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I would post a pic of my arsenal, but some of y'all might cream your jeans lol. Also cause my state has been taken over by Demonrats, and has become a Red Flag Law state.
Can you please do? At least for me it is very informative...
At one time I would, in fact did years ago, shit, might even be in this thread or at another forum lol. Had it all spread out on the bed. Ice still got me beat though lol.

Internet is there for information lol. What are you curious about?
To see how much and what kind of weapons people own
 

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The rifle's pretty. But if I had my druthers (and the dollars to make 'em matter) my long gun would be a Springfield Armory M1A SOCOM CQB. To my mind, nothing less than .45 in a handgun, or .308 in a long gun, will do.

It's not that I ever want to have to shoot a person; but if I ever have to shoot a person, I don't see as there's any call to insult the poor sonofabitch on top of it.

Agreed. Mine are a .380, 9mm and .223

I range shoot all of them...mostly my .223.
For the stupid dutch guy that does not have any guns: which one is which?
The smallest one is the .380
The largest pistol is the 9mm
The rifle is a .223
 

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If they break in, prepared to kill you, no matter how many guns you own, you will be too late.
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. But that's not uncommon when dealing with anti-self-defense types.
When you are sleeping and someone break in to kill you? Please explain how you can get the gun before you get shot...

It's under your pillow ;)
OMG You cannot be serious?! What is one of the kids gets in bed with you?
My gun is in my bed at night. My kids sleep in their own room. They do not sleep with me anymore.
Which one do you have with you?
Btw, my kids come by at night, with the most stupid excuses usually, but also the request to sleep with me/us. Your kids probably also, because my kids are not that weird :-) At those times they are dangeresly close to your gun
 

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If they break in, prepared to kill you, no matter how many guns you own, you will be too late.
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. But that's not uncommon when dealing with anti-self-defense types.
When you are sleeping and someone break in to kill you? Please explain how you can get the gun before you get shot...

It's under your pillow ;)
OMG You cannot be serious?! What is one of the kids gets in bed with you?
My gun is in my bed at night. My kids sleep in their own room. They do not sleep with me anymore.
Which one do you have with you?
Btw, my kids come by at night, with the most stupid excuses usually, but also the request to sleep with me/us. Your kids probably also, because my kids are not that weird :-) At those times they are dangeresly close to your gun

What do you mean which one do I have with me? My .223 usually stays in my safe....no need to pull that out to do the job. I keep my .380 on me at all times and my 9mm in my drawer under my panties (just for your entertainment). My son used to come in the bed and sleep with me. Especially when he had a nightmare or was scared but he doesn't anymore. He likes to fall asleep on the couch watching TV. Most nights he is in his room. My daughter never sleeps with me. Lol.
 

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A criminal that breaks in is not looking to be shot to death.
They very well might be looking to kill you. They've already committed one crime by breaking in. Surely you're not stupid enough to bet your life they won't commit another crime by killing you.
Right... well, there is a big difference between a thief and a murderer.... Someone that breaks in has no intention of killing.
That is so ridiculously wrong I don't even know where to begin to address it. Maybe we're talking about two different things: Sometimes a burglar who gets caught in the act because he thought no one was home will run. Sometimes he won't. But home invasions, where the criminal (usually more than one) breaks into the home knowing the occupants are inside, intend violence. If they didn't, they'd wait until they thought the place was empty.

And I'm telling you this from first hand experience. I wasn't always on the right side of the law myself.
If they break in, prepared to kill you, no matter how many guns you own, you will be too late. So why would you have the guns then anyway?

Because not everyone that breaks in will know that YOU'RE prepared.
That will then also mean that they themself do not bear a gun. So.... why shoot them?
To protect yourself and your children. It's not just about protecting your home and the material items you possess. Just because you shoot someone doesn't mean you shoot to kill. It depends on the situation. If you feel your life or your children's lives are in danger then you have the right to shoot to kill because you don't play guessing games when it comes to your life or your child's life at stake. It's not "let me see what this mother fucker is gonna do before I take his ass out".....hesitation could get your ass killed and its not a risk I'm willing to take because I have children to protect. If its night time and I can't see you well enough to know if you're armed or not, I'm not guessing before I pull the trigger. If it's day time and I can see that you are unarmed, I will pull my weapon and hold you there until the police arrive. If you have a gun, your ass is done. At the end of the day it's gonna be me being with my babies or them being motherless and going to a foster home. I'll be damned!!!! Also, you can't play guessing games and play with your children's lives. You don't know if the person breaking in is some rapist pedophile that wants your kids as victims before he strangles them to death.....fucking really??? You must not have children. At the end of the day I will sleep well at night knowing my children are SAFE with a SINGLE MOM that knows how to defend herself and her children from intruders. It all depends on the situation and how well you can assess the situation at night time or during the day. There are a lot of factors that play a role on whether or not you shoot someone to kill, shoot to disarm or hold them there until the cops come.
I understand what you are saying and how you feel you need to protect the kids. By the way, I have 2 kids.
But... protecting here (the Netherlands) is apprently very different from protecting there in the US. We do not have any guns in the house, but the risk of an armed intruder is next to zero. I don't understand why that risk in your place would be so large?
I guess it has to do with culture, locality and how people are raised. The things they go through in life, etc. It's very diverse here. You make the Netherlands sound like its all Candy Land or some shit where there is absolutely a zero percent crime rate.
Well... yes it is. ;-)
No, of course there is crime here too. I just think we handle it in a good way, try to help people so they are not forced to (re)commit crimes. Social care is a big thing here; if you still get some money if you become unemployed you do not have to look for "other ways" (crime) to get money. And when something goes wrong, the prisons here have the goal to get peole back on track. Still there are criminals. Really evil ones like
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. They have killed a lot of people direct or indirect. But that is all criminials between each other and not involving the innocent bystanders.

