Kyle Rittenhouse to go free!!!

[Lily]

You think Kyle being a white male means he "fits the profile" of an active shooter? That is pretty ignorant as whites are far less likely to be a mass shooter. As a rate per 100,000 the most likely mass shooters are 1) Native Americans (by a wide margin btw), 2) Blacks (usually gang related but liberals love to lie and claim some how this means those mass shootings somehow don't count, they do), 3) Hispanics, 4) Very distantly whites, 5) Asians. It is worth noting that Asian mass shooters are least common but tend to get the highest kill rates on average.

Asians over performing again?

I said teen male, I never said white, fucktard.

 

[Oerdin]

After reading accounts of the events that night and hearing some testimony, this case really proves that everyone having a gun leads to debacle scenarios.

I don't think anyone, even Kyle Rittenhouse, went there to actively kill anyone. I see where the people shot in this case thought he could be an active shooter, he certainly fits the profile and was walking around with a weapon in a chaotic situation. I believe it's possible that most of those chasing him wanted to actually disarm him and not kill him. I wouldn't trust the average teen male with a weapon. I can see why the EMT guy that survived the shooting might have, in one instant, pointed his gun at Rittenhouse. I'm guessing he also didn't want to die that night.

In his mind, I can see how he thought those chasing him were dangerous to him.

However, at the end of the day, no one shot at him, no matter what he believed. I don't think he should be found guilty.

I do think Americans should remember what peaceful demonstrations are, on all sides. No one needs to be armed to voice their concerns, anger or distrust about an issue.

The cops need to do their jobs regardless of whether they're being appreciated or not. The work for money, not for praise or appreciation. Their mottos often say "to serve and protect", they don't say "we're here to be appreciated".


Too many guns around situations that are full of emotion is a terrible idea.

I will begin by thanking you for being the most reasonable left leaning person on this topic. That is a good thing. Now a few points:

1) Rosenbaum and Ziminski definitely came there looking for trouble. Ziminski even told cops "I came to cause chaos and fuck shit up." Those are also the two people who ambushed and attacked Kyle so all blame falls on them. Oh, Ziminski also incited the mob to chase and attack Kyle after the first incident where Ziminski fired the first shoots.

2) Even ADA Binger showed video of someone, "the unknown shooter" as they called him at trial, fired three rounds at Kyle during the first incident. This is inaddition to Ziminski firing at least one round.

3) Grosskreutz is not an EMT. He is an Antifa militant who does "weapons training" for far left communist revutionary groups according to his own social media posts.

4) I agree peaceful demonstrations are good, I disagree that no felons should ever be disarmed. It is a right and must remain so especially since police are not there to protect you so you have to protect yourself and your family. I would like to see more training on proper handling and use though.

5) I also agree cops should do their jobs. Over and over the problem has been Democrat politicians ordering police and D.A.s not to do their jobs when the offenders are left wing but then demanding disproportionate applications of the law for everyone else.

 

[Lily]

After reading accounts of the events that night and hearing some testimony, this case really proves that everyone having a gun leads to debacle scenarios.

I don't think anyone, even Kyle Rittenhouse, went there to actively kill anyone. I see where the people shot in this case thought he could be an active shooter, he certainly fits the profile and was walking around with a weapon in a chaotic situation. I believe it's possible that most of those chasing him wanted to actually disarm him and not kill him. I wouldn't trust the average teen male with a weapon. I can see why the EMT guy that survived the shooting might have, in one instant, pointed his gun at Rittenhouse. I'm guessing he also didn't want to die that night.

In his mind, I can see how he thought those chasing him were dangerous to him.

However, at the end of the day, no one shot at him, no matter what he believed. I don't think he should be found guilty.

I do think Americans should remember what peaceful demonstrations are, on all sides. No one needs to be armed to voice their concerns, anger or distrust about an issue.

The cops need to do their jobs regardless of whether they're being appreciated or not. The work for money, not for praise or appreciation. Their mottos often say "to serve and protect", they don't say "we're here to be appreciated".


Too many guns around situations that are full of emotion is a terrible idea.

I will begin by thanking you for being the most reasonable left leaning person on this topic. That is a good thing. Now a few points:

1) Rosenbaum and Ziminski definitely came there looking for trouble. Ziminski even told cops "I came to cause chaos and fuck shit up." Those are also the two people who ambushed and attacked Kyle so all blame falls on them. Oh, Ziminski also incited the mob to chase and attack Kyle after the first incident where Ziminski fired the first shoots. (No proof that it was to find attack Rittenhouse)

2) Even ADA Binger showed video of someone, "the unknown shooter" as they called him at trial, fired three rounds at Kyle during the first incident. This is inaddition to Ziminski firing at least one round. (Even if shots were fired, with the proximity of all these individuals, if they meant to harm him, they could have shot him dead)

3) Grosskreutz is not an EMT. He is an Antifa militant who does "weapons training" for far left communist revutionary groups according to his own social media posts. (He could have shot him and didn't, end of)

4) I agree peaceful demonstrations are good, I disagree that no felons should ever be disarmed. It is a right and must remain so especially since police are not there to protect you so you have to protect yourself and your family. I would like to see more training on proper handling and use though. (I didn't say anything about disarming anyone)

5) I also agree cops should do their jobs. Over and over the problem has been Democrat politicians ordering police and D.A.s not to do their jobs when the offenders are left wing but then demanding disproportionate applications of the law for everyone else. (You're conflating discussion points and responding to things I didn't say)

Responded to each of your points in the post itself in parentheses.

I do think Rittenhouse's mom is a piece of shit though. I would never, not in 1000 years, take my son/daughter to a riot. They are my offspring and I would never sacrifice them for any god damn thing on God's green Earth. End of.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

 

[Biggie Smiles]

 

[Oerdin]

After reading accounts of the events that night and hearing some testimony, this case really proves that everyone having a gun leads to debacle scenarios.

I don't think anyone, even Kyle Rittenhouse, went there to actively kill anyone. I see where the people shot in this case thought he could be an active shooter, he certainly fits the profile and was walking around with a weapon in a chaotic situation. I believe it's possible that most of those chasing him wanted to actually disarm him and not kill him. I wouldn't trust the average teen male with a weapon. I can see why the EMT guy that survived the shooting might have, in one instant, pointed his gun at Rittenhouse. I'm guessing he also didn't want to die that night.

In his mind, I can see how he thought those chasing him were dangerous to him.

However, at the end of the day, no one shot at him, no matter what he believed. I don't think he should be found guilty.

I do think Americans should remember what peaceful demonstrations are, on all sides. No one needs to be armed to voice their concerns, anger or distrust about an issue.

The cops need to do their jobs regardless of whether they're being appreciated or not. The work for money, not for praise or appreciation. Their mottos often say "to serve and protect", they don't say "we're here to be appreciated".


Too many guns around situations that are full of emotion is a terrible idea.

I will begin by thanking you for being the most reasonable left leaning person on this topic. That is a good thing. Now a few points:

1) Rosenbaum and Ziminski definitely came there looking for trouble. Ziminski even told cops "I came to cause chaos and fuck shit up." Those are also the two people who ambushed and attacked Kyle so all blame falls on them. Oh, Ziminski also incited the mob to chase and attack Kyle after the first incident where Ziminski fired the first shoots. (No proof that it was to find attack Rittenhouse)

2) Even ADA Binger showed video of someone, "the unknown shooter" as they called him at trial, fired three rounds at Kyle during the first incident. This is inaddition to Ziminski firing at least one round. (Even if shots were fired, with the proximity of all these individuals, if they meant to harm him, they could have shot him dead)

3) Grosskreutz is not an EMT. He is an Antifa militant who does "weapons training" for far left communist revutionary groups according to his own social media posts. (He could have shot him and didn't, end of)

4) I agree peaceful demonstrations are good, I disagree that no felons should ever be disarmed. It is a right and must remain so especially since police are not there to protect you so you have to protect yourself and your family. I would like to see more training on proper handling and use though. (I didn't say anything about disarming anyone)

5) I also agree cops should do their jobs. Over and over the problem has been Democrat politicians ordering police and D.A.s not to do their jobs when the offenders are left wing but then demanding disproportionate applications of the law for everyone else. (You're conflating discussion points and responding to things I didn't say)

Responded to each of your points in the post itself in parentheses.

