopsy report.

.I guess you haven't seen the video of the murder.
The case was like a Mike Tyson knockout.
Chavin's down and he ain't getting up.

Oh I seen it. I seen the WHOLE thing, where he was hollering he couldnt breathe while standing, nor in the back of the squad car.

I guess if one is going to commit crimes, maybe dont OD on drugs before you do it.

Shame the paramedics didnt get there sooner, all this could've been avoided. Guess we need to defund the paramedics while we at it huh?

.Don't go and be negligent, Blasétard.
Please, include the cause of death - Homicide.
.Two autopsies drew the same conclusion.

Guess you cant read pictures, it says "no life threatening injuries identified". You're welcome.

..and that was one of the two official autopsies or maybe a bullshit preliminary offered by the defense in pretrial? It was the actions that Chauvin took, which were concluded by the court to have been reckless and with knowledge of what were to be likely consequence, which caused Floyd's death.

Homicide, the killing of one

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by another. Homicide is a general term and may refer to a noncriminal act as well as the criminal act of

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. Some homicides are considered justifiable, such as the killing of a person to prevent the commission of a serious

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or to aid a representative of the law. Other homicides are said to be excusable, as when a person kills in

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. A criminal homicide is one that is not regarded by the applicable criminal code as justifiable or excusable. All legal systems make important distinctions between different types of homicide, and punishments vary greatly according to the intent of the killer, the dangerousness of the killer’s conduct, and the circumstances of the act.

I agree, 100% reckless. You can't change that result in my opinion.

How much punishment does that deserve, 5 years? 10 years?

20 minimum. He knew what he was doing. Evil fuck.

He literally did nothing but what the police academy trained him to do. I understand you are stupid and have limited intellectual abilities but even making allowances for such you are just drooling and shitting yourself here.

His uphill Commanders, including the head training Officer, all said Derek murdered George Floyd, so why are you dingdongs retrying the case with that line of bullshit? git gud!

The case isn't over until all appeals have been exhausted.

Are you having trouble with the court appeals concept lotus?

No. I'm having trouble with the delusional scenario you people are spinning. It's nuts.

what is delusional about the desire to maintain a bedrock principle of fairness when it comes to jury selection you simple propaganda regurgitating corpse?

The process is called voir dire. Look it up

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

.

I'm thrilled with the outcome of this case but remain concerned with how we got there and if this were a black man on trial and a white jury member who decided his fate were seen with a KKK or confederate tee shirt espousing anti minority views on facebook prior to deliberations you'd be concerned with the fairness of the process too

it's called legal precedent. Look up, lunch dispenser.

He was wearing an MLK t-shirt. No issue at all. Look it up when you're done cleaning the toilets in your pre-fab McMansion, Strapon.

An MLK tee shirt that read "get your knee off our necks" you dumb fucking wombat classroom janitor.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

And unintentional 2nd degree murder... in other words he isn't a murderer.

Chauvn was convicted of these three things:

Second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter.


I posted the official legal definition of 2nd degree manslaughter above. Here it is again:

Manslaughter in the Second Degree occurs when a person continues with a reckless act that they are aware of committing, and they consciously disregard the potentially fatal risks involved to others. The risk must be of the type that any reasonable person would not ignore.

In other words, Chavin is a murderer.

Yes, 3 counts. I don't think he is murderer at all but he definitely should pay for torturing Floyd because the way I see it, holding someone down like that for 9 minutes was torture.... just my opinion.

He's a murderer. He knew exactly what he was doing and kept it up purposely.

Chauvin's policing was disgusting.

Floyd's autopsy said he had lethal levels of fentenyl (4 x lethal dose) and other drugs plus he had coronavirus plus a heart attack. He was going to die with or without being necked by an unfeeling and over-zealous copper.

I saw the video of George Floyd staggering all over the shop trying to pass the $20 counterfeit bill. He wasn't looking too good, that's for sure.

I think he was in pain from the coronavirus which is EXTREMELY painful and he self medicated... he isn't the first one to overdo drugs and he won't be the last.

You don't know he was going to die. You aren't a doctor and you weren't there. We do know that Chauvin made sure he died.

I guess you havent seen the autopsy report.

.I guess you haven't seen the video of the murder.
The case was like a Mike Tyson knockout.
Chavin's down and he ain't getting up.

Oh I seen it. I seen the WHOLE thing, where he was hollering he couldnt breathe while standing, nor in the back of the squad car.

I guess if one is going to commit crimes, maybe dont OD on drugs before you do it.

Shame the paramedics didnt get there sooner, all this could've been avoided. Guess we need to defund the paramedics while we at it huh?

.Don't go and be negligent, Blasétard.
Please, include the cause of death - Homicide.
.Two autopsies drew the same conclusion.

Guess you cant read pictures, it says "no life threatening injuries identified". You're welcome.

..and that was one of the two official autopsies or maybe a bullshit preliminary offered by the defense in pretrial? It was the actions that Chauvin took, which were concluded by the court to have been reckless and with knowledge of what were to be likely consequence, which caused Floyd's death.

Homicide, the killing of one

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by another. Homicide is a general term and may refer to a noncriminal act as well as the criminal act of

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. Some homicides are considered justifiable, such as the killing of a person to prevent the commission of a serious

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or to aid a representative of the law. Other homicides are said to be excusable, as when a person kills in

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. A criminal homicide is one that is not regarded by the applicable criminal code as justifiable or excusable. All legal systems make important distinctions between different types of homicide, and punishments vary greatly according to the intent of the killer, the dangerousness of the killer’s conduct, and the circumstances of the act.

I agree, 100% reckless. You can't change that result in my opinion.

How much punishment does that deserve, 5 years? 10 years?

20 minimum. He knew what he was doing. Evil fuck.

He literally did nothing but what the police academy trained him to do. I understand you are stupid and have limited intellectual abilities but even making allowances for such you are just drooling and shitting yourself here.

His uphill Commanders, including the head training Officer, all said Derek murdered George Floyd, so why are you dingdongs retrying the case with that line of bullshit? git gud!

The case isn't over until all appeals have been exhausted.

Are you having trouble with the court appeals concept lotus?

No. I'm having trouble with the delusional scenario you people are spinning. It's nuts.

what is delusional about the desire to maintain a bedrock principle of fairness when it comes to jury selection you simple propaganda regurgitating corpse?

The process is called voir dire. Look it up

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.

I'm thrilled with the outcome of this case but remain concerned with how we got there and if this were a black man on trial and a white jury member who decided his fate were seen with a KKK or confederate tee shirt espousing anti minority views on facebook prior to deliberations you'd be concerned with the fairness of the process too

it's called legal precedent. Look up, lunch dispenser.

