Kyle Rittenhouse to go free!!!

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Well yes it is.

Because you side with absolute acquittal whereas I thought partial acquittal was more appropriate.

We were talking about the PLEASE ASS BOX ME! who got smoked. You clouded the issue of why he got smoked by mentioning his vandalism. I cleared it up and told you exactly why he got smoked, which had nothing to do with vandalism.

Your reply to my message had nothing to do with that.

Actually Prowler I thought the MSM was flawed by downplayING the antics of the protesters. While most of them were peaceful, some definitely were not.

I do/did find fault with people on the Left/ MSM letting the shit disturbers too easily off the hook.

As your hero Trump once said there is blame on both sides.

That I concur.

So just so we are clear.

The people of Kenosha.....who were just living their lives in their communities are a "side".

And when the other side shows up and starts attacking them.....its both their faults.

That's what you are saying?

I'm not talking about the media, no one is.

I'm talking about you and everyone else who've turned this incident into a political shitshow and can only see the incident from their own vantage point.

Actually I've tried to see it from both sides.

But instead of endorsing Kyle or his attackers I've sided with none of them.

I start with They're both GUILTY and now let's subtract from either side to see who has less marks against them

And believe it or not I've sided with your hero Kyle a bit more than the protesters but I still think he should have been held accountable for illegal weapons.

I'm sorry if that bothers you but I can't enorse Kyle Rittenhouse as being 100% guiltless or innocent.
 
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Dont get me wrong.....I'm SURE communities who've experienced left wing domestic terrorism riots are NOW with "the right".

But I dont think they know that before they get descended on.

WI has a democrat governor. So there are enough dem/prog voters there and I hope their heartbreaking and devastating experience with Kenosha riots and the maliscious prosecution of Kyle has swung some voters.

I wonder if that 70 year old business owner who was beaten and had his jaw broke voted for democrats.

Probably news to him that Kenosha was "the right" and that he is just as bad as the rioters because . ....reasons. Gotta be fair to both "sides".

Man people have become so partisan they dont even see humanity. All they see is "sides".
 

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Well yes it is.

Because you side with absolute acquittal whereas I thought partial acquittal was more appropriate.

We were talking about the PLEASE ASS BOX ME! who got smoked. You clouded the issue of why he got smoked by mentioning his vandalism. I cleared it up and told you exactly why he got smoked, which had nothing to do with vandalism.

Your reply to my message had nothing to do with that.

Actually Prowler I thought the MSM was flawed by downplayING the antics of the protesters. While most of them were peaceful, some definitely were not.

I do/did find fault with people on the Left/ MSM letting the shit disturbers too easily off the hook.

As your hero Trump once said there is blame on both sides.

That I concur.

So just so we are clear.

The people of Kenosha.....who were just living their lives in their communities are a "side".

And when the other side shows up and starts attacking them.....its both their faults.

That's what you are saying?

I'm not talking about the media, no one is.

I'm talking about you and everyone else who've turned this incident into a political shitshow and can only see the incident from their own vantage point.

Actually I've tried to see it from both sides.

But instead of endorsing Kyle or his attackers I've sided with none of them.

I start with They're both GUILTY and now let's subtract from either side to see who has less marks against them

And believe it or not I've sided with your hero Kyle a bit more than the protesters but I still think he should have been held accountable for illegal weapons.

I'm sorry if that bothers you but I can't enorde Kyle Rittenhouse as being 100% guiltless or innocent.

Absolutely none of us turned this into a political ANYTHING.

That's YOU people. The media. The shitbag prosecutor.

WE have all said this was an open and shut case of self defense. Nothing political about it. And YOU guys are calling Kyle "the right" and talking about "sides"

The fucking FACT is Kyle did NOT commit ANY crimes that night. This was the MOST obvious and open and shut case of self defense ever. It NEVER should have seen a trial. The ONLY reason it did was for left wing politics. That is a FACT.

Stupid retarded left winger ALSO win from the Kyle verdict. They are just too partisan retarded to realize it.

There are no "sides" Joe. A bunch of fucking thugs from other states showed up to Kenosha over some media LIES and proceeding to destroy a community of innocent people. People whose politics we dont even know.