I do think Rittenhouse's mom is a piece of shit though. I would never, not in 1000 years, take my son/daughter to a riot. They are my offspring and I would never sacrifice them for any god damn thing on God's green Earth. End of.

She never took him to a riot. As testified in court she drove her son to his best friend's house 48 hours before the events that night. How do you not know this? That left wing lie was debunked over a year ago.

 

[Lily]

After reading accounts of the events that night and hearing some testimony, this case really proves that everyone having a gun leads to debacle scenarios.

I don't think anyone, even Kyle Rittenhouse, went there to actively kill anyone. I see where the people shot in this case thought he could be an active shooter, he certainly fits the profile and was walking around with a weapon in a chaotic situation. I believe it's possible that most of those chasing him wanted to actually disarm him and not kill him. I wouldn't trust the average teen male with a weapon. I can see why the EMT guy that survived the shooting might have, in one instant, pointed his gun at Rittenhouse. I'm guessing he also didn't want to die that night.

In his mind, I can see how he thought those chasing him were dangerous to him.

However, at the end of the day, no one shot at him, no matter what he believed. I don't think he should be found guilty.

I do think Americans should remember what peaceful demonstrations are, on all sides. No one needs to be armed to voice their concerns, anger or distrust about an issue.

The cops need to do their jobs regardless of whether they're being appreciated or not. The work for money, not for praise or appreciation. Their mottos often say "to serve and protect", they don't say "we're here to be appreciated".


Too many guns around situations that are full of emotion is a terrible idea.

I will begin by thanking you for being the most reasonable left leaning person on this topic. That is a good thing. Now a few points:

1) Rosenbaum and Ziminski definitely came there looking for trouble. Ziminski even told cops "I came to cause chaos and fuck shit up." Those are also the two people who ambushed and attacked Kyle so all blame falls on them. Oh, Ziminski also incited the mob to chase and attack Kyle after the first incident where Ziminski fired the first shoots. (No proof that it was to find attack Rittenhouse)

2) Even ADA Binger showed video of someone, "the unknown shooter" as they called him at trial, fired three rounds at Kyle during the first incident. This is inaddition to Ziminski firing at least one round. (Even if shots were fired, with the proximity of all these individuals, if they meant to harm him, they could have shot him dead)

3) Grosskreutz is not an EMT. He is an Antifa militant who does "weapons training" for far left communist revutionary groups according to his own social media posts. (He could have shot him and didn't, end of)

4) I agree peaceful demonstrations are good, I disagree that no felons should ever be disarmed. It is a right and must remain so especially since police are not there to protect you so you have to protect yourself and your family. I would like to see more training on proper handling and use though. (I didn't say anything about disarming anyone)

5) I also agree cops should do their jobs. Over and over the problem has been Democrat politicians ordering police and D.A.s not to do their jobs when the offenders are left wing but then demanding disproportionate applications of the law for everyone else. (You're conflating discussion points and responding to things I didn't say)

Responded to each of your points in the post itself in parentheses.

I do think Rittenhouse's mom is a piece of shit though. I would never, not in 1000 years, take my son/daughter to a riot. They are my offspring and I would never sacrifice them for any god damn thing on God's green Earth. End of.

She never took him to a riot. As testified in court she drove her son to his best friend's house 48 hours before the events that night. How do you not know this? That left wing lie was debunked over a year ago.

I don't keep track of this trial obsessively, that's why. And I don't know that she's telling the truth. Who let's their teen leave for the weekend? Did he take his weapon to spend time with his friend?

Seems odd to me.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

Notice how the cretin libs will comment and crucify innocent people on matters they don't know jack dick about

and then admit they don't know jack shit

 

[Dove]

Notice how the cretin libs will comment and crucify innocent people on matters they don't know jack dick about

and then admit they don't know jack shit

Exactly. They want the country destroyed and turned into a left wing dictatorship.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

heres something to ponder

In the absence of law & order maintained by law enforcement is vigilantism really vigilantism or is it good citizens heeding a call to fill the void

This kid is 1000x times the patriot of any of the liberal vermin scum around here

 

[Oerdin]

After reading accounts of the events that night and hearing some testimony, this case really proves that everyone having a gun leads to debacle scenarios.

I don't think anyone, even Kyle Rittenhouse, went there to actively kill anyone. I see where the people shot in this case thought he could be an active shooter, he certainly fits the profile and was walking around with a weapon in a chaotic situation. I believe it's possible that most of those chasing him wanted to actually disarm him and not kill him. I wouldn't trust the average teen male with a weapon. I can see why the EMT guy that survived the shooting might have, in one instant, pointed his gun at Rittenhouse. I'm guessing he also didn't want to die that night.

In his mind, I can see how he thought those chasing him were dangerous to him.

However, at the end of the day, no one shot at him, no matter what he believed. I don't think he should be found guilty.

I do think Americans should remember what peaceful demonstrations are, on all sides. No one needs to be armed to voice their concerns, anger or distrust about an issue.

The cops need to do their jobs regardless of whether they're being appreciated or not. The work for money, not for praise or appreciation. Their mottos often say "to serve and protect", they don't say "we're here to be appreciated".


Too many guns around situations that are full of emotion is a terrible idea.

I will begin by thanking you for being the most reasonable left leaning person on this topic. That is a good thing. Now a few points:

1) Rosenbaum and Ziminski definitely came there looking for trouble. Ziminski even told cops "I came to cause chaos and fuck shit up." Those are also the two people who ambushed and attacked Kyle so all blame falls on them. Oh, Ziminski also incited the mob to chase and attack Kyle after the first incident where Ziminski fired the first shoots. (No proof that it was to find attack Rittenhouse)

2) Even ADA Binger showed video of someone, "the unknown shooter" as they called him at trial, fired three rounds at Kyle during the first incident. This is inaddition to Ziminski firing at least one round. (Even if shots were fired, with the proximity of all these individuals, if they meant to harm him, they could have shot him dead)

3) Grosskreutz is not an EMT. He is an Antifa militant who does "weapons training" for far left communist revutionary groups according to his own social media posts. (He could have shot him and didn't, end of)

4) I agree peaceful demonstrations are good, I disagree that no felons should ever be disarmed. It is a right and must remain so especially since police are not there to protect you so you have to protect yourself and your family. I would like to see more training on proper handling and use though. (I didn't say anything about disarming anyone)

5) I also agree cops should do their jobs. Over and over the problem has been Democrat politicians ordering police and D.A.s not to do their jobs when the offenders are left wing but then demanding disproportionate applications of the law for everyone else. (You're conflating discussion points and responding to things I didn't say)

Responded to each of your points in the post itself in parentheses.

I do think Rittenhouse's mom is a piece of shit though. I would never, not in 1000 years, take my son/daughter to a riot. They are my offspring and I would never sacrifice them for any god damn thing on God's green Earth. End of.

