Can I ask a ?
Whose parenting are ya’ll taking shots at? My kid didn’t go to college, but he’s a longshoreman now. My girls didn’t go to college either, but both have careers in accounting and nursing.
I haven’t read the whole thread but I’m curious.
I think everyone needs to pursue higher education and not just so they can make more money.
I don't think so. I think people can have trade skills as long as they are productive members of society. It's important that all people have the curiosity to explore the very big world out there too.
I have one friend with multiple degrees who is the father of a 6 yo girl who he said he will push to do trade-school before college. My issue with that is that then you’re only exposed to the material for your trade.
Think back to when you were in your first and second year of college and all you were exposed to just with the basic general curriculum. I changed majors 2x before deciding which direction I was heading in.
My children have seen me go back to school for refresher courses and to pursue art, which has been a lifelong interest if mine, several times… I believe an education is a lifelong process.
That's exactly my problem with it. The whole 2000-year-old concept behind liberal arts education is to help form a well-rounded citizen who knows about many things and can thus participate fully in civic life, not to necessarily learn a trade.
my best friend is from a longline of college graduates.. her parents have 10 degrees between them….her father is an attorney and her mother is an elementary school teacher (private Catholic)
I’m fascinated by every conversation I have ever had with her parents… and my bestie is one of the most well read, brilliant minds you will ever meet… she is also a single mother doing a fantastic job in the midst of a deadbeat father for her only child.
A lot of Muricans who haven't bothered with education are very motivated to participate fully in civic life. But because they know nothing about anything, they join communities like Q-Anon, Trump fans, flat earth groups, etc, as a way to feel involved. They are jealous of people who are able to have conversations like yours with your friends, because they don't understand a word of it. But then they go on and on about how the smart people are stupid, and claim they are the smart ones in order to make themselves feel better. It's stupefying.
There was a study done to see how Americans view themselves. They were given activities and had to rate how well they thought they did.
Almost all of them saw themselves as above average, and most of them were BELOW average. It's calles Dunning-Kruger.
The ones who scores ABOVE average all rated themselves as average or lower.
It turns out that very intelligent people are most likely to be humble and teachable.
And the below average people will always think of themselves as more than they are and be more unreachable. If you believe you have all the answers and are above other people, you dont learn anything.
Literally no one here is Qanon.
Instead of assuming people voted for Trump because they are dumb, or because of some character defects they have, you could learn WHY peoplw think the way they do. And hear out thier answers instead of going "bullshit" and then assigning your own bias judgements.
I mean sure you guys can prop eachother up and try to reaffirm your self perceived intelligence and seeming people who agree with you as intelligent but that's where that bucks stops because no one outside of the lefty club sees sophistry, insults, ad hominem, contempt and failure to support your positions as signs of intelligence.
Intelligent people do not need to reaffirm thier intelligence like you guys often do either.
You guys just read like smug, closed minded elitests.
