Kyle Rittenhouse to go free!!!

[Dove]

Please get off Joe's fuckhead merrygoround

True he isnt hearing anyone anyway.

I like how he ignore the Kenneth Walker acquittal and Coffees acquittal. They dont like those because they ruin their whole bias narrative.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

Please get off Joe's fuckhead merrygoround

True he isnt hearing anyone anyway.

I like how he ignore the Kenneth Walker acquittal and Coffees acquittal. They dont like those because they ruin their whole bias narrative.

I've stepped in puddles of rain water that had more common sense than that fucking mook

 

[Joe]

Joe you need to always remember that when dealing with Trumptards even though they might look like a normal person, but they totally lack reason and accountability.

Yes, scary when so much of the US population thinks like that.

They don't even understand basic legal procedure and want to overturn the rule of law.

For that reason, I honestly think democracy won't last much longer in the United States as you appear to be headed towards fascism.

Give you a decade or 2. By then democracy will probably be finished in America.

Somewhat like what happened in Turkey where the current President gradually stripped away all the democratic institutions there and eesentially declared himself de facto Dictator for life.

 

[The Prowler]

Yes a trial was mandatory once the state laid charges against Kyle

Wrong, Joe.

You have no fuckin' idea what you are talking about.

If a defendant pleads "Guilty", there is no trial. Period.

So you are, once again, wrong.


You backed-down on your false "mandatory to charge him" claim.

Now you need to back down on this claim.

 

[The Prowler]

Irony Alert!!!!

They don't even understand basic legal procedure

How can anyone be so out of touch with reality?

Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

 

[Dove]

Joe you need to always remember that when dealing with Trumptards even though they might look like a normal person, but they totally lack reason and accountability.

Yes, scary when so much of the US population thinks like that.

They don't even understand basic legal procedure and want to overturn the rule of law.

For that reason, I honestly think democracy won't last much longer in the United States as you appear to be headed towards fascism.

Give you a decade or 2. By then democracy will probably be finished in America.

Somewhat like what happened in Turkey where the current President gradually stripped away all the democratic institutions there and eesentially declared himself de facto Dictator for life.

Joe you are literally the ONLY one confused on the WI law and why the weapons charge was dropped.

We have all explained this. Posted links explaining it. Posted the law itself to SHOW you.

But that's not good enough. You chose to ignore it, and complain that someone who didnt break any laws should have still been charged because you do not like the law on the book.

You are the one who thinks democracy is being threatened because the law was upheld. And instead of just investing a few minutes into reading the law and why it was dropped.....you are just claiming the judge was bias and the trial was fixed.

Its THIS kind of lazy and bias thinking that is an actual threat to "democarcy"(we are a Republic, but eh).

Complete disregard of the law, our rights, the safety of innocent people and a total inability to set politcs aside.

So yeah no....you people who think the law and the Constitution should be optional depending on your partisan narratives are the real problem. Sorry we arent willing to let America become a 3rd world shit hole with political "justice" where we charge people based on feelings.

And I see you wont say anything about the Walker or Coffee acquittal. Is it because it's harder to create partisan "sides", figure out which one "teh right" took and oppose it or because it's not narrative friendly?

 

[Dove]

Irony Alert!!!!

They don't even understand basic legal procedure

How can anyone be so out of touch with reality?

Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

Right?! How many times was theaw posted and this explained?

And Joe is just like "nah. The judge was bias. They should have charged him with an imaginary crime".

Wtf?!

 

[The Prowler]

Right?! How many times was theaw posted and this explained?

Joe has now taken to discussing legal procedures in general.

He thinks that every time someone is charged, there is a trial.

He is clued-out.

 

[Joe]

Yes a trial was mandatory once the state laid charges against Kyle

Wrong, Joe.

You have no fuckin' idea what you are talking about.

If a defendant pleads "Guilty", there is no trial. Period.

So you are, once again, wrong.


You backed-down on your false "mandatory to charge him" claim.

Now you need to back down on this claim.

Even the defense lawyers for Kyle Rittenhouse wouldn't agree with you.

They understand that when a defendent has been charged with criminal offences under state law, a trial is required. So a court date is set and it is unavoidable.

A trial is no indication of whether a defendent is guily or not.

That is why the call it a TRIAL because it is a legal process which is used to make that determination.

That is due process.

Get it...Idiot?

And BTW, you're the biggest fuckin idiot on this forum.

 

[Lokmar]

Yes a trial was mandatory once the state laid charges against Kyle

Wrong, Joe.

You have no fuckin' idea what you are talking about.