She never took him to a riot. As testified in court she drove her son to his best friend's house 48 hours before the events that night. How do you not know this? That left wing lie was debunked over a year ago.

I don't keep track of this trial obsessively, that's why. And I don't know that she's telling the truth. Who let's their teen leave for the weekend? Did he take his weapon to spend time with his friend?

Seems odd to me.

Lots of people would let a 17 year old leave for the weekend especially as he has to work in Kenosha, he can sleep at his father's house in Kenosha, his grandparents house is in Kenosha, his aunt & uncle & cousins all live in Kenosha... All within a five mile radius. So he can hang out with his friend, stay with his father at his father's house, go to work in the morning, etc...

 

[Reggie_Essent]

After reading accounts of the events that night and hearing some testimony, this case really proves that everyone having a gun leads to debacle scenarios.

I don't think anyone, even Kyle Rittenhouse, went there to actively kill anyone. I see where the people shot in this case thought he could be an active shooter, he certainly fits the profile and was walking around with a weapon in a chaotic situation. I believe it's possible that most of those chasing him wanted to actually disarm him and not kill him. I wouldn't trust the average teen male with a weapon. I can see why the EMT guy that survived the shooting might have, in one instant, pointed his gun at Rittenhouse. I'm guessing he also didn't want to die that night.

In his mind, I can see how he thought those chasing him were dangerous to him.

However, at the end of the day, no one shot at him, no matter what he believed. I don't think he should be found guilty.

I do think Americans should remember what peaceful demonstrations are, on all sides. No one needs to be armed to voice their concerns, anger or distrust about an issue.

The cops need to do their jobs regardless of whether they're being appreciated or not. The work for money, not for praise or appreciation. Their mottos often say "to serve and protect", they don't say "we're here to be appreciated".


Too many guns around situations that are full of emotion is a terrible idea.

I will begin by thanking you for being the most reasonable left leaning person on this topic. That is a good thing. Now a few points:

1) Rosenbaum and Ziminski definitely came there looking for trouble. Ziminski even told cops "I came to cause chaos and fuck shit up." Those are also the two people who ambushed and attacked Kyle so all blame falls on them. Oh, Ziminski also incited the mob to chase and attack Kyle after the first incident where Ziminski fired the first shoots. (No proof that it was to find attack Rittenhouse)

2) Even ADA Binger showed video of someone, "the unknown shooter" as they called him at trial, fired three rounds at Kyle during the first incident. This is inaddition to Ziminski firing at least one round. (Even if shots were fired, with the proximity of all these individuals, if they meant to harm him, they could have shot him dead)

3) Grosskreutz is not an EMT. He is an Antifa militant who does "weapons training" for far left communist revutionary groups according to his own social media posts. (He could have shot him and didn't, end of)

4) I agree peaceful demonstrations are good, I disagree that no felons should ever be disarmed. It is a right and must remain so especially since police are not there to protect you so you have to protect yourself and your family. I would like to see more training on proper handling and use though. (I didn't say anything about disarming anyone)

5) I also agree cops should do their jobs. Over and over the problem has been Democrat politicians ordering police and D.A.s not to do their jobs when the offenders are left wing but then demanding disproportionate applications of the law for everyone else. (You're conflating discussion points and responding to things I didn't say)

Responded to each of your points in the post itself in parentheses.

I do think Rittenhouse's mom is a piece of shit though. I would never, not in 1000 years, take my son/daughter to a riot. They are my offspring and I would never sacrifice them for any god damn thing on God's green Earth. End of.

She never took him to a riot. As testified in court she drove her son to his best friend's house 48 hours before the events that night. How do you not know this? That left wing lie was debunked over a year ago.

I don't keep track of this trial obsessively, that's why. And I don't know that she's telling the truth. Who let's their teen leave for the weekend? Did he take his weapon to spend time with his friend?

Seems odd to me.

Lots of people would let a 17 year old leave for the weekend especially as he has to work in Kenosha, he can sleep at his father's house in Kenosha, his grandparents house is in Kenosha, his aunt & uncle & cousins all live in Kenosha... All within a five mile radius. So he can hang out with his friend, stay with his father at his father's house, go to work in the morning, etc...

Forgive Lily's ignorance. She is a registered Democrat. She doesn't know that Antioch, where Kyle lives in Illinois, is literally a 20 minute drive from Kenosha, in Wisconsin, where Kyle's Dad and many relatives live. She doesn't know this because she only knows what she sees in the media and the echo-chamber within which she lives.

 

[LotusBud]

I saw a hate-filled Democrat on television threaten violence when the young hero Kyle goes free. Then we can start another thread where we'll watch Lotus defend all the hate-filled Democrats burning things down and looting stores.

Please link to a single post I made where I defended burning and looting. ONE SINGLE POST.

You have always defended the excesses of the disgusting freedom-hating Left. Every time. You just can't help it. In this case, you think it is perfectly "Just" for the young hero Kyle to go to prison for defending himself against a hate-filled Democrat pedophile who just got out of prison for buttfucking 5 little boys. You only defended the pedophile because he is a Cause célèbre for the Progressive Left, and when the Leftist filth go out to have riots when Kyle goes free, you will defend them.

That's what you do.

You cannot link to a single post where I praised any kind of violence, because I never have and I never will, unlike you hate-motivated cons who applaud violence, including murder, whenever it's a supposed liberal (your definition is just wrong) that's getting murdered.

You also cannot link to me ever once defending "the pedophile." The ONLY thing I have ever said about him is that his crimes do not entitle a teenager to murder him in the street. I have said again and again, that is vigilantism, and it's illegal.

In this very thread you defended the dead Registered Democrat pedophile. Your exact words were to the effect that the dead little boy buttfucker didn't "deserve to be killed in a Trump riot."

You are correct in one respect, the disgusting Registered Democrat pedophile SHOULD have been executed for sodomizing those young boys, instead, other disgusting Registered Democrats let him out of prison early.

Those little boy buttfuckers are your kind of people, huh?

Link to my post, gaslighter.

Give it up, girl. It's in this thread, you know it's in this thread, I know it's in this thread and anyone interested can go through all the 77 or so pages and find where you lament that the poor little dead Registered Democrat boy sodomizer "didn't deserve" to be shot and killed during a mostly peaceful but fiery protest orchestrated by vile and filthy Registered Democrat scum.

You're a liar.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

I saw a hate-filled Democrat on television threaten violence when the young hero Kyle goes free. Then we can start another thread where we'll watch Lotus defend all the hate-filled Democrats burning things down and looting stores.

Please link to a single post I made where I defended burning and looting. ONE SINGLE POST.

You have always defended the excesses of the disgusting freedom-hating Left. Every time. You just can't help it. In this case, you think it is perfectly "Just" for the young hero Kyle to go to prison for defending himself against a hate-filled Democrat pedophile who just got out of prison for buttfucking 5 little boys. You only defended the pedophile because he is a Cause célèbre for the Progressive Left, and when the Leftist filth go out to have riots when Kyle goes free, you will defend them.

That's what you do.

You cannot link to a single post where I praised any kind of violence, because I never have and I never will, unlike you hate-motivated cons who applaud violence, including murder, whenever it's a supposed liberal (your definition is just wrong) that's getting murdered.

You also cannot link to me ever once defending "the pedophile." The ONLY thing I have ever said about him is that his crimes do not entitle a teenager to murder him in the street. I have said again and again, that is vigilantism, and it's illegal.

In this very thread you defended the dead Registered Democrat pedophile. Your exact words were to the effect that the dead little boy buttfucker didn't "deserve to be killed in a Trump riot."

