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Joe's a fucking moron
why any of you give him any legitimacy whatsoever is beyond me
why any of you give him any legitimacy whatsoever is beyond me
Dont get me wrong.....I'm SURE communities who've experienced left wing domestic terrorism riots are NOW with "the right".
But I dont think they know that before they get descended on.
WI has a democrat governor. So there are enough dem/prog voters there and I hope their heartbreaking and devastating experience with Kenosha riots and the maliscious prosecution of Kyle has swung some voters.
I wonder if that 70 year old business owner who was beaten and had his jaw broke voted for democrats.
Probably news to him that Kenosha was "the right" and that he is just as bad as the rioters because . ....reasons. Gotta be fair to both "sides".
Man people have become so partisan they dont even see humanity. All they see is "sides".
Actually Dovey on several occasions I did point out the liability and in ffectivebeds of the governor to maintain law and order. Another factor going in favor Rittenhouse. If the Governor had just called in the National Guard much of this might never have happened.
You did.
But you are making a dire mistake labeling innocent communities attacked by mobs of radicals the "other side". These are innocent people who were living their life....who wanted no part of these riots. They dont want to be a "side".
These are victims of a violent mob and they have every damn RIGHT to defend themselves and their communities from violent attacks. That doesnt make them "the right".
You need to remove politics from this and see it for what it is. It's a peaceful small community with historic buildings. Local small business. Kenosha was like a smallish town that has homes right there. So these riots were right next to homes with fucking FAMILIES in them.
So then one day Jacob Blake's ex calls the police because he was there harrassing her and he had a warrant for sexually assaulting her. He fights police, waves a knife, leans into his car and gets shot 7 times and ends up alive but paralyzed.
The media lies about this intentionally KNOWING it will cause rioting. So they incite violent activists to travel to Kenosha for destructive riots.
These people have NOTHING to do with any of this. And now there are mobs of people burning down their community. Destroying those local small businesses(and the entire lives of those who owned them). Mobs who have guns and are walking around armed lighting fires, beating up innocent residents and businesses owners.
HOW are these people to blame for ANY of this? Do you have idea what that would be like? Your fucking home turned into a violent war ground? People trying to burn down occupied buildings? Destroying everything and threatening and brutalizing innocent residents(some of which who probably voted for that left wing pos governor)?
Because there is an ALARMING lack of basic empathy here.
So some of these innocent local residents feel the need to go out and protect some of the towns businesses. Then one of them gets targeted and attacked. He runs first even though legally...he didnt have to. He ONLY shoots at last resort when he exhausted every other option. He only shoots who is attacking him. And the third...Gross, he COULD have killed him, but he didnt. He disabled Gross instead. If Kyle WANTED to kill people? Gross would be dead and there would be MORE people shot than just the ones attacking.
Read this without the politics. Politics should change anything. Those residents had every right to be out there defending their businesses. They didnt do anything to deserve this violent attack. They were just living their lives just like you are right now and a mob attacked them.
So i dont know why or how anyone sees this as "sides". That's just the same as saying the girls in the Epstein/Maxwell case are just the "other side" and they should really at least get probation. It's not sides.....its not political sides what happened. It's a violent mob literally attacking innocent people who were in their own community.
Actually, if you read my prior comments, I did tip the balance in favor of Rittenhouse getting off on Murder/homicide charges because of the lack of law enforcement and destructive actions of the rioters.
I repeat myself, I felt the judge erred severely by allowing an MR 15 rifle to be classified as a 'long gun', when that classification was intended as hunting rifle not an assault weapon. That was quite obviously a deliberate attempt to misinterpret the law to get the Judge's boy/'son' Kyle off on all charges. And for that reason I call that a perverison of justice.
so to summarize, while I could see the murder charges against Kyle being thrown out or reduced, I don't believe the gun charges should have been let go.
Obviously you don't like that and we don't agree, but that' just the way I see it.
Innocent/not guilty on some charges but guilty on others.
Plus there should an inquiry into this incident and how future ones can be avoided at all costs if possible.
It's evident that the United States needs better laws and a national gun strategy to improve safety and save lives.
ie - Canada and New Zealand have both banned the MR15, the same gun that Kyle used to kill his attackers.
If your hat didnt tip on the OBJECTIVE FACT Kyle did NOT break any laws and this should not have even been a court case you are just seeing politics.
