~ Murdy’s Advice Column ~

[Murdy]

How the fuck did my thread get turned into a political debate?

@Bastard Factory

I directly responded to other posters including you but, if you want, I suppose we could break off that discussion into a different thread and continue in the discussion in the politics forum.

KEEP. THE. POLITICAL. DISCUSSIONS. OFF. EVERY. THREAD. ON. THE. GENERAL. DISCUSSIONS. BOARD.

MMMK?

 

[Frood]

What a drama llama control freak...

Typical Democrat....

 

[Dove]

There is no legal case here, Joe. He sounds like a dick though.

I guess he didnt trust your check for whatever reason. But there is nothing here a court would give a shit about. You got your part, he got his money, the job was done.

You have your bank statement where you withdrew the money? He just flat out wont give you a receipt? (Honestly that's not damages....its just annoying)

...I'm not entirely sure why this person is reluctant to furnish a receipt.
It may have to do with his ex-wife & past child support payments he has been ordered to make by the Government.
So perhaps a share of his revenues (or all?) must be paid to his ex.
The man had 8 children by her from his first marriage.
What followed was a domestic dispute where he was kicked out of own home and a court case which went against him.
He was ordered by the government to pay thousands of dollars in child support.
A number of years ago, he told me that he owes over $30,000 to her in back payments.

Now I don't want to be vindictive, I just want the man to furnish me with a damn receipt.

I have a lawyer lined up for this purpose to contact him if he deson't comply.
I sent him a formal request by email to furnish a receipt.
But if that doesn't work, I'll have the lawyer send him a request for the receipt.

Now if that doesn't work, should I use 'the Nuclear option' - that is contact the government and family support services?

Y'know what was peculiar about this situation is when I was picking up my computer he was holding it hostage as if her were still in some custody support battle. And then he told me it was necessary to retain some of my possessions for collateral because a past client I never met or knew, didn't pay him. But I had nothing to do with that incident and it occurered perhaps 10 or 20 years ago.

It was like "you won't get your ocmputer back until you pay me in full."

I knew this guy for 7 years. I went out to social events with him, shared good times.

I thought he was my friend.

I didn't really care about the money actually.

I still don't. I'm just trying to keep track of my expenses and to prevent future claims by him that he wasn't paid or that he discounted my fees.

That's all I'm after. It's just for liability purposes and protection.

I'm not seeking any financial compensation although I was charged for services not performed and software Id din't get to own. And he took a small item I let him for testing purposes.

Is he licensed? I would need to see the actual contract to determine if it was breached.

If this is valued under $5k, you can sue him in small claims court. You would need to send him a certified letter mapping out the terms of the work he was to perform, methods of payment (cash and post dated check) and demand the property back placing a monetary value of what it’s worth and then demand the TOTAL of what you are owed be paid within 30 days. Keep the certified return receipt and then you can sue him.

PM me if you have further questions and good luck!

It is not worth the time, effort, or cash to bother with a small claims court case.

I really just want the receipt. I figger I paid for the job, so I should own the the receipt too.

It's really so that this individual doesn't make false claims against me about non-payment or spreads false rumors int he future.

he kept the licensing to the software too… how much did the software cost?

About $60 USD

ok so that’s also a damage you can recover….

You need to take all the emotion out of this and go sit down and write out what happened. Itemize everything you paid him and everything that wasn’t returned, everything that wasn’t done correctly… go get an estimate from someone who does this type of work to determine what it’s going to cost to get the computer where he was supposed to get it (including having licensed software) and make a 30 day formal demd for payment as I’ve outlined. You can also outline the small claims court filing fee and say you will seek reimbursement of that if you have to take this to court. The problem with small claims court is you have to make the 30 day demand and outline ALL of the expenses or you have no case.

thanks. The rules may be a bit different in Canada, but I'll look into it.

I don't really care about the money or a blinkin' mouse. I just want the receipt.

But maybe I gotta go the whole 9 nine yars just to get the receipt.

why you want the receipt so bad? Tax write off or something?

write your own fucking receipt if that's the case

I just have the invoice for the services I was billed for

You seem to have or are in this tech consulting business.

What would you do?

What's the proper procedure for billing and getting receipt for payment?

I just don't trust the guy ever since he a pulled a fast one like that. That's the reason I want the receipt.

Tech consulting is no different than the automotive business when it comes to drafting receipts.

I really only skimmed several posts here because, well, I enjoy conflict and sitting around a camp fire holding hands while smiling at one another politely in ~ Murdy's Snooze Column ~ isn't my cup of tea. Sorry Murd.

That said, as I was scrolling past one of your lengthier posts I did happen to notice the guy is giving you pirated software. is that correct?

Well then, software vendors do have a remedy for this kind of stuff which can come with some heavy penalties and fines. that's probably your best avenue

I would threaten to report them as he does not want to be reported. Tell him, I want a receipt and the return of my property, do that and I will agree not to report you. Fail to do that in 72 hours and I will report you causing you lots of problems. My guess is that he will agree that simply giving you a receipt is his least costly option and so go with it.

Snall claims court remains a waste of time. I still have a dead beat who owes me half a year's rent which she was able to pay but decided not to pay even though she was illegally subletting in violation of her lease. I will never see that money and the only option is do I sue her just to fuck her over knowing I will just be sinking good money after bad?

that is blackmail

But is that illegal? Is it wrong?

I was considering that as an option.

Either contacting Canada's equivalent of the IRS or Family Services.

I know he owes a lot of money to his Ex & his payments to her are monitored by the government here.

I don't want to be that ruthless.

I just want the receipt.

I ran out with two of my daughters (the little one and the teenager) and we stopped at Starbucks(I know, right? I'm not a Starbucks person, i think it's over priced total shit but eh.....I'm having a thing right now).

So my teen suddenly asked me why my receipt said "cumfrap"

And I dont know. But I dont think I'm going back.

It is written in Starbucks language. My ex worked there, I may be able to decipher it....

Green vanilla bean cream frappachino? It says Cream frap, not cumfap hahaha.

It was a grande vanilla bean frappuccino :D

 

[Murdy]

Murdy’s Advice to @Joe

Never pay anyone cash. There are plenty of apps like Zele and Venmo that can keep a record of cash transactions for you. That is all

Cash is for drug dealers and prostitution houses

anyone still paying cash nowadays deserves to get ripped the fuck off

It’s always a pattern with people like this too… shady assholes. If you sue them there is a paper trail so other people who do business with them can research and decide what’s best. Judgements are NO joke.

I don't even buy coffee with cash anymore

The only time I will use cash is when I need some hick to come mow my grass or shave a tree down. And even then I'm more apt to writing a check

I only use cash...the Australian government is tracking all transactions supposedly for covid.

I also leave all electronic devices at home.

I put all my bill money in the bank, the rest goes in my wallet. I use cash on all expenses that are not bills. I dont like being tracked either. Nobody needs to know what the fuck I bought at the store.

Man, I been debating leaving my phone home lately too. I do realize now after Jan 6th that there are times not to have your phone on you. Lil fuckers can listen in and shit anyway.

Patty Paranoia, party of one…. your conspiracy is ready

Thats not very good advice Murdy lol. Amazing how a lot of these "conspiracy theories" have come true.

Its already been proven long ago, that they can indeed tap into your devices connected to the internet and activate your mic or even your camera. Same with tracking your purchases, and tracking your movements via GPS with your phone.

I know… I was just messing with you.

But unless you’re on the FBI’s most wanted list, why would they need to is my only point here.

Dont you remember the Obama IRS Tea Party scandal? Was Trump on the FBI list when they were listening in on him before the 2016 election? They target anyone they deem their enemy.

You just listen to me sugar bum, you'll be more woke than a triple expresso at a BLM event!

I really don’t recall reading about this tbh…

But surveillance is expensive and unless you’re a bigwig like the example you provided or file a workers comp claim for a serious back injury that requires surgery, you’re off for 9 months and then go golfing everyday, why would anyone care????

Yes, it is possible. No, it’s not healthy to feed into these paranoid delusions. Talk yourself off the ledge.

Surveillance these days is cheap and easy...even automatic in most cases. The data gets logged whether you're considered a person of suspicion or not. Every transaction, every movement, phone call, text, email, payment.

It's not paranoia to acknowledge it.

BULLSHIT

You need at least cameras installed for surveillance, they aren’t cheap, and the only people who have them installed are vendors who will not hand the footage over without a subpoena.

Keep your bullshit's to yourself.

Cameras are everywhere and they're not the sole method of surveillance anyway. Larger cities have pivoted to the China model.

If you don't understand something, I suggest you remain silent on it.

Except I just explained why they are installed and how someone can obtain the footage… you’re just too paranoid to want to grasp this simple concept that the video footage is not public record and therefore cannot be obtained without a court order *rolls eyes*

You are too herd mentality for me.

 

[Murdy]

What a drama llama control freak...

Typical Democrat....

go back and hide under your rock

 

[Frood]

Murdy’s Advice to @Joe

Never pay anyone cash. There are plenty of apps like Zele and Venmo that can keep a record of cash transactions for you. That is all

Cash is for drug dealers and prostitution houses

anyone still paying cash nowadays deserves to get ripped the fuck off

It’s always a pattern with people like this too… shady assholes. If you sue them there is a paper trail so other people who do business with them can research and decide what’s best. Judgements are NO joke.

I don't even buy coffee with cash anymore

The only time I will use cash is when I need some hick to come mow my grass or shave a tree down. And even then I'm more apt to writing a check

I only use cash...the Australian government is tracking all transactions supposedly for covid.

I also leave all electronic devices at home.

I put all my bill money in the bank, the rest goes in my wallet. I use cash on all expenses that are not bills. I dont like being tracked either. Nobody needs to know what the fuck I bought at the store.

Man, I been debating leaving my phone home lately too. I do realize now after Jan 6th that there are times not to have your phone on you. Lil fuckers can listen in and shit anyway.

Patty Paranoia, party of one…. your conspiracy is ready

Thats not very good advice Murdy lol. Amazing how a lot of these "conspiracy theories" have come true.

Its already been proven long ago, that they can indeed tap into your devices connected to the internet and activate your mic or even your camera. Same with tracking your purchases, and tracking your movements via GPS with your phone.

I know… I was just messing with you.

But unless you’re on the FBI’s most wanted list, why would they need to is my only point here.

Dont you remember the Obama IRS Tea Party scandal? Was Trump on the FBI list when they were listening in on him before the 2016 election? They target anyone they deem their enemy.

You just listen to me sugar bum, you'll be more woke than a triple expresso at a BLM event!

I really don’t recall reading about this tbh…

But surveillance is expensive and unless you’re a bigwig like the example you provided or file a workers comp claim for a serious back injury that requires surgery, you’re off for 9 months and then go golfing everyday, why would anyone care????

Yes, it is possible. No, it’s not healthy to feed into these paranoid delusions. Talk yourself off the ledge.

Surveillance these days is cheap and easy...even automatic in most cases. The data gets logged whether you're considered a person of suspicion or not. Every transaction, every movement, phone call, text, email, payment.

It's not paranoia to acknowledge it.

BULLSHIT

You need at least cameras installed for surveillance, they aren’t cheap, and the only people who have them installed are vendors who will not hand the footage over without a subpoena.

