Kyle Rittenhouse to go free!!!

[Murdy]

Kenosha car dealer denies he asked gunmen to protect his business
A Kenosha car dealer said Thursday he never asked a band of riflemen to guard one of his businesses the night of two fatal shootings, contesting a narrative the accused gunman's attorney told on Fox News.
Rittenhouse, of Antioch, Illinois, almost immediately became a cause célèbre among conservatives and gun rights advocates. His new attorney, John Pierce of Los Angeles, told Fox News' Tucker Carlson that Rittenhouse acted in clear self-defense because the three victims had chased and were trying to disarm and hurt him.
In telling the story, Pierce repeated a storyline already popular in social media, that the group of rifle-toting men Rittenhouse was with that night had been asked by the owner of a damaged business to protect what he had left.
But the co-owner of Car Source said Thursday he didn't hire the men, ask for their help or endorse it.
"Why would I?" Anmol Khindri said, in an interview with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. "I'm already burned out. There was nothing left to protect."
Khindri said when he left the area Tuesday around the time of the curfew — 9 p.m. that night — he did not authorize people to be on his roof or remember seeing gunmen there.

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He is trying to evade liability now. He knows this is going to turn into a wrongful death claim.

I want to see the contract.
Someone must have captured it before the Deep State took it down offa places.

If he actually employed them, the business is now liable for everything they did.

 

[Dove]

and that they were the first time a gun?

We aren't talking about property here.

Seriously, dude/ette - you're a kinda cute liddle fellagal
and I'm just saying I worry for you.
I make a suggestion that you slow down with the drugs and booze.

Summed up: "people nervous about the Covid shot who are not comfortable with force are ignorant anti vaxxers, they are killing people, they are bad....they are spreading a preventable illness. And look at these cherry picked clips of fox news and hate these people...look at them spreading propaganda and how stupid and crazy they all are!! We are gonna pepper this with death numbers just to really drive home how evil we want you to see these people. DONT expect us to directly deal one on one with anyone we slam though. Just listen to us and the fear and hate flew through you"

Yep.

 

[Oerdin]

The right to protect yourself from imminent danger does NOT enable you to interject yourself in a riot with a semi automatic weapon and kill people for fucks sake!

It factually does when those specific three people literally tried to murder the individual in question.

 

[Murdy]

The right to protect yourself from imminent danger does NOT enable you to interject yourself in a riot with a semi automatic weapon and kill people for fucks sake!

He didn't inject anything. It is perfectly legal to walk down the street just as it is perfectly legal to open carry. Yes, the right to self defense does exist for people who are physically attacking you are cause reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm. It was clear Kyle was in imminent danger and the use of force was justice as the use of force expert said in his testimony last friday.

948.55 Wisconsin legislature disagrees with you

 

[Holliday1881]

Do you carry a gun around

It was tragic that Kyle had to defend himself but he did nothing wrong. The other guy was just sucked at his job and though race baiting would make him too popular to fire. He was wrong as well as a racist piece of shit.

It is amazing how you always manage to get everything wrong.

Do you carry a gun around?

Not regularly. The last time I regularly carried a gun around was in Iraq. I do own one, know how to use it properly, and practice 3-4 times a year. Given that night was the second night of riots, arson, looting, and violence I can certainly understand why locals would want to be armed. That is only prudent.

Too many idiots carrying guns around in the US.

Places like Switzerland gun ownership is high but many of those people spent time in the military learning to fire and store weapons properly.

The requirements on citizens should be many times more stringent than a trained soldier or military vet.

They dont let anyone get a flying license so why is the States so lenient on gun ownership?

You obviously didn't see how much of an excellent shot Kyle was

so was that other wannabe cop… the Zimmerman slob

here we go... on the merry go round

anything to avoid discussing the merits of this case

Wait… so you mean you want to discuss the “merit” of a case where the trial of the minor accused is going to be held in a state where it is against the law for children to carry weapons….

it’s a slam dunk case where I stand.

Well, don't forget - According to him it was his JOB to DEFEND that property.
Even though he was authorized by no one to do so.

Notice how Fairyday1881 tiptoes away from his original supposition that it was anyone other than one of his fellow cretins that introduced Malcomn into the thread

lolz

this is like shooting fish in a barrel

a friendly bed and then mapping out numerous stipulations AFTER I said yes #SMH

Do you carry a gun around

It was tragic that Kyle had to defend himself but he did nothing wrong. The other guy was just sucked at his job and though race baiting would make him too popular to fire. He was wrong as well as a racist piece of shit.

It is amazing how you always manage to get everything wrong.

Do you carry a gun around?

