April is Confederate History Month!

[Joe]

Hell Sherman was killing slaves too down here. He pushed them into the ocean with bayonets to drown them, to "save on ammo".

As I posted in another thread, Serhman must've killed a lot of innocent White civilians too by ordering entire cities like Atlanta to be burned to the ground.

And yet, while BLM/ANTIFA acitivists demand that statues of Nathan Bedford Forrest, Robert E. Lee & others get taken down, the same treatment is not demanded for Sherman, who by all accounts, is guilty of modern War crimes. So the activists judge the Confederates by a modern standard, but then fail to do the same for Sherman.

Sherman's statues get to remain, while the Confederates are ordered taken down.

Sherman's should be taken down too.

You can't have a double historical standard and expect your country to remain united.

 

[Blazor]

Hell Sherman was killing slaves too down here. He pushed them into the ocean with bayonets to drown them, to "save on ammo".

Another war tactic reason Lincoln did the EP, was because of other countries wanting to help the South. By claiming it was a fight for slavery, those countries backed off.

As I posted in another thread, Serhman must've killed a lot of innocent White civilians too by ordering entire cities like Atlanta to be burned to the ground.

And yet, while BLM/ANTIFA acitivists demand that statues of Nathan Bedford Forrest, Robert E. Lee & others get taken down, the same treatment is not demanded for Sherman, who by all accounts, is guilty of modern War crimes. So the activists judge the Confederates by a modern standard, but then fail to do the same for Sherman.

Sherman's statues get to remain, while the Confederates are ordered taken down.

Sherman's should be taken down too.

You can't have a double historical standard and expect your country to remain united.

Sherman was the worst!! We despise him down here. He killed so many, burned so much.

Sherman was even quoted saying "if the war was over slavery, I would join the South", or something like that lol.

 

[Joe]

Hell Sherman was killing slaves too down here. He pushed them into the ocean with bayonets to drown them, to "save on ammo".

Another war tactic reason Lincoln did the EP, was because of other countries wanting to help the South. By claiming it was a fight for slavery, those countries backed off.

As I posted in another thread, Serhman must've killed a lot of innocent White civilians too by ordering entire cities like Atlanta to be burned to the ground.

And yet, while BLM/ANTIFA acitivists demand that statues of Nathan Bedford Forrest, Robert E. Lee & others get taken down, the same treatment is not demanded for Sherman, who by all accounts, is guilty of modern War crimes. So the activists judge the Confederates by a modern standard, but then fail to do the same for Sherman.

Sherman's statues get to remain, while the Confederates are ordered taken down.

Sherman's should be taken down too.

You can't have a double historical standard and expect your country to remain united.

Sherman was the worst!! We despise him down here. He killed so many, burned so much.

Sherman was even quoted saying "if the war was over slavery, I would join the South", or something like that lol.

While I think some statues ought to be taken down, if social activists try to judge 19th century society by 21st century standards, then they can find fault with everything. Especially in a time of war, and before War Crimes tribunals and International Laws existed.

I kind of think war monuments should be left alone on either side, because they can't really be judged by the standards from another century when the laws were not on the books or were entirely different.

That being said, I think certain individuals who enacted draconian laws during peacetime which led to conflicts such as the Civil War should be removed such as Chief Justice Roger B. Taney, the author of the erroneous Dred Scott decision.

 

[Joe]

Here's an article from the Atlantic Monthly in which the author, a History Professor, describes the Confederacy as a racist & oppressive Autocratic State:

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Americans are now debating the fate of memorials to the Confederacy—statues, flags, and names on Army bases, streets, schools, and college dormitories. A century and a half of propaganda has successfully obscured the nature of the Confederate cause and its bloody history, wrapping it in myth. But the Confederacy is not part of “our American heritage,” as President Donald Trump recently claimed, nor should it stand as a libertarian symbol of small government and resistance to federal tyranny. For the four years of its existence, until it was forced to surrender, the Confederate States of America was a pro-slavery nation at war against the United States. The C.S.A. was a big, centralized state, devoted to securing a society in which enslavement to white people was the permanent and inherited condition of all people of African descent.