Keep your bullshit's to yourself.

Cameras are everywhere and they're not the sole method of surveillance anyway. Larger cities have pivoted to the China model.

If you don't understand something, I suggest you remain silent on it.

Except I just explained why they are installed and how someone can obtain the footage… you’re just too paranoid to want to grasp this simple concept that the video footage is not public record and therefore cannot be obtained without a court order *rolls eyes*

You are too herd mentality for me.

You're awfully naive.

Glad you're not my lawyer.

 

[Frood]

What a drama llama control freak...

Typical Democrat....

go back and hide under your rock

Said the garden gnome ^^^

 

[Seamajor]

I believe this is a neutral thread. ^^^^^

 

[Frood]

^^^ I believe someone has selective viewing.

 

[Murdy]

There is no legal case here, Joe. He sounds like a dick though.

I guess he didnt trust your check for whatever reason. But there is nothing here a court would give a shit about. You got your part, he got his money, the job was done.

You have your bank statement where you withdrew the money? He just flat out wont give you a receipt? (Honestly that's not damages....its just annoying)

...I'm not entirely sure why this person is reluctant to furnish a receipt.
It may have to do with his ex-wife & past child support payments he has been ordered to make by the Government.
So perhaps a share of his revenues (or all?) must be paid to his ex.
The man had 8 children by her from his first marriage.
What followed was a domestic dispute where he was kicked out of own home and a court case which went against him.
He was ordered by the government to pay thousands of dollars in child support.
A number of years ago, he told me that he owes over $30,000 to her in back payments.

Now I don't want to be vindictive, I just want the man to furnish me with a damn receipt.

I have a lawyer lined up for this purpose to contact him if he deson't comply.
I sent him a formal request by email to furnish a receipt.
But if that doesn't work, I'll have the lawyer send him a request for the receipt.

Now if that doesn't work, should I use 'the Nuclear option' - that is contact the government and family support services?

Y'know what was peculiar about this situation is when I was picking up my computer he was holding it hostage as if her were still in some custody support battle. And then he told me it was necessary to retain some of my possessions for collateral because a past client I never met or knew, didn't pay him. But I had nothing to do with that incident and it occurered perhaps 10 or 20 years ago.

It was like "you won't get your ocmputer back until you pay me in full."

I knew this guy for 7 years. I went out to social events with him, shared good times.

I thought he was my friend.

I didn't really care about the money actually.

I still don't. I'm just trying to keep track of my expenses and to prevent future claims by him that he wasn't paid or that he discounted my fees.

That's all I'm after. It's just for liability purposes and protection.

I'm not seeking any financial compensation although I was charged for services not performed and software Id din't get to own. And he took a small item I let him for testing purposes.

Is he licensed? I would need to see the actual contract to determine if it was breached.

If this is valued under $5k, you can sue him in small claims court. You would need to send him a certified letter mapping out the terms of the work he was to perform, methods of payment (cash and post dated check) and demand the property back placing a monetary value of what it’s worth and then demand the TOTAL of what you are owed be paid within 30 days. Keep the certified return receipt and then you can sue him.

PM me if you have further questions and good luck!

It is not worth the time, effort, or cash to bother with a small claims court case.

I really just want the receipt. I figger I paid for the job, so I should own the the receipt too.

It's really so that this individual doesn't make false claims against me about non-payment or spreads false rumors int he future.

he kept the licensing to the software too… how much did the software cost?

About $60 USD

ok so that’s also a damage you can recover….

You need to take all the emotion out of this and go sit down and write out what happened. Itemize everything you paid him and everything that wasn’t returned, everything that wasn’t done correctly… go get an estimate from someone who does this type of work to determine what it’s going to cost to get the computer where he was supposed to get it (including having licensed software) and make a 30 day formal demd for payment as I’ve outlined. You can also outline the small claims court filing fee and say you will seek reimbursement of that if you have to take this to court. The problem with small claims court is you have to make the 30 day demand and outline ALL of the expenses or you have no case.

thanks. The rules may be a bit different in Canada, but I'll look into it.

I don't really care about the money or a blinkin' mouse. I just want the receipt.

But maybe I gotta go the whole 9 nine yars just to get the receipt.

why you want the receipt so bad? Tax write off or something?

write your own fucking receipt if that's the case

I just have the invoice for the services I was billed for

You seem to have or are in this tech consulting business.

What would you do?

What's the proper procedure for billing and getting receipt for payment?

I just don't trust the guy ever since he a pulled a fast one like that. That's the reason I want the receipt.

Tech consulting is no different than the automotive business when it comes to drafting receipts.

I really only skimmed several posts here because, well, I enjoy conflict and sitting around a camp fire holding hands while smiling at one another politely in ~ Murdy's Snooze Column ~ isn't my cup of tea. Sorry Murd.

That said, as I was scrolling past one of your lengthier posts I did happen to notice the guy is giving you pirated software. is that correct?

Well then, software vendors do have a remedy for this kind of stuff which can come with some heavy penalties and fines. that's probably your best avenue

I would threaten to report them as he does not want to be reported. Tell him, I want a receipt and the return of my property, do that and I will agree not to report you. Fail to do that in 72 hours and I will report you causing you lots of problems. My guess is that he will agree that simply giving you a receipt is his least costly option and so go with it.

Snall claims court remains a waste of time. I still have a dead beat who owes me half a year's rent which she was able to pay but decided not to pay even though she was illegally subletting in violation of her lease. I will never see that money and the only option is do I sue her just to fuck her over knowing I will just be sinking good money after bad?

that is blackmail

But is that illegal? Is it wrong?

I was considering that as an option.

Either contacting Canada's equivalent of the IRS or Family Services.

I know he owes a lot of money to his Ex & his payments to her are monitored by the government here.

I don't want to be that ruthless.

I just want the receipt.

I ran out with two of my daughters (the little one and the teenager) and we stopped at Starbucks(I know, right? I'm not a Starbucks person, i think it's over priced total shit but eh.....I'm having a thing right now).

So my teen suddenly asked me why my receipt said "cumfrap"

And I dont know. But I dont think I'm going back.

It is written in Starbucks language. My ex worked there, I may be able to decipher it....

Green vanilla bean cream frappachino? It says Cream frap, not cumfap hahaha.

It was a grande vanilla bean frappuccino :D

how xire

Murdy’s Advice to @Joe

Never pay anyone cash. There are plenty of apps like Zele and Venmo that can keep a record of cash transactions for you. That is all

Cash is for drug dealers and prostitution houses

anyone still paying cash nowadays deserves to get ripped the fuck off

It’s always a pattern with people like this too… shady assholes. If you sue them there is a paper trail so other people who do business with them can research and decide what’s best. Judgements are NO joke.

I don't even buy coffee with cash anymore

The only time I will use cash is when I need some hick to come mow my grass or shave a tree down. And even then I'm more apt to writing a check

I only use cash...the Australian government is tracking all transactions supposedly for covid.

I also leave all electronic devices at home.

I put all my bill money in the bank, the rest goes in my wallet. I use cash on all expenses that are not bills. I dont like being tracked either. Nobody needs to know what the fuck I bought at the store.

Man, I been debating leaving my phone home lately too. I do realize now after Jan 6th that there are times not to have your phone on you. Lil fuckers can listen in and shit anyway.

Patty Paranoia, party of one…. your conspiracy is ready

Thats not very good advice Murdy lol. Amazing how a lot of these "conspiracy theories" have come true.

Its already been proven long ago, that they can indeed tap into your devices connected to the internet and activate your mic or even your camera. Same with tracking your purchases, and tracking your movements via GPS with your phone.

I know… I was just messing with you.

But unless you’re on the FBI’s most wanted list, why would they need to is my only point here.

Dont you remember the Obama IRS Tea Party scandal? Was Trump on the FBI list when they were listening in on him before the 2016 election? They target anyone they deem their enemy.

You just listen to me sugar bum, you'll be more woke than a triple expresso at a BLM event!

I really don’t recall reading about this tbh…

But surveillance is expensive and unless you’re a bigwig like the example you provided or file a workers comp claim for a serious back injury that requires surgery, you’re off for 9 months and then go golfing everyday, why would anyone care????

Yes, it is possible. No, it’s not healthy to feed into these paranoid delusions. Talk yourself off the ledge.

Surveillance these days is cheap and easy...even automatic in most cases. The data gets logged whether you're considered a person of suspicion or not. Every transaction, every movement, phone call, text, email, payment.

It's not paranoia to acknowledge it.

BULLSHIT

You need at least cameras installed for surveillance, they aren’t cheap, and the only people who have them installed are vendors who will not hand the footage over without a subpoena.

Keep your bullshit's to yourself.

Cameras are everywhere and they're not the sole method of surveillance anyway. Larger cities have pivoted to the China model.

If you don't understand something, I suggest you remain silent on it.

Except I just explained why they are installed and how someone can obtain the footage… you’re just too paranoid to want to grasp this simple concept that the video footage is not public record and therefore cannot be obtained without a court order *rolls eyes*

You are too herd mentality for me.

You're awfully naive.

Says the person who thinks traffic control and atm cams are watching him lol

 

[Murdy]

I believe this is a neutral thread. ^^^^^

they have been trashing every thread on this site all weekend

 

[Frood]

There is no legal case here, Joe. He sounds like a dick though.

I guess he didnt trust your check for whatever reason. But there is nothing here a court would give a shit about. You got your part, he got his money, the job was done.

You have your bank statement where you withdrew the money? He just flat out wont give you a receipt? (Honestly that's not damages....its just annoying)

...I'm not entirely sure why this person is reluctant to furnish a receipt.
It may have to do with his ex-wife & past child support payments he has been ordered to make by the Government.
So perhaps a share of his revenues (or all?) must be paid to his ex.
The man had 8 children by her from his first marriage.
What followed was a domestic dispute where he was kicked out of own home and a court case which went against him.
He was ordered by the government to pay thousands of dollars in child support.
A number of years ago, he told me that he owes over $30,000 to her in back payments.

Now I don't want to be vindictive, I just want the man to furnish me with a damn receipt.

I have a lawyer lined up for this purpose to contact him if he deson't comply.
I sent him a formal request by email to furnish a receipt.
But if that doesn't work, I'll have the lawyer send him a request for the receipt.

Now if that doesn't work, should I use 'the Nuclear option' - that is contact the government and family support services?

Y'know what was peculiar about this situation is when I was picking up my computer he was holding it hostage as if her were still in some custody support battle. And then he told me it was necessary to retain some of my possessions for collateral because a past client I never met or knew, didn't pay him. But I had nothing to do with that incident and it occurered perhaps 10 or 20 years ago.

It was like "you won't get your ocmputer back until you pay me in full."

I knew this guy for 7 years. I went out to social events with him, shared good times.

I thought he was my friend.

I didn't really care about the money actually.

I still don't. I'm just trying to keep track of my expenses and to prevent future claims by him that he wasn't paid or that he discounted my fees.

That's all I'm after. It's just for liability purposes and protection.

I'm not seeking any financial compensation although I was charged for services not performed and software Id din't get to own. And he took a small item I let him for testing purposes.

Is he licensed? I would need to see the actual contract to determine if it was breached.