It's not US that politicized it. And you wont move past politics enough to see this as it is. In fact you are saying an innocent kid should be convicted for SOMETHING .....even when he broke NO laws....because you have made him some right wing symbol and its gotta be about "sides".

NONE of us "conz!" (As we are labeled)would flip our stance on this for ANY reason. If this had been some left wing punk at a MAGA rally and he was attacked just like this and shot....we have have the SAME stance.

Law is law and rights are rights.....politics doesnt change that.

Just because it's the left that decided to organize mobs and launch attacks on innocent communities doesnt mean everyone who defends themselves and opposes it is "the right". You guys have gone so off the edge with left/right everything and everyone gets label "right wing" and everything is about "sides".
 

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Dont get me wrong.....I'm SURE communities who've experienced left wing domestic terrorism riots are NOW with "the right".

But I dont think they know that before they get descended on.

WI has a democrat governor. So there are enough dem/prog voters there and I hope their heartbreaking and devastating experience with Kenosha riots and the maliscious prosecution of Kyle has swung some voters.

I wonder if that 70 year old business owner who was beaten and had his jaw broke voted for democrats.

Probably news to him that Kenosha was "the right" and that he is just as bad as the rioters because . ....reasons. Gotta be fair to both "sides".

Man people have become so partisan they dont even see humanity. All they see is "sides".

Actually Dovey on several occasions I did point out the liability and in ffectivebeds of the governor to maintain law and order. Another factor going in favor Rittenhouse. If the Governor had just called in the National Guard much of this might never have happened.
 

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But you often don't substantiate your opinions with concrete examples Prowler.
With me and others you try to overpower us with insults and name calling.

If you had to debate many of us here in a formal debating forum with proper rules you would lose most of the time.
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Dont get me wrong.....I'm SURE communities who've experienced left wing domestic terrorism riots are NOW with "the right".

But I dont think they know that before they get descended on.

WI has a democrat governor. So there are enough dem/prog voters there and I hope their heartbreaking and devastating experience with Kenosha riots and the maliscious prosecution of Kyle has swung some voters.

I wonder if that 70 year old business owner who was beaten and had his jaw broke voted for democrats.

Probably news to him that Kenosha was "the right" and that he is just as bad as the rioters because . ....reasons. Gotta be fair to both "sides".

Man people have become so partisan they dont even see humanity. All they see is "sides".

Actually Dovey on several occasions I did point out the liability and in ffectivebeds of the governor to maintain law and order. Another factor going in favor Rittenhouse. If the Governor had just called in the National Guard much of this might never have happened.

You did.

But you are making a dire mistake labeling innocent communities attacked by mobs of radicals the "other side". These are innocent people who were living their life....who wanted no part of these riots. They dont want to be a "side".

These are victims of a violent mob and they have every damn RIGHT to defend themselves and their communities from violent attacks. That doesnt make them "the right".

You need to remove politics from this and see it for what it is. It's a peaceful small community with historic buildings. Local small business. Kenosha was like a smallish town that has homes right there. So these riots were right next to homes with fucking FAMILIES in them.

So then one day Jacob Blake's ex calls the police because he was there harrassing her and he had a warrant for sexually assaulting her. He fights police, waves a knife, leans into his car and gets shot 7 times and ends up alive but paralyzed.

The media lies about this intentionally KNOWING it will cause rioting. So they incite violent activists to travel to Kenosha for destructive riots.

These people have NOTHING to do with any of this. And now there are mobs of people burning down their community. Destroying those local small businesses(and the entire lives of those who owned them). Mobs who have guns and are walking around armed lighting fires, beating up innocent residents and businesses owners.

HOW are these people to blame for ANY of this? Do you have idea what that would be like? Your fucking home turned into a violent war ground? People trying to burn down occupied buildings? Destroying everything and threatening and brutalizing innocent residents(some of which who probably voted for that left wing pos governor)?

Because there is an ALARMING lack of basic empathy here.