He was wearing an MLK t-shirt. No issue at all. Look it up when you're done cleaning the toilets in your pre-fab McMansion, Strapon.

Yeah with a Floyd reference

Why the fuck are you arguing this? Seriously? Do you think denying reality is going to magically HELP?

So if the actions of Waters and shit like this DOES mess up getting Chauvin charged... you can just blame other people and some mythical "racism".

I'm stunned that such a low IQ meat head would be allowed to teach children in a public school.

Then again, she did so in California ... so.....

 

[Dove]

And unintentional 2nd degree murder... in other words he isn't a murderer.

Chauvn was convicted of these three things:

Second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter.


I posted the official legal definition of 2nd degree manslaughter above. Here it is again:

Manslaughter in the Second Degree occurs when a person continues with a reckless act that they are aware of committing, and they consciously disregard the potentially fatal risks involved to others. The risk must be of the type that any reasonable person would not ignore.

In other words, Chavin is a murderer.

Yes, 3 counts. I don't think he is murderer at all but he definitely should pay for torturing Floyd because the way I see it, holding someone down like that for 9 minutes was torture.... just my opinion.

He's a murderer. He knew exactly what he was doing and kept it up purposely.

Chauvin's policing was disgusting.

Floyd's autopsy said he had lethal levels of fentenyl (4 x lethal dose) and other drugs plus he had coronavirus plus a heart attack. He was going to die with or without being necked by an unfeeling and over-zealous copper.

I saw the video of George Floyd staggering all over the shop trying to pass the $20 counterfeit bill. He wasn't looking too good, that's for sure.

I think he was in pain from the coronavirus which is EXTREMELY painful and he self medicated... he isn't the first one to overdo drugs and he won't be the last.

You don't know he was going to die. You aren't a doctor and you weren't there. We do know that Chauvin made sure he died.

I guess you havent seen the autopsy report.

.I guess you haven't seen the video of the murder.
The case was like a Mike Tyson knockout.
Chavin's down and he ain't getting up.

Oh I seen it. I seen the WHOLE thing, where he was hollering he couldnt breathe while standing, nor in the back of the squad car.

I guess if one is going to commit crimes, maybe dont OD on drugs before you do it.

Shame the paramedics didnt get there sooner, all this could've been avoided. Guess we need to defund the paramedics while we at it huh?

.Don't go and be negligent, Blasétard.
Please, include the cause of death - Homicide.
.Two autopsies drew the same conclusion.

Guess you cant read pictures, it says "no life threatening injuries identified". You're welcome.

..and that was one of the two official autopsies or maybe a bullshit preliminary offered by the defense in pretrial? It was the actions that Chauvin took, which were concluded by the court to have been reckless and with knowledge of what were to be likely consequence, which caused Floyd's death.

Homicide, the killing of one

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or to aid a representative of the law. Other homicides are said to be excusable, as when a person kills in

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I agree, 100% reckless. You can't change that result in my opinion.

How much punishment does that deserve, 5 years? 10 years?

20 minimum. He knew what he was doing. Evil fuck.

He literally did nothing but what the police academy trained him to do. I understand you are stupid and have limited intellectual abilities but even making allowances for such you are just drooling and shitting yourself here.

His uphill Commanders, including the head training Officer, all said Derek murdered George Floyd, so why are you dingdongs retrying the case with that line of bullshit? git gud!

The case isn't over until all appeals have been exhausted.

Are you having trouble with the court appeals concept lotus?

No. I'm having trouble with the delusional scenario you people are spinning. It's nuts.

it isn't delusional, Chauvin will be appealling his conviction... he'll just keep appealling until his conviction is quashed.

His conviction is not going to be quashed. You'll see soon enough. And, of course, you'll pretend you never claimed it would be. LOL

Noooo, you're mixing me up with someone else I'm afraid. I strive to be open minded. I've already stated what I think happened.

I do not respect Floyd and equally I don't think much of Chauvin either unless the public who have encountered him give glowing character reports to his stellar personality.

There was a day when police were respected but these days, they're not.

Peaches used to post news articles about police brutality on a group called Wicked Kewl. I used to be shocked after reading them.

I think he, (George) died from coronavirus, the heart attack was the finish of it. I say that because he was screaming he couldn't breath WAYYY before being crushed but Chauvin, who wasn't a wafer by any stretch of the imagination, was a HUGE heavy guy like George was.

George died of the aggregate of all events that occurred that day. Including being pressed face down on the concrete with his hands behind his back and a knee pressing down on his upper back/neck area. The center of Chauvin's weight was firmly on his own knee which induced considerable stress on a man who was already under duress.

That's negligent homicide at a minimum. The man pleaded with Chauvin about his breathing status and at a minimum should have been placed on his side. He was no longer a threat to anyone but himself at that point.

To any of my fellow conservatives who believe otherwise I challenge you to run up and down a flight of stairs continuously until you you are completely out of breath, place your hands behind your back and lay face down on the floor. See how many seconds you can make it before feeling like you are going to pass out and then imagine 200+ pounds of weight straddled to your upper back/shoulder/neck region. Then think to yourself.. this poor guy endured THAT for 9 and a half minutes. Fuck no I have no pity for Chauvin and want to see him pay for his crime.

Derrick is where he should be but the process is tainted as a result of dumb fucks like this Juror, Maxine waters and JOe Biden. All of whom happen to be dumb fucking liberals

Now Biggy they are so enlightened they just know we are REALLY big mad that one of OURS didnt get away with murder dammit! We are all racists and Amerikkka sucks and there was nothing wrong at all with the trial its racisms!!!

 

[Dove]

And unintentional 2nd degree murder... in other words he isn't a murderer.

Chauvn was convicted of these three things:

Second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter.


I posted the official legal definition of 2nd degree manslaughter above. Here it is again:

Manslaughter in the Second Degree occurs when a person continues with a reckless act that they are aware of committing, and they consciously disregard the potentially fatal risks involved to others. The risk must be of the type that any reasonable person would not ignore.

In other words, Chavin is a murderer.

Yes, 3 counts. I don't think he is murderer at all but he definitely should pay for torturing Floyd because the way I see it, holding someone down like that for 9 minutes was torture.... just my opinion.

He's a murderer. He knew exactly what he was doing and kept it up purposely.

Chauvin's policing was disgusting.

Floyd's autopsy said he had lethal levels of fentenyl (4 x lethal dose) and other drugs plus he had coronavirus plus a heart attack. He was going to die with or without being necked by an unfeeling and over-zealous copper.

I saw the video of George Floyd staggering all over the shop trying to pass the $20 counterfeit bill. He wasn't looking too good, that's for sure.