Ffs Joe you literally turned innocent people of Kenosha into the "other side". You see SIDES. I see fuckong criminals attacking innocent people like a normal, objective person.
Peoplr like Lotus and Admin are going to fight to destroy our fucking rights so long as the establishment media tells them "only right wing wing nuts want civil constitutional rights! That's fascists!!" And you guys be like "fuck yes! Take my rights! Build gulags! I wont fight back! Put INNOCENT people in prison daddy gov!!!"
Dont pretend you saw this objectively. You saw some fucked up right/left battle and completely lost touch with humanity and foundational rights.
The Rittenhouse case shows how BAD it is and what a dangerous place we are in as a country because of mindless hyper partisan masses who put ideology over EVERYTHING else.
You know people USED to see violence as a CRIME and self defense as a right and now that's a wing nut position and you are just "partisan" if you think mobs attacking communities, beating and killing innocent people is fucking wrong and insane and that people have a right to protect themselves.
I'm fucking DISGUSTED that grown fucking adults are struggling with this.
I HOPE you can get right on this somehow because you are so wrong it's scary. Thank GOD our RIGHTS are not decided by feelings and opinions. The JUDGE followed the LAW. He was in LEGAL possession according to the law. You cannot convict someone who followed the law. Good fucking gawd. And it was an AR 15.
Guess I'll keep posting this link until you look at it :/I repeat myself, I felt the judge erred severely by allowing an MR 15 rifle to be classified as a 'long gun', when that classification was intended as hunting rifle not an assault weapon. That was quite obviously a deliberate attempt to misinterpret the law to get the Judge's boy/'son' Kyle off on all charges. And for that reason I call that a perverison of justice.
And why are there so many mass shootings with the AR 15 and why do so many people die because of them...around the world?
Not just the USA, but Canada, New Zealand...Australia too?
Here's what an AR15 did in Las Vegas.
With the AR-15, it's not just the speed of the bullet, but also how quickly hundreds of bullets can be fired. The AR-15 is not a fully automatic machine gun. It fires only one round with each pull of the trigger. But in Las Vegas, it sounded like a machine gun.A special add-on device called a bump stock allowed the killer to pull the trigger rapidly enough to kill 58 and wwound 489. In other mass killings the AR-15 was fired without a bump stock, but even then, it can fire about 60 rounds a minute. Ammunition magazines that hold up to 100 rounds can be changed in about five seconds.Maddy Wilford: I remember hearing the gunshots go off and being so nervous and scared and all of the sudden I felt something hit me.Scott Pelley: You'd been shot how many times?Maddy Wilford: Four times.Scott Pelley: How many surgeries?Maddy Wilford: Three. For my arm, my stomach and my ribs and lung.
The trial commences.
Judge Joe presides.
Several times throughout the trial, Judge Joe suspends the proceedings.
"Just one second. I would like to change another law that I do not agree with."
nut I felt the judge erred severely by allowing an MR 15 rifle
Wait!!!!
Hold the phone!!!!
Did Kyle really use one of these, Joe?
Dont get me wrong.....I'm SURE communities who've experienced left wing domestic terrorism riots are NOW with "the right".
But I dont think they know that before they get descended on.
WI has a democrat governor. So there are enough dem/prog voters there and I hope their heartbreaking and devastating experience with Kenosha riots and the maliscious prosecution of Kyle has swung some voters.
I wonder if that 70 year old business owner who was beaten and had his jaw broke voted for democrats.
Probably news to him that Kenosha was "the right" and that he is just as bad as the rioters because . ....reasons. Gotta be fair to both "sides".
Man people have become so partisan they dont even see humanity. All they see is "sides".
Actually Dovey on several occasions I did point out the liability and in ffectivebeds of the governor to maintain law and order. Another factor going in favor Rittenhouse. If the Governor had just called in the National Guard much of this might never have happened.
You did.
But you are making a dire mistake labeling innocent communities attacked by mobs of radicals the "other side". These are innocent people who were living their life....who wanted no part of these riots. They dont want to be a "side".
These are victims of a violent mob and they have every damn RIGHT to defend themselves and their communities from violent attacks. That doesnt make them "the right".
You need to remove politics from this and see it for what it is. It's a peaceful small community with historic buildings. Local small business. Kenosha was like a smallish town that has homes right there. So these riots were right next to homes with fucking FAMILIES in them.