You are correct in one respect, the disgusting Registered Democrat pedophile SHOULD have been executed for sodomizing those young boys, instead, other disgusting Registered Democrats let him out of prison early.

Those little boy buttfuckers are your kind of people, huh?

Link to my post, gaslighter.

Give it up, girl. It's in this thread, you know it's in this thread, I know it's in this thread and anyone interested can go through all the 77 or so pages and find where you lament that the poor little dead Registered Democrat boy sodomizer "didn't deserve" to be shot and killed during a mostly peaceful but fiery protest orchestrated by vile and filthy Registered Democrat scum.

You're a liar.

Anyone with a modicum of honesty will assert that you have indeed defended these vermin cause they are the vermin that make of the hordes of degenerate filth you people rely on to further your twisted interests.

piss off and drop dead already you vile old bat

 

[LotusBud]

Attention dumbasses! Kyle's victims may have been creeps, but that doesn't give Kyle the right to murder them. He doesn't get to choose who lives and who dies, and neither do you Kyle apologists.

Is that the post you're talking about, Reggie Asshead?

 

[Lily]

After reading accounts of the events that night and hearing some testimony, this case really proves that everyone having a gun leads to debacle scenarios.

I don't think anyone, even Kyle Rittenhouse, went there to actively kill anyone. I see where the people shot in this case thought he could be an active shooter, he certainly fits the profile and was walking around with a weapon in a chaotic situation. I believe it's possible that most of those chasing him wanted to actually disarm him and not kill him. I wouldn't trust the average teen male with a weapon. I can see why the EMT guy that survived the shooting might have, in one instant, pointed his gun at Rittenhouse. I'm guessing he also didn't want to die that night.

In his mind, I can see how he thought those chasing him were dangerous to him.

However, at the end of the day, no one shot at him, no matter what he believed. I don't think he should be found guilty.

I do think Americans should remember what peaceful demonstrations are, on all sides. No one needs to be armed to voice their concerns, anger or distrust about an issue.

The cops need to do their jobs regardless of whether they're being appreciated or not. The work for money, not for praise or appreciation. Their mottos often say "to serve and protect", they don't say "we're here to be appreciated".


Too many guns around situations that are full of emotion is a terrible idea.

I will begin by thanking you for being the most reasonable left leaning person on this topic. That is a good thing. Now a few points:

1) Rosenbaum and Ziminski definitely came there looking for trouble. Ziminski even told cops "I came to cause chaos and fuck shit up." Those are also the two people who ambushed and attacked Kyle so all blame falls on them. Oh, Ziminski also incited the mob to chase and attack Kyle after the first incident where Ziminski fired the first shoots. (No proof that it was to find attack Rittenhouse)

2) Even ADA Binger showed video of someone, "the unknown shooter" as they called him at trial, fired three rounds at Kyle during the first incident. This is inaddition to Ziminski firing at least one round. (Even if shots were fired, with the proximity of all these individuals, if they meant to harm him, they could have shot him dead)

3) Grosskreutz is not an EMT. He is an Antifa militant who does "weapons training" for far left communist revutionary groups according to his own social media posts. (He could have shot him and didn't, end of)

4) I agree peaceful demonstrations are good, I disagree that no felons should ever be disarmed. It is a right and must remain so especially since police are not there to protect you so you have to protect yourself and your family. I would like to see more training on proper handling and use though. (I didn't say anything about disarming anyone)

5) I also agree cops should do their jobs. Over and over the problem has been Democrat politicians ordering police and D.A.s not to do their jobs when the offenders are left wing but then demanding disproportionate applications of the law for everyone else. (You're conflating discussion points and responding to things I didn't say)

Responded to each of your points in the post itself in parentheses.

I do think Rittenhouse's mom is a piece of shit though. I would never, not in 1000 years, take my son/daughter to a riot. They are my offspring and I would never sacrifice them for any god damn thing on God's green Earth. End of.

She never took him to a riot. As testified in court she drove her son to his best friend's house 48 hours before the events that night. How do you not know this? That left wing lie was debunked over a year ago.

I don't keep track of this trial obsessively, that's why. And I don't know that she's telling the truth. Who let's their teen leave for the weekend? Did he take his weapon to spend time with his friend?

Seems odd to me.

Lots of people would let a 17 year old leave for the weekend especially as he has to work in Kenosha, he can sleep at his father's house in Kenosha, his grandparents house is in Kenosha, his aunt & uncle & cousins all live in Kenosha... All within a five mile radius. So he can hang out with his friend, stay with his father at his father's house, go to work in the morning, etc...

Forgive Lily's ignorance. She is a registered Democrat. She doesn't know that Antioch, where Kyle lives in Illinois, is literally a 20 minute drive from Kenosha, in Wisconsin, where Kyle's Dad and many relatives live. She doesn't know this because she only knows what she sees in the media and the echo-chamber within which she lives.

What does being a Democrat have to do with knowing the distances between two different states?

Nothing.

Also, if I let my kid go spend the weekend somewhere it's going to be with family not some friend.

 

[Dove]

heres something to ponder

In the absence of law & order maintained by law enforcement is vigilantism really vigilantism or is it good citizens heeding a call to fill the void

This kid is 1000x times the patriot of any of the liberal vermin scum around here

When the left gets mad, it's okay for mobs to attack and destroy innocent communities. No one is allowed to defend themselves.

You dont remember how they said Secoriea Turners mother shouldnt have drove down that street? They legit BLAME people for just being present. As if the rioters have a right to be violent and it's on other people to make sure they dont get "targeted".

At this point if the riots continue I hope to see more people killing these murderous, entitled, authoritarian fucktards who think they have a right to destroy lives and kill unfettered.

 

[LotusBud]

After reading accounts of the events that night and hearing some testimony, this case really proves that everyone having a gun leads to debacle scenarios.

I don't think anyone, even Kyle Rittenhouse, went there to actively kill anyone. I see where the people shot in this case thought he could be an active shooter, he certainly fits the profile and was walking around with a weapon in a chaotic situation. I believe it's possible that most of those chasing him wanted to actually disarm him and not kill him. I wouldn't trust the average teen male with a weapon. I can see why the EMT guy that survived the shooting might have, in one instant, pointed his gun at Rittenhouse. I'm guessing he also didn't want to die that night.

In his mind, I can see how he thought those chasing him were dangerous to him.

However, at the end of the day, no one shot at him, no matter what he believed. I don't think he should be found guilty.

I do think Americans should remember what peaceful demonstrations are, on all sides. No one needs to be armed to voice their concerns, anger or distrust about an issue.

The cops need to do their jobs regardless of whether they're being appreciated or not. The work for money, not for praise or appreciation. Their mottos often say "to serve and protect", they don't say "we're here to be appreciated".


Too many guns around situations that are full of emotion is a terrible idea.

I will begin by thanking you for being the most reasonable left leaning person on this topic. That is a good thing. Now a few points:

1) Rosenbaum and Ziminski definitely came there looking for trouble. Ziminski even told cops "I came to cause chaos and fuck shit up." Those are also the two people who ambushed and attacked Kyle so all blame falls on them. Oh, Ziminski also incited the mob to chase and attack Kyle after the first incident where Ziminski fired the first shoots. (No proof that it was to find attack Rittenhouse)

2) Even ADA Binger showed video of someone, "the unknown shooter" as they called him at trial, fired three rounds at Kyle during the first incident. This is inaddition to Ziminski firing at least one round. (Even if shots were fired, with the proximity of all these individuals, if they meant to harm him, they could have shot him dead)

3) Grosskreutz is not an EMT. He is an Antifa militant who does "weapons training" for far left communist revutionary groups according to his own social media posts. (He could have shot him and didn't, end of)

4) I agree peaceful demonstrations are good, I disagree that no felons should ever be disarmed. It is a right and must remain so especially since police are not there to protect you so you have to protect yourself and your family. I would like to see more training on proper handling and use though. (I didn't say anything about disarming anyone)

5) I also agree cops should do their jobs. Over and over the problem has been Democrat politicians ordering police and D.A.s not to do their jobs when the offenders are left wing but then demanding disproportionate applications of the law for everyone else. (You're conflating discussion points and responding to things I didn't say)

Responded to each of your points in the post itself in parentheses.