I think he was in pain from the coronavirus which is EXTREMELY painful and he self medicated... he isn't the first one to overdo drugs and he won't be the last.

You don't know he was going to die. You aren't a doctor and you weren't there. We do know that Chauvin made sure he died.

I guess you havent seen the autopsy report.

.I guess you haven't seen the video of the murder.
The case was like a Mike Tyson knockout.
Chavin's down and he ain't getting up.

Oh I seen it. I seen the WHOLE thing, where he was hollering he couldnt breathe while standing, nor in the back of the squad car.

I guess if one is going to commit crimes, maybe dont OD on drugs before you do it.

Shame the paramedics didnt get there sooner, all this could've been avoided. Guess we need to defund the paramedics while we at it huh?

.Don't go and be negligent, Blasétard.
Please, include the cause of death - Homicide.
.Two autopsies drew the same conclusion.

Guess you cant read pictures, it says "no life threatening injuries identified". You're welcome.

..and that was one of the two official autopsies or maybe a bullshit preliminary offered by the defense in pretrial? It was the actions that Chauvin took, which were concluded by the court to have been reckless and with knowledge of what were to be likely consequence, which caused Floyd's death.

Homicide, the killing of one

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by another. Homicide is a general term and may refer to a noncriminal act as well as the criminal act of

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. Some homicides are considered justifiable, such as the killing of a person to prevent the commission of a serious

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or to aid a representative of the law. Other homicides are said to be excusable, as when a person kills in

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. A criminal homicide is one that is not regarded by the applicable criminal code as justifiable or excusable. All legal systems make important distinctions between different types of homicide, and punishments vary greatly according to the intent of the killer, the dangerousness of the killer’s conduct, and the circumstances of the act.

I agree, 100% reckless. You can't change that result in my opinion.

How much punishment does that deserve, 5 years? 10 years?

20 minimum. He knew what he was doing. Evil fuck.

He literally did nothing but what the police academy trained him to do. I understand you are stupid and have limited intellectual abilities but even making allowances for such you are just drooling and shitting yourself here.

His uphill Commanders, including the head training Officer, all said Derek murdered George Floyd, so why are you dingdongs retrying the case with that line of bullshit? git gud!

The case isn't over until all appeals have been exhausted.

Are you having trouble with the court appeals concept lotus?

No. I'm having trouble with the delusional scenario you people are spinning. It's nuts.

what is delusional about the desire to maintain a bedrock principle of fairness when it comes to jury selection you simple propaganda regurgitating corpse?

The process is called voir dire. Look it up

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.

I'm thrilled with the outcome of this case but remain concerned with how we got there and if this were a black man on trial and a white jury member who decided his fate were seen with a KKK or confederate tee shirt espousing anti minority views on facebook prior to deliberations you'd be concerned with the fairness of the process too

it's called legal precedent. Look up, lunch dispenser.

He was wearing an MLK t-shirt. No issue at all. Look it up when you're done cleaning the toilets in your pre-fab McMansion, Strapon.

Yeah with a Floyd reference

Why the fuck are you arguing this? Seriously? Do you think denying reality is going to magically HELP?

So if the actions of Waters and shit like this DOES mess up getting Chauvin charged... you can just blame other people and some mythical "racism".

I'm stunned that such a low IQ meat head would be allowed to teach children in a public school.

Then again, she did so in California ... so.....

It's an actual cult. There is no other explanation.

 

[Dove]

I've already stated what I think happened.

To me, at least, the fact that Floyd was know to be in distress medically at the time of his arrest makes the rough treatment by Chauvin that much more egregious. It would have been unacceptable in the case of a person who wasn't compromised, and Chauvin certainly knew that.

There was a day when police were respected

Not since I was a youngster here in the States. We called them pigs then and that how I refer to them today, and that is due to they're biased behavior when protecting and serving. You see - they are supposed to do that for all, equally, bu,t don't.

We all know you only pretend to give a shit because FoF was black and Chauvin is white, that's your ONLY motivation in this case...

Bullshit. I remember when cops killed a mentally ill young white man in CA. I was irate and I even posted links to it on CBT. You let your racism get in the way of your objectivity and ability to reason. Many of us liberal folks may react more vocally to incidents with blacks because we understand the US's history of racism fuels a lot of this. That's not what's happening when a cop murders a white person. SMH

Actually we don't change how we view these incidents based on race.

You guys do. It's literally the only thing you guys consider.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

And unintentional 2nd degree murder... in other words he isn't a murderer.

Chauvn was convicted of these three things:

Second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter.


I posted the official legal definition of 2nd degree manslaughter above. Here it is again:

Manslaughter in the Second Degree occurs when a person continues with a reckless act that they are aware of committing, and they consciously disregard the potentially fatal risks involved to others. The risk must be of the type that any reasonable person would not ignore.

In other words, Chavin is a murderer.

Yes, 3 counts. I don't think he is murderer at all but he definitely should pay for torturing Floyd because the way I see it, holding someone down like that for 9 minutes was torture.... just my opinion.

He's a murderer. He knew exactly what he was doing and kept it up purposely.

Chauvin's policing was disgusting.

Floyd's autopsy said he had lethal levels of fentenyl (4 x lethal dose) and other drugs plus he had coronavirus plus a heart attack. He was going to die with or without being necked by an unfeeling and over-zealous copper.

I saw the video of George Floyd staggering all over the shop trying to pass the $20 counterfeit bill. He wasn't looking too good, that's for sure.

I think he was in pain from the coronavirus which is EXTREMELY painful and he self medicated... he isn't the first one to overdo drugs and he won't be the last.

You don't know he was going to die. You aren't a doctor and you weren't there. We do know that Chauvin made sure he died.

I guess you havent seen the autopsy report.

.I guess you haven't seen the video of the murder.
The case was like a Mike Tyson knockout.
Chavin's down and he ain't getting up.

Oh I seen it. I seen the WHOLE thing, where he was hollering he couldnt breathe while standing, nor in the back of the squad car.

I guess if one is going to commit crimes, maybe dont OD on drugs before you do it.

Shame the paramedics didnt get there sooner, all this could've been avoided. Guess we need to defund the paramedics while we at it huh?

.Don't go and be negligent, Blasétard.
Please, include the cause of death - Homicide.
.Two autopsies drew the same conclusion.

Guess you cant read pictures, it says "no life threatening injuries identified". You're welcome.

..and that was one of the two official autopsies or maybe a bullshit preliminary offered by the defense in pretrial? It was the actions that Chauvin took, which were concluded by the court to have been reckless and with knowledge of what were to be likely consequence, which caused Floyd's death.

