Kyle Rittenhouse to go free!!!

[Dove]

I think what liberals and even traditional conservatives want or don't want is validation of someone's extreme ideologies at ANY cost. such as flooding the streets with AR15s which have proven track record of efficiently massacring hundreds of people around the globe in just a few minutes. That's a war weapon which is more sutiable for war, law enforcement and combat, not civilian use.

Civilian weapons such as sports rifles are traditionally used for hunting outside of city limits in the bush/wildenress, not mowing down people within city limits.

We have the 2A here. So it's not that kind of country.

It's literally the rights we have as Americans. The AR-15 probably the least amount of gun related deaths.....hand guns have the most.

 

[Joe]

I really cant fucking believe rioting mobs are being validated by anyone as some legit "side".

And that people are defending them and demanding that innocent shouldnt have any rights to self defense if these shit bags go after them.

I really struggle with that. We have actual homegrown domestic terrorists and these leftards are validating them even as they plow down children. Destroy communities. Beat. Murder. Rape innocent people.

Unreal.

We need a civil war or national divorce.

And have you thought 16 year olds carryomg around a semiautomatic AR15 that this will not endanger the public ?

I think these types were validated during the Kenosha trial.

So the American Right appears to have gotten theirs during that trial.

Validation.

Joe.....you have seen a video of my daughter shooting a gun.

Joe you are not worried about public safety. That's what IM worried about. I'm VERY concerned about mobs descending on communities, burning, looting, destroying and beating, murdering and raping innocent people.

The riots are a big enough public safety threat where EVERY citizen there should have been armed.

If Kyle didnt have that gun he would be DEAD or severely beaten. Just like MANY other people.

These rioters had guns... many illegally.

How can you possibly see all that, and think it's the kid who demonstrated excellent control of his fire arm, a skilled more responsible handler than Gross....who is a threat to public safety?

Make it make sense.

Actually, I'm not that radical, Dovey.

And I'll post a video by your very own Colin Powell, a lifelong Republican and decorated (wounded as well) Military Veteran who saw combat in Vietnam.

And he advocated gun control in your country.

He was a Conservative who supported the 2nd ammendment.

an he stated the gun problem in your country was out of control.

While he was alive he was alarmed by seeing big heavy guns being carried around in the streets.

That's a conservative and an American, not me.

He said the Conservative wing or gunowners have to make compromises to make the gun laws work.

That's your own highly decorated countryman with combat experience.

 

[The Prowler]

What Say you Judge 'Turn 'em loose, Bruce?"

Yes, if they shoot someone in self defense, then they start running towards the police, and you chase them for hundreds of feet along with a mob of people, and you grab at their gun, it is reasonable for them to fear that you mean them harm and they can legally shoot you.

Just like it has always been.

Hahahahahaha!!!

 

[Dove]

Cue Dovid for her non sequitur response.

Show me a Trump rally where a bunch of crazed lunatics where chasing a guy yelling "Kill him!" and hitting him with a skateboard and pointing a gun at him from a few feet away.

Exactly and if that happened and it was some leftwing guy being aggressed upon by Trumpers my position wouldnt change a bit

Admin doesnt care about human beings. All he cares about is degrading his "opposition" and he would vote against our rights to "win" over "the right"(which is everyone not aligned with him)

It blows my mind how far they rake their hyperpartisanship. To the point where human life doesnt even matter to them. It's all about "talking points". I dont know how anyone could be this dismissive over things like riots and innocent people being murdered or beaten. Lives destroyed. I just cant with them.

 

[The Prowler]

And here I was worried about the skateboard....

 

[Joe]

Republican Conservative and Vietnam vet Colin Powell would have found Kyle Rittenhouse appalling and a product of a failed system/gun laws, if he didn't actually state so out loud himself.

 

[The Prowler]

However I did prove my point, that definition of a long range rifle prior
rittenhouse trial was not clearly defined under Wisconsin law.

You did not prove Jack Shit.

Post up the law, word for word, if you want to insinuate that it is or was not clearly defined.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

He looked at me with askance, I felt threatened so I shot him!

THe Present the Left Provides after being in local office for decades

 

[Dove]

I really cant fucking believe rioting mobs are being validated by anyone as some legit "side".

And that people are defending them and demanding that innocent shouldnt have any rights to self defense if these shit bags go after them.

