Kyle Rittenhouse to go free!!!

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Did anyone die on night two, Duh'v?

How much, in terms of money, is one life worth?

I am not even talking about the scumbags that died. I mean the life of an average, decent person.
PV of projected future earnings* averaged over est. years of life remaining.


*A Rocket Surgeons PV would be higher than a Fedex Driver's PV

No. I am not just talking about monetary value.

You have to look at a person as a whole. A FedEx driver could be worth a lot more than a "Rocket Surgeon" based on his overall contribution to society, much of which does not have monetary value.

You need to try to covert all forms of value to a monetary figure.

If you are unwilling to do this, I understand.
You can add or subtract any variables you desire it's your model that you have to sell to the Jury, but typically the discussion of worth refers to cash value.

Well wouldn't you agree that the protesters were at fault too and they largely brought their own deaths upon themselves?

So it's not about blaming Kyle for everything it's finding fault with em too.

Wouldn’t you agree?

No, these people dont care about rioters killing people and destroying communities.

Have you seen any of them bring up any if the innocent people murdered?

I havent seen you address it either. The way you are talking, youd likely think Secoriea Turners mother should also be put on probation cause it's kinda her fault too that rioters gunned her car down and murdered her 8 year old daughter.

In fact Lily actually blame the mother.
 

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Did anyone die on night two, Duh'v?

How much, in terms of money, is one life worth?

I am not even talking about the scumbags that died. I mean the life of an average, decent person.
PV of projected future earnings* averaged over est. years of life remaining.


*A Rocket Surgeons PV would be higher than a Fedex Driver's PV

No. I am not just talking about monetary value.

You have to look at a person as a whole. A FedEx driver could be worth a lot more than a "Rocket Surgeon" based on his overall contribution to society, much of which does not have monetary value.

You need to try to covert all forms of value to a monetary figure.

If you are unwilling to do this, I understand.
You can add or subtract any variables you desire it's your model that you have to sell to the Jury, but typically the discussion of worth refers to cash value.

Well wouldn't you agree that the protesters were at fault too and they largely brought their own deaths upon themselves?

So it's not about blaming Kyle for everything it's finding fault with em too.

Wouldn’t you agree?
In America we have the right to assemblage and opinions.

...with power increasingly projected and coming out of the barrel of a gun.

Oh don't worry...both Left and right do it which leads to the rise of violence, political extremism and eventually authoritarianism.

That is the mistake I think America is making.
 

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Funny is funny, regardless of politics.
That's one of my chops.. I saw Admin's post and couldn't resist :D


I figured it was. It took me a second to see the difference, but then I laughed. It's a good one, you're good at your chops!

That's why I thought it was wrong to give preference to Rittenhouse because it validates more gun violence and political extremism.

I think there was a way to sentence Kyle but not punish him. Ie probation not prison.

He's going to be emboldened like Zimmerman was, just wait.

I thought probation as opposed to prison was appropriate so he could get back on the right track in life with the possibility of his criminal record erased after 10 years with good behavior.

But now who are gonna be his 'friends' and role models that he'll hang out with from now on? Some gun toting Neo Confederates who will feed the boy and use him for their own political agenda?

You're right he ll get 8n with the wrong crowd

I thought the best approach in his case would have been reform but not punishment such as prison

If Matt Gaetz gets his way, he'll be getting drilled soon.
Matt would love to have Kyle in the family way, soon.


He's offering him an "internship". lol

only in America will
Did anyone die on night two, Duh'v?

How much, in terms of money, is one life worth?

I am not even talking about the scumbags that died. I mean the life of an average, decent person.
PV of projected future earnings* averaged over est. years of life remaining.


*A Rocket Surgeons PV would be higher than a Fedex Driver's PV

No. I am not just talking about monetary value.

You have to look at a person as a whole. A FedEx driver could be worth a lot more than a "Rocket Surgeon" based on his overall contribution to society, much of which does not have monetary value.

You need to try to covert all forms of value to a monetary figure.

If you are unwilling to do this, I understand.
You can add or subtract any variables you desire it's your model that you have to sell to the Jury, but typically the discussion of worth refers to cash value.

Well wouldn't you agree that the protesters were at fault too and they largely brought their own deaths upon themselves?

So it's not about blaming Kyle for everything it's finding fault with em too.

Wouldn’t you agree?