And yes, I do not feel scared. Even when I am at night in the
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I feel safe. And that is -for the Netherlands- a really tough neighborhood.
 

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That looks like pretty scary stuff. Especially the bottom one.

How do you make sure the kids do not get hold of these?

Gun locks/gun safe. My children know not to touch a gun when they see it because they have been taught. Guns also have a safety on them (a button or a switch) to prevent it from firing when the trigger is pulled. The best thing you can do with children is teach them. Knowledge is power and if you start at an early age you don't end up with "curious" kids. They already know everything about it so there's nothing to be curious about.
Kids, especially when they get to a certain age called puberty, will find holding a gun very cool. Or just a 5 year old that is curious. They can be taught so much, but there is always the risk they will play with a gun if it is within their reach.
And if you lock it, then it is useless to use for protection, because before you get hold of it it might be already too late.
Home invasions during the day probably don't happen as often as they do at night if the person is home. Most burglars wait until the house is empty to intrude. During the day, my gun is accessible to me. It is locked (there is a safety on the gun that prevents it from firing). In some cases you have to pull the slide back to load the bullet in the chamber. Neither one of my children are strong enough to cock a gun. That is the 2nd safety feature on a gun. They can't pull the slide. I don't leave my gun in my children's sight during the day but they know if they see it not to touch it. It is within my reach, though. I can "see" someone coming at me during the day. So the gun is placed in an area, safety on where I can access it easily if need be. At night when my children are sleeping, it is under MY pillow in my room- safety off- locked and loaded. At night time its different because it's difficult to see the intruder which makes it all the more dangerous. That's why I don't take the time to pull the slide back....or leave my safety on. It's ready to go. Different situations- different scenarios. At night time- with me- its less likely you will live....during the day I can see you and more than likely disarm your ass before you fuck with me or my kids. I won't shoot someone in the back UNLESS they are running towards one of my children. If they run out the door of my house I let them go and call 911 if they haven't been called already. Then I let the police handle it.
Are you not scared that the one "invading" is just your drunk neighbour that tries to open the wrong door? Or one of your kids?

If you come towards me and I know you don't have a weapon I won't shoot to kill on the first attempt but you WILL get shot somewhere to bring you down. If you keep advancing, I will shoot to kill because that let's me know you will stop at nothing to try and hurt or kill me. I will drop your ass like flies on shit. No problem.
Why do you make it so personal that you want to shoot me? :'-(
I will do you no harm.
 

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If they break in, prepared to kill you, no matter how many guns you own, you will be too late.
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. But that's not uncommon when dealing with anti-self-defense types.
When you are sleeping and someone break in to kill you? Please explain how you can get the gun before you get shot...

It's under your pillow ;)
OMG You cannot be serious?! What is one of the kids gets in bed with you?
My gun is in my bed at night. My kids sleep in their own room. They do not sleep with me anymore.
Which one do you have with you?
Btw, my kids come by at night, with the most stupid excuses usually, but also the request to sleep with me/us. Your kids probably also, because my kids are not that weird :-) At those times they are dangeresly close to your gun

What do you mean which one do I have with me? My .223 usually stays in my safe....no need to pull that out to do the job. I keep my .380 on me at all times and my 9mm in my drawer under my panties (just for your entertainment). My son used to come in the bed and sleep with me. Especially when he had a nightmare or was scared but he doesn't anymore. He likes to fall asleep on the couch watching TV. Most nights he is in his room. My daughter never sleeps with me. Lol.
I do not know what all the calibers are and which gun is which, but I suppose the large, automatic looking one is in the safe? Why do you have it then?
And where did you keep the gun when your son was sleeping with you?

Yes, I am ignoring the panties-remarkt. Not making any sexually remarks about that. It is hard, but I managed ;-)
 

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Just for you liberal, anti-2nd ammendment, abolish guns bullshitters.....ALL OF YOU CAN KISS MY SOUTHERN ASS!!!!!

The rifle's pretty. But if I had my druthers (and the dollars to make 'em matter) my long gun would be a Springfield Armory M1A SOCOM CQB. To my mind, nothing less than .45 in a handgun, or .308 in a long gun, will do.

It's not that I ever want to have to shoot a person; but if I ever have to shoot a person, I don't see as there's any call to insult the poor sonofabitch on top of it.