If this is valued under $5k, you can sue him in small claims court. You would need to send him a certified letter mapping out the terms of the work he was to perform, methods of payment (cash and post dated check) and demand the property back placing a monetary value of what it’s worth and then demand the TOTAL of what you are owed be paid within 30 days. Keep the certified return receipt and then you can sue him.

PM me if you have further questions and good luck!

It is not worth the time, effort, or cash to bother with a small claims court case.

I really just want the receipt. I figger I paid for the job, so I should own the the receipt too.

It's really so that this individual doesn't make false claims against me about non-payment or spreads false rumors int he future.

he kept the licensing to the software too… how much did the software cost?

About $60 USD

ok so that’s also a damage you can recover….

You need to take all the emotion out of this and go sit down and write out what happened. Itemize everything you paid him and everything that wasn’t returned, everything that wasn’t done correctly… go get an estimate from someone who does this type of work to determine what it’s going to cost to get the computer where he was supposed to get it (including having licensed software) and make a 30 day formal demd for payment as I’ve outlined. You can also outline the small claims court filing fee and say you will seek reimbursement of that if you have to take this to court. The problem with small claims court is you have to make the 30 day demand and outline ALL of the expenses or you have no case.

thanks. The rules may be a bit different in Canada, but I'll look into it.

I don't really care about the money or a blinkin' mouse. I just want the receipt.

But maybe I gotta go the whole 9 nine yars just to get the receipt.

why you want the receipt so bad? Tax write off or something?

write your own fucking receipt if that's the case

I just have the invoice for the services I was billed for

You seem to have or are in this tech consulting business.

What would you do?

What's the proper procedure for billing and getting receipt for payment?

I just don't trust the guy ever since he a pulled a fast one like that. That's the reason I want the receipt.

Tech consulting is no different than the automotive business when it comes to drafting receipts.

I really only skimmed several posts here because, well, I enjoy conflict and sitting around a camp fire holding hands while smiling at one another politely in ~ Murdy's Snooze Column ~ isn't my cup of tea. Sorry Murd.

That said, as I was scrolling past one of your lengthier posts I did happen to notice the guy is giving you pirated software. is that correct?

Well then, software vendors do have a remedy for this kind of stuff which can come with some heavy penalties and fines. that's probably your best avenue

I would threaten to report them as he does not want to be reported. Tell him, I want a receipt and the return of my property, do that and I will agree not to report you. Fail to do that in 72 hours and I will report you causing you lots of problems. My guess is that he will agree that simply giving you a receipt is his least costly option and so go with it.

Snall claims court remains a waste of time. I still have a dead beat who owes me half a year's rent which she was able to pay but decided not to pay even though she was illegally subletting in violation of her lease. I will never see that money and the only option is do I sue her just to fuck her over knowing I will just be sinking good money after bad?

that is blackmail

But is that illegal? Is it wrong?

I was considering that as an option.

Either contacting Canada's equivalent of the IRS or Family Services.

I know he owes a lot of money to his Ex & his payments to her are monitored by the government here.

I don't want to be that ruthless.

I just want the receipt.

I ran out with two of my daughters (the little one and the teenager) and we stopped at Starbucks(I know, right? I'm not a Starbucks person, i think it's over priced total shit but eh.....I'm having a thing right now).

So my teen suddenly asked me why my receipt said "cumfrap"

And I dont know. But I dont think I'm going back.

It is written in Starbucks language. My ex worked there, I may be able to decipher it....

Green vanilla bean cream frappachino? It says Cream frap, not cumfap hahaha.

It was a grande vanilla bean frappuccino :D

how xire

Murdy’s Advice to @Joe

Never pay anyone cash. There are plenty of apps like Zele and Venmo that can keep a record of cash transactions for you. That is all

Cash is for drug dealers and prostitution houses

anyone still paying cash nowadays deserves to get ripped the fuck off

It’s always a pattern with people like this too… shady assholes. If you sue them there is a paper trail so other people who do business with them can research and decide what’s best. Judgements are NO joke.

I don't even buy coffee with cash anymore

The only time I will use cash is when I need some hick to come mow my grass or shave a tree down. And even then I'm more apt to writing a check

I only use cash...the Australian government is tracking all transactions supposedly for covid.

I also leave all electronic devices at home.

I put all my bill money in the bank, the rest goes in my wallet. I use cash on all expenses that are not bills. I dont like being tracked either. Nobody needs to know what the fuck I bought at the store.

Man, I been debating leaving my phone home lately too. I do realize now after Jan 6th that there are times not to have your phone on you. Lil fuckers can listen in and shit anyway.

Patty Paranoia, party of one…. your conspiracy is ready

Thats not very good advice Murdy lol. Amazing how a lot of these "conspiracy theories" have come true.

Its already been proven long ago, that they can indeed tap into your devices connected to the internet and activate your mic or even your camera. Same with tracking your purchases, and tracking your movements via GPS with your phone.

I know… I was just messing with you.

But unless you’re on the FBI’s most wanted list, why would they need to is my only point here.

Dont you remember the Obama IRS Tea Party scandal? Was Trump on the FBI list when they were listening in on him before the 2016 election? They target anyone they deem their enemy.

You just listen to me sugar bum, you'll be more woke than a triple expresso at a BLM event!

I really don’t recall reading about this tbh…

But surveillance is expensive and unless you’re a bigwig like the example you provided or file a workers comp claim for a serious back injury that requires surgery, you’re off for 9 months and then go golfing everyday, why would anyone care????

Yes, it is possible. No, it’s not healthy to feed into these paranoid delusions. Talk yourself off the ledge.

Surveillance these days is cheap and easy...even automatic in most cases. The data gets logged whether you're considered a person of suspicion or not. Every transaction, every movement, phone call, text, email, payment.

It's not paranoia to acknowledge it.

BULLSHIT

You need at least cameras installed for surveillance, they aren’t cheap, and the only people who have them installed are vendors who will not hand the footage over without a subpoena.

Keep your bullshit's to yourself.

Cameras are everywhere and they're not the sole method of surveillance anyway. Larger cities have pivoted to the China model.

If you don't understand something, I suggest you remain silent on it.

Except I just explained why they are installed and how someone can obtain the footage… you’re just too paranoid to want to grasp this simple concept that the video footage is not public record and therefore cannot be obtained without a court order *rolls eyes*

You are too herd mentality for me.

You're awfully naive.

Says the person who thinks traffic control and atm cams are watching him lol

You don't think large cities employ facial recognition cameras? Lulz... so naive!

 

[Frood]

I believe this is a neutral thread. ^^^^^

they have been trashing every thread on this site all weekend

Just following your lead...

 

[Murdy]

There is no legal case here, Joe. He sounds like a dick though.

I guess he didnt trust your check for whatever reason. But there is nothing here a court would give a shit about. You got your part, he got his money, the job was done.

You have your bank statement where you withdrew the money? He just flat out wont give you a receipt? (Honestly that's not damages....its just annoying)

...I'm not entirely sure why this person is reluctant to furnish a receipt.
It may have to do with his ex-wife & past child support payments he has been ordered to make by the Government.
So perhaps a share of his revenues (or all?) must be paid to his ex.
The man had 8 children by her from his first marriage.
What followed was a domestic dispute where he was kicked out of own home and a court case which went against him.
He was ordered by the government to pay thousands of dollars in child support.
A number of years ago, he told me that he owes over $30,000 to her in back payments.

Now I don't want to be vindictive, I just want the man to furnish me with a damn receipt.

I have a lawyer lined up for this purpose to contact him if he deson't comply.
I sent him a formal request by email to furnish a receipt.
But if that doesn't work, I'll have the lawyer send him a request for the receipt.

Now if that doesn't work, should I use 'the Nuclear option' - that is contact the government and family support services?

Y'know what was peculiar about this situation is when I was picking up my computer he was holding it hostage as if her were still in some custody support battle. And then he told me it was necessary to retain some of my possessions for collateral because a past client I never met or knew, didn't pay him. But I had nothing to do with that incident and it occurered perhaps 10 or 20 years ago.

It was like "you won't get your ocmputer back until you pay me in full."

I knew this guy for 7 years. I went out to social events with him, shared good times.

I thought he was my friend.

I didn't really care about the money actually.

I still don't. I'm just trying to keep track of my expenses and to prevent future claims by him that he wasn't paid or that he discounted my fees.

That's all I'm after. It's just for liability purposes and protection.

I'm not seeking any financial compensation although I was charged for services not performed and software Id din't get to own. And he took a small item I let him for testing purposes.

Is he licensed? I would need to see the actual contract to determine if it was breached.

If this is valued under $5k, you can sue him in small claims court. You would need to send him a certified letter mapping out the terms of the work he was to perform, methods of payment (cash and post dated check) and demand the property back placing a monetary value of what it’s worth and then demand the TOTAL of what you are owed be paid within 30 days. Keep the certified return receipt and then you can sue him.

PM me if you have further questions and good luck!

It is not worth the time, effort, or cash to bother with a small claims court case.

I really just want the receipt. I figger I paid for the job, so I should own the the receipt too.

It's really so that this individual doesn't make false claims against me about non-payment or spreads false rumors int he future.

he kept the licensing to the software too… how much did the software cost?

About $60 USD

ok so that’s also a damage you can recover….

You need to take all the emotion out of this and go sit down and write out what happened. Itemize everything you paid him and everything that wasn’t returned, everything that wasn’t done correctly… go get an estimate from someone who does this type of work to determine what it’s going to cost to get the computer where he was supposed to get it (including having licensed software) and make a 30 day formal demd for payment as I’ve outlined. You can also outline the small claims court filing fee and say you will seek reimbursement of that if you have to take this to court. The problem with small claims court is you have to make the 30 day demand and outline ALL of the expenses or you have no case.

thanks. The rules may be a bit different in Canada, but I'll look into it.

I don't really care about the money or a blinkin' mouse. I just want the receipt.

But maybe I gotta go the whole 9 nine yars just to get the receipt.

why you want the receipt so bad? Tax write off or something?

write your own fucking receipt if that's the case

I just have the invoice for the services I was billed for

You seem to have or are in this tech consulting business.

What would you do?

What's the proper procedure for billing and getting receipt for payment?

I just don't trust the guy ever since he a pulled a fast one like that. That's the reason I want the receipt.

Tech consulting is no different than the automotive business when it comes to drafting receipts.

I really only skimmed several posts here because, well, I enjoy conflict and sitting around a camp fire holding hands while smiling at one another politely in ~ Murdy's Snooze Column ~ isn't my cup of tea. Sorry Murd.

That said, as I was scrolling past one of your lengthier posts I did happen to notice the guy is giving you pirated software. is that correct?

Well then, software vendors do have a remedy for this kind of stuff which can come with some heavy penalties and fines. that's probably your best avenue

I would threaten to report them as he does not want to be reported. Tell him, I want a receipt and the return of my property, do that and I will agree not to report you. Fail to do that in 72 hours and I will report you causing you lots of problems. My guess is that he will agree that simply giving you a receipt is his least costly option and so go with it.

Snall claims court remains a waste of time. I still have a dead beat who owes me half a year's rent which she was able to pay but decided not to pay even though she was illegally subletting in violation of her lease. I will never see that money and the only option is do I sue her just to fuck her over knowing I will just be sinking good money after bad?

that is blackmail

But is that illegal? Is it wrong?