I don’t believe that men armed with a plastic bag and a skateboard are guilty for trying to defend themselves against an active shooter with an assault rifle with all of the mass live shooter massacres that plague society.

Breaking curfew and vandalism are not punishable by death in this country.


At the end of the day, the adults didn't shoot at him or stab him, they chased him. I no longer trust the average teen male in America, especially if he's armed.

It started with Columbine and has been getting steadily worse.
 

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Did anyone die on night two, Duh'v?

How much, in terms of money, is one life worth?

I am not even talking about the scumbags that died. I mean the life of an average, decent person.
PV of projected future earnings* averaged over est. years of life remaining.


*A Rocket Surgeons PV would be higher than a Fedex Driver's PV

No. I am not just talking about monetary value.

You have to look at a person as a whole. A FedEx driver could be worth a lot more than a "Rocket Surgeon" based on his overall contribution to society, much of which does not have monetary value.

You need to try to covert all forms of value to a monetary figure.

If you are unwilling to do this, I understand.
You can add or subtract any variables you desire it's your model that you have to sell to the Jury, but typically the discussion of worth refers to cash value.

Well wouldn't you agree that the protesters were at fault too and they largely brought their own deaths upon themselves?

So it's not about blaming Kyle for everything it's finding fault with em too.

Wouldn’t you agree?

No, these people dont care about rioters killing people and destroying communities.

Have you seen any of them bring up any if the innocent people murdered?

I havent seen you address it either. The way you are talking, youd likely think Secoriea Turners mother should also be put on probation cause it's kinda her fault too that rioters gunned her car down and murdered her 8 year old daughter.

In fact Lily actually blame the mother.
Lily is a piece of shit. What did you expect?
 

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He sees this as a matter of political sides and he is completely unable to see past that.

I think Joe needs a lot of time, at least a day, to process anything he reads. If he responds to anything you type within a day, he surely has not taken enough time to process what you have said. Not that it is guaranteed that he will ever process what you have said.

You must have noticed that when you post something and he responds, it is like he did not even read your post.

This is why I asked him if he has a known learning disability.

If his lack of comprehension is due to a learning disability, I would not want to be too hard on him. But if it just stems out of a complete lack of respect for other people (i.e. taking the necessary time to read and process what they are saying before responding), then fuck him.

Yeah it's happened where he has answered me and it was like he never read my post.

Like here.....I've told him several times these riots have claimed up to 40 innocent lives....named some of the victims, informed him of several people brutally beaten and billions in damage to private property.

And he just keeps acting like innocent people in the communities attacked are just the "other side" in some partisan dispute and I do not know how anyone can fucking think like.

I guess forcing political violence on innocent people(who knows what their politics are....and it doesnt matter) just makes them equal combatants now whether they want it or not.

What the fuck?!
 

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Did anyone die on night two, Duh'v?

How much, in terms of money, is one life worth?

I am not even talking about the scumbags that died. I mean the life of an average, decent person.
PV of projected future earnings* averaged over est. years of life remaining.


*A Rocket Surgeons PV would be higher than a Fedex Driver's PV

No. I am not just talking about monetary value.

You have to look at a person as a whole. A FedEx driver could be worth a lot more than a "Rocket Surgeon" based on his overall contribution to society, much of which does not have monetary value.

You need to try to covert all forms of value to a monetary figure.

If you are unwilling to do this, I understand.
You can add or subtract any variables you desire it's your model that you have to sell to the Jury, but typically the discussion of worth refers to cash value.

Well wouldn't you agree that the protesters were at fault too and they largely brought their own deaths upon themselves?

So it's not about blaming Kyle for everything it's finding fault with em too.

Wouldn’t you agree?

No, these people dont care about rioters killing people and destroying communities.

Have you seen any of them bring up any if the innocent people murdered?

I havent seen you address it either. The way you are talking, youd likely think Secoriea Turners mother should also be put on probation cause it's kinda her fault too that rioters gunned her car down and murdered her 8 year old daughter.

In fact Lily actually blame the mother.

Dove answer me on this.

Did I not indicate that the rioters and protesters were at fault too?

Yes or no.
 

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You can add or subtract any variables you desire it's your model that you have to sell to the Jury, but typically the discussion of worth refers to cash value.

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, hoping that you could have a philosophical discussion.

Silly me.
 

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Did anyone die on night two, Duh'v?

How much, in terms of money, is one life worth?