...thing is, oppressive compared to what? The 21st Century? Or other world states of that time - the 19th century?

Was the South any less democratic than many European countries which practised serfdom & had widespread poverty? Was the North a democratic society which granted rights to all its citizens? Were women granted the right to vote in the North? Or own property with ease there? Were they free from discrimination in the workforce?

The key error of this author is she judges the Confederacy with the context of the present not the past. While certainly not a Paradise, the South was probably no worse than many nations in the 19th century. Life was just as dismal for the average European and certainly worse in nations like Japan or China during that period. As imperfect as the South may have been, at least many of its White citizens could vote in a multiparty system. Contrast this with Europe, where there was no democracy at all in most of those nations. Plus the European Empires which condemned the South for its slavery practices had their own - colonialism. So England and France were so hard on the Confederacy without realizing or admitting that they were doing the same thing. Just not within their own borders but in their colonies.

Even in England, which was the most advanced European nation at that time, living conditions for most of its citizens were horrid if the 19th century writings of Charles Dickens are any indication.

 

[Blazor]

Here's an article from the Atlantic Monthly in which the author, a History Professor, describes the Confederacy as a racist & oppressive Autocratic State:

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Americans are now debating the fate of memorials to the Confederacy—statues, flags, and names on Army bases, streets, schools, and college dormitories. A century and a half of propaganda has successfully obscured the nature of the Confederate cause and its bloody history, wrapping it in myth. But the Confederacy is not part of “our American heritage,” as President Donald Trump recently claimed, nor should it stand as a libertarian symbol of small government and resistance to federal tyranny. For the four years of its existence, until it was forced to surrender, the Confederate States of America was a pro-slavery nation at war against the United States. The C.S.A. was a big, centralized state, devoted to securing a society in which enslavement to white people was the permanent and inherited condition of all people of African descent.

...thing is, oppressive compared to what? The 21st Century? Or other world states of that time - the 19th century?

Was the South any less democratic than many European countries which practised serfdom & had widespread poverty? Was the North a democratic society which granted rights to all its citizens? Were women granted the right to vote in the North? Or own property with ease there? Were they free from discrimination in the workforce?

The key error of this author is she judges the Confederacy with the context of the present not the past. While certainly not a Paradise, the South was probably no worse than many nations in the 19th century. Life was just as dismal for the average European and certainly worse in nations like Japan or China during that period. As imperfect as the South may have been, at least many of its White citizens could vote in a multiparty system. Contrast this with Europe, where there was no democracy at all in most of those nations. Plus the European Empires which condemned the South for its slavery practices had their own - colonialism. So England and France were so hard on the Confederacy without realizing or admitting that they were doing the same thing. Just not within their own borders but in their colonies.

Even in England, which was the most advanced European nation at that time, living conditions for most of its citizens were horrid if the 19th century writings of Charles Dickens are any indication.

Speaking of Charles Dickens.....

“The Northern onslaught upon slavery was no more than a piece of specious humbug designed to conceal its desire for economic control of the Southern states.”
Charles Dickens, 1862

 

[Joe]

Here's an article from the Atlantic Monthly in which the author, a History Professor, describes the Confederacy as a racist & oppressive Autocratic State:

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Americans are now debating the fate of memorials to the Confederacy—statues, flags, and names on Army bases, streets, schools, and college dormitories. A century and a half of propaganda has successfully obscured the nature of the Confederate cause and its bloody history, wrapping it in myth. But the Confederacy is not part of “our American heritage,” as President Donald Trump recently claimed, nor should it stand as a libertarian symbol of small government and resistance to federal tyranny. For the four years of its existence, until it was forced to surrender, the Confederate States of America was a pro-slavery nation at war against the United States. The C.S.A. was a big, centralized state, devoted to securing a society in which enslavement to white people was the permanent and inherited condition of all people of African descent.