Homicide, the killing of one

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by another. Homicide is a general term and may refer to a noncriminal act as well as the criminal act of

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. Some homicides are considered justifiable, such as the killing of a person to prevent the commission of a serious

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or to aid a representative of the law. Other homicides are said to be excusable, as when a person kills in

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. A criminal homicide is one that is not regarded by the applicable criminal code as justifiable or excusable. All legal systems make important distinctions between different types of homicide, and punishments vary greatly according to the intent of the killer, the dangerousness of the killer’s conduct, and the circumstances of the act.

I agree, 100% reckless. You can't change that result in my opinion.

How much punishment does that deserve, 5 years? 10 years?

20 minimum. He knew what he was doing. Evil fuck.

He literally did nothing but what the police academy trained him to do. I understand you are stupid and have limited intellectual abilities but even making allowances for such you are just drooling and shitting yourself here.

His uphill Commanders, including the head training Officer, all said Derek murdered George Floyd, so why are you dingdongs retrying the case with that line of bullshit? git gud!

The case isn't over until all appeals have been exhausted.

Are you having trouble with the court appeals concept lotus?

No. I'm having trouble with the delusional scenario you people are spinning. It's nuts.

what is delusional about the desire to maintain a bedrock principle of fairness when it comes to jury selection you simple propaganda regurgitating corpse?

The process is called voir dire. Look it up

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.

I'm thrilled with the outcome of this case but remain concerned with how we got there and if this were a black man on trial and a white jury member who decided his fate were seen with a KKK or confederate tee shirt espousing anti minority views on facebook prior to deliberations you'd be concerned with the fairness of the process too

it's called legal precedent. Look up, lunch dispenser.

He was wearing an MLK t-shirt. No issue at all. Look it up when you're done cleaning the toilets in your pre-fab McMansion, Strapon.

Yeah with a Floyd reference

Why the fuck are you arguing this? Seriously? Do you think denying reality is going to magically HELP?

So if the actions of Waters and shit like this DOES mess up getting Chauvin charged... you can just blame other people and some mythical "racism".

I'm stunned that such a low IQ meat head would be allowed to teach children in a public school.

Then again, she did so in California ... so.....

It's an actual cult. There is no other explanation.

Soy Francisco is the epi-center for delusion and mental illness but is now rapidly falling behind Portland on the degeneracy totem pole.

Have you seen the way they are treating Catlyn Jenner ? THe eat their own with no problem if one deviates from the hive mind even in the slightest.

As conservatives we don't do that.

You fellow conservatives and I agree on 99.9% of the issues, but on this CHauvin thing I am obviously not on the same trail but have received no backlash as a result. Because we all believe in free thought. They (liberals) do not.

 

[Frood]

He can be a fuckwit and a victim too....

not in the minds of one dimensional thinking potato heads like Lotus

I hate cops... last interaction I had with them, the lead guy was threatening to storm onto my property as I was filming from next to my front door and TAKE my phone if I didn't stop filming them.

I told him he was going to be in a world of shit if he entered my property line and tried to shut off my camera.

So he backed off a lil after I asked if he was "threatening" me.

So I proceed towards my property line...not totally to it, but a safe space between, and he threatens me again... he ACTUALLY CHARGED TOWARDS ME as I was filming, and I didn't flinch ever. He stopped about a foot from my face.

I told him after that "get off my property" so many times it was mind boggling. He tried to ask me questions and I said I don't care....get off my property.

Eventually he did get off my property... I kept filming and suddenly, his partner was shining a spotlight directly at my head. Not a flashlight, but a side torch mounted on the side of the vehicle.

This pissed me off no end. They were trying to kill my video with lighting.

I still managed to use my free hand to shield the spotlight enough just above the phone camera to continue recording.

And then the main arsehole challenged me again... so I up ticked a middle finger and he asked "are you giving us a rude gesture"...


I asked, "rude gesture? Like blinding me with a spotlight to my eyes on my own property?"

Then they drove away.... I had enough video. We called a truce.

 

[Dove]

He can be a fuckwit and a victim too....

not in the minds of one dimensional thinking potato heads like Lotus

I hate cops... last interaction I had with them, the lead guy was threatening to storm onto my property as I was filming from next to my front door and TAKE my phone if I didn't stop filming them.

I told him he was going to be in a world of shit if he entered my property line and tried to shut off my camera.

So he backed off a lil after I asked if he was "threatening" me.

So I proceed towards my property line...not totally to it, but a safe space between, and he threatens me again... he ACTUALLY CHARGED TOWARDS ME as I was filming, and I didn't flinch ever. He stopped about a foot from my face.

I told him after that "get off my property" so many times it was mind boggling. He tried to ask me questions and I said I don't care....get off my property.

Eventually he did get off my property... I kept filming and suddenly, his partner was shining a spotlight directly at my head. Not a flashlight, but a side torch mounted on the side of the vehicle.

This pissed me off no end. They were trying to kill my video with lighting.

I still managed to use my free hand to shield the spotlight enough just above the phone camera to continue recording.

And then the main arsehole challenged me again... so I up ticked a middle finger and he asked "are you giving us a rude gesture"...


I asked, "rude gesture? Like blinding me with a spotlight to my eyes on my own property?"

Then they drove away.... I had enough video. We called a truce.

Being libertarian....especailly a right leaning one, has GOT to be rough in Australia.

 

[Dove]

Due process matters.

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[Frood]

He can be a fuckwit and a victim too....

not in the minds of one dimensional thinking potato heads like Lotus

I hate cops... last interaction I had with them, the lead guy was threatening to storm onto my property as I was filming from next to my front door and TAKE my phone if I didn't stop filming them.

I told him he was going to be in a world of shit if he entered my property line and tried to shut off my camera.

So he backed off a lil after I asked if he was "threatening" me.

So I proceed towards my property line...not totally to it, but a safe space between, and he threatens me again... he ACTUALLY CHARGED TOWARDS ME as I was filming, and I didn't flinch ever. He stopped about a foot from my face.

I told him after that "get off my property" so many times it was mind boggling. He tried to ask me questions and I said I don't care....get off my property.

Eventually he did get off my property... I kept filming and suddenly, his partner was shining a spotlight directly at my head. Not a flashlight, but a side torch mounted on the side of the vehicle.

This pissed me off no end. They were trying to kill my video with lighting.

I still managed to use my free hand to shield the spotlight enough just above the phone camera to continue recording.

And then the main arsehole challenged me again... so I up ticked a middle finger and he asked "are you giving us a rude gesture"...


I asked, "rude gesture? Like blinding me with a spotlight to my eyes on my own property?"

Then they drove away.... I had enough video. We called a truce.

Being libertarian....especailly a right leaning one, has GOT to be rough in Australia.

It's fine until you encounter authorities...

...but I always remain calm and firm. I tell them WHY they are fucking up and that I will be pursuing it if they don't stand down.