I really struggle with that. We have actual homegrown domestic terrorists and these leftards are validating them even as they plow down children. Destroy communities. Beat. Murder. Rape innocent people.

Unreal.

We need a civil war or national divorce.

And have you thought 16 year olds carryomg around a semiautomatic AR15 that this will not endanger the public ?

I think these types were validated during the Kenosha trial.

So the American Right appears to have gotten theirs during that trial.

Validation.

Joe.....you have seen a video of my daughter shooting a gun.

Joe you are not worried about public safety. That's what IM worried about. I'm VERY concerned about mobs descending on communities, burning, looting, destroying and beating, murdering and raping innocent people.

The riots are a big enough public safety threat where EVERY citizen there should have been armed.

If Kyle didnt have that gun he would be DEAD or severely beaten. Just like MANY other people.

These rioters had guns... many illegally.

How can you possibly see all that, and think it's the kid who demonstrated excellent control of his fire arm, a skilled more responsible handler than Gross....who is a threat to public safety?

Make it make sense.

Actually, I'm not that radical, Dovey.

And I'll post a video by your very own Colin Powell, a lifelong Republican and decorated (wounded as well) Military Veteran who saw combat in Vietnam.

And he advocated gun control in your country.

He was a Conservative who supported the 2nd ammendment.

an he stated the gun problem in your country was out of control.

While he was alive he was alarmed by seeing big heavy guns being carried around in the streets.

That's a conservative and an American, not me.

He said the Conservative wing or gunowners have to make compromises to make the gun laws work.

That's your own highly decorated countryman with combat experience.

Well I'm more concerned about how you say your concern is with public safety but your issue is an innocent kid who had a firearm that he used to defend himself against a dangerous mob that was destroying Kenosha, attacking people and trying to blow up a gas station that was close to peoples homes.

Like how do you get there, Joe? That you see Kyle's gun as a public safety threat with all that violence going on? And the rioters also had guns.

You are pretty fixed on Kyle and trying to make what he did wrong when he was within the law and public safety is a concern?

Are you truly concerned with public safety? Because I can show you a video of a 70 year old business owner getting his face smashed and jaw broken by these rioters. An occupied building with children inside rioters tried to burn.

These radicals are a threat to public safety, Joe. Why is your public safety issue with regular people who are trying to protect themselves from a violent attack?

Would YOU feel safer if the regular people in these places were not armed and they could just be beaten to the point of hospitalization, murdered on the streets, and their communities destroyed and no one talked about it and we just treated blm/antifa as valid political parties who are just fighting for "justice"? That is what seems to be the approach of dems/progs. Shit Murd just thinks deaths are inevitable in riots and that people shouldnt be able to defend themselves because it would cause "more deaths"

I guess the problem is it would be deaths of those she aligns with when they attack innocent people and she just wants innocent people to die or suffering quietly so lefties can keep larping "civil rights". When really they are just violent savage terrorists.

Maybe oppose the violent attacks and riots, Joe. If public safety is your concern.....riots being opposed is a good way to support the safety of the public.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

why do you guys keep talking to joe?

He's an imbecile

 

[Dove]

He looked at me with askance, I felt threatened so I shot him!

THe Present the Left Provides after being in local office for decades

And those are nice pictures.

 

[Joe]

What Joe doesn't get, seems to me, is that it scarcely matters how any jurisdiction outside the U.S,, including Joe's beloved Dudley Do-Rights, define an AR-15. It's a purely domestic issue.

And yet Blurt, it affects Canada too.

When the guns flood the streets of America, they eventually make it into our country as well.

That's why I see unrestricted access to firearms as a threat.

We can naively think that it doesn't affect us, but it does.

If the US becomes considerably more violent, our country does too.

ie there was a recently shooting in Vancouver and high speed police chase in which the shooters got away as they fired at the police

 

[Joe]

But traditional hunting rifles.

Like this one Joe?

At least in Canada and in other nations, the AR15 semiautomatic is defined as such and is prohibited because it shoots out more than 1 bullet with 1 trigger pull.

I saw that on the RCMP website.

Now or course in the USA, the AR15 is considered a 'long rifle'. but in Canada and in other nations/jursidictions it is not for the reasons I've citied.

Whether or not one agrees with allowing the AR15 as a legal firearm in their nation, it is beyond a reasonable doubt, that the AR15 has been responsible for hundreds of killins of innocent civilians around the globe.