I was considering that as an option.

Either contacting Canada's equivalent of the IRS or Family Services.

I know he owes a lot of money to his Ex & his payments to her are monitored by the government here.

I don't want to be that ruthless.

I just want the receipt.

I ran out with two of my daughters (the little one and the teenager) and we stopped at Starbucks(I know, right? I'm not a Starbucks person, i think it's over priced total shit but eh.....I'm having a thing right now).

So my teen suddenly asked me why my receipt said "cumfrap"

And I dont know. But I dont think I'm going back.

It is written in Starbucks language. My ex worked there, I may be able to decipher it....

Green vanilla bean cream frappachino? It says Cream frap, not cumfap hahaha.

It was a grande vanilla bean frappuccino :D

how xire

Murdy’s Advice to @Joe

Never pay anyone cash. There are plenty of apps like Zele and Venmo that can keep a record of cash transactions for you. That is all

Cash is for drug dealers and prostitution houses

anyone still paying cash nowadays deserves to get ripped the fuck off

It’s always a pattern with people like this too… shady assholes. If you sue them there is a paper trail so other people who do business with them can research and decide what’s best. Judgements are NO joke.

I don't even buy coffee with cash anymore

The only time I will use cash is when I need some hick to come mow my grass or shave a tree down. And even then I'm more apt to writing a check

I only use cash...the Australian government is tracking all transactions supposedly for covid.

I also leave all electronic devices at home.

I put all my bill money in the bank, the rest goes in my wallet. I use cash on all expenses that are not bills. I dont like being tracked either. Nobody needs to know what the fuck I bought at the store.

Man, I been debating leaving my phone home lately too. I do realize now after Jan 6th that there are times not to have your phone on you. Lil fuckers can listen in and shit anyway.

Patty Paranoia, party of one…. your conspiracy is ready

Thats not very good advice Murdy lol. Amazing how a lot of these "conspiracy theories" have come true.

Its already been proven long ago, that they can indeed tap into your devices connected to the internet and activate your mic or even your camera. Same with tracking your purchases, and tracking your movements via GPS with your phone.

I know… I was just messing with you.

But unless you’re on the FBI’s most wanted list, why would they need to is my only point here.

Dont you remember the Obama IRS Tea Party scandal? Was Trump on the FBI list when they were listening in on him before the 2016 election? They target anyone they deem their enemy.

You just listen to me sugar bum, you'll be more woke than a triple expresso at a BLM event!

I really don’t recall reading about this tbh…

But surveillance is expensive and unless you’re a bigwig like the example you provided or file a workers comp claim for a serious back injury that requires surgery, you’re off for 9 months and then go golfing everyday, why would anyone care????

Yes, it is possible. No, it’s not healthy to feed into these paranoid delusions. Talk yourself off the ledge.

Surveillance these days is cheap and easy...even automatic in most cases. The data gets logged whether you're considered a person of suspicion or not. Every transaction, every movement, phone call, text, email, payment.

It's not paranoia to acknowledge it.

BULLSHIT

You need at least cameras installed for surveillance, they aren’t cheap, and the only people who have them installed are vendors who will not hand the footage over without a subpoena.

Keep your bullshit's to yourself.

Cameras are everywhere and they're not the sole method of surveillance anyway. Larger cities have pivoted to the China model.

If you don't understand something, I suggest you remain silent on it.

Except I just explained why they are installed and how someone can obtain the footage… you’re just too paranoid to want to grasp this simple concept that the video footage is not public record and therefore cannot be obtained without a court order *rolls eyes*

You are too herd mentality for me.

You're awfully naive.

Says the person who thinks traffic control and atm cams are watching him lol

You don't think large cities employ facial recognition cameras? Lulz... so naive!

I’m not concerned with them because they aren’t looking for me. I’m a law abiding citizen. In fact, you should try it. You’ll sleep better at night. Promise!

 

[Murdy]

I believe this is a neutral thread. ^^^^^

they have been trashing every thread on this site all weekend

Just following your lead...

I was out of town lol

 

[Frood]

There is no legal case here, Joe. He sounds like a dick though.

I guess he didnt trust your check for whatever reason. But there is nothing here a court would give a shit about. You got your part, he got his money, the job was done.

You have your bank statement where you withdrew the money? He just flat out wont give you a receipt? (Honestly that's not damages....its just annoying)

...I'm not entirely sure why this person is reluctant to furnish a receipt.
It may have to do with his ex-wife & past child support payments he has been ordered to make by the Government.
So perhaps a share of his revenues (or all?) must be paid to his ex.
The man had 8 children by her from his first marriage.
What followed was a domestic dispute where he was kicked out of own home and a court case which went against him.
He was ordered by the government to pay thousands of dollars in child support.
A number of years ago, he told me that he owes over $30,000 to her in back payments.

Now I don't want to be vindictive, I just want the man to furnish me with a damn receipt.

I have a lawyer lined up for this purpose to contact him if he deson't comply.
I sent him a formal request by email to furnish a receipt.
But if that doesn't work, I'll have the lawyer send him a request for the receipt.

Now if that doesn't work, should I use 'the Nuclear option' - that is contact the government and family support services?

Y'know what was peculiar about this situation is when I was picking up my computer he was holding it hostage as if her were still in some custody support battle. And then he told me it was necessary to retain some of my possessions for collateral because a past client I never met or knew, didn't pay him. But I had nothing to do with that incident and it occurered perhaps 10 or 20 years ago.

It was like "you won't get your ocmputer back until you pay me in full."

I knew this guy for 7 years. I went out to social events with him, shared good times.

I thought he was my friend.

I didn't really care about the money actually.

I still don't. I'm just trying to keep track of my expenses and to prevent future claims by him that he wasn't paid or that he discounted my fees.

That's all I'm after. It's just for liability purposes and protection.

I'm not seeking any financial compensation although I was charged for services not performed and software Id din't get to own. And he took a small item I let him for testing purposes.

Is he licensed? I would need to see the actual contract to determine if it was breached.

If this is valued under $5k, you can sue him in small claims court. You would need to send him a certified letter mapping out the terms of the work he was to perform, methods of payment (cash and post dated check) and demand the property back placing a monetary value of what it’s worth and then demand the TOTAL of what you are owed be paid within 30 days. Keep the certified return receipt and then you can sue him.

PM me if you have further questions and good luck!

It is not worth the time, effort, or cash to bother with a small claims court case.

I really just want the receipt. I figger I paid for the job, so I should own the the receipt too.

It's really so that this individual doesn't make false claims against me about non-payment or spreads false rumors int he future.

he kept the licensing to the software too… how much did the software cost?

About $60 USD

ok so that’s also a damage you can recover….

You need to take all the emotion out of this and go sit down and write out what happened. Itemize everything you paid him and everything that wasn’t returned, everything that wasn’t done correctly… go get an estimate from someone who does this type of work to determine what it’s going to cost to get the computer where he was supposed to get it (including having licensed software) and make a 30 day formal demd for payment as I’ve outlined. You can also outline the small claims court filing fee and say you will seek reimbursement of that if you have to take this to court. The problem with small claims court is you have to make the 30 day demand and outline ALL of the expenses or you have no case.

thanks. The rules may be a bit different in Canada, but I'll look into it.

I don't really care about the money or a blinkin' mouse. I just want the receipt.

But maybe I gotta go the whole 9 nine yars just to get the receipt.

why you want the receipt so bad? Tax write off or something?

write your own fucking receipt if that's the case

I just have the invoice for the services I was billed for

You seem to have or are in this tech consulting business.

What would you do?

What's the proper procedure for billing and getting receipt for payment?

I just don't trust the guy ever since he a pulled a fast one like that. That's the reason I want the receipt.

Tech consulting is no different than the automotive business when it comes to drafting receipts.

I really only skimmed several posts here because, well, I enjoy conflict and sitting around a camp fire holding hands while smiling at one another politely in ~ Murdy's Snooze Column ~ isn't my cup of tea. Sorry Murd.

That said, as I was scrolling past one of your lengthier posts I did happen to notice the guy is giving you pirated software. is that correct?

Well then, software vendors do have a remedy for this kind of stuff which can come with some heavy penalties and fines. that's probably your best avenue

I would threaten to report them as he does not want to be reported. Tell him, I want a receipt and the return of my property, do that and I will agree not to report you. Fail to do that in 72 hours and I will report you causing you lots of problems. My guess is that he will agree that simply giving you a receipt is his least costly option and so go with it.

Snall claims court remains a waste of time. I still have a dead beat who owes me half a year's rent which she was able to pay but decided not to pay even though she was illegally subletting in violation of her lease. I will never see that money and the only option is do I sue her just to fuck her over knowing I will just be sinking good money after bad?

that is blackmail

But is that illegal? Is it wrong?

I was considering that as an option.

Either contacting Canada's equivalent of the IRS or Family Services.

I know he owes a lot of money to his Ex & his payments to her are monitored by the government here.

I don't want to be that ruthless.

I just want the receipt.

I ran out with two of my daughters (the little one and the teenager) and we stopped at Starbucks(I know, right? I'm not a Starbucks person, i think it's over priced total shit but eh.....I'm having a thing right now).

So my teen suddenly asked me why my receipt said "cumfrap"

And I dont know. But I dont think I'm going back.

It is written in Starbucks language. My ex worked there, I may be able to decipher it....

Green vanilla bean cream frappachino? It says Cream frap, not cumfap hahaha.

It was a grande vanilla bean frappuccino :D

how xire

Murdy’s Advice to @Joe

Never pay anyone cash. There are plenty of apps like Zele and Venmo that can keep a record of cash transactions for you. That is all

Cash is for drug dealers and prostitution houses

anyone still paying cash nowadays deserves to get ripped the fuck off

It’s always a pattern with people like this too… shady assholes. If you sue them there is a paper trail so other people who do business with them can research and decide what’s best. Judgements are NO joke.

I don't even buy coffee with cash anymore

The only time I will use cash is when I need some hick to come mow my grass or shave a tree down. And even then I'm more apt to writing a check

I only use cash...the Australian government is tracking all transactions supposedly for covid.

I also leave all electronic devices at home.

I put all my bill money in the bank, the rest goes in my wallet. I use cash on all expenses that are not bills. I dont like being tracked either. Nobody needs to know what the fuck I bought at the store.

Man, I been debating leaving my phone home lately too. I do realize now after Jan 6th that there are times not to have your phone on you. Lil fuckers can listen in and shit anyway.

Patty Paranoia, party of one…. your conspiracy is ready

Thats not very good advice Murdy lol. Amazing how a lot of these "conspiracy theories" have come true.

Its already been proven long ago, that they can indeed tap into your devices connected to the internet and activate your mic or even your camera. Same with tracking your purchases, and tracking your movements via GPS with your phone.

I know… I was just messing with you.

But unless you’re on the FBI’s most wanted list, why would they need to is my only point here.

Dont you remember the Obama IRS Tea Party scandal? Was Trump on the FBI list when they were listening in on him before the 2016 election? They target anyone they deem their enemy.

You just listen to me sugar bum, you'll be more woke than a triple expresso at a BLM event!

I really don’t recall reading about this tbh…

But surveillance is expensive and unless you’re a bigwig like the example you provided or file a workers comp claim for a serious back injury that requires surgery, you’re off for 9 months and then go golfing everyday, why would anyone care????