Authorities are shielded from there lies here too, so I just repeat a few phrases like I do not consent or get off my property or when they threaten me or lie on camera, "are you threatening me" or "are you lying to me"?

Yet I do appreciate them for some things.... like when my son needed to be choppered after his accident, or they came around to allow us to get his personal effects from the crushed vehicle.

Cops are human beings.... but they have too much discretionary power when it comes to their day to day.

Australian cops are fuckwits.

 

[Dove]

He can be a fuckwit and a victim too....

not in the minds of one dimensional thinking potato heads like Lotus

I hate cops... last interaction I had with them, the lead guy was threatening to storm onto my property as I was filming from next to my front door and TAKE my phone if I didn't stop filming them.

I told him he was going to be in a world of shit if he entered my property line and tried to shut off my camera.

So he backed off a lil after I asked if he was "threatening" me.

So I proceed towards my property line...not totally to it, but a safe space between, and he threatens me again... he ACTUALLY CHARGED TOWARDS ME as I was filming, and I didn't flinch ever. He stopped about a foot from my face.

I told him after that "get off my property" so many times it was mind boggling. He tried to ask me questions and I said I don't care....get off my property.

Eventually he did get off my property... I kept filming and suddenly, his partner was shining a spotlight directly at my head. Not a flashlight, but a side torch mounted on the side of the vehicle.

This pissed me off no end. They were trying to kill my video with lighting.

I still managed to use my free hand to shield the spotlight enough just above the phone camera to continue recording.

And then the main arsehole challenged me again... so I up ticked a middle finger and he asked "are you giving us a rude gesture"...


I asked, "rude gesture? Like blinding me with a spotlight to my eyes on my own property?"

Then they drove away.... I had enough video. We called a truce.

Being libertarian....especailly a right leaning one, has GOT to be rough in Australia.

It's fine until you encounter authorities...

...but I always remain calm and firm. I tell them WHY they are fucking up and that I will be pursuing it if they don't stand down.

Authorities are shielded from there lies here too, so I just repeat a few phrases like I do not consent or get off my property or when they threaten me or lie on camera, "are you threatening me" or "are you lying to me"?

Yet I do appreciate them for some things.... like when my son needed to be choppered after his accident, or they came around to allow us to get his personal effects from the crushed vehicle.

Cops are human beings.... but they have too much discretionary power when it comes to their day to day.

Australian cops are fuckwits.

I've had more positive interactions with police than negative ones.

But that one very bad one I had was bad lol. That "mistaken identity" felony stop would have been hard on a normal person. It was traumatizing for someone with ptsd.

I get a spike of anxiety anytime I see a cop. But yeah they are just humans....public servants, and we do need them if we want a truly free AND safe, civil society.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

He can be a fuckwit and a victim too....

not in the minds of one dimensional thinking potato heads like Lotus

I hate cops... last interaction I had with them, the lead guy was threatening to storm onto my property as I was filming from next to my front door and TAKE my phone if I didn't stop filming them.

I told him he was going to be in a world of shit if he entered my property line and tried to shut off my camera.

So he backed off a lil after I asked if he was "threatening" me.

So I proceed towards my property line...not totally to it, but a safe space between, and he threatens me again... he ACTUALLY CHARGED TOWARDS ME as I was filming, and I didn't flinch ever. He stopped about a foot from my face.

I told him after that "get off my property" so many times it was mind boggling. He tried to ask me questions and I said I don't care....get off my property.

Eventually he did get off my property... I kept filming and suddenly, his partner was shining a spotlight directly at my head. Not a flashlight, but a side torch mounted on the side of the vehicle.

This pissed me off no end. They were trying to kill my video with lighting.

I still managed to use my free hand to shield the spotlight enough just above the phone camera to continue recording.

And then the main arsehole challenged me again... so I up ticked a middle finger and he asked "are you giving us a rude gesture"...


I asked, "rude gesture? Like blinding me with a spotlight to my eyes on my own property?"

Then they drove away.... I had enough video. We called a truce.

Being libertarian....especailly a right leaning one, has GOT to be rough in Australia.

It's fine until you encounter authorities...

...but I always remain calm and firm. I tell them WHY they are fucking up and that I will be pursuing it if they don't stand down.

Authorities are shielded from there lies here too, so I just repeat a few phrases like I do not consent or get off my property or when they threaten me or lie on camera, "are you threatening me" or "are you lying to me"?

Yet I do appreciate them for some things.... like when my son needed to be choppered after his accident, or they came around to allow us to get his personal effects from the crushed vehicle.

Cops are human beings.... but they have too much discretionary power when it comes to their day to day.

Australian cops are fuckwits.

I've had more positive interactions with police than negative ones.

But that one very bad one I had was bad lol. That "mistaken identity" felony stop would have been hard on a normal person. It was traumatizing for someone with ptsd.

I get a spike of anxiety anytime I see a cop. But yeah they are just humans....public servants, and we do need them if we want a truly free AND safe, civil society.

Like anything else there are good cops and bad cops.

I've had my fair share of negative interactions with them but overall I understand their value & the difficulty of the job they are asked to do

 

[Dove]

He can be a fuckwit and a victim too....

not in the minds of one dimensional thinking potato heads like Lotus

I hate cops... last interaction I had with them, the lead guy was threatening to storm onto my property as I was filming from next to my front door and TAKE my phone if I didn't stop filming them.

I told him he was going to be in a world of shit if he entered my property line and tried to shut off my camera.

So he backed off a lil after I asked if he was "threatening" me.

So I proceed towards my property line...not totally to it, but a safe space between, and he threatens me again... he ACTUALLY CHARGED TOWARDS ME as I was filming, and I didn't flinch ever. He stopped about a foot from my face.

I told him after that "get off my property" so many times it was mind boggling. He tried to ask me questions and I said I don't care....get off my property.

Eventually he did get off my property... I kept filming and suddenly, his partner was shining a spotlight directly at my head. Not a flashlight, but a side torch mounted on the side of the vehicle.

This pissed me off no end. They were trying to kill my video with lighting.

I still managed to use my free hand to shield the spotlight enough just above the phone camera to continue recording.

And then the main arsehole challenged me again... so I up ticked a middle finger and he asked "are you giving us a rude gesture"...


I asked, "rude gesture? Like blinding me with a spotlight to my eyes on my own property?"

Then they drove away.... I had enough video. We called a truce.

Being libertarian....especailly a right leaning one, has GOT to be rough in Australia.

It's fine until you encounter authorities...

...but I always remain calm and firm. I tell them WHY they are fucking up and that I will be pursuing it if they don't stand down.