If a defendant pleads "Guilty", there is no trial. Period.

So you are, once again, wrong.


You backed-down on your false "mandatory to charge him" claim.

Now you need to back down on this claim.

Even the defense lawyers for Kyle Rittenhouse wouldn't agree with you.

They understand that when a defendent has been charged with criminal offences under state law, a trial is required. So a court date is set and it is unavoidable.

A trial is no indication of whether a defendent is guily or not.

That is why the call it a TRIAL because it is a legal process which is used to make that determination.

That is due process.

Get it...Idiot?

And BTW, you're the biggest fuckin idiot on this forum.

No faggit ass, thats YUO! PWN3D!

 

[Joe]

No faggit ass, thats YUO! PWN3D!

Careful Lokmeer. Your Closeted Homosexuality is revealing itself again.

But stay in the closet as long as you can, Bud.

 

[Dove]

Yes a trial was mandatory once the state laid charges against Kyle

Wrong, Joe.

You have no fuckin' idea what you are talking about.

If a defendant pleads "Guilty", there is no trial. Period.

So you are, once again, wrong.


You backed-down on your false "mandatory to charge him" claim.

Now you need to back down on this claim.

Even the defense lawyers for Kyle Rittenhouse wouldn't agree with you.

They understand that when a defendent has been charged with criminal offences under state law, a trial is required. So a court date is set and it is unavoidable.

A trial is no indication of whether a defendent is guily or not.

That is why the call it a TRIAL because it is a legal process which is used to make that determination.

That is due process.

Get it...Idiot?

And BTW, you're the biggest fuckin idiot on this forum.

Joe not every criminal charge leads to a trial. Some people even wave their right to a trial. Some plead guilty to lesser charges to AVOID a trial. Not everyone wants a jury of their peers to see the evidence against them. We dont always have trials. It depends on how they plead or what deals they make.

It's not a simple thing at all.

Kinda like my point with these charges placed on Kyle. They didnt even finish an investigation. Normally.....and you can check this, if someone turns themselves in and says they killed someone in self defense(which pretty much always happens in a self defense case, people who've defended themselves get police asap) there is an investigation launched.

They do not make any arrests. They investigate the claim. If its found to be self defense, no charges are brought.

If they find something suggesting foul play? They may arrest and bring charges.

Kyle was charged within DAYS. For POLITICAL reasons. Binger is a scum bag opportunitist. He gets publicity and gets to be an activist. A guy who fought the "good fight". He KNEW he had no case. This was exploitation. It NEVER should have happened and we have BEEN saying that.

There was no evidence whatsoever that this was anything BUT self defense. The whole thing was on video ffs. Several angles even. This was an opportunist predatory waste of tax dollars and a ruthless defaming of an innocent kid for a political narrative. This should anger everyone regardless of politics.

 

[Dove]

There is always an investigation before charges are brought.

Because they need to bring charges that can be justified with the proper evidence. They dont just charge people within a day for something.

If they bring charges they cant prove they blow the case.

That's exactly what happened with Zimmerman. Had they charged him appropriately with the right charges they could have gotten a conviction. But the prosecution went political. So he brought unreasonable charges to hype a mob. Then when they didnt get a conviction(because the evidence didnt match the charge).....they can pretend its I justice and a problem with the system. Not a problem with a political opportunist prosecution.

Our establishment shill "friends" here either cannot or will not understand this, neither do they respect the judicial system, or understand laws and our rights and they fly off on pure emotion and outrage and try to enforce that. You cannot just demand your idea of "justice". Which clearly on their behalf is so over simplified and emotional it wouldnt even be justice and due process would be gone.

 

[The Prowler]

They understand that when a defendent has been charged with criminal offences under state law, a trial is required. So a court date is set and it is unavoidable.

**Yawn**

This is so basic that you should be embarrassed.

Here is one quote from The Government of Canada: "If the accused pleads guilty, a trial is not necessary and the Court will sentence the accused person either immediately or shortly thereafter."

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[Dove]

Same here.

 

[The Prowler]

The UK: "Pleading guilty to an offence means that you accept you have committed that offence. Once you plead guilty you are convicted of the offence. For this reason, following a guilty plea there is no need for a trial and the court will proceed to sentence, either immediately or at a later hearing. "

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Hahahahahaha!!!!

 

[The Prowler]

Hey Joe....

wait for it.....


wait....


For.....



it....

 

[Dove]

I like how the person who constantly says how much smarter and more educated she is than anyone is lost on this entirely and liking posts that are wrong.