That's why it is listed as a prohibited firearm in many nations.

The RCMP in Canada, a highly regarded police force internaitonally, does classify the AR15 as an assault weapon/rifle.

Joe, by definition a semiautomatic is by definition one trigger pull equals one round fired. You don't know what you are talking about. Hell, I can find examples of semiautomatic rifles from the 1890's so it is not anything remotely new.

Oh I'm just going by the definition in my own country.

So I suppose in yours it's different.

At least according to our national police force.

The very first sentence of your first post I quoted in this chain said semiautomatic one pull equals multiple rounds fired. That is untrue. That is an automatic or three round burst.

I don't care which country you live in the definition of semiautomatic is the same. It is one trigger pull, one round fired. The only difference is the gas powered action has the bolt chamber a new round. On the older bolt action rifles you had to physically use a lever to chamber the next round.

I'm just saying that it's the criteria was used to ban the AR15 semiautomatic here after 16 people or more were gunned down in Canada.

 

[The Prowler]

I don't want to accept it

How the fuck does this happen to people?

"Psychological operations (PSYOP) are operations to convey selected information and indicators to audiences to influence their emotions, motives, and objective reasoning, and ultimately the behavior of governments, organizations, groups, and individuals."

 

[Dove]

Republican Conservative and Vietnam vet Colin Powell would have found Kyle Rittenhouse appalling and a product of a failed system/gun laws, if he didn't actually state so out loud himself.

Really? Because as far as I know he supported the constitution and rights of the people to defend themselves.

Dont project your feelings onto dead people, Joe. And this isnt about "Republicans" vs "democrats". This isnt political. It's about our RIGHTS. Rights to defend ourselves.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

He looked at me with askance, I felt threatened so I shot him!

THe Present the Left Provides after being in local office for decades

And those are nice pictures.

I was gonna let you and raven provide Detroit

I went with Baltimore and Philly

 

[The Prowler]

I think what drives you nuts is when people don't wholly agree with you or validate your narrative.

It's your way or the highway and nothing else.

I think what drives you nuts is that when you repeat the same bullshit a couple of thousand times, some people can still identify it as bullshit.

Hahahahaha!!!!

 

[The Prowler]

At least in Canada and in other nations, the AR15 semiautomatic is defined as such and is prohibited because it shoots out more than 1 bullet with 1 trigger pull.

Wrong.

The AR 15 shoots 1 bullet on every trigger pull.

 

[The Prowler]

I saw that on the RCMP website.

I can help you with your mistake if you ask nicely.

 

[Joe]

However I did prove my point, that definition of a long range rifle prior
rittenhouse trial was not clearly defined under Wisconsin law.

You did not prove Jack Shit.

Post up the law, word for word, if you want to insinuate that it is or was not clearly defined.

well then why did Judge Schroeder himself say that prior to the Kenosha trial that the definition of a long range rifle was murky and that it was only determined at the trial itself?

Clearly there was confusion when the Prosecution and Defense did not agree on this point

 

[X]

What Joe doesn't get, seems to me, is that it scarcely matters how any jurisdiction outside the U.S,, including Joe's beloved Dudley Do-Rights, define an AR-15. It's a purely domestic issue.

And yet Blurt, it affects Canada too.

When the guns flood the streets of America, they eventually make it into our country as well.

That's why I see unrestricted access to firearms as a threat.

We can naively think that it doesn't affect us, but it does.

If the US becomes considerably more violent, our country does too.

ie there was a recently shooting in Vancouver and high speed police chase in which the shooters got away as they fired at the police

all our illegal guhns come from that hole .. pathetic the sheer volume of handguns avail on the black market, our truckers bring them weed and trade for guns like baseball cards

 

[Joe]

Republican Conservative and Vietnam vet Colin Powell would have found Kyle Rittenhouse appalling and a product of a failed system/gun laws, if he didn't actually state so out loud himself.

Really? Because as far as I know he supported the constitution and rights of the people to defend themselves.

Dont project your feelings onto dead people, Joe. And this isnt about "Republicans" vs "democrats". This isnt political. It's about our RIGHTS. Rights to defend ourselves.

Yes, but Powell also stated that the gun situation was out of control.

He would have disagreed with you what consititutes acceptable gun control.

 

[The Prowler]

Now or course in the USA, the AR15 is considered a 'long rifle' in many US states but in Canada and in other nations/jursidictions it is not for the reasons I've citied. It is clearly defined as 'an assault weapon'.