I am not even talking about the scumbags that died. I mean the life of an average, decent person.
PV of projected future earnings* averaged over est. years of life remaining.


*A Rocket Surgeons PV would be higher than a Fedex Driver's PV

No. I am not just talking about monetary value.

You have to look at a person as a whole. A FedEx driver could be worth a lot more than a "Rocket Surgeon" based on his overall contribution to society, much of which does not have monetary value.

You need to try to covert all forms of value to a monetary figure.

If you are unwilling to do this, I understand.
You can add or subtract any variables you desire it's your model that you have to sell to the Jury, but typically the discussion of worth refers to cash value.

Well wouldn't you agree that the protesters were at fault too and they largely brought their own deaths upon themselves?

So it's not about blaming Kyle for everything it's finding fault with em too.

Wouldn’t you agree?

No, these people dont care about rioters killing people and destroying communities.

Have you seen any of them bring up any if the innocent people murdered?

I havent seen you address it either. The way you are talking, youd likely think Secoriea Turners mother should also be put on probation cause it's kinda her fault too that rioters gunned her car down and murdered her 8 year old daughter.

In fact Lily actually blame the mother.
Lily is a piece of shit. What did you expect?

Do you remember that at SG? All she had to say was the mother "shouldnt have drove" down there.

Fucking heartless. And a fucked up way to think. It's not illegal to drive somewhere. It's illegal to fucking SHOOT at random cars and murder children.
 

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Did anyone die on night two, Duh'v?

How much, in terms of money, is one life worth?

I am not even talking about the scumbags that died. I mean the life of an average, decent person.
PV of projected future earnings* averaged over est. years of life remaining.


*A Rocket Surgeons PV would be higher than a Fedex Driver's PV

No. I am not just talking about monetary value.

You have to look at a person as a whole. A FedEx driver could be worth a lot more than a "Rocket Surgeon" based on his overall contribution to society, much of which does not have monetary value.

You need to try to covert all forms of value to a monetary figure.

If you are unwilling to do this, I understand.
You can add or subtract any variables you desire it's your model that you have to sell to the Jury, but typically the discussion of worth refers to cash value.

Well wouldn't you agree that the protesters were at fault too and they largely brought their own deaths upon themselves?

So it's not about blaming Kyle for everything it's finding fault with em too.

Wouldn’t you agree?
In America we have the right to assemblage and opinions.

according to the right, we have zero right to protest peacefully if we live in liberal states…. Because “police are frustrated”

But did you notice it was only the right who went out and armed themselves against protestors

that should tell you everything you need to know about these fascists
 

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Did anyone die on night two, Duh'v?

How much, in terms of money, is one life worth?

I am not even talking about the scumbags that died. I mean the life of an average, decent person.
PV of projected future earnings* averaged over est. years of life remaining.


*A Rocket Surgeons PV would be higher than a Fedex Driver's PV

No. I am not just talking about monetary value.

You have to look at a person as a whole. A FedEx driver could be worth a lot more than a "Rocket Surgeon" based on his overall contribution to society, much of which does not have monetary value.

You need to try to covert all forms of value to a monetary figure.

If you are unwilling to do this, I understand.
You can add or subtract any variables you desire it's your model that you have to sell to the Jury, but typically the discussion of worth refers to cash value.

Well wouldn't you agree that the protesters were at fault too and they largely brought their own deaths upon themselves?

So it's not about blaming Kyle for everything it's finding fault with em too.

Wouldn’t you agree?

No, these people dont care about rioters killing people and destroying communities.

Have you seen any of them bring up any if the innocent people murdered?

I havent seen you address it either. The way you are talking, youd likely think Secoriea Turners mother should also be put on probation cause it's kinda her fault too that rioters gunned her car down and murdered her 8 year old daughter.

In fact Lily actually blame the mother.

Dove answer me on this.

Did I not indicate that the rioters and protesters were at fault too?

Yes or no.

Yeah that's a problem because there is no "too". The fucking innocent people of Kenosha are NOT to blame for rioters attacking their community.

You not being "fair". You've made violent perps victims and innocent people perps equally.

I'd like to see how you've decided Kenoshians are just as guilty as the rioters. You know....the radicals who descended on THEIR community with guns and started burning it, destroying it, viciously beating and attacking locals? How is it their fault they were attacked? Because they exist?

People who get attacked are not just as guilty as the attackers. Stop it.
 