Shes liking the posts JUST because Joe is arguing with us. Not because he is right.

And the thing is, it's okay to be wrong about something. There is nothing fucking wrong with that. With being wrong, or not having some info, or being ignorant about a topic. Not one person knows EVERYTHING.

Intelligence is how you handle being wrong. Smart thinking people will check what they are saying to make sure its right. Or if they are corrected they will accept that and LEARN something.

Not partisans though. They gotta be shitheads and refuse facts or right info because they just hate people and need to be right about everything. They would destroy and 3rd world the justice system before trying to understand why things are the way they are.

Lily doesnt even fucking know not all charges see a trial. But then she doesnt CARE either. She wants who the media tells her to hate in prison and doesnt care either way about criminals being allowed on the streets to run over little girls. "Karma". Fucking hell.

Not really Joe.....but he is being a stubborn shit and I dont know why.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

Lily and joe are both egg headed morons


End of

 

[The Prowler]

Wisconsin:

345.34 Arraignment; pleas.
(2) If the defendant pleads guilty or no contest, the court shall accept the plea, find the defendant guilty and proceed under s. 345.47.

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So we skip....

345.36  Not guilty plea; failure to appear.
345.37  Procedure on default of appearance.
345.375  Judgment against a corporation or limited liability company.
345.38  Effect of plea of no contest.
345.40  Pleading.
345.41  Motion to dismiss.
Note: This is when the defense in the Rittenhouse trial first motioned for the bogus gun charge to be dismissed. Because of a technicality regarding affirmative defense, the judge could not grant the motion at this time. The statute that details that technicality is the statute that the judge complained about. i.e. He would have preferred to measure the gun at this time and dismiss the charge before it ever went to trial. Dumb ass.
345.42  Preliminary proceedings.
345.421  Discovery.
345.422  No guardian ad litem.
345.425  Mode of trial.
345.43  Jury trial.
Note: See, you stupid fuck, this is the trial that we are skipping.
345.45  Burden of proof.
345.46  Verdict.

to get all the way down to...

345.47  Judgment of forfeitures, costs, fees, and surcharges.

 

[SHAMPAIN]

Uh oh LOkmar

 

[SHAMPAIN]

 

[Joe]

Hey Joe....

wait for it.....


wait....


For.....



it....

And so if thousands of people start protesting in the streets demanding that a trial take place and it results in even more unrest, do you ignore them dumbass?

and what about the relatives of protesters injured or killed in Kenosha?

do you ignore their demands for a trial as well?

What do you do about them, dumb ass?

Christ I'd hate to see you at the helm.

There'd be 10 moe Kenoshas not one.

 

[Dove]

Hey Joe....

wait for it.....


wait....


For.....



it....

And so if thousands of people start protesting in the streets demanding that a trial take place and it results in even more unrest, do you ignore them dumbass?

and what about the relatives of protesters injured or killed in Kenosha?

do you ignore their demands for a trial as well?

What do you do about them, dumb ass?

Christ I'd hate to see you at the helm.

There'd be 10 moe Kenoshas not one.

1. YES you do. Joe you were worried about democracy and you think we should have mob justice?

A bunch of people who are in a mob mentality cannot just demand someones RIGHTS are stripped. We have individual constitutional rights. You dont lose those rights because of a mob....that's not how the country or justice system works. And if it did, it would be awful.

2. What? Relatives of protesters? Joe if their relative went to another community to burn shit down and attacked an innocent person? No one needs to worry about them. Their relative isn't above the law, isnt entitled to inflict violence on others. Maybe the relatives should apologize to the community there kin attacked.

3. Yes, mobs do not get to dictate a trial. So much for due process, than? Didnt you say you cared about due process? Again mobs do not get to demand a person's rights are stripped. People are innocent until proven guilty. Everyone gets their day in court. Mobs do not run this country and demand how the judicial system works.

People need to educated themselves on how the system works and what the laws are and what rights we are have. That's a personal responsibility. Mobs attacking towns is domestic terror. Mobs attacking trials and demanding to influence them and bypass due process is domestic terror.

People who try to stalk and intimidate juries to influence a verdict belong in prison. Period.

4. We do the same thing we always do. Crowd control and protecting the juries.

But they dont get to high jack the judicial system and enforce mob justice. And I'm not sure why you think that's a good idea.

If mobs demand a trial take place but the one charged enters a plea deal? Well there isnt going to be a trial. People have rights and even when charged those rights need to be upheld.