...thing is, oppressive compared to what? The 21st Century? Or other world states of that time - the 19th century?

Was the South any less democratic than many European countries which practised serfdom & had widespread poverty? Was the North a democratic society which granted rights to all its citizens? Were women granted the right to vote in the North? Or own property with ease there? Were they free from discrimination in the workforce?

The key error of this author is she judges the Confederacy with the context of the present not the past. While certainly not a Paradise, the South was probably no worse than many nations in the 19th century. Life was just as dismal for the average European and certainly worse in nations like Japan or China during that period. As imperfect as the South may have been, at least many of its White citizens could vote in a multiparty system. Contrast this with Europe, where there was no democracy at all in most of those nations. Plus the European Empires which condemned the South for its slavery practices had their own - colonialism. So England and France were so hard on the Confederacy without realizing or admitting that they were doing the same thing. Just not within their own borders but in their colonies.

Even in England, which was the most advanced European nation at that time, living conditions for most of its citizens were horrid if the 19th century writings of Charles Dickens are any indication.

Speaking of Charles Dickens.....

“The Northern onslaught upon slavery was no more than a piece of specious humbug designed to conceal its desire for economic control of the Southern states.”
Charles Dickens, 1862

Adn the Brits forgot to mention that they were practising Slavery in their own colonies too.

Only they called it Colonialism under the guise of such phrases as 'the White Man's Burden' & 'The Sun It never sets on the British Empire'.

If British subjects were White in places like Canada, they were treated alright. But if they were brown like In India, or Black like Africa, they were treated like dirt.

The British were hypocrites y'know. They slammed/condemned the South while overlooking what was goin on in their backyard. The French were even more cruel to their colonial subjects than the British.

Reality is while slavery officially ended in the South by 1865, it thrived in the British Empire until at least 1945 which was the end of World War II & their Empire ended.

For all the ciriticism levelled at the USA and even th South, they were actially furuther ahead of the British in granting its minorities civil rights, however flawed.

The Antebellum South was certainly flawed. But they did at least allow a limited amount of democracy. That is it's White Citizens could vote. Not great that slaves were left out. But it was along the lines of a Roman or Greek democracy where only citizens or upper classes could vote and slaves couldn't nor own land.

 

[Blazor]

 

[Blazor]

Belle Boyd
Only 17 years old when the Civil War began, by early 1862 Belle Boyd of Martinsburg (now West Virginia) and her activities were well known to the Union Army and the press, who dubbed her La Belle Rebelle. While visiting relatives whose home in Front Royal, Virginia was being used as a Union headquarters, Boyd learned that Union General Nathaniel Banks' forces had been ordered to march.
She rode fifteen miles to inform Confederate General Stonewall Jackson who was nearby in the Shenandoah Valley. She returned home under cover of darkness. Several weeks later, on May 23, 1862, when she realized Jackson was about to attack Front Royal, she ran onto the battlefield to provide the General with last minute information about the Union troop dispositions. Jackson captured the town and acknowledged her contribution and her bravery in a personal note.
Boyd was arrested several times, but managed to avoid incarceration until July 29, 1862, when she was imprisoned in Old Capitol Prison in Washington, DC, but was released after a month. She was arrested again in July 1863, after which she devised a unique method of communicating with her supporters outside. They shot rubber balls into her cell with a bow and arrow; she then enclosed messages inside the balls and threw them back.
In December 1863 Boyd was released and banished to the South. She sailed for England on May 8, 1864, but was arrested again as a Confederate courier. She finally escaped to Canada with the help of a Union naval officer, Lieutenant Sam Hardinge, and eventually made her way to England where she and Hardinge were married. Boyd later wrote of her wartime activities, "I allowed but one thought to keep possession of my mind - the thought that I was doing all a woman could do for her country's cause."

 

[Blazor]

Check it at 11:50 for 2 minutes lol. Lil Shirley Temple.....

 

[Blazor]

A View of the Yankee People by a Confederate officer captured at Gettysburg, writing to some friends on another subject when his mind turned to the Yankees.