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Funny is funny, regardless of politics.
That's one of my chops.. I saw Admin's post and couldn't resist :D


I figured it was. It took me a second to see the difference, but then I laughed. It's a good one, you're good at your chops!

That's why I thought it was wrong to give preference to Rittenhouse because it validates more gun violence and political extremism.

I think there was a way to sentence Kyle but not punish him. Ie probation not prison.

He's going to be emboldened like Zimmerman was, just wait.

I thought probation as opposed to prison was appropriate so he could get back on the right track in life with the possibility of his criminal record erased after 10 years with good behavior.

But now who are gonna be his 'friends' and role models that he'll hang out with from now on? Some gun toting Neo Confederates who will feed the boy and use him for their own political agenda?

You're right he ll get 8n with the wrong crowd

I thought the best approach in his case would have been reform but not punishment such as prison

If Matt Gaetz gets his way, he'll be getting drilled soon.
Matt would love to have Kyle in the family way, soon.


He's offering him an "internship". lol

only in America will
Did anyone die on night two, Duh'v?

How much, in terms of money, is one life worth?

I am not even talking about the scumbags that died. I mean the life of an average, decent person.
PV of projected future earnings* averaged over est. years of life remaining.


*A Rocket Surgeons PV would be higher than a Fedex Driver's PV

No. I am not just talking about monetary value.

You have to look at a person as a whole. A FedEx driver could be worth a lot more than a "Rocket Surgeon" based on his overall contribution to society, much of which does not have monetary value.

You need to try to covert all forms of value to a monetary figure.

If you are unwilling to do this, I understand.
You can add or subtract any variables you desire it's your model that you have to sell to the Jury, but typically the discussion of worth refers to cash value.

Well wouldn't you agree that the protesters were at fault too and they largely brought their own deaths upon themselves?

So it's not about blaming Kyle for everything it's finding fault with em too.

Wouldn’t you agree?

I don’t believe that men armed with a plastic bag and a skateboard are guilty for trying to defend themselves against an active shooter with an assault rifle with all of the mass live shooter massacres that plague society.

Breaking curfew and vandalism are not punishable by death in this country.


At the end of the day, the adults didn't shoot at him or stab him, they chased him. I no longer trust the average teen male in America, especially if he's armed.

It started with Columbine and has been getting steadily worse.

I don’t trust anyone on the right who is armed. They will shoot first and ask questions later. Reasonably, this should scare the hell out of all of us. But they don’t want to listen to reason… the are consumed with maintaining order devoid of justice and winning.
 

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Did anyone die on night two, Duh'v?

How much, in terms of money, is one life worth?

I am not even talking about the scumbags that died. I mean the life of an average, decent person.
PV of projected future earnings* averaged over est. years of life remaining.


*A Rocket Surgeons PV would be higher than a Fedex Driver's PV

No. I am not just talking about monetary value.

You have to look at a person as a whole. A FedEx driver could be worth a lot more than a "Rocket Surgeon" based on his overall contribution to society, much of which does not have monetary value.

You need to try to covert all forms of value to a monetary figure.

If you are unwilling to do this, I understand.
You can add or subtract any variables you desire it's your model that you have to sell to the Jury, but typically the discussion of worth refers to cash value.

Well wouldn't you agree that the protesters were at fault too and they largely brought their own deaths upon themselves?

So it's not about blaming Kyle for everything it's finding fault with em too.

Wouldn’t you agree?

No, these people dont care about rioters killing people and destroying communities.

Have you seen any of them bring up any if the innocent people murdered?

I havent seen you address it either. The way you are talking, youd likely think Secoriea Turners mother should also be put on probation cause it's kinda her fault too that rioters gunned her car down and murdered her 8 year old daughter.

In fact Lily actually blame the mother.

Dove answer me on this.

Did I not indicate that the rioters and protesters were at fault too?

Yes or no.

Yeah that's a problem because there is no "too". The fucking innocent people of Kenosha are NOT to blame for rioters attacking their community.

You not being "fair". You've made violent perps victims and innocent people perps equally.

I'd like to see how you've decided Kenoshians are just as guilty as the rioters. You know....the radicals who descended on THEIR community with guns and started burning it, destroying it, viciously beating and attacking locals? How is it their fault they were attacked? Because they exist?

People who get attacked are not just as guilty as the attackers. Stop it.

But you still havent answered my question.