Authorities are shielded from there lies here too, so I just repeat a few phrases like I do not consent or get off my property or when they threaten me or lie on camera, "are you threatening me" or "are you lying to me"?

Yet I do appreciate them for some things.... like when my son needed to be choppered after his accident, or they came around to allow us to get his personal effects from the crushed vehicle.

Cops are human beings.... but they have too much discretionary power when it comes to their day to day.

Australian cops are fuckwits.

I've had more positive interactions with police than negative ones.

But that one very bad one I had was bad lol. That "mistaken identity" felony stop would have been hard on a normal person. It was traumatizing for someone with ptsd.

I get a spike of anxiety anytime I see a cop. But yeah they are just humans....public servants, and we do need them if we want a truly free AND safe, civil society.

Like anything else there are good cops and bad cops.

I've had my fair share of negative interactions with them but overall I understand their value & the difficulty of the job they are asked to do

Exactly. And even if you are getting confronted with a real shitty one and he is totally in the wrong.. .....you DONT fight him in the damn street.

You talk to him with respect, cooperate, and you fight that shit in court where the fight is supposed to happen.

And you do this because you value living in a free and cohesive society where we have individual rights.

There is a very good reason they want your hands in view at all times until they have established you are not going to attack them.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

He can be a fuckwit and a victim too....

not in the minds of one dimensional thinking potato heads like Lotus

I hate cops... last interaction I had with them, the lead guy was threatening to storm onto my property as I was filming from next to my front door and TAKE my phone if I didn't stop filming them.

I told him he was going to be in a world of shit if he entered my property line and tried to shut off my camera.

So he backed off a lil after I asked if he was "threatening" me.

So I proceed towards my property line...not totally to it, but a safe space between, and he threatens me again... he ACTUALLY CHARGED TOWARDS ME as I was filming, and I didn't flinch ever. He stopped about a foot from my face.

I told him after that "get off my property" so many times it was mind boggling. He tried to ask me questions and I said I don't care....get off my property.

Eventually he did get off my property... I kept filming and suddenly, his partner was shining a spotlight directly at my head. Not a flashlight, but a side torch mounted on the side of the vehicle.

This pissed me off no end. They were trying to kill my video with lighting.

I still managed to use my free hand to shield the spotlight enough just above the phone camera to continue recording.

And then the main arsehole challenged me again... so I up ticked a middle finger and he asked "are you giving us a rude gesture"...


I asked, "rude gesture? Like blinding me with a spotlight to my eyes on my own property?"

Then they drove away.... I had enough video. We called a truce.

Being libertarian....especailly a right leaning one, has GOT to be rough in Australia.

It's fine until you encounter authorities...

...but I always remain calm and firm. I tell them WHY they are fucking up and that I will be pursuing it if they don't stand down.

Authorities are shielded from there lies here too, so I just repeat a few phrases like I do not consent or get off my property or when they threaten me or lie on camera, "are you threatening me" or "are you lying to me"?

Yet I do appreciate them for some things.... like when my son needed to be choppered after his accident, or they came around to allow us to get his personal effects from the crushed vehicle.

Cops are human beings.... but they have too much discretionary power when it comes to their day to day.

Australian cops are fuckwits.

I've had more positive interactions with police than negative ones.

But that one very bad one I had was bad lol. That "mistaken identity" felony stop would have been hard on a normal person. It was traumatizing for someone with ptsd.

I get a spike of anxiety anytime I see a cop. But yeah they are just humans....public servants, and we do need them if we want a truly free AND safe, civil society.

Like anything else there are good cops and bad cops.

I've had my fair share of negative interactions with them but overall I understand their value & the difficulty of the job they are asked to do

Exactly. And even if you are getting confronted with a real shitty one and he is totally in the wrong.. .....you DONT fight him the damn street.

You talk to him with respect, cooperate, and you fight that shit in court where the fight is supposed to happen.

And you do this because you value living in a free and cohesive society where we have individual rights.

There is a very good reason they want your hands in view at all times until they have established you are not going to attack them.

Notice MORE black people dying after white liberals have been egging them on to believe in this systemic racism crap?

I Have.

 

[Frood]

He can be a fuckwit and a victim too....

not in the minds of one dimensional thinking potato heads like Lotus

I hate cops... last interaction I had with them, the lead guy was threatening to storm onto my property as I was filming from next to my front door and TAKE my phone if I didn't stop filming them.

I told him he was going to be in a world of shit if he entered my property line and tried to shut off my camera.

So he backed off a lil after I asked if he was "threatening" me.

So I proceed towards my property line...not totally to it, but a safe space between, and he threatens me again... he ACTUALLY CHARGED TOWARDS ME as I was filming, and I didn't flinch ever. He stopped about a foot from my face.

I told him after that "get off my property" so many times it was mind boggling. He tried to ask me questions and I said I don't care....get off my property.

Eventually he did get off my property... I kept filming and suddenly, his partner was shining a spotlight directly at my head. Not a flashlight, but a side torch mounted on the side of the vehicle.

This pissed me off no end. They were trying to kill my video with lighting.

I still managed to use my free hand to shield the spotlight enough just above the phone camera to continue recording.

And then the main arsehole challenged me again... so I up ticked a middle finger and he asked "are you giving us a rude gesture"...


I asked, "rude gesture? Like blinding me with a spotlight to my eyes on my own property?"

Then they drove away.... I had enough video. We called a truce.

Being libertarian....especailly a right leaning one, has GOT to be rough in Australia.

It's fine until you encounter authorities...

...but I always remain calm and firm. I tell them WHY they are fucking up and that I will be pursuing it if they don't stand down.

Authorities are shielded from there lies here too, so I just repeat a few phrases like I do not consent or get off my property or when they threaten me or lie on camera, "are you threatening me" or "are you lying to me"?

Yet I do appreciate them for some things.... like when my son needed to be choppered after his accident, or they came around to allow us to get his personal effects from the crushed vehicle.

Cops are human beings.... but they have too much discretionary power when it comes to their day to day.

Australian cops are fuckwits.

I've had more positive interactions with police than negative ones.

But that one very bad one I had was bad lol. That "mistaken identity" felony stop would have been hard on a normal person. It was traumatizing for someone with ptsd.

I get a spike of anxiety anytime I see a cop. But yeah they are just humans....public servants, and we do need them if we want a truly free AND safe, civil society.

Like anything else there are good cops and bad cops.

I've had my fair share of negative interactions with them but overall I understand their value & the difficulty of the job they are asked to do

But we see the differences between the power trippers and humble. Most cops are not humble in a stop. Most cops are absolute cocksuckers in an involuntary stop. There's no politeness...no respect... no anything except total dominance on their parts.

Say nothing wrong and you might get away with nothing. Say something they don't like, even if it is your legal right, and you could be charged with numerous offences.