So some of these innocent local residents feel the need to go out and protect some of the towns businesses. Then one of them gets targeted and attacked. He runs first even though legally...he didnt have to. He ONLY shoots at last resort when he exhausted every other option. He only shoots who is attacking him. And the third...Gross, he COULD have killed him, but he didnt. He disabled Gross instead. If Kyle WANTED to kill people? Gross would be dead and there would be MORE people shot than just the ones attacking.

Read this without the politics. Politics should change anything. Those residents had every right to be out there defending their businesses. They didnt do anything to deserve this violent attack. They were just living their lives just like you are right now and a mob attacked them.

So i dont know why or how anyone sees this as "sides". That's just the same as saying the girls in the Epstein/Maxwell case are just the "other side" and they should really at least get probation. It's not sides.....its not political sides what happened. It's a violent mob literally attacking innocent people who were in their own community.
 

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John Steinbeck

Kyle was not a vigilante.

But you consume propaganda media that has repeated this over....and over...and over. I saw the reporting on this. It's a repetitious load of propaganda and you are completely fine with an innocent person being imprisoned for self defense.

You guys call Kyle a vigilante and then turn around and try to sell the shit that Hubet and Gross were being heroic acting as vigilantes. Chasing and attacking someone who was running to police.

I guess this quote shoots down the bullshit that Hubet and Gross were okay to chase him and attack him because he was an "active shooter" because THAT is vigilante shit.
 
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Even Dore says it was self defense and the media are fucking liars.



I feel for the rare leftists who still have integrity and principles. I dont know how they can even claim being on the same side as you mindless fucking heartless savages. Minimizing nazi level violence and parroting propaganda.

Like I said that Lotus "corrected" falsely, you asshole parrot and believe LIES and wont hear FUCK all that contradicts whatever you want to think. Even Jimmy Dore calls you a cult....and he isnt "right wing".

He is saying exactly the SAME shit I was saying. You are slimy cultist partisans who cant do anything but lie and call everyone with principles "tIgHt wInG!!"

Like poor Kyle. He isnt even "right"....he is "THE right" because he defended himself.

You guys dont give a fuck what kind of violent fucking slime attacks innocent people so long as they dont have human and constitutional rights and cant fight back. You all need therapy and to get help.
 
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But you often don't substantiate your opinions with concrete examples Prowler.
With me and others you try to overpower us with insults and name calling.

If you had to debate many of us here in a formal debating forum with proper rules you would lose most of the time.
Watch this intentionally ironic reply fly over his noggin

Oh, suck my dick you fuckin' headcase.

Hahahaha!!!!

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Whoosh!!!!

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I was joking, you clueless fuckwit.

You said "With me and others you try to overpower us with insults and name calling." so I decided to do just that.

As a joke.

And, as I predicted, it flew over your head....
 

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Dont get me wrong.....I'm SURE communities who've experienced left wing domestic terrorism riots are NOW with "the right".

But I dont think they know that before they get descended on.

WI has a democrat governor. So there are enough dem/prog voters there and I hope their heartbreaking and devastating experience with Kenosha riots and the maliscious prosecution of Kyle has swung some voters.

I wonder if that 70 year old business owner who was beaten and had his jaw broke voted for democrats.

Probably news to him that Kenosha was "the right" and that he is just as bad as the rioters because . ....reasons. Gotta be fair to both "sides".

Man people have become so partisan they dont even see humanity. All they see is "sides".

Actually Dovey on several occasions I did point out the liability and in ffectivebeds of the governor to maintain law and order. Another factor going in favor Rittenhouse. If the Governor had just called in the National Guard much of this might never have happened.

You did.

But you are making a dire mistake labeling innocent communities attacked by mobs of radicals the "other side". These are innocent people who were living their life....who wanted no part of these riots. They dont want to be a "side".

These are victims of a violent mob and they have every damn RIGHT to defend themselves and their communities from violent attacks. That doesnt make them "the right".

You need to remove politics from this and see it for what it is. It's a peaceful small community with historic buildings. Local small business. Kenosha was like a smallish town that has homes right there. So these riots were right next to homes with fucking FAMILIES in them.