Did I find the protesters/rioters at least partially at fault?

Yes or no?
 

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Did anyone die on night two, Duh'v?

How much, in terms of money, is one life worth?

I am not even talking about the scumbags that died. I mean the life of an average, decent person.
PV of projected future earnings* averaged over est. years of life remaining.


*A Rocket Surgeons PV would be higher than a Fedex Driver's PV

No. I am not just talking about monetary value.

You have to look at a person as a whole. A FedEx driver could be worth a lot more than a "Rocket Surgeon" based on his overall contribution to society, much of which does not have monetary value.

You need to try to covert all forms of value to a monetary figure.

If you are unwilling to do this, I understand.
You can add or subtract any variables you desire it's your model that you have to sell to the Jury, but typically the discussion of worth refers to cash value.

Well wouldn't you agree that the protesters were at fault too and they largely brought their own deaths upon themselves?

So it's not about blaming Kyle for everything it's finding fault with em too.

Wouldn’t you agree?

No, these people dont care about rioters killing people and destroying communities.

Have you seen any of them bring up any if the innocent people murdered?

I havent seen you address it either. The way you are talking, youd likely think Secoriea Turners mother should also be put on probation cause it's kinda her fault too that rioters gunned her car down and murdered her 8 year old daughter.

In fact Lily actually blame the mother.

Dove answer me on this.

Did I not indicate that the rioters and protesters were at fault too?

Yes or no.

don’t even bother…. she is biased and lives in a poverty stricken dump and they are 7 to 1 whites vs blacks…
 

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Did anyone die on night two, Duh'v?

How much, in terms of money, is one life worth?

I am not even talking about the scumbags that died. I mean the life of an average, decent person.
PV of projected future earnings* averaged over est. years of life remaining.


*A Rocket Surgeons PV would be higher than a Fedex Driver's PV

No. I am not just talking about monetary value.

You have to look at a person as a whole. A FedEx driver could be worth a lot more than a "Rocket Surgeon" based on his overall contribution to society, much of which does not have monetary value.

You need to try to covert all forms of value to a monetary figure.

If you are unwilling to do this, I understand.
You can add or subtract any variables you desire it's your model that you have to sell to the Jury, but typically the discussion of worth refers to cash value.

Well wouldn't you agree that the protesters were at fault too and they largely brought their own deaths upon themselves?

So it's not about blaming Kyle for everything it's finding fault with em too.

Wouldn’t you agree?

No, these people dont care about rioters killing people and destroying communities.

Have you seen any of them bring up any if the innocent people murdered?

I havent seen you address it either. The way you are talking, youd likely think Secoriea Turners mother should also be put on probation cause it's kinda her fault too that rioters gunned her car down and murdered her 8 year old daughter.

In fact Lily actually blame the mother.

Dove answer me on this.

Did I not indicate that the rioters and protesters were at fault too?

Yes or no.

Yeah that's a problem because there is no "too". The fucking innocent people of Kenosha are NOT to blame for rioters attacking their community.

You not being "fair". You've made violent perps victims and innocent people perps equally.

I'd like to see how you've decided Kenoshians are just as guilty as the rioters. You know....the radicals who descended on THEIR community with guns and started burning it, destroying it, viciously beating and attacking locals? How is it their fault they were attacked? Because they exist?

People who get attacked are not just as guilty as the attackers. Stop it.

But you still havent answered my question.

Did I find the protesters/rioters at least partially at fault?


That doesn't fit the narrative. Good luck. She's not an honest broker of political discussions. The only decent one I've seen yet is @RAVEN
 

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Did anyone die on night two, Duh'v?

How much, in terms of money, is one life worth?

I am not even talking about the scumbags that died. I mean the life of an average, decent person.
PV of projected future earnings* averaged over est. years of life remaining.


*A Rocket Surgeons PV would be higher than a Fedex Driver's PV

No. I am not just talking about monetary value.

You have to look at a person as a whole. A FedEx driver could be worth a lot more than a "Rocket Surgeon" based on his overall contribution to society, much of which does not have monetary value.

You need to try to covert all forms of value to a monetary figure.

If you are unwilling to do this, I understand.
You can add or subtract any variables you desire it's your model that you have to sell to the Jury, but typically the discussion of worth refers to cash value.

Well wouldn't you agree that the protesters were at fault too and they largely brought their own deaths upon themselves?

So it's not about blaming Kyle for everything it's finding fault with em too.