“They believed their manners and customs more enlightened, their intelligence and culture immeasurably superior. Brim-full of hypocritical and puritan ideas, they preach, pray and whine. The most parsimonious of wretches, they extol charity; the most inveterate blasphemers, they are the readiest exporters; the worst of dastards, they are the most shameless boasters; the most selfish of man, they are the most blatant philanthropists; the blackest-hearted hypocrites, they are religious fanatics. They are agitators and schemers, braggarts and deceivers, swindlers and extortioners, and yet pretend to be of Godliness, truth, purity and humanity. The shibboleth of their faith is, “The union must and shall be preserved”, and they hold on to this with all the obstinacy peculiar to their nature. They say that we are a benighted people, and are trying to pull down that which God himself built up. “Many of these bigots express great astonishment at finding the majority of our men could read and write; they have actually been educated to regard the Southern people as grossly illiterate, and little better than savages. The whole nation lives, breathes and prospers in delusions; and their chiefs control the spring of the social and political machine with masterly hands. “I could but conclude that the Northern people were bent upon the destruction of the South. All appeared to deprecate the war, but were unwilling to listen to a separation of the old union. They justified the acts of usurpation on the part of their government, and seem submissive to the tyranny of its acts on the plea of military necessity; they say that the union is better than the Constitution, and bow their necks to the yoke in the hope of success against us. A great many, I believe, act from honest and conscientious principles; many from fear and favor; but the large majority entertained a deep-seated hatred, envy and jealousy towards the Southern people. They know, yet they pretend not to believe it, that Southern men and women are their superiors in everything relating to bravery, honesty, virtue and refinement, and they have become more convinced of this since the present war; consequently, their worst passions have become aroused, and they give way to frenzy and fanaticism. We must not deceive ourselves; they are bent upon our destruction, and differ mainly in the means of accomplishing this end. However, much as sections and parties that hate each other, yet, as a whole, they hate us more. They are so entirely incongruous to our people that they and their descendants will ever be our natural enemies.”

 

[Blazor]

 

[Blazor]

"You have chosen to inaugurate civil war, and having done so, we will meet it in a spirit as determined as the Administration has exhibited toward the South."

On this day, April 16, 1861...

"I received your telegram of the 15th, the genuineness of which I doubted. Since that time I have received your communication, mailed the same day, in which I am requested to detach from the militia of the State of Virginia 'the quota designated in the table' which you append, 'to serve as infantry or riflemen for the period of three months, unless sooner discharged.'

In reply to this communication I have only to say that the militia of Virginia will not be furnished to the powers at Washington for any such use or purpose as they have in view. Your object is to subjugate the Southern States, and a requisition made upon me for such an object--an object, in my judgement, not within the purview of the Constitution or the act of 1795--will not be complied with. You have chosen to inaugurate civil war, and having done so, we will meet it in a spirit as determined as the Administration has exhibited toward the South."
John Letcher, Governor of Virginia, to Cameron, 16 April 1861

 

[Joe]

...yer making LotusBud upset with all these posts gloifying the Confederacy, Blazor.

 

[Blazor]

Today is Virginia's Secession Day!!!!!

And here's to old Virginia--
The Old Dominion State--
Who with the young Confederacy
At length has linked her fate;
Impelled by her example,
Now other states prepare
To hoist on high the Bonnie Blue Flag
That bears a single star.

Hurrah! Hurrah!
For Southern rights hurrah!
Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue Flag
That bears a single star.


An Ordinance

To repeal the ratification of the Constitution of the United States of America, by the State of Virginia, and to resume all the rights and powers granted under said Constitution.

The people of Virginia, in their ratification of the Constitution of the United States of America, adopted by them in Convention, on the twenty-fifth day of June in the year of our Lord, one thousand seven hundred and eighty-eight, having declared that the powers granted under the said Constitution, were derived from the people of the United States, and might be resumed whensoever the same should be perverted to their injury and oppression; and the Federal Government having perverted said powers, not only to the injury of the people of Virginia, but to the oppression of the Southern slaveholding States.