That's why I generally hate cops. Different standards and by their discretions or lack of, different results.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

Malcolm X had white dirtbag liberal shits like lotus pegged to a Tee.

 

[Dove]

He can be a fuckwit and a victim too....

not in the minds of one dimensional thinking potato heads like Lotus

I hate cops... last interaction I had with them, the lead guy was threatening to storm onto my property as I was filming from next to my front door and TAKE my phone if I didn't stop filming them.

I told him he was going to be in a world of shit if he entered my property line and tried to shut off my camera.

So he backed off a lil after I asked if he was "threatening" me.

So I proceed towards my property line...not totally to it, but a safe space between, and he threatens me again... he ACTUALLY CHARGED TOWARDS ME as I was filming, and I didn't flinch ever. He stopped about a foot from my face.

I told him after that "get off my property" so many times it was mind boggling. He tried to ask me questions and I said I don't care....get off my property.

Eventually he did get off my property... I kept filming and suddenly, his partner was shining a spotlight directly at my head. Not a flashlight, but a side torch mounted on the side of the vehicle.

This pissed me off no end. They were trying to kill my video with lighting.

I still managed to use my free hand to shield the spotlight enough just above the phone camera to continue recording.

And then the main arsehole challenged me again... so I up ticked a middle finger and he asked "are you giving us a rude gesture"...


I asked, "rude gesture? Like blinding me with a spotlight to my eyes on my own property?"

Then they drove away.... I had enough video. We called a truce.

Being libertarian....especailly a right leaning one, has GOT to be rough in Australia.

It's fine until you encounter authorities...

...but I always remain calm and firm. I tell them WHY they are fucking up and that I will be pursuing it if they don't stand down.

Authorities are shielded from there lies here too, so I just repeat a few phrases like I do not consent or get off my property or when they threaten me or lie on camera, "are you threatening me" or "are you lying to me"?

Yet I do appreciate them for some things.... like when my son needed to be choppered after his accident, or they came around to allow us to get his personal effects from the crushed vehicle.

Cops are human beings.... but they have too much discretionary power when it comes to their day to day.

Australian cops are fuckwits.

I've had more positive interactions with police than negative ones.

But that one very bad one I had was bad lol. That "mistaken identity" felony stop would have been hard on a normal person. It was traumatizing for someone with ptsd.

I get a spike of anxiety anytime I see a cop. But yeah they are just humans....public servants, and we do need them if we want a truly free AND safe, civil society.

Like anything else there are good cops and bad cops.

I've had my fair share of negative interactions with them but overall I understand their value & the difficulty of the job they are asked to do

Exactly. And even if you are getting confronted with a real shitty one and he is totally in the wrong.. .....you DONT fight him the damn street.

You talk to him with respect, cooperate, and you fight that shit in court where the fight is supposed to happen.

And you do this because you value living in a free and cohesive society where we have individual rights.

There is a very good reason they want your hands in view at all times until they have established you are not going to attack them.

Notice MORE black people dying after white liberals have been egging them on to believe in this systemic racism crap?

I Have.

Yes I have and I take every opportunity to fuss about it.

The vast amounts of incredible damage from these riots is overwhelming. These people are so lacking in fundamental empathy and stick to their narratives and feelings of superiority no matter who gets harmed or killed.

900 some excess deaths because of the riots. Fucking 900 some excess deaths.

That's over 900. People dead from being present at these riots or dead because police are overwhelmed with riot activity.....leaving residents very vulnerable and criminals who know and take advantage. Rapes, murders, theft. People dead because medical first responders couldnt get to them as fast and are also overwhelmed.

And the property destruction. It's going to drive decades of deeper poverty.

They just dont give a fuck. They like how they feel "fighting" and that's all they care about. They are literally killing the very people they are pretending to care about.

And you see how some react with hatred and rage when you invade their civil rights heros larp with any sort of reality.

 

[Oerdin]

you think a kid should have let himself be murdered

You know what I think (?) - I think his parents should have prevented him from carrying a weapon (which he was not legally authorized to carry) across state lines into a volatile situation. If he was there to put out fires and lend medical assistance, which he also would be doing on no authority) then you do not need a weapon for that. Never heard of shooting a fire out. Thirdly - the people who he shot were the ones trying to defend themselves, trying only to disarm him since he had already shot at someone. KR is guilty of willful homicide.

You got basic facts of the case wrong.
1) He was legally carrying the firearm in question
2) The rifle belonged to his friend and never crossed any state lines.
3) He most certainly needed a firearm as drugged out kunatics from other states descended upon his town to destroy it. He worked in that town and lived 5 minutes away.
4) Antifa fired first.
5) Another antifa ran up to Kyle and attempted to do him bodily harm while Kyle tried to run away, repeatedly.
6) It was only when cornered and threatened with death that Kyle took defensive action to save his life.

I always see ignorant people mouthing off the most. They don't know basic facts yet babble loudest for some reason.

 

[Oerdin]

He can be a fuckwit and a victim too....

not in the minds of one dimensional thinking potato heads like Lotus

I hate cops... last interaction I had with them, the lead guy was threatening to storm onto my property as I was filming from next to my front door and TAKE my phone if I didn't stop filming them.

I told him he was going to be in a world of shit if he entered my property line and tried to shut off my camera.

So he backed off a lil after I asked if he was "threatening" me.

So I proceed towards my property line...not totally to it, but a safe space between, and he threatens me again... he ACTUALLY CHARGED TOWARDS ME as I was filming, and I didn't flinch ever. He stopped about a foot from my face.

I told him after that "get off my property" so many times it was mind boggling. He tried to ask me questions and I said I don't care....get off my property.

Eventually he did get off my property... I kept filming and suddenly, his partner was shining a spotlight directly at my head. Not a flashlight, but a side torch mounted on the side of the vehicle.

This pissed me off no end. They were trying to kill my video with lighting.

I still managed to use my free hand to shield the spotlight enough just above the phone camera to continue recording.

And then the main arsehole challenged me again... so I up ticked a middle finger and he asked "are you giving us a rude gesture"...


I asked, "rude gesture? Like blinding me with a spotlight to my eyes on my own property?"

Then they drove away.... I had enough video. We called a truce.

Being libertarian....especailly a right leaning one, has GOT to be rough in Australia.

It's fine until you encounter authorities...

...but I always remain calm and firm. I tell them WHY they are fucking up and that I will be pursuing it if they don't stand down.

Authorities are shielded from there lies here too, so I just repeat a few phrases like I do not consent or get off my property or when they threaten me or lie on camera, "are you threatening me" or "are you lying to me"?

Yet I do appreciate them for some things.... like when my son needed to be choppered after his accident, or they came around to allow us to get his personal effects from the crushed vehicle.