I do think Rittenhouse's mom is a piece of shit though. I would never, not in 1000 years, take my son/daughter to a riot. They are my offspring and I would never sacrifice them for any god damn thing on God's green Earth. End of.

She never took him to a riot. As testified in court she drove her son to his best friend's house 48 hours before the events that night. How do you not know this? That left wing lie was debunked over a year ago.

I don't keep track of this trial obsessively, that's why. And I don't know that she's telling the truth. Who let's their teen leave for the weekend? Did he take his weapon to spend time with his friend?

Seems odd to me.

Lots of people would let a 17 year old leave for the weekend especially as he has to work in Kenosha, he can sleep at his father's house in Kenosha, his grandparents house is in Kenosha, his aunt & uncle & cousins all live in Kenosha... All within a five mile radius. So he can hang out with his friend, stay with his father at his father's house, go to work in the morning, etc...

Forgive Lily's ignorance. She is a registered Democrat. She doesn't know that Antioch, where Kyle lives in Illinois, is literally a 20 minute drive from Kenosha, in Wisconsin, where Kyle's Dad and many relatives live. She doesn't know this because she only knows what she sees in the media and the echo-chamber within which she lives.

What does being a Democrat have to do with knowing the distances between two different states?

Nothing.

Also, if I let my kid go spend the weekend somewhere it's going to be with family not some friend.

My kids probably spent a weekend or two with friends, but they were friends I knew well, and I knew for sure that none of them had guns or would be shooting anyone at all for entertainment. Pretty close tabs were kept on all of them at all times. That sort of thing never, ever would have happened with my kids. Not in a million fucking years.

 

[Dove]

After reading accounts of the events that night and hearing some testimony, this case really proves that everyone having a gun leads to debacle scenarios.

I don't think anyone, even Kyle Rittenhouse, went there to actively kill anyone. I see where the people shot in this case thought he could be an active shooter, he certainly fits the profile and was walking around with a weapon in a chaotic situation. I believe it's possible that most of those chasing him wanted to actually disarm him and not kill him. I wouldn't trust the average teen male with a weapon. I can see why the EMT guy that survived the shooting might have, in one instant, pointed his gun at Rittenhouse. I'm guessing he also didn't want to die that night.

In his mind, I can see how he thought those chasing him were dangerous to him.

However, at the end of the day, no one shot at him, no matter what he believed. I don't think he should be found guilty.

I do think Americans should remember what peaceful demonstrations are, on all sides. No one needs to be armed to voice their concerns, anger or distrust about an issue.

The cops need to do their jobs regardless of whether they're being appreciated or not. The work for money, not for praise or appreciation. Their mottos often say "to serve and protect", they don't say "we're here to be appreciated".


Too many guns around situations that are full of emotion is a terrible idea.

I will begin by thanking you for being the most reasonable left leaning person on this topic. That is a good thing. Now a few points:

1) Rosenbaum and Ziminski definitely came there looking for trouble. Ziminski even told cops "I came to cause chaos and fuck shit up." Those are also the two people who ambushed and attacked Kyle so all blame falls on them. Oh, Ziminski also incited the mob to chase and attack Kyle after the first incident where Ziminski fired the first shoots. (No proof that it was to find attack Rittenhouse)

2) Even ADA Binger showed video of someone, "the unknown shooter" as they called him at trial, fired three rounds at Kyle during the first incident. This is inaddition to Ziminski firing at least one round. (Even if shots were fired, with the proximity of all these individuals, if they meant to harm him, they could have shot him dead)

3) Grosskreutz is not an EMT. He is an Antifa militant who does "weapons training" for far left communist revutionary groups according to his own social media posts. (He could have shot him and didn't, end of)

4) I agree peaceful demonstrations are good, I disagree that no felons should ever be disarmed. It is a right and must remain so especially since police are not there to protect you so you have to protect yourself and your family. I would like to see more training on proper handling and use though. (I didn't say anything about disarming anyone)

5) I also agree cops should do their jobs. Over and over the problem has been Democrat politicians ordering police and D.A.s not to do their jobs when the offenders are left wing but then demanding disproportionate applications of the law for everyone else. (You're conflating discussion points and responding to things I didn't say)

Responded to each of your points in the post itself in parentheses.

I do think Rittenhouse's mom is a piece of shit though. I would never, not in 1000 years, take my son/daughter to a riot. They are my offspring and I would never sacrifice them for any god damn thing on God's green Earth. End of.

She never took him to a riot. As testified in court she drove her son to his best friend's house 48 hours before the events that night. How do you not know this? That left wing lie was debunked over a year ago.

I don't keep track of this trial obsessively, that's why. And I don't know that she's telling the truth. Who let's their teen leave for the weekend? Did he take his weapon to spend time with his friend?

Seems odd to me.

Lots of people would let a 17 year old leave for the weekend especially as he has to work in Kenosha, he can sleep at his father's house in Kenosha, his grandparents house is in Kenosha, his aunt & uncle & cousins all live in Kenosha... All within a five mile radius. So he can hang out with his friend, stay with his father at his father's house, go to work in the morning, etc...

Forgive Lily's ignorance. She is a registered Democrat. She doesn't know that Antioch, where Kyle lives in Illinois, is literally a 20 minute drive from Kenosha, in Wisconsin, where Kyle's Dad and many relatives live. She doesn't know this because she only knows what she sees in the media and the echo-chamber within which she lives.

What does being a Democrat have to do with knowing the distances between two different states?

Nothing.

Also, if I let my kid go spend the weekend somewhere it's going to be with family not some friend.

My kids probably spent a weekend or two with friends, but they were friends I knew well, and I knew for sure that none of them had guns or would be shooting anyone at all for entertainment. Pretty close tabs were kept on all of them at all times. That sort of thing never, ever would have happened with my kids. Not in a million fucking years.

And you are upper class white woman, so your 8 year old probably wouldn't have been murdered in the back of your car, either.

Let it happen to other people, right?

 

[Lily]

After reading accounts of the events that night and hearing some testimony, this case really proves that everyone having a gun leads to debacle scenarios.

I don't think anyone, even Kyle Rittenhouse, went there to actively kill anyone. I see where the people shot in this case thought he could be an active shooter, he certainly fits the profile and was walking around with a weapon in a chaotic situation. I believe it's possible that most of those chasing him wanted to actually disarm him and not kill him. I wouldn't trust the average teen male with a weapon. I can see why the EMT guy that survived the shooting might have, in one instant, pointed his gun at Rittenhouse. I'm guessing he also didn't want to die that night.

In his mind, I can see how he thought those chasing him were dangerous to him.

However, at the end of the day, no one shot at him, no matter what he believed. I don't think he should be found guilty.

I do think Americans should remember what peaceful demonstrations are, on all sides. No one needs to be armed to voice their concerns, anger or distrust about an issue.

The cops need to do their jobs regardless of whether they're being appreciated or not. The work for money, not for praise or appreciation. Their mottos often say "to serve and protect", they don't say "we're here to be appreciated".


Too many guns around situations that are full of emotion is a terrible idea.