Agreed. Mine are a .380, 9mm and .223

I range shoot all of them...mostly my .223.
For the stupid dutch guy that does not have any guns: which one is which?
The smallest one is the .380
The largest pistol is the 9mm
The rifle is a .223
And the rifle is automatic? Or semi?
 

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I would post a pic of my arsenal, but some of y'all might cream your jeans lol. Also cause my state has been taken over by Demonrats, and has become a Red Flag Law state.
Can you please do? At least for me it is very informative...
At one time I would, in fact did years ago, shit, might even be in this thread or at another forum lol. Had it all spread out on the bed. Ice still got me beat though lol.

Internet is there for information lol. What are you curious about?
To see how much and what kind of weapons people own
Ok, fair enough. I'll give you my take....

I have a rifle for long range. Its for hunting big game, but if some shit went down, that would be my first line of defense if zombie/enemies were rushing my place.

Next in line, a shotgun. That is your all around gun. You can hunt with it, big and small game since there are various rounds of ammo, and is damn good at crowd control if necessary.

After that, is a pistol. This is your "go to gun" most the time for defense. Usually used in up close situations. Im a revolver guy, they never jam. But, my revolver is huge, so I've debated a .380 pocket pistol like Casey has, or a snub nose, hammer-less titanium .38.. or a .22 magnum. Just something smaller but effective for when Im out and about. I tell ya what though, my revolver gets a lot of looks, cause its a hand cannon lol.

My dad's old motto, "cause ya never know", was a good one. Society is not as civil here anymore, never really was, and another good motto is "better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6".

Now I have 8 years martial arts experience, even taught officers, but I would rather be safe than sorry, "cause ya never know". I also have skills with other weapons, but this is the gun thread lol.

I've had things happen in my life, and in those moments, I wish I had a gun. Other moments, I did have a gun, didnt need to fire it, but was glad I had it.
 

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I would post a pic of my arsenal, but some of y'all might cream your jeans lol. Also cause my state has been taken over by Demonrats, and has become a Red Flag Law state.
Can you please do? At least for me it is very informative...
At one time I would, in fact did years ago, shit, might even be in this thread or at another forum lol. Had it all spread out on the bed. Ice still got me beat though lol.

Internet is there for information lol. What are you curious about?
To see how much and what kind of weapons people own
Ok, fair enough. I'll give you my take....

I have a rifle for long range. Its for hunting big game, but if some shit went down, that would be my first line of defense if zombie/enemies were rushing my place.

Next in line, a shotgun. That is your all around gun. You can hunt with it, big and small game since there are various rounds of ammo, and is damn good at crowd control if necessary.

After that, is a pistol. This is your "go to gun" most the time for defense. Usually used in up close situations. Im a revolver guy, they never jam. But, my revolver is huge, so I've debated a .380 pocket pistol like Casey has, or a snub nose, hammer-less titanium .38.. or a .22 magnum. Just something smaller but effective for when Im out and about. I tell ya what though, my revolver gets a lot of looks, cause its a hand cannon lol.

My dad's old motto, "cause ya never know", was a good one. Society is not as civil here anymore, never really was, and another good motto is "better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6".

Now I have 8 years martial arts experience, even taught officers, but I would rather be safe than sorry, "cause ya never know". I also have skills with other weapons, but this is the gun thread lol.

I've had things happen in my life, and in those moments, I wish I had a gun. Other moments, I did have a gun, didnt need to fire it, but was glad I had it.
I would post a pic of my arsenal, but some of y'all might cream your jeans lol. Also cause my state has been taken over by Demonrats, and has become a Red Flag Law state.
Can you please do? At least for me it is very informative...
At one time I would, in fact did years ago, shit, might even be in this thread or at another forum lol. Had it all spread out on the bed. Ice still got me beat though lol.

Internet is there for information lol. What are you curious about?
To see how much and what kind of weapons people own
Ok, fair enough. I'll give you my take....

I have a rifle for long range. Its for hunting big game, but if some shit went down, that would be my first line of defense if zombie/enemies were rushing my place.

Next in line, a shotgun. That is your all around gun. You can hunt with it, big and small game since there are various rounds of ammo, and is damn good at crowd control if necessary.

After that, is a pistol. This is your "go to gun" most the time for defense. Usually used in up close situations. Im a revolver guy, they never jam. But, my revolver is huge, so I've debated a .380 pocket pistol like Casey has, or a snub nose, hammer-less titanium .38.. or a .22 magnum. Just something smaller but effective for when Im out and about. I tell ya what though, my revolver gets a lot of looks, cause its a hand cannon lol.

My dad's old motto, "cause ya never know", was a good one. Society is not as civil here anymore, never really was, and another good motto is "better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6".

Now I have 8 years martial arts experience, even taught officers, but I would rather be safe than sorry, "cause ya never know". I also have skills with other weapons, but this is the gun thread lol.

I've had things happen in my life, and in those moments, I wish I had a gun. Other moments, I did have a gun, didnt need to fire it, but was glad I had it.
Thanks!

Why do you think the society has changed? Or maybe even never was like it is in Europe?
 