So then one day Jacob Blake's ex calls the police because he was there harrassing her and he had a warrant for sexually assaulting her. He fights police, waves a knife, leans into his car and gets shot 7 times and ends up alive but paralyzed.

The media lies about this intentionally KNOWING it will cause rioting. So they incite violent activists to travel to Kenosha for destructive riots.

These people have NOTHING to do with any of this. And now there are mobs of people burning down their community. Destroying those local small businesses(and the entire lives of those who owned them). Mobs who have guns and are walking around armed lighting fires, beating up innocent residents and businesses owners.

HOW are these people to blame for ANY of this? Do you have idea what that would be like? Your fucking home turned into a violent war ground? People trying to burn down occupied buildings? Destroying everything and threatening and brutalizing innocent residents(some of which who probably voted for that left wing pos governor)?

Because there is an ALARMING lack of basic empathy here.

So some of these innocent local residents feel the need to go out and protect some of the towns businesses. Then one of them gets targeted and attacked. He runs first even though legally...he didnt have to. He ONLY shoots at last resort when he exhausted every other option. He only shoots who is attacking him. And the third...Gross, he COULD have killed him, but he didnt. He disabled Gross instead. If Kyle WANTED to kill people? Gross would be dead and there would be MORE people shot than just the ones attacking.

Read this without the politics. Politics should change anything. Those residents had every right to be out there defending their businesses. They didnt do anything to deserve this violent attack. They were just living their lives just like you are right now and a mob attacked them.

So i dont know why or how anyone sees this as "sides". That's just the same as saying the girls in the Epstein/Maxwell case are just the "other side" and they should really at least get probation. It's not sides.....its not political sides what happened. It's a violent mob literally attacking innocent people who were in their own community.

Actually, if you read my prior comments, I did tip the balance in favor of Rittenhouse getting off on Murder/homicide charges because of the lack of law enforcement and destructive actions of the rioters.

I repeat myself, but I felt the judge erred severely by allowing an MR 15 rifle to be classified as a 'long gun', when that classification was intended as hunting rifle not an assault weapon. That was quite obviously aan intentional misinterpretiaton of the law to get the Judge's boy/'son' Kyle off on all charges. And for that reason I call that a perverison of justice.

so to summarize, while I could see the murder charges against Kyle being thrown out or reduced, I don't believe the gun charges should have been let go.

Obviously you don't like that and we don't agree, but that' just the way I see it.

Innocent/not guilty on some charges but guilty on others.

Plus there should an naitonal inquiry into this incident and how future ones can be avoided at all costs if possible. I'm really surprised that one hasn't bee called by your Congress yet.

If this happened in Canada, or the UK or New Zealand or Australia, our legislators would be on it real quick to see how we could avoid such future catastrophes. And make no mistake about it, no matter who is at fault, the Kenosha incident was a catastrophe. it's not the face that a great nation like the United States should be proud of or show to the rest of the world.

It's evident that the United States needs better laws and a national gun strategy to improve safety and save lives.

ie - Canada and New Zealand have both banned the AR15, the same gun that Kyle used to kill his attackers after dozens of their citizens were gunned down by the same weapon.
 
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Dont get me wrong.....I'm SURE communities who've experienced left wing domestic terrorism riots are NOW with "the right".

But I dont think they know that before they get descended on.

WI has a democrat governor. So there are enough dem/prog voters there and I hope their heartbreaking and devastating experience with Kenosha riots and the maliscious prosecution of Kyle has swung some voters.

I wonder if that 70 year old business owner who was beaten and had his jaw broke voted for democrats.

Probably news to him that Kenosha was "the right" and that he is just as bad as the rioters because . ....reasons. Gotta be fair to both "sides".

Man people have become so partisan they dont even see humanity. All they see is "sides".

Actually Dovey on several occasions I did point out the liability and in ffectivebeds of the governor to maintain law and order. Another factor going in favor Rittenhouse. If the Governor had just called in the National Guard much of this might never have happened.

You did.

But you are making a dire mistake labeling innocent communities attacked by mobs of radicals the "other side". These are innocent people who were living their life....who wanted no part of these riots. They dont want to be a "side".