I will begin by thanking you for being the most reasonable left leaning person on this topic. That is a good thing. Now a few points:

1) Rosenbaum and Ziminski definitely came there looking for trouble. Ziminski even told cops "I came to cause chaos and fuck shit up." Those are also the two people who ambushed and attacked Kyle so all blame falls on them. Oh, Ziminski also incited the mob to chase and attack Kyle after the first incident where Ziminski fired the first shoots. (No proof that it was to find attack Rittenhouse)

2) Even ADA Binger showed video of someone, "the unknown shooter" as they called him at trial, fired three rounds at Kyle during the first incident. This is inaddition to Ziminski firing at least one round. (Even if shots were fired, with the proximity of all these individuals, if they meant to harm him, they could have shot him dead)

3) Grosskreutz is not an EMT. He is an Antifa militant who does "weapons training" for far left communist revutionary groups according to his own social media posts. (He could have shot him and didn't, end of)

4) I agree peaceful demonstrations are good, I disagree that no felons should ever be disarmed. It is a right and must remain so especially since police are not there to protect you so you have to protect yourself and your family. I would like to see more training on proper handling and use though. (I didn't say anything about disarming anyone)

5) I also agree cops should do their jobs. Over and over the problem has been Democrat politicians ordering police and D.A.s not to do their jobs when the offenders are left wing but then demanding disproportionate applications of the law for everyone else. (You're conflating discussion points and responding to things I didn't say)

Responded to each of your points in the post itself in parentheses.

I do think Rittenhouse's mom is a piece of shit though. I would never, not in 1000 years, take my son/daughter to a riot. They are my offspring and I would never sacrifice them for any god damn thing on God's green Earth. End of.

She never took him to a riot. As testified in court she drove her son to his best friend's house 48 hours before the events that night. How do you not know this? That left wing lie was debunked over a year ago.

I don't keep track of this trial obsessively, that's why. And I don't know that she's telling the truth. Who let's their teen leave for the weekend? Did he take his weapon to spend time with his friend?

Seems odd to me.

Lots of people would let a 17 year old leave for the weekend especially as he has to work in Kenosha, he can sleep at his father's house in Kenosha, his grandparents house is in Kenosha, his aunt & uncle & cousins all live in Kenosha... All within a five mile radius. So he can hang out with his friend, stay with his father at his father's house, go to work in the morning, etc...

Forgive Lily's ignorance. She is a registered Democrat. She doesn't know that Antioch, where Kyle lives in Illinois, is literally a 20 minute drive from Kenosha, in Wisconsin, where Kyle's Dad and many relatives live. She doesn't know this because she only knows what she sees in the media and the echo-chamber within which she lives.

What does being a Democrat have to do with knowing the distances between two different states?

Nothing.

Also, if I let my kid go spend the weekend somewhere it's going to be with family not some friend.

My kids probably spent a weekend or two with friends, but they were friends I knew well, and I knew for sure that none of them had guns or would be shooting anyone at all for entertainment. Pretty close tabs were kept on all of them at all times. That sort of thing never, ever would have happened with my kids. Not in a million fucking years.

I was a single mom when my kids were teens, so I let a friend or two stay over, but wouldn't let them spend time elsewhere where I couldn't supervise them.

My kids never would be in this situation either. My kids never flirted with authoritarianism or any nationalist movement. I think I raised them better than that. One of my kids went to a peaceful protest, but it was peaceful and if it hadn't been, she would have left. eta: She was also 21 and not 17.

 

[LotusBud]

After reading accounts of the events that night and hearing some testimony, this case really proves that everyone having a gun leads to debacle scenarios.

I don't think anyone, even Kyle Rittenhouse, went there to actively kill anyone. I see where the people shot in this case thought he could be an active shooter, he certainly fits the profile and was walking around with a weapon in a chaotic situation. I believe it's possible that most of those chasing him wanted to actually disarm him and not kill him. I wouldn't trust the average teen male with a weapon. I can see why the EMT guy that survived the shooting might have, in one instant, pointed his gun at Rittenhouse. I'm guessing he also didn't want to die that night.

In his mind, I can see how he thought those chasing him were dangerous to him.

However, at the end of the day, no one shot at him, no matter what he believed. I don't think he should be found guilty.

I do think Americans should remember what peaceful demonstrations are, on all sides. No one needs to be armed to voice their concerns, anger or distrust about an issue.

The cops need to do their jobs regardless of whether they're being appreciated or not. The work for money, not for praise or appreciation. Their mottos often say "to serve and protect", they don't say "we're here to be appreciated".


Too many guns around situations that are full of emotion is a terrible idea.

I will begin by thanking you for being the most reasonable left leaning person on this topic. That is a good thing. Now a few points:

1) Rosenbaum and Ziminski definitely came there looking for trouble. Ziminski even told cops "I came to cause chaos and fuck shit up." Those are also the two people who ambushed and attacked Kyle so all blame falls on them. Oh, Ziminski also incited the mob to chase and attack Kyle after the first incident where Ziminski fired the first shoots. (No proof that it was to find attack Rittenhouse)

2) Even ADA Binger showed video of someone, "the unknown shooter" as they called him at trial, fired three rounds at Kyle during the first incident. This is inaddition to Ziminski firing at least one round. (Even if shots were fired, with the proximity of all these individuals, if they meant to harm him, they could have shot him dead)

3) Grosskreutz is not an EMT. He is an Antifa militant who does "weapons training" for far left communist revutionary groups according to his own social media posts. (He could have shot him and didn't, end of)

4) I agree peaceful demonstrations are good, I disagree that no felons should ever be disarmed. It is a right and must remain so especially since police are not there to protect you so you have to protect yourself and your family. I would like to see more training on proper handling and use though. (I didn't say anything about disarming anyone)

5) I also agree cops should do their jobs. Over and over the problem has been Democrat politicians ordering police and D.A.s not to do their jobs when the offenders are left wing but then demanding disproportionate applications of the law for everyone else. (You're conflating discussion points and responding to things I didn't say)

Responded to each of your points in the post itself in parentheses.

I do think Rittenhouse's mom is a piece of shit though. I would never, not in 1000 years, take my son/daughter to a riot. They are my offspring and I would never sacrifice them for any god damn thing on God's green Earth. End of.

She never took him to a riot. As testified in court she drove her son to his best friend's house 48 hours before the events that night. How do you not know this? That left wing lie was debunked over a year ago.

I don't keep track of this trial obsessively, that's why. And I don't know that she's telling the truth. Who let's their teen leave for the weekend? Did he take his weapon to spend time with his friend?

Seems odd to me.

Lots of people would let a 17 year old leave for the weekend especially as he has to work in Kenosha, he can sleep at his father's house in Kenosha, his grandparents house is in Kenosha, his aunt & uncle & cousins all live in Kenosha... All within a five mile radius. So he can hang out with his friend, stay with his father at his father's house, go to work in the morning, etc...

Forgive Lily's ignorance. She is a registered Democrat. She doesn't know that Antioch, where Kyle lives in Illinois, is literally a 20 minute drive from Kenosha, in Wisconsin, where Kyle's Dad and many relatives live. She doesn't know this because she only knows what she sees in the media and the echo-chamber within which she lives.

What does being a Democrat have to do with knowing the distances between two different states?

Nothing.

Also, if I let my kid go spend the weekend somewhere it's going to be with family not some friend.

My kids probably spent a weekend or two with friends, but they were friends I knew well, and I knew for sure that none of them had guns or would be shooting anyone at all for entertainment. Pretty close tabs were kept on all of them at all times. That sort of thing never, ever would have happened with my kids. Not in a million fucking years.