So then one day Jacob Blake's ex calls the police because he was there harrassing her and he had a warrant for sexually assaulting her. He fights police, waves a knife, leans into his car and gets shot 7 times and ends up alive but paralyzed.
The media lies about this intentionally KNOWING it will cause rioting. So they incite violent activists to travel to Kenosha for destructive riots.
These people have NOTHING to do with any of this. And now there are mobs of people burning down their community. Destroying those local small businesses(and the entire lives of those who owned them). Mobs who have guns and are walking around armed lighting fires, beating up innocent residents and businesses owners.
HOW are these people to blame for ANY of this? Do you have idea what that would be like? Your fucking home turned into a violent war ground? People trying to burn down occupied buildings? Destroying everything and threatening and brutalizing innocent residents(some of which who probably voted for that left wing pos governor)?
Because there is an ALARMING lack of basic empathy here.
So some of these innocent local residents feel the need to go out and protect some of the towns businesses. Then one of them gets targeted and attacked. He runs first even though legally...he didnt have to. He ONLY shoots at last resort when he exhausted every other option. He only shoots who is attacking him. And the third...Gross, he COULD have killed him, but he didnt. He disabled Gross instead. If Kyle WANTED to kill people? Gross would be dead and there would be MORE people shot than just the ones attacking.
Read this without the politics. Politics should change anything. Those residents had every right to be out there defending their businesses. They didnt do anything to deserve this violent attack. They were just living their lives just like you are right now and a mob attacked them.
So i dont know why or how anyone sees this as "sides". That's just the same as saying the girls in the Epstein/Maxwell case are just the "other side" and they should really at least get probation. It's not sides.....its not political sides what happened. It's a violent mob literally attacking innocent people who were in their own community.
Actually, if you read my prior comments, I did tip the balance in favor of Rittenhouse getting off on Murder/homicide charges because of the lack of law enforcement and destructive actions of the rioters.
I repeat myself, I felt the judge erred severely by allowing an MR 15 rifle to be classified as a 'long gun', when that classification was intended as hunting rifle not an assault weapon. That was quite obviously a deliberate attempt to misinterpret the law to get the Judge's boy/'son' Kyle off on all charges. And for that reason I call that a perverison of justice.
so to summarize, while I could see the murder charges against Kyle being thrown out or reduced, I don't believe the gun charges should have been let go.
Obviously you don't like that and we don't agree, but that' just the way I see it.
Innocent/not guilty on some charges but guilty on others.
Plus there should an inquiry into this incident and how future ones can be avoided at all costs if possible.
It's evident that the United States needs better laws and a national gun strategy to improve safety and save lives.
ie - Canada and New Zealand have both banned the MR15, the same gun that Kyle used to kill his attackers.
If your hat didnt tip on the OBJECTIVE FACT Kyle did NOT break any laws and this should not have even been a court case you are just seeing politics.
Ffs Joe you literally turned innocent people of Kenosha into the "other side". You see SIDES. I see fuckong criminals attacking innocent people like a normal, objective person.
Peoplr like Lotus and Admin are going to fight to destroy our fucking rights so long as the establishment media tells them "only right wing wing nuts want civil constitutional rights! That's fascists!!" And you guys be like "fuck yes! Take my rights! Build gulags! I wont fight back! Put INNOCENT people in prison daddy gov!!!"
Dont pretend you saw this objectively. You saw some fucked up right/left battle and completely lost touch with humanity and foundational rights.
The Rittenhouse case shows how BAD it is and what a dangerous place we are in as a country because of mindless hyper partisan masses who put ideology over EVERYTHING else.
You know people USED to see violence as a CRIME and self defense as a right and now that's a wing nut position and you are just "partisan" if you think mobs attacking communities, beating and killing innocent people is fucking wrong and insane and that people have a right to protect themselves.
I'm fucking DISGUSTED that grown fucking adults are struggling with this.
I HOPE you can get right on this somehow because you are so wrong it's scary. Thank GOD our RIGHTS are not decided by feelings and opinions. The JUDGE followed the LAW. He was in LEGAL possession according to the law. You cannot convict someone who followed the law. Good fucking gawd. And it was an AR 15.
If what you say is true, then your country is past the point of No Return, Dovey.