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I would post a pic of my arsenal, but some of y'all might cream your jeans lol. Also cause my state has been taken over by Demonrats, and has become a Red Flag Law state.
Can you please do? At least for me it is very informative...
At one time I would, in fact did years ago, shit, might even be in this thread or at another forum lol. Had it all spread out on the bed. Ice still got me beat though lol.

Internet is there for information lol. What are you curious about?
To see how much and what kind of weapons people own
Ok, fair enough. I'll give you my take....

I have a rifle for long range. Its for hunting big game, but if some shit went down, that would be my first line of defense if zombie/enemies were rushing my place.

Next in line, a shotgun. That is your all around gun. You can hunt with it, big and small game since there are various rounds of ammo, and is damn good at crowd control if necessary.

After that, is a pistol. This is your "go to gun" most the time for defense. Usually used in up close situations. Im a revolver guy, they never jam. But, my revolver is huge, so I've debated a .380 pocket pistol like Casey has, or a snub nose, hammer-less titanium .38.. or a .22 magnum. Just something smaller but effective for when Im out and about. I tell ya what though, my revolver gets a lot of looks, cause its a hand cannon lol.

My dad's old motto, "cause ya never know", was a good one. Society is not as civil here anymore, never really was, and another good motto is "better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6".

Now I have 8 years martial arts experience, even taught officers, but I would rather be safe than sorry, "cause ya never know". I also have skills with other weapons, but this is the gun thread lol.

I've had things happen in my life, and in those moments, I wish I had a gun. Other moments, I did have a gun, didnt need to fire it, but was glad I had it.
I would post a pic of my arsenal, but some of y'all might cream your jeans lol. Also cause my state has been taken over by Demonrats, and has become a Red Flag Law state.
Can you please do? At least for me it is very informative...
At one time I would, in fact did years ago, shit, might even be in this thread or at another forum lol. Had it all spread out on the bed. Ice still got me beat though lol.

Internet is there for information lol. What are you curious about?
To see how much and what kind of weapons people own
Ok, fair enough. I'll give you my take....

I have a rifle for long range. Its for hunting big game, but if some shit went down, that would be my first line of defense if zombie/enemies were rushing my place.

Next in line, a shotgun. That is your all around gun. You can hunt with it, big and small game since there are various rounds of ammo, and is damn good at crowd control if necessary.

After that, is a pistol. This is your "go to gun" most the time for defense. Usually used in up close situations. Im a revolver guy, they never jam. But, my revolver is huge, so I've debated a .380 pocket pistol like Casey has, or a snub nose, hammer-less titanium .38.. or a .22 magnum. Just something smaller but effective for when Im out and about. I tell ya what though, my revolver gets a lot of looks, cause its a hand cannon lol.

My dad's old motto, "cause ya never know", was a good one. Society is not as civil here anymore, never really was, and another good motto is "better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6".

Now I have 8 years martial arts experience, even taught officers, but I would rather be safe than sorry, "cause ya never know". I also have skills with other weapons, but this is the gun thread lol.

I've had things happen in my life, and in those moments, I wish I had a gun. Other moments, I did have a gun, didnt need to fire it, but was glad I had it.
Thanks!

Why do you think the society has changed? Or maybe even never was like it is in Europe?

Now we are talking conspiracy theories lol. Because certain elites now own the majority of the media, and they are pushing an agenda, trying to instigate a race war, or maybe a Left vs Right war. "They" have 100's of D.U.M.B.s here in the states, not for the citizens. The biggest one is under the Denver airport. All connected with deep underground magnetic rail systems. They want this to happen, they go under, we fight it out, martial law declared, folks rounded up and thrown in FEMA camps. The media perpetuates all this violence, the way they spin things.

Have you not noticed all the hate, destruction, and murdering that has been going on here in the states lately? They are walking up to 5 year old whites kids and blasting them in the head. Its gotten insane.
 

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That looks like pretty scary stuff. Especially the bottom one.

How do you make sure the kids do not get hold of these?

Gun locks/gun safe. My children know not to touch a gun when they see it because they have been taught. Guns also have a safety on them (a button or a switch) to prevent it from firing when the trigger is pulled. The best thing you can do with children is teach them. Knowledge is power and if you start at an early age you don't end up with "curious" kids. They already know everything about it so there's nothing to be curious about.
Kids, especially when they get to a certain age called puberty, will find holding a gun very cool. Or just a 5 year old that is curious. They can be taught so much, but there is always the risk they will play with a gun if it is within their reach.
And if you lock it, then it is useless to use for protection, because before you get hold of it it might be already too late.
Home invasions during the day probably don't happen as often as they do at night if the person is home. Most burglars wait until the house is empty to intrude. During the day, my gun is accessible to me. It is locked (there is a safety on the gun that prevents it from firing). In some cases you have to pull the slide back to load the bullet in the chamber. Neither one of my children are strong enough to cock a gun. That is the 2nd safety feature on a gun. They can't pull the slide. I don't leave my gun in my children's sight during the day but they know if they see it not to touch it. It is within my reach, though. I can "see" someone coming at me during the day. So the gun is placed in an area, safety on where I can access it easily if need be. At night when my children are sleeping, it is under MY pillow in my room- safety off- locked and loaded. At night time its different because it's difficult to see the intruder which makes it all the more dangerous. That's why I don't take the time to pull the slide back....or leave my safety on. It's ready to go. Different situations- different scenarios. At night time- with me- its less likely you will live....during the day I can see you and more than likely disarm your ass before you fuck with me or my kids. I won't shoot someone in the back UNLESS they are running towards one of my children. If they run out the door of my house I let them go and call 911 if they haven't been called already. Then I let the police handle it.
Are you not scared that the one "invading" is just your drunk neighbour that tries to open the wrong door? Or one of your kids?