Wouldn’t you agree?

No, these people dont care about rioters killing people and destroying communities.

Have you seen any of them bring up any if the innocent people murdered?

I havent seen you address it either. The way you are talking, youd likely think Secoriea Turners mother should also be put on probation cause it's kinda her fault too that rioters gunned her car down and murdered her 8 year old daughter.

In fact Lily actually blame the mother.

Dove answer me on this.

Did I not indicate that the rioters and protesters were at fault too?

Yes or no.

don’t even bother…. she is biased and lives in a poverty stricken dump and they are 7 to 1 whites vs blacks…


Whoa. I guess this place makes her feel important.
 

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It was only "The Right" that shot killed and maimed anyone that night.

It was an innocent kid who was there to help protect property and render aid to hurt people.

YOU people are the ones who decided Kyle was "the right" and went on the attack with visciousness

You have lost touch with humanity entirely to the point where radicals inflicting violence is acceptable to you and anyone who defends themselves become "the right".

You are mentally ill fucking sociopaths.

I'm sure NOW he will be "right" because no one in their mind would support your violent and dishonest causes.
 

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Did anyone die on night two, Duh'v?

How much, in terms of money, is one life worth?

I am not even talking about the scumbags that died. I mean the life of an average, decent person.
PV of projected future earnings* averaged over est. years of life remaining.


*A Rocket Surgeons PV would be higher than a Fedex Driver's PV

No. I am not just talking about monetary value.

You have to look at a person as a whole. A FedEx driver could be worth a lot more than a "Rocket Surgeon" based on his overall contribution to society, much of which does not have monetary value.

You need to try to covert all forms of value to a monetary figure.

If you are unwilling to do this, I understand.
You can add or subtract any variables you desire it's your model that you have to sell to the Jury, but typically the discussion of worth refers to cash value.

Well wouldn't you agree that the protesters were at fault too and they largely brought their own deaths upon themselves?

So it's not about blaming Kyle for everything it's finding fault with em too.

Wouldn’t you agree?

No, these people dont care about rioters killing people and destroying communities.

Have you seen any of them bring up any if the innocent people murdered?

I havent seen you address it either. The way you are talking, youd likely think Secoriea Turners mother should also be put on probation cause it's kinda her fault too that rioters gunned her car down and murdered her 8 year old daughter.

In fact Lily actually blame the mother.

Dove answer me on this.

Did I not indicate that the rioters and protesters were at fault too?

Yes or no.

Yeah that's a problem because there is no "too". The fucking innocent people of Kenosha are NOT to blame for rioters attacking their community.

You not being "fair". You've made violent perps victims and innocent people perps equally.

I'd like to see how you've decided Kenoshians are just as guilty as the rioters. You know....the radicals who descended on THEIR community with guns and started burning it, destroying it, viciously beating and attacking locals? How is it their fault they were attacked? Because they exist?

People who get attacked are not just as guilty as the attackers. Stop it.

But you still havent answered my question.

Did I find the protesters/rioters at least partially at fault?

Yes or no?

Read my post. Not only did I answer this, I challenged it.

You are wrong. People being attacked do not own any blame. Its disturbing you think this.
 

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Did anyone die on night two, Duh'v?

How much, in terms of money, is one life worth?

I am not even talking about the scumbags that died. I mean the life of an average, decent person.
PV of projected future earnings* averaged over est. years of life remaining.


*A Rocket Surgeons PV would be higher than a Fedex Driver's PV

No. I am not just talking about monetary value.

You have to look at a person as a whole. A FedEx driver could be worth a lot more than a "Rocket Surgeon" based on his overall contribution to society, much of which does not have monetary value.

You need to try to covert all forms of value to a monetary figure.

If you are unwilling to do this, I understand.
You can add or subtract any variables you desire it's your model, but typically the discussion of worth refers to cash value.

If the scumbags didnt attack him, they wouldnt be dead.

They killed their damn selves. You can't understand that because you believe lies and wont stop your mindless partisan mewling.

When Admin said "Did anyone die on night two, Duh'v?" he was insinuating that what was lost was not as valuable as a life.

So I invited him to delve deeper into that topic. Apparently that is not going to happen.
 

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Did anyone die on night two, Duh'v?

How much, in terms of money, is one life worth?

I am not even talking about the scumbags that died. I mean the life of an average, decent person.
PV of projected future earnings* averaged over est. years of life remaining.