Yes, it is possible. No, it’s not healthy to feed into these paranoid delusions. Talk yourself off the ledge.

Surveillance these days is cheap and easy...even automatic in most cases. The data gets logged whether you're considered a person of suspicion or not. Every transaction, every movement, phone call, text, email, payment.

It's not paranoia to acknowledge it.

BULLSHIT

You need at least cameras installed for surveillance, they aren’t cheap, and the only people who have them installed are vendors who will not hand the footage over without a subpoena.

Keep your bullshit's to yourself.

Cameras are everywhere and they're not the sole method of surveillance anyway. Larger cities have pivoted to the China model.

If you don't understand something, I suggest you remain silent on it.

Except I just explained why they are installed and how someone can obtain the footage… you’re just too paranoid to want to grasp this simple concept that the video footage is not public record and therefore cannot be obtained without a court order *rolls eyes*

You are too herd mentality for me.

You're awfully naive.

Says the person who thinks traffic control and atm cams are watching him lol

You don't think large cities employ facial recognition cameras? Lulz... so naive!

I’m not concerned with them because they aren’t looking for me. I’m a law abiding citizen. In fact, you should try it. You’ll sleep better at night. Promise!

Until they're reverse engineering a case against you.

There are no law abiding citizens btw...

 

[Frood]

I believe this is a neutral thread. ^^^^^

they have been trashing every thread on this site all weekend

Just following your lead...

I was out of town lol

I wasn't only talking about the weekend.

You thread jack often.

 

[Murdy]

There is no legal case here, Joe. He sounds like a dick though.

I guess he didnt trust your check for whatever reason. But there is nothing here a court would give a shit about. You got your part, he got his money, the job was done.

You have your bank statement where you withdrew the money? He just flat out wont give you a receipt? (Honestly that's not damages....its just annoying)

...I'm not entirely sure why this person is reluctant to furnish a receipt.
It may have to do with his ex-wife & past child support payments he has been ordered to make by the Government.
So perhaps a share of his revenues (or all?) must be paid to his ex.
The man had 8 children by her from his first marriage.
What followed was a domestic dispute where he was kicked out of own home and a court case which went against him.
He was ordered by the government to pay thousands of dollars in child support.
A number of years ago, he told me that he owes over $30,000 to her in back payments.

Now I don't want to be vindictive, I just want the man to furnish me with a damn receipt.

I have a lawyer lined up for this purpose to contact him if he deson't comply.
I sent him a formal request by email to furnish a receipt.
But if that doesn't work, I'll have the lawyer send him a request for the receipt.

Now if that doesn't work, should I use 'the Nuclear option' - that is contact the government and family support services?

Y'know what was peculiar about this situation is when I was picking up my computer he was holding it hostage as if her were still in some custody support battle. And then he told me it was necessary to retain some of my possessions for collateral because a past client I never met or knew, didn't pay him. But I had nothing to do with that incident and it occurered perhaps 10 or 20 years ago.

It was like "you won't get your ocmputer back until you pay me in full."

I knew this guy for 7 years. I went out to social events with him, shared good times.

I thought he was my friend.

I didn't really care about the money actually.

I still don't. I'm just trying to keep track of my expenses and to prevent future claims by him that he wasn't paid or that he discounted my fees.

That's all I'm after. It's just for liability purposes and protection.

I'm not seeking any financial compensation although I was charged for services not performed and software Id din't get to own. And he took a small item I let him for testing purposes.

Is he licensed? I would need to see the actual contract to determine if it was breached.

If this is valued under $5k, you can sue him in small claims court. You would need to send him a certified letter mapping out the terms of the work he was to perform, methods of payment (cash and post dated check) and demand the property back placing a monetary value of what it’s worth and then demand the TOTAL of what you are owed be paid within 30 days. Keep the certified return receipt and then you can sue him.

PM me if you have further questions and good luck!

It is not worth the time, effort, or cash to bother with a small claims court case.

I really just want the receipt. I figger I paid for the job, so I should own the the receipt too.

It's really so that this individual doesn't make false claims against me about non-payment or spreads false rumors int he future.

he kept the licensing to the software too… how much did the software cost?

About $60 USD

ok so that’s also a damage you can recover….

You need to take all the emotion out of this and go sit down and write out what happened. Itemize everything you paid him and everything that wasn’t returned, everything that wasn’t done correctly… go get an estimate from someone who does this type of work to determine what it’s going to cost to get the computer where he was supposed to get it (including having licensed software) and make a 30 day formal demd for payment as I’ve outlined. You can also outline the small claims court filing fee and say you will seek reimbursement of that if you have to take this to court. The problem with small claims court is you have to make the 30 day demand and outline ALL of the expenses or you have no case.

thanks. The rules may be a bit different in Canada, but I'll look into it.

I don't really care about the money or a blinkin' mouse. I just want the receipt.

But maybe I gotta go the whole 9 nine yars just to get the receipt.

why you want the receipt so bad? Tax write off or something?

write your own fucking receipt if that's the case

I just have the invoice for the services I was billed for

You seem to have or are in this tech consulting business.

What would you do?

What's the proper procedure for billing and getting receipt for payment?

I just don't trust the guy ever since he a pulled a fast one like that. That's the reason I want the receipt.

Tech consulting is no different than the automotive business when it comes to drafting receipts.

I really only skimmed several posts here because, well, I enjoy conflict and sitting around a camp fire holding hands while smiling at one another politely in ~ Murdy's Snooze Column ~ isn't my cup of tea. Sorry Murd.

That said, as I was scrolling past one of your lengthier posts I did happen to notice the guy is giving you pirated software. is that correct?

Well then, software vendors do have a remedy for this kind of stuff which can come with some heavy penalties and fines. that's probably your best avenue

I would threaten to report them as he does not want to be reported. Tell him, I want a receipt and the return of my property, do that and I will agree not to report you. Fail to do that in 72 hours and I will report you causing you lots of problems. My guess is that he will agree that simply giving you a receipt is his least costly option and so go with it.

Snall claims court remains a waste of time. I still have a dead beat who owes me half a year's rent which she was able to pay but decided not to pay even though she was illegally subletting in violation of her lease. I will never see that money and the only option is do I sue her just to fuck her over knowing I will just be sinking good money after bad?

that is blackmail

But is that illegal? Is it wrong?

I was considering that as an option.

Either contacting Canada's equivalent of the IRS or Family Services.

I know he owes a lot of money to his Ex & his payments to her are monitored by the government here.

I don't want to be that ruthless.

I just want the receipt.

I ran out with two of my daughters (the little one and the teenager) and we stopped at Starbucks(I know, right? I'm not a Starbucks person, i think it's over priced total shit but eh.....I'm having a thing right now).

So my teen suddenly asked me why my receipt said "cumfrap"

And I dont know. But I dont think I'm going back.

It is written in Starbucks language. My ex worked there, I may be able to decipher it....

Green vanilla bean cream frappachino? It says Cream frap, not cumfap hahaha.

It was a grande vanilla bean frappuccino :D

how xire

Murdy’s Advice to @Joe

Never pay anyone cash. There are plenty of apps like Zele and Venmo that can keep a record of cash transactions for you. That is all

Cash is for drug dealers and prostitution houses

anyone still paying cash nowadays deserves to get ripped the fuck off

It’s always a pattern with people like this too… shady assholes. If you sue them there is a paper trail so other people who do business with them can research and decide what’s best. Judgements are NO joke.

I don't even buy coffee with cash anymore

The only time I will use cash is when I need some hick to come mow my grass or shave a tree down. And even then I'm more apt to writing a check

I only use cash...the Australian government is tracking all transactions supposedly for covid.

I also leave all electronic devices at home.

I put all my bill money in the bank, the rest goes in my wallet. I use cash on all expenses that are not bills. I dont like being tracked either. Nobody needs to know what the fuck I bought at the store.

Man, I been debating leaving my phone home lately too. I do realize now after Jan 6th that there are times not to have your phone on you. Lil fuckers can listen in and shit anyway.

Patty Paranoia, party of one…. your conspiracy is ready

Thats not very good advice Murdy lol. Amazing how a lot of these "conspiracy theories" have come true.

Its already been proven long ago, that they can indeed tap into your devices connected to the internet and activate your mic or even your camera. Same with tracking your purchases, and tracking your movements via GPS with your phone.

I know… I was just messing with you.

But unless you’re on the FBI’s most wanted list, why would they need to is my only point here.

Dont you remember the Obama IRS Tea Party scandal? Was Trump on the FBI list when they were listening in on him before the 2016 election? They target anyone they deem their enemy.

You just listen to me sugar bum, you'll be more woke than a triple expresso at a BLM event!

I really don’t recall reading about this tbh…

But surveillance is expensive and unless you’re a bigwig like the example you provided or file a workers comp claim for a serious back injury that requires surgery, you’re off for 9 months and then go golfing everyday, why would anyone care????

Yes, it is possible. No, it’s not healthy to feed into these paranoid delusions. Talk yourself off the ledge.

Surveillance these days is cheap and easy...even automatic in most cases. The data gets logged whether you're considered a person of suspicion or not. Every transaction, every movement, phone call, text, email, payment.

It's not paranoia to acknowledge it.

BULLSHIT

You need at least cameras installed for surveillance, they aren’t cheap, and the only people who have them installed are vendors who will not hand the footage over without a subpoena.

Keep your bullshit's to yourself.

Cameras are everywhere and they're not the sole method of surveillance anyway. Larger cities have pivoted to the China model.

If you don't understand something, I suggest you remain silent on it.

Except I just explained why they are installed and how someone can obtain the footage… you’re just too paranoid to want to grasp this simple concept that the video footage is not public record and therefore cannot be obtained without a court order *rolls eyes*

You are too herd mentality for me.

You're awfully naive.

Says the person who thinks traffic control and atm cams are watching him lol

You don't think large cities employ facial recognition cameras? Lulz... so naive!

I’m not concerned with them because they aren’t looking for me. I’m a law abiding citizen. In fact, you should try it. You’ll sleep better at night. Promise!

Until they're reverse engineering a case against you.

There are no law abiding citizens btw...

Well, for starters… you would actually have to grasp the philosophy of law to understand if you’re breaking it first and foremost.

But reverse engineering a case against someone? That’s the most absurd thing I have heard in a while. I think someone has seen the Born film series one too many times.

 

[Murdy]

I believe this is a neutral thread. ^^^^^

they have been trashing every thread on this site all weekend

Just following your lead...

I was out of town lol

I wasn't only talking about the weekend.

You thread jack often.

I resent that accusation.

 

[Frood]

There is no legal case here, Joe. He sounds like a dick though.

I guess he didnt trust your check for whatever reason. But there is nothing here a court would give a shit about. You got your part, he got his money, the job was done.

You have your bank statement where you withdrew the money? He just flat out wont give you a receipt? (Honestly that's not damages....its just annoying)

...I'm not entirely sure why this person is reluctant to furnish a receipt.
It may have to do with his ex-wife & past child support payments he has been ordered to make by the Government.
So perhaps a share of his revenues (or all?) must be paid to his ex.
The man had 8 children by her from his first marriage.
What followed was a domestic dispute where he was kicked out of own home and a court case which went against him.
He was ordered by the government to pay thousands of dollars in child support.
A number of years ago, he told me that he owes over $30,000 to her in back payments.

