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You cant be serious?
Do police carry guns in their hand?
Imagine how much different Colombine would have been if one of those teachers had a gun. Imagine if Patti Neilson was armed. That whole 4 hour library shoot out could have been avoided.
...and yet a gun is still only a tool.
And if a person doesn't know how to use it properly or WHEN to deploy it, then it may not help that much.
Likewise, a person can make a fist, but other than looking fierce like a boxer/martial artist, it's knowing how to deliver a punch with it which determines its effectiveness or lethal effect.
An ordinary civilian with a gun and a trained policeman with a firearm is like night and day.
True Joe. But people who haven't shot a gun a day in their lives have a better chance than someone who is unarmed.
Nothing is ever guaranteed ......its about what makes your chances better.
The vast majority of gun owners(who are law abiding citizens) have taken classes, and go to ranges.
Many criminals have never been trained to use their guns. Have you ever seen how gang bangers or thugs will hold their guns? Lmao.
The Kid who killed his challenger at that Fedex plant, was just a pipsqueak - an Incel.
So the challenger was probably not experienced nor trained to deal with that kind of situation.
I don't think a prson can just fire at a practice range and then expect to be prepared to deasl with someone who's essentially a terrorist in a mass shooting situation.
That takes an entirely different level of training and mental/physical fitness altogether.
I bet that kid was even less trained, Joe.
Sometimes it goes poorly.
Even police get shot and killed, and they are very trained. Trained better than who shot them.
But again, your chances are MUCH better if you are armed. And all the incidents where an armed citizen was in that position and successfully defended themselves or another shows that.
You just dont hear nearly as much about those.
If there had been more than just 1 challenger that kid would have been taken down. I doubt he would have been able to get a shot on 5 challengers or even 3.
Oh I don't dismiss guns as a deterrent or a possible intervention that could save your life, Dovey.
And I've noticed how these mass shootings, stabbings, murders, whatever are becoming more and more frequent. Even where I live.
Here's a case in my city, where a young man walked into a library, stabbed 6 people and left one dead:
...and that was just a month ago.
...and here's another that happened across the other side of the country a year ago where a mass shooting occurred in Nova Scotia, leaving a policewoman dead:
That shooter killed 22 people in what is normally considered a very peaceful part of Canada.
Even the police couldn't deal with him. And those were the National Equivalent of the FBI.
So...these kind of events make me think not just just about arming one's self, but learning counterrorism and martial arts technques as well.
ARE they becoming more frequent, though? Or are they just reported on more frequently?
We have militias here that are made up of ex military, national guards, regular citizens (of all colors...btw) who train vigorously.
They are smeared as "rag rag white supremacists" basically only because they are using their constitutional rights with no apology and are small government right leaners(mostly.....we have left wing militias which are all kinds of fucked up).
There are A LOT of armed US citizens who are very well trained.
Mass Murderers come from every race and age group, Dovey.
One thing's fer sure tho - they're mostly men.
In fact...I think they're always men. We own this distinction, that's fer usre.
You women aint gonna catch up to us in this dept.
No siree!
We're still No. 1 in this category!
We own it.
They are all men, and they are by far mostly white, with an occasional black or brown person thrown in there.
ONLY when you ignore the most frequent gun crime. Which is inner city gang violence and cartel violence.
You have to ignore all that and solely focus on shootings the media uses to encourage partisan hostility to our rights.
If more people with legal guns were present during these shootings it would save more lives.
What you want to do is make sure none of these shooters have any challengers. Just like inner city violence where law abiding residents cannot protect themselves.