If they dont like the laws there are ways to change things that dont involve acts of domestic terror. The peoples votes are how laws pass. Instead of mobbing and being ignorant and violent....they should get educated on the system, laws and rights and move through the proper channels provided to our Republic that allows us to run our government. They are there.

 

[The Prowler]

And so if thousands of people start protesting in the streets demanding that a trial take place and it results in even more unrest, do you ignore them dumbass?

and what about the relatives of protesters injured or killed in Kenosha?

do you ignore their demands for a trial as well?

What do you do about them, dumb ass?

Christ I'd hate to see you at the helm.

There'd be 10 moe Kenoshas not one.

I should write a book about Joe.

The Tragedy of the Perpetually Confused

Hahahahahahahaha!!!!!

 

[Joe]

And so if thousands of people start protesting in the streets demanding that a trial take place and it results in even more unrest, do you ignore them dumbass?

and what about the relatives of protesters injured or killed in Kenosha?

do you ignore their demands for a trial as well?

What do you do about them, dumb ass?

Christ I'd hate to see you at the helm.

There'd be 10 moe Kenoshas not one.

I should write a book about Joe.

The Tragedy of the Perpetually Confused

Hahahahahahahaha!!!!!

Didn't you say you had a wife, Prowler?

Or did you devour parts of her and chuck the rest in the basement?

 

[Joe]

Hey Joe....

wait for it.....


wait....


For.....



it....

And so if thousands of people start protesting in the streets demanding that a trial take place and it results in even more unrest, do you ignore them dumbass?

and what about the relatives of protesters injured or killed in Kenosha?

do you ignore their demands for a trial as well?

What do you do about them, dumb ass?

Christ I'd hate to see you at the helm.

There'd be 10 moe Kenoshas not one.

1. YES you do. Joe you were worried about democracy and you think we should have mob justice?

A bunch of people who are in a mob mentality cannot just demand someones RIGHTS are stripped. We have individual constitutional rights. You dont lose those rights because of a mob....that's not how the country or justice system works. And if it did, it would be awful.

2. What? Relatives of protesters? Joe if their relative went to another community to burn shit down and attacked an innocent person? No one needs to worry about them. Their relative isn't above the law, isnt entitled to inflict violence on others. Maybe the relatives should apologize to the community there kin attacked.

3. Yes, mobs do not get to dictate a trial. So much for due process, than? Didnt you say you cared about due process? Again mobs do not get to demand a person's rights are stripped. People are innocent until proven guilty. Everyone gets their day in court. Mobs do not run this country and demand how the judicial system works.

People need to educated themselves on how the system works and what the laws are and what rights we are have. That's a personal responsibility. Mobs attacking towns is domestic terror. Mobs attacking trials and demanding to influence them and bypass due process is domestic terror.

People who try to stalk and intimidate juries to influence a verdict belong in prison. Period.

4. We do the same thing we always do. Crowd control and protecting the juries.

But they dont get to high jack the judicial system and enforce mob justice. And I'm not sure why you think that's a good idea.

If mobs demand a trial take place but the one charged enters a plea deal? Well there isnt going to be a trial. People have rights and even when charged those rights need to be upheld.

If they dont like the laws there are ways to change things that dont involve acts of domestic terror. The peoples votes are how laws pass. Instead of mobbing and being ignorant and violent....they should get educated on the system, laws and rights and move through the proper channels provided to our Republic that allows us to run our government. They are there.

But you can't ignore that 3 people died that night.

there still has to be a trail whether you like or despise Kyle's adverseries.

Otherwise it's like following the example of a totalitarian society where bodies disappear in the middle of the night no questions asked in the morning.

The USA is stilll a democracy, so these facts cannot ignored.

Maybe North Korea or China but not the US.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

Joe shut the fuck up already

 

[The Prowler]

English is Hard: Joe Edition

Didn't you say you had a wife, Prowler?

Past tense.

Or

Conjunction used to separate alternatives.

did you devour parts of her and chuck the rest in the basement?

If I did devour parts of her and chuck the rest in the basement, then that would not negate the fact that I once had a wife. In other words, you did not separate alternatives.


Joe, can you explain why both of these options make sense, but what you said is moronic?


Option 1

"Didn't you say you have a wife, Prowler?

Or did you devour parts of her and chuck the rest in the basement?"



Option 2

"Didn't you say you had a wife, Prowler?

And did you devour parts of her and chuck the rest in the basement?"

 

[The Prowler]

Joe shut the fuck up already

He is an interesting idiot.

It is like studying a brain-damaged snail who has the ability of speech.

And who has not wondered what a snail would say if it could talk?!??

Hahahahahaha!!!!