Where does it say it is a "long rifle" in the legislature, Joe?

And I am pretty sure the AR 15 it is not clearly defined anywhere as "an assault weapon". I think Canadian law has used some fucked-up term like "assault-style weapon" or something vague like that.

And why did you not answer my question about the hunting rifle I posted, Joe?

 

[The Prowler]

What Joe doesn't get, seems to me, is that it scarcely matters how any jurisdiction outside the U.S,, including Joe's beloved Dudley Do-Rights, define an AR-15. It's a purely domestic issue.

It goes to show his mindset though.

"Canada made this decision, so it must be a smart decision."

It comes from a lifetime of not being able to think for himself - so he has no critical thinking skills.

It is why he cannot present a sound argument.

 

[Joe]

Now or course in the USA, the AR15 is considered a 'long rifle' in many US states but in Canada and in other nations/jursidictions it is not for the reasons I've citied. It is clearly defined as 'an assault weapon'.

Where does it say it is a "long rifle" in the legislature, Joe?

And I am pretty sure the AR 15 it is not clearly defined anywhere as "an assault weapon". I think Canadian law has used some fucked-up term like "assault-style weapon" or something vague like that.

And why did you not answer my question about the hunting rifle I posted, Joe?

Well the RCMP in Canada have actually referred to the AR 15 or M16 as an assault weapon and it is prohibited here, Prowler.

So that term must be part of federal legislation written into law as well.

I'll dig a bit further if you want, but the police here have referred to as prohibited assault weapon on their website.

 

[Joe]

Killed with an AR15:

 

[The Prowler]

I'm just saying that it's the criteria was used to ban the AR15 semiautomatic here after 16 people or more were gunned down in Canada.

This is bullshit. I do not think I need to tell anyone, but you cannot believe anything that Joe says.

 

[The Prowler]

However I did prove my point, that definition of a long range rifle prior
rittenhouse trial was not clearly defined under Wisconsin law.

You did not prove Jack Shit.

Post up the law, word for word, if you want to insinuate that it is or was not clearly defined.

well then why did Judge Schroeder himself say that prior to the Kenosha trial that the definition of a long range rifle was murky and that it was only determined at the trial itself?

Clearly there was confusion when the Prosecution and Defense did not agree on this point

"Judge Schroeder himself say that prior to the Kenosha trial that the definition of a long range rifle was murky "

Bullshit, Joe.

There is not any definition of "long range rifle" in Wisconsin State Legislature.

 

[Joe]

However I did prove my point, that definition of a long range rifle prior
rittenhouse trial was not clearly defined under Wisconsin law.

You did not prove Jack Shit.

Post up the law, word for word, if you want to insinuate that it is or was not clearly defined.

well then why did Judge Schroeder himself say that prior to the Kenosha trial that the definition of a long range rifle was murky and that it was only determined at the trial itself?

Clearly there was confusion when the Prosecution and Defense did not agree on this point

"Judge Schroeder himself say that prior to the Kenosha trial that the definition of a long range rifle was murky "

Bullshit, Joe.

There is not any definition of "long range rifle" in Wisconsin State Legislature.

Then why was the Judge trying to determine whether the AR15 fit the definition of a long gun at the Kenosha trial, Prowler?

That was a major point in the trial.

Weren't you watching?

 

[The Prowler]

Now or course in the USA, the AR15 is considered a 'long rifle' in many US states but in Canada and in other nations/jursidictions it is not for the reasons I've citied. It is clearly defined as 'an assault weapon'.

Where does it say it is a "long rifle" in the legislature, Joe?

And I am pretty sure the AR 15 it is not clearly defined anywhere as "an assault weapon". I think Canadian law has used some fucked-up term like "assault-style weapon" or something vague like that.

And why did you not answer my question about the hunting rifle I posted, Joe?

Well the RCMP in Canada have actually referred to the AR 15 or M16 as an assault weapon and it is prohibited here, Prowler.

So that term must be part of federal legislation written into law as well.

I'll dig a bit further if you want, but the police here have referred to as prohibited assault weapon on their website.

"I'll dig a bit further if you want" Sure, just a quick link to their official Web site would be good.

Where does it say it is a "long rifle" in the Wisconsin State Legislature, Joe?

Why did you not answer my question about the hunting rifle I posted, Joe?