*A Rocket Surgeons PV would be higher than a Fedex Driver's PV

No. I am not just talking about monetary value.

You have to look at a person as a whole. A FedEx driver could be worth a lot more than a "Rocket Surgeon" based on his overall contribution to society, much of which does not have monetary value.

You need to try to covert all forms of value to a monetary figure.

If you are unwilling to do this, I understand.
You can add or subtract any variables you desire it's your model that you have to sell to the Jury, but typically the discussion of worth refers to cash value.

Well wouldn't you agree that the protesters were at fault too and they largely brought their own deaths upon themselves?

So it's not about blaming Kyle for everything it's finding fault with em too.

Wouldn’t you agree?

No, these people dont care about rioters killing people and destroying communities.

Have you seen any of them bring up any if the innocent people murdered?

I havent seen you address it either. The way you are talking, youd likely think Secoriea Turners mother should also be put on probation cause it's kinda her fault too that rioters gunned her car down and murdered her 8 year old daughter.

In fact Lily actually blame the mother.

Dove answer me on this.

Did I not indicate that the rioters and protesters were at fault too?

Yes or no.

Yeah that's a problem because there is no "too". The fucking innocent people of Kenosha are NOT to blame for rioters attacking their community.

You not being "fair". You've made violent perps victims and innocent people perps equally.

I'd like to see how you've decided Kenoshians are just as guilty as the rioters. You know....the radicals who descended on THEIR community with guns and started burning it, destroying it, viciously beating and attacking locals? How is it their fault they were attacked? Because they exist?

People who get attacked are not just as guilty as the attackers. Stop it.

But you still havent answered my question.

Did I find the protesters/rioters at least partially at fault?

Yes or no?

no Joe… people who went out to vandalize and riot did not deserve to die that night. Just like store owners should have been able to evacuate for their own safety and let their insurance handle the damages.

Our laws are not written to support them being killed by a civilian shooter either. But the kid went on trial for his crimes and he was white and got off. Trial is also a popularity contest with a jury. If Kyle would have waived his right to trial by jury and let the judge decide based on the facts of merit in this case, he would have served time.

But, it wasn’t in Kyle’s best interest to do so…. and he got off.
 

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JOe's a moron

Admin's a faggot

Lily's a pig

any questions?

Thing is Bigly I don't side with those rioters or protesters.

I thought they nullified their own cause by setting buildings on fire and attacking Kyle.

That's why I thought Kyle should have been exonerated of homicide.

Tho I think he should have been prosecuted for gun charges and placed in probation but not prison.

I think that would have been a fair and balanced judgement.

I somewhat agree with you that Rosenbaum brought his own death upon himself plus he was committing an act of terror by trying to blow up a gas station.
 

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In America we have the right to assemblage and opinions.

But not threatening, chasing, and attacking people just because you do not like them. That is illegal.

If you do that, the person being attacked has a legal right to defend himself.
 

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Did anyone die on night two, Duh'v?

How much, in terms of money, is one life worth?

I am not even talking about the scumbags that died. I mean the life of an average, decent person.
PV of projected future earnings* averaged over est. years of life remaining.


*A Rocket Surgeons PV would be higher than a Fedex Driver's PV

No. I am not just talking about monetary value.

You have to look at a person as a whole. A FedEx driver could be worth a lot more than a "Rocket Surgeon" based on his overall contribution to society, much of which does not have monetary value.

You need to try to covert all forms of value to a monetary figure.

If you are unwilling to do this, I understand.
You can add or subtract any variables you desire it's your model that you have to sell to the Jury, but typically the discussion of worth refers to cash value.

Well wouldn't you agree that the protesters were at fault too and they largely brought their own deaths upon themselves?

So it's not about blaming Kyle for everything it's finding fault with em too.

Wouldn’t you agree?

No, these people dont care about rioters killing people and destroying communities.

Have you seen any of them bring up any if the innocent people murdered?

I havent seen you address it either. The way you are talking, youd likely think Secoriea Turners mother should also be put on probation cause it's kinda her fault too that rioters gunned her car down and murdered her 8 year old daughter.

In fact Lily actually blame the mother.

Dove answer me on this.

Did I not indicate that the rioters and protesters were at fault too?

Yes or no.

Yeah that's a problem because there is no "too". The fucking innocent people of Kenosha are NOT to blame for rioters attacking their community.