I was a single mom when my kids were teens, so I let a friend or two stay over, but wouldn't let them spend time elsewhere where I couldn't supervise them.

My kids never would be in this situation either. My kids never flirted with authoritarianism or any nationalist movement. I think I raised them better than that. One of my kids went to a peaceful protest, but it was peaceful and if it hadn't been, she would have left.

My son was in Portland during most of the unrest. He never even saw it. He's interested in peaceful protests, but he avoided all of this stuff. So did all of his friends. Not worth it at all.

 

[Lily]

After reading accounts of the events that night and hearing some testimony, this case really proves that everyone having a gun leads to debacle scenarios.

I don't think anyone, even Kyle Rittenhouse, went there to actively kill anyone. I see where the people shot in this case thought he could be an active shooter, he certainly fits the profile and was walking around with a weapon in a chaotic situation. I believe it's possible that most of those chasing him wanted to actually disarm him and not kill him. I wouldn't trust the average teen male with a weapon. I can see why the EMT guy that survived the shooting might have, in one instant, pointed his gun at Rittenhouse. I'm guessing he also didn't want to die that night.

In his mind, I can see how he thought those chasing him were dangerous to him.

However, at the end of the day, no one shot at him, no matter what he believed. I don't think he should be found guilty.

I do think Americans should remember what peaceful demonstrations are, on all sides. No one needs to be armed to voice their concerns, anger or distrust about an issue.

The cops need to do their jobs regardless of whether they're being appreciated or not. The work for money, not for praise or appreciation. Their mottos often say "to serve and protect", they don't say "we're here to be appreciated".


Too many guns around situations that are full of emotion is a terrible idea.

I will begin by thanking you for being the most reasonable left leaning person on this topic. That is a good thing. Now a few points:

1) Rosenbaum and Ziminski definitely came there looking for trouble. Ziminski even told cops "I came to cause chaos and fuck shit up." Those are also the two people who ambushed and attacked Kyle so all blame falls on them. Oh, Ziminski also incited the mob to chase and attack Kyle after the first incident where Ziminski fired the first shoots. (No proof that it was to find attack Rittenhouse)

2) Even ADA Binger showed video of someone, "the unknown shooter" as they called him at trial, fired three rounds at Kyle during the first incident. This is inaddition to Ziminski firing at least one round. (Even if shots were fired, with the proximity of all these individuals, if they meant to harm him, they could have shot him dead)

3) Grosskreutz is not an EMT. He is an Antifa militant who does "weapons training" for far left communist revutionary groups according to his own social media posts. (He could have shot him and didn't, end of)

4) I agree peaceful demonstrations are good, I disagree that no felons should ever be disarmed. It is a right and must remain so especially since police are not there to protect you so you have to protect yourself and your family. I would like to see more training on proper handling and use though. (I didn't say anything about disarming anyone)

5) I also agree cops should do their jobs. Over and over the problem has been Democrat politicians ordering police and D.A.s not to do their jobs when the offenders are left wing but then demanding disproportionate applications of the law for everyone else. (You're conflating discussion points and responding to things I didn't say)

Responded to each of your points in the post itself in parentheses.

I do think Rittenhouse's mom is a piece of shit though. I would never, not in 1000 years, take my son/daughter to a riot. They are my offspring and I would never sacrifice them for any god damn thing on God's green Earth. End of.

She never took him to a riot. As testified in court she drove her son to his best friend's house 48 hours before the events that night. How do you not know this? That left wing lie was debunked over a year ago.

I don't keep track of this trial obsessively, that's why. And I don't know that she's telling the truth. Who let's their teen leave for the weekend? Did he take his weapon to spend time with his friend?

Seems odd to me.

Lots of people would let a 17 year old leave for the weekend especially as he has to work in Kenosha, he can sleep at his father's house in Kenosha, his grandparents house is in Kenosha, his aunt & uncle & cousins all live in Kenosha... All within a five mile radius. So he can hang out with his friend, stay with his father at his father's house, go to work in the morning, etc...

Forgive Lily's ignorance. She is a registered Democrat. She doesn't know that Antioch, where Kyle lives in Illinois, is literally a 20 minute drive from Kenosha, in Wisconsin, where Kyle's Dad and many relatives live. She doesn't know this because she only knows what she sees in the media and the echo-chamber within which she lives.

What does being a Democrat have to do with knowing the distances between two different states?

Nothing.

Also, if I let my kid go spend the weekend somewhere it's going to be with family not some friend.

My kids probably spent a weekend or two with friends, but they were friends I knew well, and I knew for sure that none of them had guns or would be shooting anyone at all for entertainment. Pretty close tabs were kept on all of them at all times. That sort of thing never, ever would have happened with my kids. Not in a million fucking years.

I was a single mom when my kids were teens, so I let a friend or two stay over, but wouldn't let them spend time elsewhere where I couldn't supervise them.

My kids never would be in this situation either. My kids never flirted with authoritarianism or any nationalist movement. I think I raised them better than that. One of my kids went to a peaceful protest, but it was peaceful and if it hadn't been, she would have left.

My son was in Portland during most of the unrest. He never even saw it. He's interested in peaceful protests, but he avoided all of this stuff. So did all of his friends. Not worth it at all.

Good for him, you can't win with violence. It's best to stay away.

 

[LotusBud]

I went to a BLM protest here in Portugal last year. Of course, it was as peaceful as you could get.

 

[Lily]

I went to a BLM protest here in Portugal last year. Of course, it was as peaceful as you could get.

I wouldn't go to a protest here for almost anything anymore. The right-wing troublemakers show up to agitate and there are stupid people on the left that allow themselves to be pulled in by emotion.

But, I've never seen anything like what happened on the right on January 6th. Hunting legislators to hang them?

 

[Reggie_Essent]

Attention dumbasses! Kyle's victims may have been creeps, but that doesn't give Kyle the right to murder them. He doesn't get to choose who lives and who dies, and neither do you Kyle apologists.

Is that the post you're talking about, Reggie Asshead?

Look what I made you do!

Yes, that's close enough. That poast is a clear defense of the verminous criminal Democrat scum engaged in orchestrated mayhem and violence that the young hero Kyle killed in clear self defense. But there was another one, dear, where you said the criminal Democrat boy sodomizer "didn't deserve" to die in a "Trump riot."

See if you can find that one, dear. It should be in this thread as well.

 

[Reggie_Essent]

After reading accounts of the events that night and hearing some testimony, this case really proves that everyone having a gun leads to debacle scenarios.

I don't think anyone, even Kyle Rittenhouse, went there to actively kill anyone. I see where the people shot in this case thought he could be an active shooter, he certainly fits the profile and was walking around with a weapon in a chaotic situation. I believe it's possible that most of those chasing him wanted to actually disarm him and not kill him. I wouldn't trust the average teen male with a weapon. I can see why the EMT guy that survived the shooting might have, in one instant, pointed his gun at Rittenhouse. I'm guessing he also didn't want to die that night.

In his mind, I can see how he thought those chasing him were dangerous to him.

However, at the end of the day, no one shot at him, no matter what he believed. I don't think he should be found guilty.

I do think Americans should remember what peaceful demonstrations are, on all sides. No one needs to be armed to voice their concerns, anger or distrust about an issue.

The cops need to do their jobs regardless of whether they're being appreciated or not. The work for money, not for praise or appreciation. Their mottos often say "to serve and protect", they don't say "we're here to be appreciated".


Too many guns around situations that are full of emotion is a terrible idea.