If you come towards me and I know you don't have a weapon I won't shoot to kill on the first attempt but you WILL get shot somewhere to bring you down. If you keep advancing, I will shoot to kill because that let's me know you will stop at nothing to try and hurt or kill me. I will drop your ass like flies on shit. No problem.
Why do you make it so personal that you want to shoot me? :'-(
I will do you no harm.

Lol I was using it as a reference....not that I'd actually shoot you....kinda 3rd person. I'm not worried about ever shooting one of my kids. I would never do that. If perhaps my child did wake up in the middle of the night and come in my room meddling or messing with things I would know it was them. I don't just wake up and start shooting. I do take a few seconds to evaluate the situation prior to playing Annie Oakley. If my son or daughter ever decides they want to sleep with me I always FEEL them get into my bed. I would move my pistol from under my pillow and place it at the very edge of my bed between my mattress on the side I am sleeping on. I assure you, I take every precautionary measure and assess every situation prior to pulling the trigger. My rifle is semi-automatic and no, it's not an assault rifle. Most people think AR stands for assault rifle but it doesn't.
It stands for "Arma-lite Rifle". Some leftist and anti-gun degenerates call it an assault rifle and giving it a bad name without educating themselves prior to their dumb ass assumptions and insinuations.
 

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Have you not noticed all the hate, destruction, and murdering that has been going on here in the states lately? They are walking up to 5 year old whites kids and blasting them in the head. Its gotten insane.
Yes, that is exactly what we are noticing from our distance in Europe. For years now it's getting worse and worse. Under Obama some things actually were going better and then Dickhead Trump came to break everything down again and even getting below the level of BEFORE Obama.

But - to get a bit back on the subject- don't you think that those kids would not be killed if there were less weapons? Having a weapon allows you to kill for good, but also for bad. Every insane idiot (mentally ill) person van buy a gun and use it. Your first crime is it easy to get a gun, because you can just go to Walmart. Only after you have been convicted more strict rules are applied to you.
 

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Just for you liberal, anti-2nd ammendment, abolish guns bullshitters.....ALL OF YOU CAN KISS MY SOUTHERN ASS!!!!!
That looks like pretty scary stuff. Especially the bottom one.

How do you make sure the kids do not get hold of these?

Gun locks/gun safe. My children know not to touch a gun when they see it because they have been taught. Guns also have a safety on them (a button or a switch) to prevent it from firing when the trigger is pulled. The best thing you can do with children is teach them. Knowledge is power and if you start at an early age you don't end up with "curious" kids. They already know everything about it so there's nothing to be curious about.
Kids, especially when they get to a certain age called puberty, will find holding a gun very cool. Or just a 5 year old that is curious. They can be taught so much, but there is always the risk they will play with a gun if it is within their reach.
And if you lock it, then it is useless to use for protection, because before you get hold of it it might be already too late.
Home invasions during the day probably don't happen as often as they do at night if the person is home. Most burglars wait until the house is empty to intrude. During the day, my gun is accessible to me. It is locked (there is a safety on the gun that prevents it from firing). In some cases you have to pull the slide back to load the bullet in the chamber. Neither one of my children are strong enough to cock a gun. That is the 2nd safety feature on a gun. They can't pull the slide. I don't leave my gun in my children's sight during the day but they know if they see it not to touch it. It is within my reach, though. I can "see" someone coming at me during the day. So the gun is placed in an area, safety on where I can access it easily if need be. At night when my children are sleeping, it is under MY pillow in my room- safety off- locked and loaded. At night time its different because it's difficult to see the intruder which makes it all the more dangerous. That's why I don't take the time to pull the slide back....or leave my safety on. It's ready to go. Different situations- different scenarios. At night time- with me- its less likely you will live....during the day I can see you and more than likely disarm your ass before you fuck with me or my kids. I won't shoot someone in the back UNLESS they are running towards one of my children. If they run out the door of my house I let them go and call 911 if they haven't been called already. Then I let the police handle it.
Are you not scared that the one "invading" is just your drunk neighbour that tries to open the wrong door? Or one of your kids?

If you come towards me and I know you don't have a weapon I won't shoot to kill on the first attempt but you WILL get shot somewhere to bring you down. If you keep advancing, I will shoot to kill because that let's me know you will stop at nothing to try and hurt or kill me. I will drop your ass like flies on shit. No problem.
Why do you make it so personal that you want to shoot me? :'-(
I will do you no harm.