While other nations have outright banned the AR 15 and other assault weapons, the USA retains them like a staple part of a standard diet.
You people jes' caint give them up. Uh uh.
In the meantime ever more people will die...because of assault weapons like the AR 15.
Speaking of domestic terrorists…
white supremacy will continue in this country until whites see it as an issue they need to deal with instead of a black issue they need to empathize with.
Meanwhile Kenosha is pretty quiet despite all the post verdict braying
I suspect it's because the scum on the left fucked around and found out
and that's exactly how you take a bully out
Yep, in shitholes like Portland that normal people don't give the slightest fuck aboutMeanwhile Kenosha is pretty quiet despite all the post verdict braying
I suspect it's because the scum on the left fucked around and found out
and that's exactly how you take a bully out
They are rioting in their own shit holes where they belong.
Speaking of domestic terrorists…
white supremacy will continue in this country until whites see it as an issue they need to deal with instead of a black issue they need to empathize with.
@Dove Despite all the negativity surrounding this case, justice was served. Like any other high-profile case.. there will be backlash from the losing side.. That will pass and I am hopeful that this scenario will never happen again. I'm sure next time trained law enforcement with be in place and precautions will be taken. It's a lesson learned from BOTH sides. I was expecting a city to burn down somewhere because of the verdict and it didn't happen.. I may be too optimistic, but so far so good.. Americans should NEVER be your enemy no matter what political view you have.. I'm not going to let this case get to me and make me dislike my fellow American brothers and sisters.. sigh.
Did you see where Lily said the SUV mowing down innoecent children in wisconsin was "Instant Karma" for Wisconsin ?@Dove Despite all the negativity surrounding this case, justice was served. Like any other high-profile case.. there will be backlash from the losing side.. That will pass and I am hopeful that this scenario will never happen again. I'm sure next time trained law enforcement will be in place and precautions will be taken. It's a lesson learned from BOTH sides. I was expecting a city to burn down somewhere because of the verdict and it didn't happen.. I may be too optimistic, but so far so good.. Americans should NEVER be your enemy no matter what political view you have.. I'm not going to let this case get to me and make me dislike my fellow American brothers and sisters.. sigh.
Speaking of domestic terrorists…
white supremacy will continue in this country until whites see it as an issue they need to deal with instead of a black issue they need to empathize with.
"white supremacy"
A.K.A. The Boogieman!!!
nut I felt the judge erred severely by allowing an MR 15 rifle
Wait!!!!
Hold the phone!!!!
Did Kyle really use one of these, Joe?
Did Kyle Rittenhouse shoot at least 2 people to death with an AR 15, Prowler?
Or was this just a Hollywood movie or a dream?
Oh well better go back ta sleep dream some more!
Did you see where Lily said the SUV mowing down innoecent children in wisconsin was "Instant Karma" for Wisconsin ?@Dove Despite all the negativity surrounding this case, justice was served. Like any other high-profile case.. there will be backlash from the losing side.. That will pass and I am hopeful that this scenario will never happen again. I'm sure next time trained law enforcement will be in place and precautions will be taken. It's a lesson learned from BOTH sides. I was expecting a city to burn down somewhere because of the verdict and it didn't happen.. I may be too optimistic, but so far so good.. Americans should NEVER be your enemy no matter what political view you have.. I'm not going to let this case get to me and make me dislike my fellow American brothers and sisters.. sigh.
@Dove Despite all the negativity surrounding this case, justice was served. Like any other high-profile case.. there will be backlash from the losing side.. That will pass and I am hopeful that this scenario will never happen again. I'm sure next time trained law enforcement with be in place and precautions will be taken. It's a lesson learned from BOTH sides. I was expecting a city to burn down somewhere because of the verdict and it didn't happen.. I may be too optimistic, but so far so good.. Americans should NEVER be your enemy no matter what political view you have.. I'm not going to let this case get to me and make me dislike my fellow American brothers and sisters.. sigh.
@Dove Despite all the negativity surrounding this case, justice was served. Like any other high-profile case.. there will be backlash from the losing side.. That will pass and I am hopeful that this scenario will never happen again. I'm sure next time trained law enforcement with be in place and precautions will be taken. It's a lesson learned from BOTH sides. I was expecting a city to burn down somewhere because of the verdict and it didn't happen.. I may be too optimistic, but so far so good.. Americans should NEVER be your enemy no matter what political view you have.. I'm not going to let this case get to me and make me dislike my fellow American brothers and sisters.. sigh.