Now I don't want to be vindictive, I just want the man to furnish me with a damn receipt.

I have a lawyer lined up for this purpose to contact him if he deson't comply.
I sent him a formal request by email to furnish a receipt.
But if that doesn't work, I'll have the lawyer send him a request for the receipt.

Now if that doesn't work, should I use 'the Nuclear option' - that is contact the government and family support services?

Y'know what was peculiar about this situation is when I was picking up my computer he was holding it hostage as if her were still in some custody support battle. And then he told me it was necessary to retain some of my possessions for collateral because a past client I never met or knew, didn't pay him. But I had nothing to do with that incident and it occurered perhaps 10 or 20 years ago.

It was like "you won't get your ocmputer back until you pay me in full."

I knew this guy for 7 years. I went out to social events with him, shared good times.

I thought he was my friend.

I didn't really care about the money actually.

I still don't. I'm just trying to keep track of my expenses and to prevent future claims by him that he wasn't paid or that he discounted my fees.

That's all I'm after. It's just for liability purposes and protection.

I'm not seeking any financial compensation although I was charged for services not performed and software Id din't get to own. And he took a small item I let him for testing purposes.

Is he licensed? I would need to see the actual contract to determine if it was breached.

If this is valued under $5k, you can sue him in small claims court. You would need to send him a certified letter mapping out the terms of the work he was to perform, methods of payment (cash and post dated check) and demand the property back placing a monetary value of what it’s worth and then demand the TOTAL of what you are owed be paid within 30 days. Keep the certified return receipt and then you can sue him.

PM me if you have further questions and good luck!

It is not worth the time, effort, or cash to bother with a small claims court case.

I really just want the receipt. I figger I paid for the job, so I should own the the receipt too.

It's really so that this individual doesn't make false claims against me about non-payment or spreads false rumors int he future.

he kept the licensing to the software too… how much did the software cost?

About $60 USD

ok so that’s also a damage you can recover….

You need to take all the emotion out of this and go sit down and write out what happened. Itemize everything you paid him and everything that wasn’t returned, everything that wasn’t done correctly… go get an estimate from someone who does this type of work to determine what it’s going to cost to get the computer where he was supposed to get it (including having licensed software) and make a 30 day formal demd for payment as I’ve outlined. You can also outline the small claims court filing fee and say you will seek reimbursement of that if you have to take this to court. The problem with small claims court is you have to make the 30 day demand and outline ALL of the expenses or you have no case.

thanks. The rules may be a bit different in Canada, but I'll look into it.

I don't really care about the money or a blinkin' mouse. I just want the receipt.

But maybe I gotta go the whole 9 nine yars just to get the receipt.

why you want the receipt so bad? Tax write off or something?

write your own fucking receipt if that's the case

I just have the invoice for the services I was billed for

You seem to have or are in this tech consulting business.

What would you do?

What's the proper procedure for billing and getting receipt for payment?

I just don't trust the guy ever since he a pulled a fast one like that. That's the reason I want the receipt.

Tech consulting is no different than the automotive business when it comes to drafting receipts.

I really only skimmed several posts here because, well, I enjoy conflict and sitting around a camp fire holding hands while smiling at one another politely in ~ Murdy's Snooze Column ~ isn't my cup of tea. Sorry Murd.

That said, as I was scrolling past one of your lengthier posts I did happen to notice the guy is giving you pirated software. is that correct?

Well then, software vendors do have a remedy for this kind of stuff which can come with some heavy penalties and fines. that's probably your best avenue

I would threaten to report them as he does not want to be reported. Tell him, I want a receipt and the return of my property, do that and I will agree not to report you. Fail to do that in 72 hours and I will report you causing you lots of problems. My guess is that he will agree that simply giving you a receipt is his least costly option and so go with it.

Snall claims court remains a waste of time. I still have a dead beat who owes me half a year's rent which she was able to pay but decided not to pay even though she was illegally subletting in violation of her lease. I will never see that money and the only option is do I sue her just to fuck her over knowing I will just be sinking good money after bad?

that is blackmail

But is that illegal? Is it wrong?

I was considering that as an option.

Either contacting Canada's equivalent of the IRS or Family Services.

I know he owes a lot of money to his Ex & his payments to her are monitored by the government here.

I don't want to be that ruthless.

I just want the receipt.

I ran out with two of my daughters (the little one and the teenager) and we stopped at Starbucks(I know, right? I'm not a Starbucks person, i think it's over priced total shit but eh.....I'm having a thing right now).

So my teen suddenly asked me why my receipt said "cumfrap"

And I dont know. But I dont think I'm going back.

It is written in Starbucks language. My ex worked there, I may be able to decipher it....

Green vanilla bean cream frappachino? It says Cream frap, not cumfap hahaha.

It was a grande vanilla bean frappuccino :D

how xire

Murdy’s Advice to @Joe

Never pay anyone cash. There are plenty of apps like Zele and Venmo that can keep a record of cash transactions for you. That is all

Cash is for drug dealers and prostitution houses

anyone still paying cash nowadays deserves to get ripped the fuck off

It’s always a pattern with people like this too… shady assholes. If you sue them there is a paper trail so other people who do business with them can research and decide what’s best. Judgements are NO joke.

I don't even buy coffee with cash anymore

The only time I will use cash is when I need some hick to come mow my grass or shave a tree down. And even then I'm more apt to writing a check

I only use cash...the Australian government is tracking all transactions supposedly for covid.

I also leave all electronic devices at home.

I put all my bill money in the bank, the rest goes in my wallet. I use cash on all expenses that are not bills. I dont like being tracked either. Nobody needs to know what the fuck I bought at the store.

Man, I been debating leaving my phone home lately too. I do realize now after Jan 6th that there are times not to have your phone on you. Lil fuckers can listen in and shit anyway.

Patty Paranoia, party of one…. your conspiracy is ready

Thats not very good advice Murdy lol. Amazing how a lot of these "conspiracy theories" have come true.

Its already been proven long ago, that they can indeed tap into your devices connected to the internet and activate your mic or even your camera. Same with tracking your purchases, and tracking your movements via GPS with your phone.

I know… I was just messing with you.

But unless you’re on the FBI’s most wanted list, why would they need to is my only point here.

Dont you remember the Obama IRS Tea Party scandal? Was Trump on the FBI list when they were listening in on him before the 2016 election? They target anyone they deem their enemy.

You just listen to me sugar bum, you'll be more woke than a triple expresso at a BLM event!

I really don’t recall reading about this tbh…

But surveillance is expensive and unless you’re a bigwig like the example you provided or file a workers comp claim for a serious back injury that requires surgery, you’re off for 9 months and then go golfing everyday, why would anyone care????

Yes, it is possible. No, it’s not healthy to feed into these paranoid delusions. Talk yourself off the ledge.

Surveillance these days is cheap and easy...even automatic in most cases. The data gets logged whether you're considered a person of suspicion or not. Every transaction, every movement, phone call, text, email, payment.

It's not paranoia to acknowledge it.

BULLSHIT

You need at least cameras installed for surveillance, they aren’t cheap, and the only people who have them installed are vendors who will not hand the footage over without a subpoena.

Keep your bullshit's to yourself.

Cameras are everywhere and they're not the sole method of surveillance anyway. Larger cities have pivoted to the China model.

If you don't understand something, I suggest you remain silent on it.

Except I just explained why they are installed and how someone can obtain the footage… you’re just too paranoid to want to grasp this simple concept that the video footage is not public record and therefore cannot be obtained without a court order *rolls eyes*

You are too herd mentality for me.

You're awfully naive.

Says the person who thinks traffic control and atm cams are watching him lol

You don't think large cities employ facial recognition cameras? Lulz... so naive!

I’m not concerned with them because they aren’t looking for me. I’m a law abiding citizen. In fact, you should try it. You’ll sleep better at night. Promise!

Until they're reverse engineering a case against you.

There are no law abiding citizens btw...

Well, for starters… you would actually have to grasp the philosophy of law to understand if you’re breaking it first and foremost.

But reverse engineering a case against someone? That’s the most absurd thing I have heard in a while. I think someone has seen the Born film series one too many times.

You must fetch coffees for actual lawyers...

 

[Frood]

I believe this is a neutral thread. ^^^^^

they have been trashing every thread on this site all weekend

Just following your lead...

I was out of town lol

I wasn't only talking about the weekend.

You thread jack often.

I resent that accusation.

You mean resemble...

 

[Oerdin]

How the fuck did my thread get turned into a political debate?

@Bastard Factory

I directly responded to other posters including you but, if you want, I suppose we could break off that discussion into a different thread and continue in the discussion in the politics forum.

KEEP. THE. POLITICAL. DISCUSSIONS. OFF. EVERY. THREAD. ON. THE. GENERAL. DISCUSSIONS. BOARD.

MMMK?

Someone is having a bad day. You know it is a poor look to turn narc and go crying to the mods especially since you've been melting down all day long. I am not sure what is going on in real life which has set you off on so many people today but maybe try talking to a friend about it and not taking it out on everyone else?

Also, as you said anyone can ask you anything... How does it feel when you vote for Democrats who are weapinizing law enforcement? Do you have any regrets about doing that, are you simply unaware that is what the Democrats are doing, or are you so partisan you just don't care if the legal system gets subverted in a partisan manner?

There, those are my questions for you. :)

 

[Murdy]

How the fuck did my thread get turned into a political debate?

@Bastard Factory

I directly responded to other posters including you but, if you want, I suppose we could break off that discussion into a different thread and continue in the discussion in the politics forum.

KEEP. THE. POLITICAL. DISCUSSIONS. OFF. EVERY. THREAD. ON. THE. GENERAL. DISCUSSIONS. BOARD.

MMMK?

Someone is having a bad day. You know it is a poor look to turn narc and go crying to the mods especially since you've been melting down all day long. I am not sure what is going on in real life which has set you off on so many people today but maybe try talking to a friend about it and not taking it out on everyone else?

Also, as you said anyone can ask you anything... How does it feel when you vote for Democrats who are weapinizing law enforcement? Do you have any regrets about doing that, are you simply unaware that is what the Democrats are doing, or are you so partisan you just don't care if the legal system gets subverted in a partisan manner?

There, those are my questions for you. :)

ok Biggie

 

[Murdy]

There is no legal case here, Joe. He sounds like a dick though.

I guess he didnt trust your check for whatever reason. But there is nothing here a court would give a shit about. You got your part, he got his money, the job was done.

You have your bank statement where you withdrew the money? He just flat out wont give you a receipt? (Honestly that's not damages....its just annoying)

...I'm not entirely sure why this person is reluctant to furnish a receipt.
It may have to do with his ex-wife & past child support payments he has been ordered to make by the Government.
So perhaps a share of his revenues (or all?) must be paid to his ex.
The man had 8 children by her from his first marriage.
What followed was a domestic dispute where he was kicked out of own home and a court case which went against him.
He was ordered by the government to pay thousands of dollars in child support.
A number of years ago, he told me that he owes over $30,000 to her in back payments.

Now I don't want to be vindictive, I just want the man to furnish me with a damn receipt.