Lol I was using it as a reference....not that I'd actually shoot you....kinda 3rd person. I'm not worried about ever shooting one of my kids. I would never do that. If perhaps my child did wake up in the middle of the night and come in my room meddling or messing with things I would know it was them. I don't just wake up and start shooting. I do take a few seconds to evaluate the situation prior to playing Annie Oakley. If my son or daughter ever decides they want to sleep with me I always FEEL them get into my bed. I would move my pistol from under my pillow and place it at the very edge of my bed between my mattress on the side I am sleeping on. I assure you, I take every precautionary measure and assess every situation prior to pulling the trigger. My rifle is semi-automatic and no, it's not an assault rifle. Most people think AR stands for assault rifle but it doesn't.
It stands for "Arma-lite Rifle". Some leftist and anti-gun degenerates call it an assault rifle and giving it a bad name without educating themselves prior to their dumb ass assumptions and insinuations.
Oke, I trust that you are using your gun in a responsible manner, but what about all the other people in the US? EVERYONE can have a gun and apparently MOST people have one. This means that also the "less intelligent" will have a gun. Those people will not clean/maintain it on a regular basis. They will leave the gun on the coffee table while they are at work. Their kids are not educated, because of the simle fact that they are not capable to educate their kids and don't even think about it.

You are probably not the big risk of accidents, but what about those people?
 

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That looks like pretty scary stuff. Especially the bottom one.

How do you make sure the kids do not get hold of these?

Gun locks/gun safe. My children know not to touch a gun when they see it because they have been taught. Guns also have a safety on them (a button or a switch) to prevent it from firing when the trigger is pulled. The best thing you can do with children is teach them. Knowledge is power and if you start at an early age you don't end up with "curious" kids. They already know everything about it so there's nothing to be curious about.
Kids, especially when they get to a certain age called puberty, will find holding a gun very cool. Or just a 5 year old that is curious. They can be taught so much, but there is always the risk they will play with a gun if it is within their reach.
And if you lock it, then it is useless to use for protection, because before you get hold of it it might be already too late.
Home invasions during the day probably don't happen as often as they do at night if the person is home. Most burglars wait until the house is empty to intrude. During the day, my gun is accessible to me. It is locked (there is a safety on the gun that prevents it from firing). In some cases you have to pull the slide back to load the bullet in the chamber. Neither one of my children are strong enough to cock a gun. That is the 2nd safety feature on a gun. They can't pull the slide. I don't leave my gun in my children's sight during the day but they know if they see it not to touch it. It is within my reach, though. I can "see" someone coming at me during the day. So the gun is placed in an area, safety on where I can access it easily if need be. At night when my children are sleeping, it is under MY pillow in my room- safety off- locked and loaded. At night time its different because it's difficult to see the intruder which makes it all the more dangerous. That's why I don't take the time to pull the slide back....or leave my safety on. It's ready to go. Different situations- different scenarios. At night time- with me- its less likely you will live....during the day I can see you and more than likely disarm your ass before you fuck with me or my kids. I won't shoot someone in the back UNLESS they are running towards one of my children. If they run out the door of my house I let them go and call 911 if they haven't been called already. Then I let the police handle it.
Are you not scared that the one "invading" is just your drunk neighbour that tries to open the wrong door? Or one of your kids?

If you come towards me and I know you don't have a weapon I won't shoot to kill on the first attempt but you WILL get shot somewhere to bring you down. If you keep advancing, I will shoot to kill because that let's me know you will stop at nothing to try and hurt or kill me. I will drop your ass like flies on shit. No problem.
Why do you make it so personal that you want to shoot me? :'-(
I will do you no harm.

Lol I was using it as a reference....not that I'd actually shoot you....kinda 3rd person. I'm not worried about ever shooting one of my kids. I would never do that. If perhaps my child did wake up in the middle of the night and come in my room meddling or messing with things I would know it was them. I don't just wake up and start shooting. I do take a few seconds to evaluate the situation prior to playing Annie Oakley. If my son or daughter ever decides they want to sleep with me I always FEEL them get into my bed. I would move my pistol from under my pillow and place it at the very edge of my bed between my mattress on the side I am sleeping on. I assure you, I take every precautionary measure and assess every situation prior to pulling the trigger. My rifle is semi-automatic and no, it's not an assault rifle. Most people think AR stands for assault rifle but it doesn't.
It stands for "Arma-lite Rifle". Some leftist and anti-gun degenerates call it an assault rifle and giving it a bad name without educating themselves prior to their dumb ass assumptions and insinuations.
Oke, I trust that you are using your gun in a responsible manner, but what about all the other people in the US? EVERYONE can have a gun and apparently MOST people have one. This means that also the "less intelligent" will have a gun. Those people will not clean/maintain it on a regular basis. They will leave the gun on the coffee table while they are at work. Their kids are not educated, because of the simle fact that they are not capable to educate their kids and don't even think about it.

You are probably not the big risk of accidents, but what about those people?