Now, therefore, we the people of Virginia, do declare and ordain,That the ordinance adopted by the people of this State in Convention, on the twenty-fifth day of June, in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty eight, whereby the Constitution of the United States of America was ratified; and all acts of the General Assembly of this State ratifying or adopting amendments to said Constitution, are hereby repealed and abrogated; that the Union between the State of Virginia and the other States under the Constitution aforesaid is hereby dissolved, and that the State of Virginia is in the full possession and exercise of all the rights of sovereignty, which belong and appertain to a free and independent State. And they do further declare,That said Constitution of the United States of America is no longer binding on any of the Citizens of this State.

This ordinance shall take effect and be an act of this day when ratified by a majority of the votes of the people of this State, cast at a poll to be taken thereon, on the fourth Thursday in May next, in pursuance of a Schedule hereafter to be enacted

Done in Convention in the City of Richmond, on the seventeenth day of April, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-one, and in the eighty-fifth year of the Commonwealth of Virginia.

 

[Blazor]

...yer making LotusBud upset with all these posts gloifying the Confederacy, Blazor.

Its just her way of saying "fuck me harder". She wants to really rile me up before her visit to the states.

 

[Blazor]

 

[Blazor]

True Men! When Virginia was still the birth place of Liberty!​

 

[Blazor]

JOHN S. ROCK – BLACK DOCTOR AND LAWYER

Rock was born in New Jersey, on October 13, 1825. The following are two quotes from a speech given to the Massachusetts Anti-Slavery Society on January 23, 1862.

“I do not deny that there is a deep and cruel prejudice lurking in the bosoms of the white people of this country. It is much more abundant in the North than in the South.”

“Let me tell you, my friends, the slaveholders are not the men we dread! They do not desire to have us removed. The northern pro-slavery men have done the free people of color tenfold more injury than the Southern slaveholders.”

 

[Blazor]

Oh this is a good story.......


“HOLD YOUR HEAD UP AND DIE HARD”
via Connie Latta

Known during the Civil War as Private Bill Thompson, Lucy Matilda Thompson Gauss cut her thick hair and disguised herself by wearing her husband's suit and boarded a train for Virginia to fight alongside him during the early years of the Civil War. He never survived the war; but, "Private Bill" did and brought his body home for burial.

Lucy Matilda Thompson was born November 21, 1812 in Bladenboro, North Carolina. She was tall and masculine -- though not without feminine charm -- and she was a deft horsewoman, expert with a rifle and relished hunting.
In 1861, just as the war erupted, Thompson married Bryant Gauss who soon joined the Army of the Confederacy. Fearing he would be killed and lie unidentified, the new Mrs. Gauss oiled her squirrel musket and enlisted in Company D, 18th North Carolina Infantry, Confederate States of America. Neighbors and friends sympathized with her bravery and kept her identity secret. So did Captain Robert Tate and Lieutenant Wiley Sykes, who admired her ability with a rifle, her talent for jokes as well as her husky throated singing voice. They also prized her skill to nurse the camp's sick and wounded.

Masquerading as Private Bill Thompson, Lucy participated in a number of battles, receiving a head wound either at the First Battle of Manassas or the Siege of Richmond. In any case the wound -- an iron shell scrap tore open her scalp from forehead to crown -- sent her to a hospital for two months. Somehow she managed to conceal her identity and fled back to her unit as soon as she could.

Bryant Gauss was killed at the Seven Days Battle near Richmond. Lucy Gauss obtained permanent furlough and took him for burial. She bore her first child, Mary Caroline Gauss, on January 21, 1864.

After the war, the widow and small child moved to Savannah, where in late 1866, Lucy Gauss married union army veteran, Joseph P. Kenney. Together they had six children. Remarkably, Mrs. Kenney gave birth to their first at the age of 55 in 1868, and the last in 1881 at the age of 69!