I have a lawyer lined up for this purpose to contact him if he deson't comply.
I sent him a formal request by email to furnish a receipt.
But if that doesn't work, I'll have the lawyer send him a request for the receipt.

Now if that doesn't work, should I use 'the Nuclear option' - that is contact the government and family support services?

Y'know what was peculiar about this situation is when I was picking up my computer he was holding it hostage as if her were still in some custody support battle. And then he told me it was necessary to retain some of my possessions for collateral because a past client I never met or knew, didn't pay him. But I had nothing to do with that incident and it occurered perhaps 10 or 20 years ago.

It was like "you won't get your ocmputer back until you pay me in full."

I knew this guy for 7 years. I went out to social events with him, shared good times.

I thought he was my friend.

I didn't really care about the money actually.

I still don't. I'm just trying to keep track of my expenses and to prevent future claims by him that he wasn't paid or that he discounted my fees.

That's all I'm after. It's just for liability purposes and protection.

I'm not seeking any financial compensation although I was charged for services not performed and software Id din't get to own. And he took a small item I let him for testing purposes.

Is he licensed? I would need to see the actual contract to determine if it was breached.

If this is valued under $5k, you can sue him in small claims court. You would need to send him a certified letter mapping out the terms of the work he was to perform, methods of payment (cash and post dated check) and demand the property back placing a monetary value of what it’s worth and then demand the TOTAL of what you are owed be paid within 30 days. Keep the certified return receipt and then you can sue him.

PM me if you have further questions and good luck!

It is not worth the time, effort, or cash to bother with a small claims court case.

I really just want the receipt. I figger I paid for the job, so I should own the the receipt too.

It's really so that this individual doesn't make false claims against me about non-payment or spreads false rumors int he future.

he kept the licensing to the software too… how much did the software cost?

About $60 USD

ok so that’s also a damage you can recover….

You need to take all the emotion out of this and go sit down and write out what happened. Itemize everything you paid him and everything that wasn’t returned, everything that wasn’t done correctly… go get an estimate from someone who does this type of work to determine what it’s going to cost to get the computer where he was supposed to get it (including having licensed software) and make a 30 day formal demd for payment as I’ve outlined. You can also outline the small claims court filing fee and say you will seek reimbursement of that if you have to take this to court. The problem with small claims court is you have to make the 30 day demand and outline ALL of the expenses or you have no case.

thanks. The rules may be a bit different in Canada, but I'll look into it.

I don't really care about the money or a blinkin' mouse. I just want the receipt.

But maybe I gotta go the whole 9 nine yars just to get the receipt.

why you want the receipt so bad? Tax write off or something?

write your own fucking receipt if that's the case

I just have the invoice for the services I was billed for

You seem to have or are in this tech consulting business.

What would you do?

What's the proper procedure for billing and getting receipt for payment?

I just don't trust the guy ever since he a pulled a fast one like that. That's the reason I want the receipt.

Tech consulting is no different than the automotive business when it comes to drafting receipts.

I really only skimmed several posts here because, well, I enjoy conflict and sitting around a camp fire holding hands while smiling at one another politely in ~ Murdy's Snooze Column ~ isn't my cup of tea. Sorry Murd.

That said, as I was scrolling past one of your lengthier posts I did happen to notice the guy is giving you pirated software. is that correct?

Well then, software vendors do have a remedy for this kind of stuff which can come with some heavy penalties and fines. that's probably your best avenue

I would threaten to report them as he does not want to be reported. Tell him, I want a receipt and the return of my property, do that and I will agree not to report you. Fail to do that in 72 hours and I will report you causing you lots of problems. My guess is that he will agree that simply giving you a receipt is his least costly option and so go with it.

Snall claims court remains a waste of time. I still have a dead beat who owes me half a year's rent which she was able to pay but decided not to pay even though she was illegally subletting in violation of her lease. I will never see that money and the only option is do I sue her just to fuck her over knowing I will just be sinking good money after bad?

that is blackmail

But is that illegal? Is it wrong?

I was considering that as an option.

Either contacting Canada's equivalent of the IRS or Family Services.

I know he owes a lot of money to his Ex & his payments to her are monitored by the government here.

I don't want to be that ruthless.

I just want the receipt.

I ran out with two of my daughters (the little one and the teenager) and we stopped at Starbucks(I know, right? I'm not a Starbucks person, i think it's over priced total shit but eh.....I'm having a thing right now).

So my teen suddenly asked me why my receipt said "cumfrap"

And I dont know. But I dont think I'm going back.

It is written in Starbucks language. My ex worked there, I may be able to decipher it....

Green vanilla bean cream frappachino? It says Cream frap, not cumfap hahaha.

It was a grande vanilla bean frappuccino :D

how xire

Murdy’s Advice to @Joe

Never pay anyone cash. There are plenty of apps like Zele and Venmo that can keep a record of cash transactions for you. That is all

Cash is for drug dealers and prostitution houses

anyone still paying cash nowadays deserves to get ripped the fuck off

It’s always a pattern with people like this too… shady assholes. If you sue them there is a paper trail so other people who do business with them can research and decide what’s best. Judgements are NO joke.

I don't even buy coffee with cash anymore

The only time I will use cash is when I need some hick to come mow my grass or shave a tree down. And even then I'm more apt to writing a check

I only use cash...the Australian government is tracking all transactions supposedly for covid.

I also leave all electronic devices at home.

I put all my bill money in the bank, the rest goes in my wallet. I use cash on all expenses that are not bills. I dont like being tracked either. Nobody needs to know what the fuck I bought at the store.

Man, I been debating leaving my phone home lately too. I do realize now after Jan 6th that there are times not to have your phone on you. Lil fuckers can listen in and shit anyway.

Patty Paranoia, party of one…. your conspiracy is ready

Thats not very good advice Murdy lol. Amazing how a lot of these "conspiracy theories" have come true.

Its already been proven long ago, that they can indeed tap into your devices connected to the internet and activate your mic or even your camera. Same with tracking your purchases, and tracking your movements via GPS with your phone.

I know… I was just messing with you.

But unless you’re on the FBI’s most wanted list, why would they need to is my only point here.

Dont you remember the Obama IRS Tea Party scandal? Was Trump on the FBI list when they were listening in on him before the 2016 election? They target anyone they deem their enemy.

You just listen to me sugar bum, you'll be more woke than a triple expresso at a BLM event!

I really don’t recall reading about this tbh…

But surveillance is expensive and unless you’re a bigwig like the example you provided or file a workers comp claim for a serious back injury that requires surgery, you’re off for 9 months and then go golfing everyday, why would anyone care????

Yes, it is possible. No, it’s not healthy to feed into these paranoid delusions. Talk yourself off the ledge.

Surveillance these days is cheap and easy...even automatic in most cases. The data gets logged whether you're considered a person of suspicion or not. Every transaction, every movement, phone call, text, email, payment.

It's not paranoia to acknowledge it.

BULLSHIT

You need at least cameras installed for surveillance, they aren’t cheap, and the only people who have them installed are vendors who will not hand the footage over without a subpoena.

Keep your bullshit's to yourself.

Cameras are everywhere and they're not the sole method of surveillance anyway. Larger cities have pivoted to the China model.

If you don't understand something, I suggest you remain silent on it.

Except I just explained why they are installed and how someone can obtain the footage… you’re just too paranoid to want to grasp this simple concept that the video footage is not public record and therefore cannot be obtained without a court order *rolls eyes*

You are too herd mentality for me.

You're awfully naive.

Says the person who thinks traffic control and atm cams are watching him lol

You don't think large cities employ facial recognition cameras? Lulz... so naive!

I’m not concerned with them because they aren’t looking for me. I’m a law abiding citizen. In fact, you should try it. You’ll sleep better at night. Promise!

Until they're reverse engineering a case against you.

There are no law abiding citizens btw...

Well, for starters… you would actually have to grasp the philosophy of law to understand if you’re breaking it first and foremost.

But reverse engineering a case against someone? That’s the most absurd thing I have heard in a while. I think someone has seen the Born film series one too many times.

You must fetch coffees for actual lawyers...

 

[Murdy]

I believe this is a neutral thread. ^^^^^

they have been trashing every thread on this site all weekend

Just following your lead...

I was out of town lol

I wasn't only talking about the weekend.

You thread jack often.

I resent that accusation.

You mean resemble...

No… I mean exactly what I said. No one has complained or called me out for it until you with your NO YUO BULLSHIT posting here.

However, I do follow Lotus and see her threads trashed regularly like what is going on here with talk of politics and minor children identifying cum Frappuccino’s from Starbucks *barfs*

 

[Frood]

I believe this is a neutral thread. ^^^^^

they have been trashing every thread on this site all weekend

Just following your lead...

I was out of town lol

I wasn't only talking about the weekend.

You thread jack often.

I resent that accusation.

You mean resemble...

No… I mean exactly what I said. No one has complained or called me out for it until you with your NO YUO BULLSHIT posting here.

However, I do follow Lotus and see her threads trashed regularly like what is going on here with talk of politics and minor children identifying cum Frappuccino’s from Starbucks *barfs*

Have you got the vapours or something?

Or maybe menopause?

You're acting like a Karen.

 

[Dove]

There is no legal case here, Joe. He sounds like a dick though.

I guess he didnt trust your check for whatever reason. But there is nothing here a court would give a shit about. You got your part, he got his money, the job was done.

You have your bank statement where you withdrew the money? He just flat out wont give you a receipt? (Honestly that's not damages....its just annoying)

...I'm not entirely sure why this person is reluctant to furnish a receipt.
It may have to do with his ex-wife & past child support payments he has been ordered to make by the Government.
So perhaps a share of his revenues (or all?) must be paid to his ex.
The man had 8 children by her from his first marriage.
What followed was a domestic dispute where he was kicked out of own home and a court case which went against him.
He was ordered by the government to pay thousands of dollars in child support.
A number of years ago, he told me that he owes over $30,000 to her in back payments.

Now I don't want to be vindictive, I just want the man to furnish me with a damn receipt.

I have a lawyer lined up for this purpose to contact him if he deson't comply.
I sent him a formal request by email to furnish a receipt.
But if that doesn't work, I'll have the lawyer send him a request for the receipt.

Now if that doesn't work, should I use 'the Nuclear option' - that is contact the government and family support services?

Y'know what was peculiar about this situation is when I was picking up my computer he was holding it hostage as if her were still in some custody support battle. And then he told me it was necessary to retain some of my possessions for collateral because a past client I never met or knew, didn't pay him. But I had nothing to do with that incident and it occurered perhaps 10 or 20 years ago.

It was like "you won't get your ocmputer back until you pay me in full."

I knew this guy for 7 years. I went out to social events with him, shared good times.

I thought he was my friend.

I didn't really care about the money actually.

I still don't. I'm just trying to keep track of my expenses and to prevent future claims by him that he wasn't paid or that he discounted my fees.

That's all I'm after. It's just for liability purposes and protection.

I'm not seeking any financial compensation although I was charged for services not performed and software Id din't get to own. And he took a small item I let him for testing purposes.

Is he licensed? I would need to see the actual contract to determine if it was breached.