I understand your point of view and I respect it. Let's take this to a different level. Let's say that all guns are illegal. You can't own one whether you're a criminal or not. Doesn't matter the circumstances. Now, what happens to the people that use their gun as a tool to hunt their food? People that don't go to the supermarket for their food? Do they just starve because guns aren't allowed? You see, there are more "good" reasons to own a gun than there are bad. Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Example: you think all guns should be banned because of the BAD side of things. Does that mean that the GOOD side is expendable because of the bad? Like the bad overrides the good? If you take guns away, criminals will find another way to obtain them or find other means to hurt/kill someone with a different weapon. The gun is irrelevant because it is a diverse tool. People use knives, baseball bats, a crowbar, etc. to get the job done. I'd rather get shot to death than beaten in the head or stabbed multiple times. That's a stupid thing to say but there's some logic to what I'm saying. A gun is somewhat "merciful" when it comes to killing vs. using other weapons that can cause prolonged suffering (more than likely). I would rather not die at all or be put in that situation. So should we ban ALL tools that are used as "weapons" because bad shit can happen with them? No. We need those tools. A gun is a TOOL used as a weapon. A knife is a TOOL used as a weapon. A crowbar, machete, baseball bat, bow, etc. are all TOOLS that can be used as weapons. It doesn't mean we should take them away because of the risk of harm they could cause when in the hands of the wrong people.
 

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This Dutch idiot seems to think he knows sooooo much about guns but he doesn't know squat.

I'm sure if he was a farmer he would let a fox kill all of the chickens in the hen house. Or perhaps if he was a rancher he would let grizzlies and cougars kill all of his newborn calves and lambs.

Wild game including moose,elk and deer fed us when we were growing up but no....guns are bad and people who have guns are bad.

Unfuckingbelieveable.:facepalm:
 

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This Dutch idiot seems to think he knows sooooo much about guns but he doesn't know squat.

I'm sure if he was a farmer he would let a fox kill all of the chickens in the hen house. Or perhaps if he was a rancher he would let grizzlies and cougars kill all of his newborn calves and lambs.

Wild game including moose,elk and deer fed us when we were growing up but no....guns are bad and people who have guns are bad.

Unfuckingbelieveable.:facepalm:
How did you aquire all this knowledge about me?

Maybe just a lack of valid arguments? This is so pypical american; you do not have arguments, so you start accusing the other person with imaginary stuff. Maybe I an demented? Oh, or maybe I am a criminal. Let's check my record if I ever had a traffic violations. because that surely would make me unreliable....

Come on! Let's be adults and stick with the topic.
 

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Just for you liberal, anti-2nd ammendment, abolish guns bullshitters.....ALL OF YOU CAN KISS MY SOUTHERN ASS!!!!!
That looks like pretty scary stuff. Especially the bottom one.

How do you make sure the kids do not get hold of these?

Gun locks/gun safe. My children know not to touch a gun when they see it because they have been taught. Guns also have a safety on them (a button or a switch) to prevent it from firing when the trigger is pulled. The best thing you can do with children is teach them. Knowledge is power and if you start at an early age you don't end up with "curious" kids. They already know everything about it so there's nothing to be curious about.
Kids, especially when they get to a certain age called puberty, will find holding a gun very cool. Or just a 5 year old that is curious. They can be taught so much, but there is always the risk they will play with a gun if it is within their reach.
And if you lock it, then it is useless to use for protection, because before you get hold of it it might be already too late.
Home invasions during the day probably don't happen as often as they do at night if the person is home. Most burglars wait until the house is empty to intrude. During the day, my gun is accessible to me. It is locked (there is a safety on the gun that prevents it from firing). In some cases you have to pull the slide back to load the bullet in the chamber. Neither one of my children are strong enough to cock a gun. That is the 2nd safety feature on a gun. They can't pull the slide. I don't leave my gun in my children's sight during the day but they know if they see it not to touch it. It is within my reach, though. I can "see" someone coming at me during the day. So the gun is placed in an area, safety on where I can access it easily if need be. At night when my children are sleeping, it is under MY pillow in my room- safety off- locked and loaded. At night time its different because it's difficult to see the intruder which makes it all the more dangerous. That's why I don't take the time to pull the slide back....or leave my safety on. It's ready to go. Different situations- different scenarios. At night time- with me- its less likely you will live....during the day I can see you and more than likely disarm your ass before you fuck with me or my kids. I won't shoot someone in the back UNLESS they are running towards one of my children. If they run out the door of my house I let them go and call 911 if they haven't been called already. Then I let the police handle it.
Are you not scared that the one "invading" is just your drunk neighbour that tries to open the wrong door? Or one of your kids?

If you come towards me and I know you don't have a weapon I won't shoot to kill on the first attempt but you WILL get shot somewhere to bring you down. If you keep advancing, I will shoot to kill because that let's me know you will stop at nothing to try and hurt or kill me. I will drop your ass like flies on shit. No problem.
Why do you make it so personal that you want to shoot me? :'-(
I will do you no harm.