Cops are human beings.... but they have too much discretionary power when it comes to their day to day.

Australian cops are fuckwits.

I've had more positive interactions with police than negative ones.

But that one very bad one I had was bad lol. That "mistaken identity" felony stop would have been hard on a normal person. It was traumatizing for someone with ptsd.

I get a spike of anxiety anytime I see a cop. But yeah they are just humans....public servants, and we do need them if we want a truly free AND safe, civil society.

Like anything else there are good cops and bad cops.

I've had my fair share of negative interactions with them but overall I understand their value & the difficulty of the job they are asked to do

Exactly. And even if you are getting confronted with a real shitty one and he is totally in the wrong.. .....you DONT fight him the damn street.

You talk to him with respect, cooperate, and you fight that shit in court where the fight is supposed to happen.

And you do this because you value living in a free and cohesive society where we have individual rights.

There is a very good reason they want your hands in view at all times until they have established you are not going to attack them.

Notice MORE black people dying after white liberals have been egging them on to believe in this systemic racism crap?

I Have.

Yes I have and I take every opportunity to fuss about it.

The vast amounts of incredible damage from these riots is overwhelming. These people are so lacking in fundamental empathy and stick to their narratives and feelings of superiority no matter who gets harmed or killed.

900 some excess deaths because of the riots. Fucking 900 some excess deaths.

That's over 900. People dead from being present at these riots or dead because police are overwhelmed with riot activity.....leaving residents very vulnerable and criminals who know and take advantage. Rapes, murders, theft. People dead because medical first responders couldnt get to them as fast and are also overwhelmed.

And the property destruction. It's going to drive decades of deeper poverty.

They just dont give a fuck. They like how they feel "fighting" and that's all they care about. They are literally killing the very people they are pretending to care about.

And you see how some react with hatred and rage when you invade their civil rights heros larp with any sort of reality.

I would really like to see a source for the 900 excessive deaths figure. I believe it to be true but would like to use it on another forum and will need a source for it.

 

[LotusBud]

you think a kid should have let himself be murdered

You know what I think (?) - I think his parents should have prevented him from carrying a weapon (which he was not legally authorized to carry) across state lines into a volatile situation. If he was there to put out fires and lend medical assistance, which he also would be doing on no authority) then you do not need a weapon for that. Never heard of shooting a fire out. Thirdly - the people who he shot were the ones trying to defend themselves, trying only to disarm him since he had already shot at someone. KR is guilty of willful homicide.

You got basic facts of the case wrong.
1) He was legally carrying the firearm in question
2) The rifle belonged to his friend and never crossed any state lines.
3) He most certainly needed a firearm as drugged out kunatics from other states descended upon his town to destroy it. He worked in that town and lived 5 minutes away.
4) Antifa fired first.
5) Another antifa ran up to Kyle and attempted to do him bodily harm while Kyle tried to run away, repeatedly.
6) It was only when cornered and threatened with death that Kyle took defensive action to save his life.

I always see ignorant people mouthing off the most. They don't know basic facts yet babble loudest for some reason.

Pure bullshit.

 

[Blazor]

you think a kid should have let himself be murdered

You know what I think (?) - I think his parents should have prevented him from carrying a weapon (which he was not legally authorized to carry) across state lines into a volatile situation. If he was there to put out fires and lend medical assistance, which he also would be doing on no authority) then you do not need a weapon for that. Never heard of shooting a fire out. Thirdly - the people who he shot were the ones trying to defend themselves, trying only to disarm him since he had already shot at someone. KR is guilty of willful homicide.

You got basic facts of the case wrong.
1) He was legally carrying the firearm in question
2) The rifle belonged to his friend and never crossed any state lines.
3) He most certainly needed a firearm as drugged out kunatics from other states descended upon his town to destroy it. He worked in that town and lived 5 minutes away.
4) Antifa fired first.
5) Another antifa ran up to Kyle and attempted to do him bodily harm while Kyle tried to run away, repeatedly.
6) It was only when cornered and threatened with death that Kyle took defensive action to save his life.

I always see ignorant people mouthing off the most. They don't know basic facts yet babble loudest for some reason.

Pure bullshit.

 

[Frood]

you think a kid should have let himself be murdered

You know what I think (?) - I think his parents should have prevented him from carrying a weapon (which he was not legally authorized to carry) across state lines into a volatile situation. If he was there to put out fires and lend medical assistance, which he also would be doing on no authority) then you do not need a weapon for that. Never heard of shooting a fire out. Thirdly - the people who he shot were the ones trying to defend themselves, trying only to disarm him since he had already shot at someone. KR is guilty of willful homicide.

You got basic facts of the case wrong.
1) He was legally carrying the firearm in question
2) The rifle belonged to his friend and never crossed any state lines.
3) He most certainly needed a firearm as drugged out kunatics from other states descended upon his town to destroy it. He worked in that town and lived 5 minutes away.
4) Antifa fired first.
5) Another antifa ran up to Kyle and attempted to do him bodily harm while Kyle tried to run away, repeatedly.
6) It was only when cornered and threatened with death that Kyle took defensive action to save his life.

I always see ignorant people mouthing off the most. They don't know basic facts yet babble loudest for some reason.

Pure bullshit.

You're pure bullshit.

 

[Dove]

I mean back when I was getting my degree in ECD, when I went away to college on the other side of my state.....I started seeing how these leftists do not truly care about other people.

They manipulate and gaslight a lot. I still voted for some democrat politicains before i caught on to the problem, sure. But progressives put me off a long time ago.

So the lack of care they have doesnt surprise me.....but the depth of that lack of care does.

You would think seeing communities of vulnerable people.....people who dont have much and who have to work so hard to survive and have what they do have.... being destroyed and burned would give these asshole pause.

And if that didnt, surely brutalizing innocent people would? No. Shooting little children and attempts to burn kids alive? No. Politicains and corporatists supporting it? Nope.

These people are heartless, viscious partisan tools who have become worse than everything they claim to oppose. Nothing speaks louder than what they dont say. What they stay silent on. What they minimize.

They have no credibility, no compassion, and their platform was built with pure hatred.

How can anyone see the faces of all the babies and children that are dead today because of their "cIvIl rIgHtS!" Larp? How can anyone get mad that a cop saved the life of a young girl who was about to be stabbed in the neck?

All they are is narrative. They've lost all sense of humanity. Just the nasty hateful way they talk to people who try to respectfully engage them. Just asking them to clarify or expound will trigger their hatefulness. They'll call your points bullshit but they never ever provide their reasons.

Why should they bother trying to be understood or gain support when now if you dont support them you'll just get attacked, fired, booted from school or censored.