I will begin by thanking you for being the most reasonable left leaning person on this topic. That is a good thing. Now a few points:

1) Rosenbaum and Ziminski definitely came there looking for trouble. Ziminski even told cops "I came to cause chaos and fuck shit up." Those are also the two people who ambushed and attacked Kyle so all blame falls on them. Oh, Ziminski also incited the mob to chase and attack Kyle after the first incident where Ziminski fired the first shoots. (No proof that it was to find attack Rittenhouse)

2) Even ADA Binger showed video of someone, "the unknown shooter" as they called him at trial, fired three rounds at Kyle during the first incident. This is inaddition to Ziminski firing at least one round. (Even if shots were fired, with the proximity of all these individuals, if they meant to harm him, they could have shot him dead)

3) Grosskreutz is not an EMT. He is an Antifa militant who does "weapons training" for far left communist revutionary groups according to his own social media posts. (He could have shot him and didn't, end of)

4) I agree peaceful demonstrations are good, I disagree that no felons should ever be disarmed. It is a right and must remain so especially since police are not there to protect you so you have to protect yourself and your family. I would like to see more training on proper handling and use though. (I didn't say anything about disarming anyone)

5) I also agree cops should do their jobs. Over and over the problem has been Democrat politicians ordering police and D.A.s not to do their jobs when the offenders are left wing but then demanding disproportionate applications of the law for everyone else. (You're conflating discussion points and responding to things I didn't say)

Responded to each of your points in the post itself in parentheses.

I do think Rittenhouse's mom is a piece of shit though. I would never, not in 1000 years, take my son/daughter to a riot. They are my offspring and I would never sacrifice them for any god damn thing on God's green Earth. End of.

She never took him to a riot. As testified in court she drove her son to his best friend's house 48 hours before the events that night. How do you not know this? That left wing lie was debunked over a year ago.

I don't keep track of this trial obsessively, that's why. And I don't know that she's telling the truth. Who let's their teen leave for the weekend? Did he take his weapon to spend time with his friend?

Seems odd to me.

Lots of people would let a 17 year old leave for the weekend especially as he has to work in Kenosha, he can sleep at his father's house in Kenosha, his grandparents house is in Kenosha, his aunt & uncle & cousins all live in Kenosha... All within a five mile radius. So he can hang out with his friend, stay with his father at his father's house, go to work in the morning, etc...

Forgive Lily's ignorance. She is a registered Democrat. She doesn't know that Antioch, where Kyle lives in Illinois, is literally a 20 minute drive from Kenosha, in Wisconsin, where Kyle's Dad and many relatives live. She doesn't know this because she only knows what she sees in the media and the echo-chamber within which she lives.

What does being a Democrat have to do with knowing the distances between two different states?

Nothing.

Also, if I let my kid go spend the weekend somewhere it's going to be with family not some friend.

Er, what part of "Kyle's dad lives in Kenosha" do you not understand?

 

[Lokmar]

That was an absolutely stupid move by Binger. On the upside it was new that Rosenbaum threatened Kyle a second time telling him "I will cut your heart out and eat it."

Stop spamming, TwitterOdor.

Get in the rape dumpster, tramp.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

That was an absolutely stupid move by Binger. On the upside it was new that Rosenbaum threatened Kyle a second time telling him "I will cut your heart out and eat it."

Stop spamming, TwitterOdor.

Get in the rape dumpster, tramp.

Poor soul doing the raping

I'd rather have my face stuffed into my own stomach pouch and suffocated

 

[Lily]

After reading accounts of the events that night and hearing some testimony, this case really proves that everyone having a gun leads to debacle scenarios.

I don't think anyone, even Kyle Rittenhouse, went there to actively kill anyone. I see where the people shot in this case thought he could be an active shooter, he certainly fits the profile and was walking around with a weapon in a chaotic situation. I believe it's possible that most of those chasing him wanted to actually disarm him and not kill him. I wouldn't trust the average teen male with a weapon. I can see why the EMT guy that survived the shooting might have, in one instant, pointed his gun at Rittenhouse. I'm guessing he also didn't want to die that night.

In his mind, I can see how he thought those chasing him were dangerous to him.

However, at the end of the day, no one shot at him, no matter what he believed. I don't think he should be found guilty.

I do think Americans should remember what peaceful demonstrations are, on all sides. No one needs to be armed to voice their concerns, anger or distrust about an issue.

The cops need to do their jobs regardless of whether they're being appreciated or not. The work for money, not for praise or appreciation. Their mottos often say "to serve and protect", they don't say "we're here to be appreciated".


Too many guns around situations that are full of emotion is a terrible idea.

I will begin by thanking you for being the most reasonable left leaning person on this topic. That is a good thing. Now a few points:

1) Rosenbaum and Ziminski definitely came there looking for trouble. Ziminski even told cops "I came to cause chaos and fuck shit up." Those are also the two people who ambushed and attacked Kyle so all blame falls on them. Oh, Ziminski also incited the mob to chase and attack Kyle after the first incident where Ziminski fired the first shoots. (No proof that it was to find attack Rittenhouse)

2) Even ADA Binger showed video of someone, "the unknown shooter" as they called him at trial, fired three rounds at Kyle during the first incident. This is inaddition to Ziminski firing at least one round. (Even if shots were fired, with the proximity of all these individuals, if they meant to harm him, they could have shot him dead)

3) Grosskreutz is not an EMT. He is an Antifa militant who does "weapons training" for far left communist revutionary groups according to his own social media posts. (He could have shot him and didn't, end of)

4) I agree peaceful demonstrations are good, I disagree that no felons should ever be disarmed. It is a right and must remain so especially since police are not there to protect you so you have to protect yourself and your family. I would like to see more training on proper handling and use though. (I didn't say anything about disarming anyone)

5) I also agree cops should do their jobs. Over and over the problem has been Democrat politicians ordering police and D.A.s not to do their jobs when the offenders are left wing but then demanding disproportionate applications of the law for everyone else. (You're conflating discussion points and responding to things I didn't say)

Responded to each of your points in the post itself in parentheses.

I do think Rittenhouse's mom is a piece of shit though. I would never, not in 1000 years, take my son/daughter to a riot. They are my offspring and I would never sacrifice them for any god damn thing on God's green Earth. End of.

She never took him to a riot. As testified in court she drove her son to his best friend's house 48 hours before the events that night. How do you not know this? That left wing lie was debunked over a year ago.

I don't keep track of this trial obsessively, that's why. And I don't know that she's telling the truth. Who let's their teen leave for the weekend? Did he take his weapon to spend time with his friend?

Seems odd to me.

Lots of people would let a 17 year old leave for the weekend especially as he has to work in Kenosha, he can sleep at his father's house in Kenosha, his grandparents house is in Kenosha, his aunt & uncle & cousins all live in Kenosha... All within a five mile radius. So he can hang out with his friend, stay with his father at his father's house, go to work in the morning, etc...

Forgive Lily's ignorance. She is a registered Democrat. She doesn't know that Antioch, where Kyle lives in Illinois, is literally a 20 minute drive from Kenosha, in Wisconsin, where Kyle's Dad and many relatives live. She doesn't know this because she only knows what she sees in the media and the echo-chamber within which she lives.

What does being a Democrat have to do with knowing the distances between two different states?

Nothing.

Also, if I let my kid go spend the weekend somewhere it's going to be with family not some friend.

Er, what part of "Kyle's dad lives in Kenosha" do you not understand?

But he wasn't with his dad, so IDGAF

 

[Lokmar]

In any civilized society bringer would be underwater right now with a cinderblock chained to his foot

Certainly, because in the "civilized" societies you mention habeas corpus gives way to mob rule.

LoLz at you contardians.

The mob should burn you at the stake.