Lucy Matilda Gauss Kenney kept her military exploits a secret until 1914, when she told her story to her pastor. Fearing nothing at the age of 102 but God, Lucy's motto was "Hold your head up and die hard."

She lived in various parts of Georgia before she died in Nicholls, Georgia at the remarkable age of 112 years, 7 months and 2 days. Lucy Gauss Kenney is buried in the Meeks Cemetery near Nicholls. Joseph Kenney died September 7, 1913 at the age of 107 years 5 months and 1 day.

Photo: Private Bill Thompson, aka Lucy Matilda Thompson Gauss at the age of 107

 

[Blazor]

WHY NO CONFEDERATE LEADER WAS EVER BROUGHT TO TRIAL…

The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court in a privately delivered opinion said. “If you bring these leaders to trial it will condemn the north, for by the Constitution, secession is not rebellion.” Lincoln appointee Chief Justice Salmon P. Chase, July 1867 (Foote, The Civil War, Vol. 3, p. 765)

The government appointed three separate attorneys to take on the case against Jefferson Davis, but all three eventually declined when they decided the case was “doomed to failure.” The following quote is attributed to one of those attorneys. “Gentleman, the Supreme Court of the United States will have to acquit that man under the Constitution, when it will be proven to the world, that the north waged an unconstitutional warfare against the south.”

President Johnson was prepared to offer Davis a pardon in order to avoid embarrassment. Davis refused a pardon on the grounds that, to accept a pardon is to admit guilt. Davis wanted a trial to settle the issue of secession, once and for all, in a court of law.
President Johnson chose to give amnesty to the entire south, Davis included, thereby shelving the issue, unresolved to this day.

 

[Blazor]

“Just as we would not send any of our soldiers to march in other states, and tyrannize other people... so will we never allow the armies of others to march into our states and tyrannize our people.” General Thomas (Stonewall) Jackson

 

[Joe]

...yer making LotusBud upset with all these posts gloifying the Confederacy, Blazor.

Its just her way of saying "fuck me harder". She wants to really rile me up before her visit to the states.

...and yet I have a constructive criticism of your historical version of the South.

It seems a rather pollyanish view through rose coloured glasses of the aristocrats & not an accurate portrayal of thies region prioer to the US Civil War.

Seems there were two societies even for Whites:




The poor Whites known as 'Yeoman Farmers' did not own slaves and in many cases, land. They were sharecroppers who led a desititue existence.

So, perhaps you'd care to comment on this social disparity, Blazor?

 

[Blazor]

...yer making LotusBud upset with all these posts gloifying the Confederacy, Blazor.

Its just her way of saying "fuck me harder". She wants to really rile me up before her visit to the states.

...and yet I have a constructive criticism of your historical version of the South.

It seems a rather pollyanish view through rose coloured glasses of the aristocrats & not an accurate portrayal of thies region prioer to the US Civil War.

Seems there were two societies even for Whites:




The poor Whites known as 'Yeoman Farmers' did not own slaves and in many cases, land. They were sharedroppers who led a desititue existence.

So, perhaps you'd care to comment on this social disparity, Blazor?

Nah you're right, cause not many were even slave owners. There was a lot poor folk, right here in the Appalachia region. A lot of Scots Irish and such coming here with nothing. They had to do Indentured Servitude too just to get a start.

It even still exists, people think only blacks live in the ghettos, but whites do too. I lived with my disabled mom in Section 8 apartments most my childhood, while being around a bunch of other single moms with kids, just trying to live. You were thankful for clothes, or when the Salvation Army came around with a trash bag full of presents singing Christmas Carols, or that government cheese (I really do miss that block of cheese).

White privilege my ass!

 

[Joe]

...yer making LotusBud upset with all these posts gloifying the Confederacy, Blazor.

Its just her way of saying "fuck me harder". She wants to really rile me up before her visit to the states.

...and yet I have a constructive criticism of your historical version of the South.

It seems a rather pollyanish view through rose coloured glasses of the aristocrats & not an accurate portrayal of thies region prioer to the US Civil War.

