Those countries and the WHO can fund it themselves. democRATs funded these programs for eons yet we STILL had caravans showing up! josephine, you're a POS liar!EXACTLY, dumb ass. You people only watch a problem grow or add to it. You never solve them!Fukin left wont even execute someone who eats children alive.When you get raped, you can go get that taken care of promptly. If you show up with your dads kid inside of you 6 months later, you're having a baby. Life is cruel, it dont mean you get to murder a child that can live outside of you. But your charge was that I'm against birth control, you scumbag fuk. Way to move the goal post!One retarded idiot at a time josephine. However I'll repeat what I've said, I'm not against birth control, you fukin brain dead half wit.
Thing is, yer also against birth control & family planning measures like yer hero St Trump
But if yer Dear Leader St Trump & his beloved Republican party don't get serious about family planning for the ones who need it most this what your nation's future looks like. ..Lokmeer!
You may not be around ta deal with it, but yer kids and grandchildren will have to.
In that case don't you also think that if girls or women were made pregnant through no fault of their own - rape or incest - that they should ba able to abort a fetus?
The issue of abortion and rape is completely fucked. And the people that use rape? They dont actually hear any women who have gone through this.
There is a whole group of women who conceived via rape fighting this rhetoric. Women who aborted because OTHER people wanted them to. And women that birthed the baby and adopted him/her out...and those who kept the baby.
It's always people that havent walked that road. They say they want women to have the choice..
..but they dont give a shit about those who are taken to get abortions by their abusers and released back to abusers with no report it those who were pressured by family and friends to get rid of the "rape baby".
People assume women see the baby as a rape baby. They are EXPECTED to see it that way. But so many of them say it was/is THEIR baby
We could foster a more educated, human centered, compassionate society that recognizes two victims of a crime and cares about and supports BOTH. The way this is viewed could change.
But then the money flow from abortion would be cut into and the elite powers that be dont want to lose money. So the cruelty and exploitation continue.
We should be killing rapists but leftwads have more compassion for subhuman psychopaths who rape and murder than they do for any innocent humans. And that's across the board.
WHUUT???? … but… but… we don’t even evict the people out of tents who are plaguing our neighborhoods according to you….
Wont stop illegal invaders
Wont stop street shitters
Wont even execute people who murder 5 year old children!
omg you are so force fed politics it’s painful
your side won’t even make birth control readily available
your side killed the planned parenthood budget
a woman can’t be sterilized at will before age 35
You complain incessantly about California when we don’t even hold the voter weight we should…
you are the problem
Yeah they seem to be against all forms of family planning and birth control. These are not programs that just take care of themselves. They need proper funding and support.
Trump cut funding for Planned Parenthood in 3rd World countries and then his supporters whine when packs of Brown & Black skinned migrants show up at the US Mexican border.
Can't have it both ways. Either you encourage the poor countries to cut their birth rates or else you get swarms of them trying to break in the US 20 years later
Well then, just be prepared to accept or deal with more illegals tring to break into your country, Lokmeer.
You guys pumped $2.5 trillion into Afghanistan with failed military intervention.
Why not just pump a couple billion into brith control for these poor countries
The net benefit might be exponentially greater.
It's not our job to take care of other countries. It's just not.
I didnt support being in Afganistan and I dont support American tax payers being forced to pay for people in other countries....especailly when so many of our own citizens are on the streets.
Well, I support Canada donating funds for birth control programs in poorer countries.
The net beneift is that scores of the yet to be born don't try to enter wealthy countries like the USA.
and make no mistake about it - if they hava a choice between Canada and the United States, they'll gladly take a b-line to bypass Canada in favor of America. Most of these migrants see America as the promised land.
So Canada's efforts to combat birth control actually benefit America more than us.
They'll come to you, before they come to Canada.
And despite what you think these poorer countries - especially their women - really want family planning and birth control programs to avoid an even worse fate.
...otherwise you end up with results like this when they grow up:
Okay but you understand everyone who wants to financially help this cause if totally free to do so?
But tax payers should not be FORCED to pay for this, especailly when we have so many of our own problems.
And really, Joe, the democrat lock downs? Those starved thousands of children to DEATH in those same impoverished countries. That was one of the many costs of that. Are you aware of that?
"Virus-linked hunger tied to 10,000 child deaths each month"
And I'm not saying YOU do this, but HOW am I supposed to take any democrat voter seriously when they start talking about compassion and helping the poor? Because as soon as their partisan side flips and does something that directly causes harm and death.....their hearts suddenly stop bleeding and they get pretty sociopathic.
You know how much rape and trafficking is occurring at the border now? We have humanitarian crisis that none of those people care about.
But they want American tax dollars to buy birth control for third world women and if we dont agree we are uncaring?
Sure. I just dont buy it. Maybe if these pricks didnt starve 10k kids a month, cause that Afganistan fuckery and cause a humanitarian crisis.....maybe if they ever lifted a finger to help with outreach here (they wont because they hate "cons") I would take this more seriously.
Are you aware that third world poor people STILL havent had ANY Covid vaccines? And we are being pushed into BOOSTERS and these poor people who dont have a quarter of the resources WE do havent even received ONE DOSE?
Are you aware Biden just bombed children? That he bombed a clinic and a school before pulling out of Afghanistan? See most democrat/progs dont know ANY of this shit but want to pretend they give a fuck about the impoverished. All of a sudden if they think it helps their political stance.
Btw....its been shown that when people are able to keep more of their earnings, they give more to help their communities. I have no idea why you guys think that only the state can do anything. It's like if the state isnt doing it....its not valid. And the state gives SHIT assistance. People do a much better job helping other people. Wouldnt you rather have that kind of community where people will help eachother? Instead of the cold dehumanizing state? Because welfare has fucked up a lot of important things.
I wish you guys would start seeing humanity in these issues.
They're too fukin stupid to even know what does and doesnt exist! Fukin josephine doesnt even realize we fund 3/4 of the WHO which provides among other things, BIRTH CONTROL!!!!!
I like Joe and I view him as more centrist.
He does get very stuck on narrative when the topic is abortion though.
Dovey, I thnk some of your points about abortion are valid, but the laws have to fair to both sides.
You made some points such as:
ie - women who continually go in for abortions non stop. therby putting a strain on the health system/costs. so perhaps there should be training to prevent or change that kind of behaviour.
ie - abortions performed too late in the cycle.
Perhaps there need to be improved contraception programs to lower abortion rates or teen pregnancies?
However,...ieven f it is a pro life law, then will it acheive its goals and really save lives? Not just the unborn child, but the mother too? Will it prevent mothers from abandoning children? Will it prevent back alley abortions?
Will there be social supports once the child arrives in the world?
Is there protection for women/girls in trouble, like those raped by some predator or incested by their fathers through no fault of their own? A lot of them are victims
They need protection too.
It can't be a top down directive or one way street.
Social policy isn't that simplistic. You're dealing with human lives, not widgets.
The vast majority of abortions are performed before the 2nd trimester, I think 90%. The next 9% are performed before through the 20th week, after that only 1% are performed. Most of which are do to fetal malformities or viability issues or the mother's health.
All this drama is about ending abortion. End of.
Naw, thats not even close to accurate. I'll hear back from my friend at the state in a few days.
You mean more than 90% of abortions are performed in the first trimester? Yes, do get back to us with those stats.