If this is valued under $5k, you can sue him in small claims court. You would need to send him a certified letter mapping out the terms of the work he was to perform, methods of payment (cash and post dated check) and demand the property back placing a monetary value of what it’s worth and then demand the TOTAL of what you are owed be paid within 30 days. Keep the certified return receipt and then you can sue him.

PM me if you have further questions and good luck!

It is not worth the time, effort, or cash to bother with a small claims court case.

I really just want the receipt. I figger I paid for the job, so I should own the the receipt too.

It's really so that this individual doesn't make false claims against me about non-payment or spreads false rumors int he future.

he kept the licensing to the software too… how much did the software cost?

About $60 USD

ok so that’s also a damage you can recover….

You need to take all the emotion out of this and go sit down and write out what happened. Itemize everything you paid him and everything that wasn’t returned, everything that wasn’t done correctly… go get an estimate from someone who does this type of work to determine what it’s going to cost to get the computer where he was supposed to get it (including having licensed software) and make a 30 day formal demd for payment as I’ve outlined. You can also outline the small claims court filing fee and say you will seek reimbursement of that if you have to take this to court. The problem with small claims court is you have to make the 30 day demand and outline ALL of the expenses or you have no case.

thanks. The rules may be a bit different in Canada, but I'll look into it.

I don't really care about the money or a blinkin' mouse. I just want the receipt.

But maybe I gotta go the whole 9 nine yars just to get the receipt.

why you want the receipt so bad? Tax write off or something?

write your own fucking receipt if that's the case

I just have the invoice for the services I was billed for

You seem to have or are in this tech consulting business.

What would you do?

What's the proper procedure for billing and getting receipt for payment?

I just don't trust the guy ever since he a pulled a fast one like that. That's the reason I want the receipt.

Tech consulting is no different than the automotive business when it comes to drafting receipts.

I really only skimmed several posts here because, well, I enjoy conflict and sitting around a camp fire holding hands while smiling at one another politely in ~ Murdy's Snooze Column ~ isn't my cup of tea. Sorry Murd.

That said, as I was scrolling past one of your lengthier posts I did happen to notice the guy is giving you pirated software. is that correct?

Well then, software vendors do have a remedy for this kind of stuff which can come with some heavy penalties and fines. that's probably your best avenue

I would threaten to report them as he does not want to be reported. Tell him, I want a receipt and the return of my property, do that and I will agree not to report you. Fail to do that in 72 hours and I will report you causing you lots of problems. My guess is that he will agree that simply giving you a receipt is his least costly option and so go with it.

Snall claims court remains a waste of time. I still have a dead beat who owes me half a year's rent which she was able to pay but decided not to pay even though she was illegally subletting in violation of her lease. I will never see that money and the only option is do I sue her just to fuck her over knowing I will just be sinking good money after bad?

that is blackmail

But is that illegal? Is it wrong?

I was considering that as an option.

Either contacting Canada's equivalent of the IRS or Family Services.

I know he owes a lot of money to his Ex & his payments to her are monitored by the government here.

I don't want to be that ruthless.

I just want the receipt.

I ran out with two of my daughters (the little one and the teenager) and we stopped at Starbucks(I know, right? I'm not a Starbucks person, i think it's over priced total shit but eh.....I'm having a thing right now).

So my teen suddenly asked me why my receipt said "cumfrap"

And I dont know. But I dont think I'm going back.

It is written in Starbucks language. My ex worked there, I may be able to decipher it....

Green vanilla bean cream frappachino? It says Cream frap, not cumfap hahaha.

It was a grande vanilla bean frappuccino :D

how xire

Murdy’s Advice to @Joe

Never pay anyone cash. There are plenty of apps like Zele and Venmo that can keep a record of cash transactions for you. That is all

Cash is for drug dealers and prostitution houses

anyone still paying cash nowadays deserves to get ripped the fuck off

It’s always a pattern with people like this too… shady assholes. If you sue them there is a paper trail so other people who do business with them can research and decide what’s best. Judgements are NO joke.

I don't even buy coffee with cash anymore

The only time I will use cash is when I need some hick to come mow my grass or shave a tree down. And even then I'm more apt to writing a check

I only use cash...the Australian government is tracking all transactions supposedly for covid.

I also leave all electronic devices at home.

I put all my bill money in the bank, the rest goes in my wallet. I use cash on all expenses that are not bills. I dont like being tracked either. Nobody needs to know what the fuck I bought at the store.

Man, I been debating leaving my phone home lately too. I do realize now after Jan 6th that there are times not to have your phone on you. Lil fuckers can listen in and shit anyway.

Patty Paranoia, party of one…. your conspiracy is ready

Thats not very good advice Murdy lol. Amazing how a lot of these "conspiracy theories" have come true.

Its already been proven long ago, that they can indeed tap into your devices connected to the internet and activate your mic or even your camera. Same with tracking your purchases, and tracking your movements via GPS with your phone.

I know… I was just messing with you.

But unless you’re on the FBI’s most wanted list, why would they need to is my only point here.

Dont you remember the Obama IRS Tea Party scandal? Was Trump on the FBI list when they were listening in on him before the 2016 election? They target anyone they deem their enemy.

You just listen to me sugar bum, you'll be more woke than a triple expresso at a BLM event!

I really don’t recall reading about this tbh…

But surveillance is expensive and unless you’re a bigwig like the example you provided or file a workers comp claim for a serious back injury that requires surgery, you’re off for 9 months and then go golfing everyday, why would anyone care????

Yes, it is possible. No, it’s not healthy to feed into these paranoid delusions. Talk yourself off the ledge.

Surveillance these days is cheap and easy...even automatic in most cases. The data gets logged whether you're considered a person of suspicion or not. Every transaction, every movement, phone call, text, email, payment.

It's not paranoia to acknowledge it.

BULLSHIT

You need at least cameras installed for surveillance, they aren’t cheap, and the only people who have them installed are vendors who will not hand the footage over without a subpoena.

Keep your bullshit's to yourself.

Cameras are everywhere and they're not the sole method of surveillance anyway. Larger cities have pivoted to the China model.

If you don't understand something, I suggest you remain silent on it.

Except I just explained why they are installed and how someone can obtain the footage… you’re just too paranoid to want to grasp this simple concept that the video footage is not public record and therefore cannot be obtained without a court order *rolls eyes*

You are too herd mentality for me.

You're awfully naive.

Says the person who thinks traffic control and atm cams are watching him lol

You don't think large cities employ facial recognition cameras? Lulz... so naive!

They literally used facial recognition technology to arrest people who were at the Capitol on jan 6th.

Anyone who thinks a 16 year old doesnt regularly joke about anything that looks slightly sexual doesnt live in reality. I can only imagine everything her teenagers hid from her considering how naive she is.

MY daughters tell me when they get a dick pic. All the other teens just send them around to eachother. It's just dumb and naive to think teens are the equivalent of 10 year olds.

So over the fake and naive sanctimony.

Especailly from someone ignorant enough to vote for policies that allow girls YOUNGER than mine (14 and up) to get abortions without parental consent and forcing them to share private female facilities with biological men. It's almost like they think parents who have an open line of communication with their teens is a bad thing, but vote for them to get abortions and get crash courses in anal sex and have access to pornographic reading material in middle school.

Literally supports an exploitive organization that peddles sexually graphic material to minors, birth control, and performs abortions on them without even reporting obvious sexual abuse. Clutches pearls when a 16 year old girl tells her mother she received a dick pick.....and months later dies laughing because a Starbucks receipt looks like it said cumfrap. Right.

 

[Dove]

I believe this is a neutral thread. ^^^^^

they have been trashing every thread on this site all weekend

Just following your lead...

I was out of town lol

I wasn't only talking about the weekend.

You thread jack often.

I resent that accusation.

You mean resemble...

No… I mean exactly what I said. No one has complained or called me out for it until you with your NO YUO BULLSHIT posting here.

However, I do follow Lotus and see her threads trashed regularly like what is going on here with talk of politics and minor children identifying cum Frappuccino’s from Starbucks *barfs*

Have you got the vapours or something?

Or maybe menopause?

You're acting like a Karen.

Maybe it hurts to see a mom whose teens talk to her about things they think and things that happen?

I'm getting the impression hers didnt bother.

 

[Blazor]

Murdy’s Advice to @Joe

Never pay anyone cash. There are plenty of apps like Zele and Venmo that can keep a record of cash transactions for you. That is all

Cash is for drug dealers and prostitution houses

anyone still paying cash nowadays deserves to get ripped the fuck off

It’s always a pattern with people like this too… shady assholes. If you sue them there is a paper trail so other people who do business with them can research and decide what’s best. Judgements are NO joke.

I don't even buy coffee with cash anymore

The only time I will use cash is when I need some hick to come mow my grass or shave a tree down. And even then I'm more apt to writing a check

I only use cash...the Australian government is tracking all transactions supposedly for covid.

I also leave all electronic devices at home.

I put all my bill money in the bank, the rest goes in my wallet. I use cash on all expenses that are not bills. I dont like being tracked either. Nobody needs to know what the fuck I bought at the store.

Man, I been debating leaving my phone home lately too. I do realize now after Jan 6th that there are times not to have your phone on you. Lil fuckers can listen in and shit anyway.

Patty Paranoia, party of one…. your conspiracy is ready

Thats not very good advice Murdy lol. Amazing how a lot of these "conspiracy theories" have come true.

Its already been proven long ago, that they can indeed tap into your devices connected to the internet and activate your mic or even your camera. Same with tracking your purchases, and tracking your movements via GPS with your phone.

I know… I was just messing with you.

But unless you’re on the FBI’s most wanted list, why would they need to is my only point here.

Dont you remember the Obama IRS Tea Party scandal? Was Trump on the FBI list when they were listening in on him before the 2016 election? They target anyone they deem their enemy.

You just listen to me sugar bum, you'll be more woke than a triple expresso at a BLM event!

I really don’t recall reading about this tbh…

But surveillance is expensive and unless you’re a bigwig like the example you provided or file a workers comp claim for a serious back injury that requires surgery, you’re off for 9 months and then go golfing everyday, why would anyone care????

Yes, it is possible. No, it’s not healthy to feed into these paranoid delusions. Talk yourself off the ledge.

Surveillance these days is cheap and easy...even automatic in most cases. The data gets logged whether you're considered a person of suspicion or not. Every transaction, every movement, phone call, text, email, payment.

It's not paranoia to acknowledge it.

BULLSHIT

You need at least cameras installed for surveillance, they aren’t cheap, and the only people who have them installed are vendors who will not hand the footage over without a subpoena.

Hold up, I dont think you know what he is talking about.

Do you not know about the recent construction of the facility in Colorado that houses ALLLLL electronic communications? Literally everything.

 

[Seamajor]

Murdy, I just started messing with this lovely Latina. Its been happening for about a week. Mostly chit chat, hugs and feels. I met her on the beach. She’s a good wave rider. Drives a nice newer SUV, seems to have money in her pocket. Late 40$, nice and dark, not too much make up, shapely, speaks perfect English. Text messages, seems to be at the beach when I am. Frequents the same bar. Wants to stop by to play with Joaquin the cat, that sort of thing. I sure would like to bone her. I sense expectation tho, which turns me off. I don’t want a room mate, or even someone spoiling my privacy. It would be nice to spend an hour or two being close. Do I have to jump in, or let it go?