You not being "fair". You've made violent perps victims and innocent people perps equally.

I'd like to see how you've decided Kenoshians are just as guilty as the rioters. You know....the radicals who descended on THEIR community with guns and started burning it, destroying it, viciously beating and attacking locals? How is it their fault they were attacked? Because they exist?

People who get attacked are not just as guilty as the attackers. Stop it.

But you still havent answered my question.

Did I find the protesters/rioters at least partially at fault?

Yes or no?

no Joe… people who went out to vandalize and riot did not deserve to die that night. Just like store owners should have been able to evacuate for their own safety and let their insurance handle the damages.

Our laws are not written to support them being killed by a civilian shooter either. But the kid went on trial for his crimes and he was white and got off. Trial is also a popularity contest with a jury. If Kyle would have waived his right to trial by jury and let the judge decide based on the facts of merit in this case, he would have served time.

But, it wasn’t in Kyle’s best interest to do so…. and he got off.

Well the question wasn't directed at you Murdock but thanks for answering it on Dovey behalf.
 

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If you're an American, and you've seen kids like this one wreak havoc in communities across the country, wouldn't you view him as a threat?

It look like The Leaker is going to make an argument that every rioter should be shot on sight because they are viewed as a threat!!

Hahahahahaha!!!!
 

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JOe's a moron

Admin's a faggot

Lily's a pig

any questions?

Thing is Bigly I don't side with those rioters or protesters.

I thought they nullified their own cause by setting buildings on fire and attacking Kyle.

That's why I thought Kyle should have been exonerated of homicide.

Tho I think he should have been prosecuted for gun charges and placed in probation but not prison.

I think that would have been a fair and balanced judgement.

I somewhat agree with you that Rosenbaum brought his own death upon himself plus he was committing an act of terror by trying to blow up a gas station.
Could you cite the arson and vandalism committed by the 3 victims that night?
 

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Did anyone die on night two, Duh'v?

How much, in terms of money, is one life worth?

I am not even talking about the scumbags that died. I mean the life of an average, decent person.
PV of projected future earnings* averaged over est. years of life remaining.


*A Rocket Surgeons PV would be higher than a Fedex Driver's PV

No. I am not just talking about monetary value.

You have to look at a person as a whole. A FedEx driver could be worth a lot more than a "Rocket Surgeon" based on his overall contribution to society, much of which does not have monetary value.

You need to try to covert all forms of value to a monetary figure.

If you are unwilling to do this, I understand.
You can add or subtract any variables you desire it's your model, but typically the discussion of worth refers to cash value.

If the scumbags didnt attack him, they wouldnt be dead.

They killed their damn selves. You can't understand that because you believe lies and wont stop your mindless partisan mewling.

When Admin said "Did anyone die on night two, Duh'v?" he was insinuating that what was lost was not as valuable as a life.

So I invited him to delve deeper into that topic. Apparently that is not going to happen.

You can't get any deeper or empathetic thoughts from him. If you havent noticed, they dont view human beings as human beings.

They simply dont think Kenosha was a important loss to anyone. They dont care about the local businesses that were decimated that are just over now. Or their historical buildings. They dont care peoples lives(including black people) were completely destroyed because of this. That people are suffering ptsd. That people were brutally beaten.

The media went very soft on these riots and barely covered the damage and these people are more than willing to go with it.

They project a lot. So they think I'm just saying this or that I'm dramatizing for partisan reasons. They really dont get it or understand exactly what was happening in these riots and they dont really care.

They've gone so deep with politics they dont see humanity at all anymore. In fact they label ANY opposition as "right wing" as dismiss it. They label people victimized as "right wing" and dismiss it. Kyle is "THE right" because he defended himself and now they want vengeance.

They are twisted sociopaths. So naturally they think the only thing of "value" lost was two scum bag criminals who attacked a local kid who was out there putting out fires. That's the only thing ADMIN values due to his partisan bias. The community is no loss to him....so no one should care about it. It's just a "right wing" talking point.

Cold hearted indifference to the suffering of others and narcissm.
 

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In America we have the right to assemblage and opinions.

But not threatening, chasing, and attacking people just because you do not like them. That is illegal.

If you do that, the person being attacked has a legal right to defend himself.
Kyle embedded himself into a crowd of amped up civilians waving a weapon around like a dildo, he presented an existential threat to anyone there that night.