These are victims of a violent mob and they have every damn RIGHT to defend themselves and their communities from violent attacks. That doesnt make them "the right".

You need to remove politics from this and see it for what it is. It's a peaceful small community with historic buildings. Local small business. Kenosha was like a smallish town that has homes right there. So these riots were right next to homes with fucking FAMILIES in them.

So then one day Jacob Blake's ex calls the police because he was there harrassing her and he had a warrant for sexually assaulting her. He fights police, waves a knife, leans into his car and gets shot 7 times and ends up alive but paralyzed.

The media lies about this intentionally KNOWING it will cause rioting. So they incite violent activists to travel to Kenosha for destructive riots.

These people have NOTHING to do with any of this. And now there are mobs of people burning down their community. Destroying those local small businesses(and the entire lives of those who owned them). Mobs who have guns and are walking around armed lighting fires, beating up innocent residents and businesses owners.

HOW are these people to blame for ANY of this? Do you have idea what that would be like? Your fucking home turned into a violent war ground? People trying to burn down occupied buildings? Destroying everything and threatening and brutalizing innocent residents(some of which who probably voted for that left wing pos governor)?

Because there is an ALARMING lack of basic empathy here.

So some of these innocent local residents feel the need to go out and protect some of the towns businesses. Then one of them gets targeted and attacked. He runs first even though legally...he didnt have to. He ONLY shoots at last resort when he exhausted every other option. He only shoots who is attacking him. And the third...Gross, he COULD have killed him, but he didnt. He disabled Gross instead. If Kyle WANTED to kill people? Gross would be dead and there would be MORE people shot than just the ones attacking.

Read this without the politics. Politics should change anything. Those residents had every right to be out there defending their businesses. They didnt do anything to deserve this violent attack. They were just living their lives just like you are right now and a mob attacked them.

So i dont know why or how anyone sees this as "sides". That's just the same as saying the girls in the Epstein/Maxwell case are just the "other side" and they should really at least get probation. It's not sides.....its not political sides what happened. It's a violent mob literally attacking innocent people who were in their own community.

Actually, if you read my prior comments, I did tip the balance in favor of Rittenhouse getting off on Murder/homicide charges because of the lack of law enforcement and destructive actions of the rioters.

I repeat myself, I felt the judge erred severely by allowing an MR 15 rifle to be classified as a 'long gun', when that classification was intended as hunting rifle not an assault weapon. That was quite obviously a deliberate attempt to misinterpret the law to get the Judge's boy/'son' Kyle off on all charges. And for that reason I call that a perverison of justice.

so to summarize, while I could see the murder charges against Kyle being thrown out or reduced, I don't believe the gun charges should have been let go.

Obviously you don't like that and we don't agree, but that' just the way I see it.

Innocent/not guilty on some charges but guilty on others.

Plus there should an inquiry into this incident and how future ones can be avoided at all costs if possible.

It's evident that the United States needs better laws and a national gun strategy to improve safety and save lives.

ie - Canada and New Zealand have both banned the MR15, the same gun that Kyle used to kill his attackers.

If your hat didnt tip on the OBJECTIVE FACT Kyle did NOT break any laws and this should not have even been a court case you are just seeing politics.

Ffs Joe you literally turned innocent people of Kenosha into the "other side". You see SIDES. I see fuckong criminals attacking innocent people like a normal, objective person.

Peoplr like Lotus and Admin are going to fight to destroy our fucking rights so long as the establishment media tells them "only right wing wing nuts want civil constitutional rights! That's fascists!!" And you guys be like "fuck yes! Take my rights! Build gulags! I wont fight back! Put INNOCENT people in prison daddy gov!!!"

Dont pretend you saw this objectively. You saw some fucked up right/left battle and completely lost touch with humanity and foundational rights.

The Rittenhouse case shows how BAD it is and what a dangerous place we are in as a country because of mindless hyper partisan masses who put ideology over EVERYTHING else.

You know people USED to see violence as a CRIME and self defense as a right and now that's a wing nut position and you are just "partisan" if you think mobs attacking communities, beating and killing innocent people is fucking wrong and insane and that people have a right to protect themselves.