Seems there were two societies even for Whites:




The poor Whites known as 'Yeoman Farmers' did not own slaves and in many cases, land. They were sharedroppers who led a desititue existence.

So, perhaps you'd care to comment on this social disparity, Blazor?

Nah you're right, cause not many were even slave owners. There was a lot poor folk, right here in the Appalachia region. A lot of Scots Irish and such coming here with nothing. They had to do Indentured Servitude too just to get a start.

It even still exists, people think only blacks live in the ghettos, but whites do too. I lived with my disabled mom in Section 8 apartments most my childhood, while being around a bunch of other single moms with kids, just trying to live. You were thankful for clothes, or when the Salvation Army came around with a trash bag full of presents singing Christmas Carols, or that government cheese (I really do miss that block of cheese).

White privilege my ass!

I'd like to read more stories like that from the poor White class - whom I think had their own culture/subculture. Music, stories, Old Wives tales, whatever. I think they'd be more interesting to read about than the privileged White plantation classes.

Because it gives a better picture of the South & even how and why it evolved as it did after the Civil War.

There's not many accunts what it was like for the White working class in the South (who likely were 95% of the white population) prior to the Civil war. I think one guy published a book called the Redneck Manifesto in which he paints a rather bleak picture of the antebellum South.




ie - he wrote that Georgia and perhaps other Southern states were set up as prison colonies for Poor Whites.

 

[Joe]

Here's an old clip of traditional White Southern Culture. in Appalachian North Carolina which may have exied around the time of the Civil War.:




...a precursor to the Charleston?

 

[Blazor]

Here's an old clip of traditional White Southern Culture. in Appalachian North Carolina which may have exied around the time of the Civil War.:




...a precursor to the Charleston?

I've seen videos of that family, you should check out some of the others. Takes you back to a simpler time.

Appalachian refers to the Appalachian Mountain region. It goes through several states over here. Its where us Mountain Folk come from lol.

 

[Joe]

There's also another double standard of those who want to wipe out Confederate history because its's probably who've made it a crime to deny the Holocaust.

so one hand, it's OK to erase the history or culture of one group because they don't like them, but then it's imposible to ignore or wipe out the history of another - the Jews. So it's forcing people to recognize only history, and not some else's.

Social Marxism - and that sorta thing is often practised in Communist countries. They wipe out the past to start over.

 

[Joe]

Here's an old clip of traditional White Southern Culture. in Appalachian North Carolina which may have exied around the time of the Civil War.:




...a precursor to the Charleston?

I've seen videos of that family, you should check out some of the others. Takes you back to a simpler time.

Appalachian refers to the Appalachian Mountain region. It goes through several states over here. Its where us Mountain Folk come from lol.

There's another aspect about that culture which nobody or few give credit to Appalachians or White Southerners.

And that was the foundation/birth of Country Music plus the styles associated with it such as folk music, blueglass, rockabilly, gospel music , Honky Tonk Piano & even Rock and Roll. Also a number of modern dances such as Swing & the Charleston have their roots in the South.
And it wasn't all because of Blak people.

I notice that Northeastern US culturalists insist that it was Blacks who were the sole founders of modern American music.
And they seem to snub White Southerners as either being secondary are not infuential at all.
They dismiss everything they did.
And yet what do they call Elvis Presley, Jerry Lee Lewis or Patsy Cline?
Musical historians and cirtics say stuff like, "Oh that Elivis, he just borrowed/stole that style from Blacks."
But did he? Could it also be that Elvis was also one of the originators of that style?
And some modern fashions probably came from the South as well courtesy of Whites there.
But this is never aknowledged either.

Ya see, even to this present day, they're not really fair to White Southerners and won't givem credit for accomplishments where it's due.

Ironically a lot of modern popular American culture might have originated from Whites from the antebellum South or from the same roots which the Confederacy was born. But it's this denial almost as if they're trying to snuff it out like the Confederte Flag.

 

[Blazor]

 

[Blazor]