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Wow - that is totally conclusive. "could have", "not necesssarily" - I'm convinced.
.. I do agree with one bit of that quote - between two and 5 bullets fired. Yeah...3.
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Well, well, well, these morons don't believe Oswald did it
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.. I do agree with one bit of that quote - between two and 5 bullets fired. Yeah...3.
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Too bad the one Dr who actually saw the wound in it's original state said otherwise. LoLz
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Ruby’s trial refutes the conspiracy theories that would have the mafia, the CIA, communists, Big Business or new President Lyndon Johnson hiring Ruby to silence Oswald before he could finger them. On Saturday, Nov. 23, 1963, a day after the assassination, Dallas newspapers and television stations announced that Oswald would be moved from police headquarters to the courthouse at 10 a.m. on Sunday. At the last minute his transfer was delayed for an hour when a U.S. postal inspector suddenly arrived and insisted on interrogating him. Meanwhile, Ruby had driven to a nearby Western Union office to wire $25 to an employee. The clerk handed him a receipt stamped 11:17 a.m. and recalled him appearing calm and collected. Upon leaving, Ruby noticed a crowd gathered around a ramp leading up from an underground police headquarters garage. He crossed the street and walked down the ramp and into the garage without being challenged. Oswald emerged from a door in the garage at 11:21, handcuffed and flanked by police officers.
Ruby idolized Kennedy and during the two days following his assassination had frequently burst into tears, sobbing uncontrollably. Faced suddenly with an opportunity to avenge the president’s death, he stepped forward from a crowd of reporters, pulled out the loaded .38 caliber revolver that he carried to protect the cash receipts he collected from his clubs, and fired point blank into Oswald’s stomach, mortally wounding him. It was an impulsive and opportunistic murder, not the final act of a conspiracy. Had he planned the killing in advance, he would have driven downtown an hour earlier, when Oswald was scheduled to be transferred, and he would not have left his beloved dachshund Sheba (a dog he sometimes called “my wife”) locked in his car, where she could easily have died following his arrest.
"He always wore a suit and hat," recalled a Ruby niece, one of two surviving relatives in Chicago. She asked that we not give her identity, because of repeated reprisals over the years. The daughter of Ruby’s sister, Eileen, the 60-year-old woman says she vividly remembers a trip to see her uncle Jack just three months before the assassination. She was just 10 years old.
"He had a wonderful dog who would never come out from under the bed to play with us," she recalled. That dog, Ruby’s beloved dachshund Sheba, would later become a piece of evidence in the investigation.
"You know, he was outgoing and gregarious, and laughed a lot," said a sister, who has also kept her relationship to Ruby so secret that she has not told her own children. As the two sisters told their story for the first time, one said that her efforts over the years to explain her uncle’s actions had proven largely fruitless with listeners who refuse to believe that a larger conspiracy was not afoot.
"They don’t want to hear a simple story like he was a hothead guy, a really emotional guy in the wrong place at the wrong time," she said. "I have tried at various times over the years and it’s gone bad."
Sitting in the living room of a north side high rise, the sisters showed a visiting reporter mementoes of their uncle Jack: his "JR" cufflinks, a locket which Ruby gave their mother, and the checkerboard he used in jail.
"After the assassination, when he was in prison, he would call our house a lot," one recalled. Her older sister added: "He was always sort of apologetic and many times he would sort of start to cry, and ask for forgiveness for what he had done to the family."
But it was a different phone call they remembered the most. It was the evening of the assassination, November 22, 1963. Ruby was upset. And he wanted to come home to Chicago.
"Jack called and he was crying. He was upset, and he wanted to come to Chicago and be with the family for the weekend," one of his nieces recalled. But their mother told Ruby no. He needed to stay in Dallas with their sister who was recovering from surgery.
No one knows for certain if Ruby would have left town if his sister had encouraged the trip. Instead, he stayed in Dallas and shot Lee Harvey Oswald in front of a national television audience two days later.
"I know she felt guilty about that 'til the day she died,” one of the sisters recalled, although she said her mother rarely talked about the assassination. Instead, she would often leave to be at Ruby’s side.
"After he killed Oswald, and during the trial, she’d be gone for three, four, five, even six weeks at a time."
On the morning of his appointment with history, Ruby hardly displayed the planning of a cunning killer. Oswald had been scheduled for transfer from the Dallas Police jail at 10 a.m. But it wasn’t until 11 a.m. that Ruby arrived downtown, planning to wire some money to one of his dancers. He walked to the Western Union office, leaving the dog, Sheba in his car.
"If he had planned to do anything, he never would have left that dog in danger," one of the sisters recalled.
Instead, walking back to his car after the wire transfer, Ruby noticed activity at the entrance ramp to the Dallas Police garage. He walked down the ramp, and as Oswald emerged, he pulled the gun he always carried, and fired.
A receipt from the Western Union office showed that just four minutes had elapsed.
Ruby’s nieces maintained investigators got it right. Ruby was not a mobster. He had no mission. He was just a man who was overcome with grief.
"Just the perfect storm, just the events came together, for that shooting to occur,' the younger sister remembered. "If he did think about it in that snap, he thought he was going to be a hero. Thought he was going to be a big shot. People were going to thank him for killing the man who killed the president."
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Making excuses for Ruby's behavior -- laughable. If he was insane enough to go shoot Oswald on the spur of the moment, he was insane enough to leave his dog, under any circumstance.
• When Ruby was a teenager in Chicago, he ran errands for Al Capone. As an adult, he had ties to members of the Giancana, Hoffa, Marcello, and Trafficante families. In 1959 he visited Trafficante in his Cuban jail cell, where Castro had thrown the mobster after the revolution.
• When Ruby was a teenager in Chicago, he ran errands for Al Capone. As an adult, he had ties to members of the Giancana, Hoffa, Marcello, and Trafficante families. In 1959 he visited Trafficante in his Cuban jail cell, where Castro had thrown the mobster after the revolution.
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You mind my asking an impertinent question, Lotus?
How could you be touting a 10 part series before part 2 was issued? I mean - you don't even know what's in it but you already believe it lock, stock and barrel. wtf?
I didn't say I believe it lock, stock, and barrel. I am listening to see what they say. I have also watched, read about, and listened to many pieces touting the official magic bullet theory, so I know what they say quite well. See, I remained open to both sides for a long time. I find the magic bullet, Jack Ruby as a passionate guy theories to be unbelievable.
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Really - so you think he got up late, reminded himself he had to make a Western Union transfer bringing his puppy wife along for company, strolled into the underground parking garage over 1 hr late for the murder (which had been meticulously planned by the CIA for 10 AM) and shot Ozzie saying "I hope the bastard dies". Otay
I gave you expert analysis of the ballistics and physics involved in the 2nd shot by Oswald (the not so magic bullet), but you dismiss that because no way could that happen no matter what anyone sez - it just couldn't that's why. Okay, never mind.
Ballgame starting. Me, Sasquatch and an Alien got the popcorn already made.
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I'm getting tired of this. Honestly. I will never believe Oswald did the assassination on his own unless all of the questions I have are answered with logic and evidence. You will never believe anyone else helped him (even with logic and evidence. Okay, I had to throw that shot in there). Let's move on.
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Not in the absence of compelling evidence - no.
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The compelling photographic evidence they didn't want you to see. Bookmark them before they take them down
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