I'm fucking DISGUSTED that grown fucking adults are struggling with this.

I HOPE you can get right on this somehow because you are so wrong it's scary. Thank GOD our RIGHTS are not decided by feelings and opinions. The JUDGE followed the LAW. He was in LEGAL possession according to the law. You cannot convict someone who followed the law. Good fucking gawd. And it was an AR 15.
 
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I repeat myself, I felt the judge erred severely by allowing an MR 15 rifle to be classified as a 'long gun', when that classification was intended as hunting rifle not an assault weapon. That was quite obviously a deliberate attempt to misinterpret the law to get the Judge's boy/'son' Kyle off on all charges. And for that reason I call that a perverison of justice.
Guess I'll keep posting this link until you look at it :/
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You know real leftists and the rest of us need to temporarily to get rid of these establishment shill shitlibs(as dore calls them) so we can get rid of this fucking cancer that is DIRECTLY threatening our rights and then when we purge the machine we can go back to arguing about governments roll in healthcare.
 

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sigh... I think I'm gonna put Joe on ignore with Blandscape. He repeats himself, posting the same shit OVER AND OVER again.. He is given a response/answers.. IGNORES THEM and then post like he's never received a response HAHA. Dovey must have the patience of a saint... fuck that.. I don't even respond and I'm tired of reading the same ole shit from 'em
 

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sigh... I think I'm gonna put Joe on ignore with Blandscape. He repeats himself, posting the same shit OVER AND OVER again.. He is given a response/answers.. IGNORES THEM and then post like he's never received a response HAHA. Dovey must have the patience of a saint... fuck that.. I don't even respond and I'm tired of reading the same ole shit from 'em

Raven it's not that I'm patient. I'm experiencing several layers of shock and grief and I havent fully accepted that people can think like this.

Its just....fucking terrifying.

You see all this shit right? This is why the country is fucked and we will likely HAVE to have a civil war if we DONT want to be subjugated by a psychotic fascist regime in America.

These people who vote against our Constitution if the establishment succeeds to fully convince them its racist.
 

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Oh look.. the drunken lawyer is here.. YAY!

The lying sociopath who thinks the riots and deaths from them are inevitable and we should have our human and constitutional rights suspended?

The one so fucking stupid she thinks a precedent was set by LAW being upheld?

Gross. Glad my ignore feature works.
 

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I repeat myself, I felt the judge erred severely by allowing an MR 15 rifle to be classified as a 'long gun', when that classification was intended as hunting rifle not an assault weapon. That was quite obviously a deliberate attempt to misinterpret the law to get the Judge's boy/'son' Kyle off on all charges. And for that reason I call that a perverison of justice.
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And why are there so many mass shootings with the AR 15 and why do so many people die because of them...around the world?

Not just the USA, but Canada, New Zealand...Australia too?

Here's what an AR15 did in Las Vegas.

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With the AR-15, it's not just the speed of the bullet, but also how quickly hundreds of bullets can be fired. The AR-15 is not a fully automatic machine gun. It fires only one round with each pull of the trigger. But in Las Vegas, it sounded like a machine gun.​
A special add-on device called a bump stock allowed the killer to pull the trigger rapidly enough to kill 58 and wwound 489. In other mass killings the AR-15 was fired without a bump stock, but even then, it can fire about 60 rounds a minute. Ammunition magazines that hold up to 100 rounds can be changed in about five seconds.​
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Maddy Wilford: I remember hearing the gunshots go off and being so nervous and scared and all of the sudden I felt something hit me.​
Scott Pelley: You'd been shot how many times?​
Maddy Wilford: Four times.​
Scott Pelley: How many surgeries?
Maddy Wilford: Three. For my arm, my stomach and my ribs and lung.​
 
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sigh... I think I'm gonna put Joe on ignore with Blandscape. He repeats himself, posting the same shit OVER AND OVER again.. He is given a response/answers.. IGNORES THEM and then post like he's never received a response HAHA. Dovey must have the patience of a saint... fuck that.. I don't even respond and I'm tired of reading the same ole shit from 'em

Joe, more and more people are sending you the same message.

It might be time for a little self-reflection.