Lol I was using it as a reference....not that I'd actually shoot you....kinda 3rd person. I'm not worried about ever shooting one of my kids. I would never do that. If perhaps my child did wake up in the middle of the night and come in my room meddling or messing with things I would know it was them. I don't just wake up and start shooting. I do take a few seconds to evaluate the situation prior to playing Annie Oakley. If my son or daughter ever decides they want to sleep with me I always FEEL them get into my bed. I would move my pistol from under my pillow and place it at the very edge of my bed between my mattress on the side I am sleeping on. I assure you, I take every precautionary measure and assess every situation prior to pulling the trigger. My rifle is semi-automatic and no, it's not an assault rifle. Most people think AR stands for assault rifle but it doesn't.
It stands for "Arma-lite Rifle". Some leftist and anti-gun degenerates call it an assault rifle and giving it a bad name without educating themselves prior to their dumb ass assumptions and insinuations.
Oke, I trust that you are using your gun in a responsible manner, but what about all the other people in the US? EVERYONE can have a gun and apparently MOST people have one. This means that also the "less intelligent" will have a gun. Those people will not clean/maintain it on a regular basis. They will leave the gun on the coffee table while they are at work. Their kids are not educated, because of the simle fact that they are not capable to educate their kids and don't even think about it.

You are probably not the big risk of accidents, but what about those people?

I understand your point of view and I respect it. Let's take this to a different level. Let's say that all guns are illegal. You can't own one whether you're a criminal or not. Doesn't matter the circumstances. Now, what happens to the people that use their gun as a tool to hunt their food? People that don't go to the supermarket for their food? Do they just starve because guns aren't allowed? You see, there are more "good" reasons to own a gun than there are bad. Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Example: you think all guns should be banned because of the BAD side of things. Does that mean that the GOOD side is expendable because of the bad? Like the bad overrides the good? If you take guns away, criminals will find another way to obtain them or find other means to hurt/kill someone with a different weapon. The gun is irrelevant because it is a diverse tool. People use knives, baseball bats, a crowbar, etc. to get the job done. I'd rather get shot to death than beaten in the head or stabbed multiple times. That's a stupid thing to say but there's some logic to what I'm saying. A gun is somewhat "merciful" when it comes to killing vs. using other weapons that can cause prolonged suffering (more than likely). I would rather not die at all or be put in that situation. So should we ban ALL tools that are used as "weapons" because bad shit can happen with them? No. We need those tools. A gun is a TOOL used as a weapon. A knife is a TOOL used as a weapon. A crowbar, machete, baseball bat, bow, etc. are all TOOLS that can be used as weapons. It doesn't mean we should take them away because of the risk of harm they could cause when in the hands of the wrong people.
You take it pretty far into the extreme, but sure you are allowed to do that. I just think that we did not really understand each other, but that is also my fault.

I do not want to ban guns completely. That WOULD be stupid. Guns exist and we need some people on "our side" that own the guns and know how to use these.
I just have the opinion that not EVERYONE should be able to own a gun. I also kow it was not intended like that, that is an incorrect explanation of the 2nd amendment (marketing stunt from the NRA / large gun manufacturers).

I think that guns should be owned by trained professionals if it regards prevention & stopping of criminals. That would be the police, FBI, army, etc.
Next to this professional usage of guns, there is also the recreational part. Yes, shooting guns is also a sport. But why not keep the guns intended for sports at the shooting range? In a safe locker, only to be opened by the rightful owner. That person should also be trained in usage of a gun and its maintenance.
Hunting, another valid useage of guns. But again the person having the gun should be trained. Also this is another kind of weapons. You can still kill with it, but -as you said- there are other options like knifes also. The persons that have guns for hunting can also store their weapons in a safe location, for example a shooting range.

Certain types of weapons should be only available for the professionals: army, police, etc.
Personal gun ownership can be valid, but only in a safe way and only for the people who are mentally stable enough, not a criminal, adult, etc. And the gun should be kept out of reach of kids.

That is my OPINION. This is based on how we do it here where I live. I know this works, but I also know that getting there from where america is now is a long long way to go. But that is not a reason to not do anything and let innocent people die.
A good first step would be to have a better screening of people that want to have a gun and not simply allow everyone. Let's first proof that that person can handle a gun in an adult and safe way.
Do you not follow the rules? Then you loose the right to own a gun. No valid use for it? No gun! Do we find out you let kids play with it? No gun! You want to buy an automatic gun? Sorry, those are for the pro's.
 

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Why do you feel you have to have a badge to own a gun. I know some of the best SNIPERS that aren't a part of the military, FBI or any government agency for that matter. You don't need to be a professional to know how to responsibly use a gun. Sometimes people with CWP's actually SAVE LIVES in a public setting. For example: a man that LEGALLY owns a gun is shopping inside a store. Two armed robbers come in and try to hold folks hostage or rob the place. By law and his legal right, the man that has a CWP (concealed weapons permit) can pull his weapon to defend himself and other people in that store. The only exception to this are places that have signs that say "no concealed weapons allowed". In this case, only law enforcement is allowed to enter in any location with a gun. People go through a screening process here to own a gun. You can't just go in a store/pawn shop and buy a gun without going through a process, first. Criminals aren't allowed to legally own guns depending on the crime they were convicted of. Example: if you go to jail because you didn't pay your child support, you can still own a gun because that's not a violent crime. If you go to jail for criminal domestic violence, your "legal" gun owning days are over. It varies but it's fair. I do agree with you when you say people with mental instabilities shouldn't own a gun.