Yes...and now everyone young punk with a gun will plead self Defense.
Even if they are at fault.
ie...
"I'm innocent! Even tho I was accused of robbing the store, the storekeeper pulled out a gun from behind the counter so I shot him! And it's my right under the constitution to DEFEND myself. I wasn't robbing the store tho."
and what do you think might happen in such a scenario like that one? suppose it s a Black dude who walks into a Korean grocery. And as these 2 have a nasty reputation for getting along, the Black could claim that a crazed Korean store owner pulled the gun on him first without provocaiton so he had to kill him.
And you know what? The jury just might acquit the Black dude.
Bad laws poor judgeents have consequences.
The exact quote is as followsDid you see where Lily said the SUV mowing down innoecent children in wisconsin was "Instant Karma" for Wisconsin ?@Dove Despite all the negativity surrounding this case, justice was served. Like any other high-profile case.. there will be backlash from the losing side.. That will pass and I am hopeful that this scenario will never happen again. I'm sure next time trained law enforcement will be in place and precautions will be taken. It's a lesson learned from BOTH sides. I was expecting a city to burn down somewhere because of the verdict and it didn't happen.. I may be too optimistic, but so far so good.. Americans should NEVER be your enemy no matter what political view you have.. I'm not going to let this case get to me and make me dislike my fellow American brothers and sisters.. sigh.
I have her on ignore because I'm not going to read hateful garbage from a sociopathic cunt like either of them.
They are vile and offer nothing.
I'm really not surprised by that comment though. It figures. That's what full of hatred looks like.
I think many 'liberals' just wanted to see a middle of the road verdict/ solution which protected everyone including Kyle.
It could have been possible to acquit Rittenhouse of these murders while still limiting his access to firearms thereafter & discouraging vigilantism and street violence. Putting him on probation so he wouldn't get into trouble again nor encourage other youth to commit violence.
Trouble with these kind of trials is it just either-or & becomes injected with political rhetoric as opposed to common sense.
As I wrote in a previous thread I kinda figger ed this would happen before the verdict was handed down. That it would become a shit show between the American left and right as opposed to a verdict for the Greater good.
The exact quote is as followsDid you see where Lily said the SUV mowing down innoecent children in wisconsin was "Instant Karma" for Wisconsin ?@Dove Despite all the negativity surrounding this case, justice was served. Like any other high-profile case.. there will be backlash from the losing side.. That will pass and I am hopeful that this scenario will never happen again. I'm sure next time trained law enforcement will be in place and precautions will be taken. It's a lesson learned from BOTH sides. I was expecting a city to burn down somewhere because of the verdict and it didn't happen.. I may be too optimistic, but so far so good.. Americans should NEVER be your enemy no matter what political view you have.. I'm not going to let this case get to me and make me dislike my fellow American brothers and sisters.. sigh.
I have her on ignore because I'm not going to read hateful garbage from a sociopathic cunt like either of them.
They are vile and offer nothing.
I'm really not surprised by that comment though. It figures. That's what full of hatred looks like.
No information out yet. Kinda instant karma for Wisconsin...
what an ugly fat miserable and loathsome piece of dog shit. Enraged that pedophiles died and considers it Karma that children should pay for it in blood
I've seen the lowest of the low coming out of that animal now
I just don't have that kind of hatred in my soul :'( Maybe I'm kidding myself about the state of our country.. dunno? :'( I'm hoping we are better than this :'(
I knew from day one there could be no civility with these animalsI just don't have that kind of hatred in my soul :'( Maybe I'm kidding myself about the state of our country.. dunno? :'( I'm hoping we are better than this :'(
Raven you are under estimating the hatred these people have towards US. And the country. That's all.
My optimism is gone. The only real solution is a national divorce.
Loom what they are okay with. They HATE regular Americans.
I knew from day one there could be no civility with these animalsI just don't have that kind of hatred in my soul :'( Maybe I'm kidding myself about the state of our country.. dunno? :'( I'm hoping we are better than this :'(
Raven you are under estimating the hatred these people have towards US. And the country. That's all.
My optimism is gone. The only real solution is a national divorce.
Loom what they are okay with. They HATE regular Americans.