Not regularly. The last time I regularly carried a gun around was in Iraq. I do own one, know how to use it properly, and practice 3-4 times a year. Given that night was the second night of riots, arson, looting, and violence I can certainly understand why locals would want to be armed. That is only prudent.

Too many idiots carrying guns around in the US.

Places like Switzerland gun ownership is high but many of those people spent time in the military learning to fire and store weapons properly.

The requirements on citizens should be many times more stringent than a trained soldier or military vet.

They dont let anyone get a flying license so why is the States so lenient on gun ownership?

You obviously didn't see how much of an excellent shot Kyle was

so was that other wannabe cop… the Zimmerman slob

here we go... on the merry go round

anything to avoid discussing the merits of this case

Wait… so you mean you want to discuss the “merit” of a case where the trial of the minor accused is going to be held in a state where it is against the law for children to carry weapons….

it’s a slam dunk case where I stand.

Well, don't forget - According to him it was his JOB to DEFEND that property.
Even though he was authorized by no one to do so.

The Constitution does. We have the right to defend private property.

He was asked by the owners.

You know what no one has a right to do? Attack a community of innocent people, destroy property and violently attack people. But all that is okay to you people.....you are just mad that someone defended themselves.

All these bullshit imaginary "rules" that gives these mobs all these specail rights to destroy communities and murder people.....but completely disempowers anyone from protecting the community or thier own bodies.

Such hateful garbage. You are just a mindless hateful apologists of domestic terror. It takes an abnormal, brainwashed amount of hate to defend political violence being inflicted on totally innocent people.

I hope it happens to you guys. I really do. I would LOVE to see riots on YOUR street. See how much you support "justice" when it's a member of YOUR family being drug out of a car and beaten. Or chased by rioters with weapons. You guys enjoy this as long as it happens to communities you just dont fucking care about. None of you give a genuine fuck about anything unless it happens to you.

OMFG this is painful. You do not have the right to defend property with a gun. Some states have questionable law (unclear) pertaining to the home being burned to the ground and being able to protect yourself from that happening since your life would technically be endangered.

You have the right to protect yourself using deadly force while in your home ONLY if your life is threatened.

Murdy, this is a serious question. Do you not understand that people attacked Kyle physically, minutes after threatening to kill him, and that they were the first to fire a gun?

We aren't talking about property here. Also, no, the right to self defense is not restricted only to your home. All three people who got shot physically attacked Kyle before he defended himself.

Why was he there to begin with?

Sure, and that also was perfectly legal. Just as it was legal for out of state protester to be there. What was illegal is when Antifa/BLM started rioting, looting, and attempting to murder people.

It was actually illegal for a minor to be carrying a deadly weapon.

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[Murdy]

The right to protect yourself from imminent danger does NOT enable you to interject yourself in a riot with a semi automatic weapon and kill people for fucks sake!

It factually does when those specific three people literally tried to murder the individual in question.

so what you’re saying is that Kyle was just walking down the street minding his own business with a semi automatic weapon… and no one had the right to defend themselves against him?

 

[Murdy]

The fact of the matter is any civilian openly carrying a gun is going to escalate any situation they are in. This is why the law is written to deter people from doing this.

 

[Oerdin]

Do you carry a gun around

It was tragic that Kyle had to defend himself but he did nothing wrong. The other guy was just sucked at his job and though race baiting would make him too popular to fire. He was wrong as well as a racist piece of shit.

It is amazing how you always manage to get everything wrong.

Do you carry a gun around?

Not regularly. The last time I regularly carried a gun around was in Iraq. I do own one, know how to use it properly, and practice 3-4 times a year. Given that night was the second night of riots, arson, looting, and violence I can certainly understand why locals would want to be armed. That is only prudent.

Too many idiots carrying guns around in the US.

Places like Switzerland gun ownership is high but many of those people spent time in the military learning to fire and store weapons properly.

The requirements on citizens should be many times more stringent than a trained soldier or military vet.

They dont let anyone get a flying license so why is the States so lenient on gun ownership?

1) Because the constitution requires that the right to keep and bare arms shall not be infringed.

2) I am a military vet with two combat tours. I agree former military are probably better trained than average and would even agree to increased training requirements being mandated. There is still point #1 though.

What's often noticeable is that those who actually served in the military usually don't carry the gun around wherever all the time they go nor do they stock up like they're trying to start a war.

But the insecure fool who wasn't brave enough to serve his country when he was called upon needs 10 or 20 firearms in his basement to prove somehow that hes a man.

I have one and don't feel the need for more. Bi can easily see reasons to own more without resorting to silly nonsense like questioning a person's manhood. One deer hunting which has different needs from bird hunting which has different needs from skeet shooting which has different needs from home defense which has different needs from whatever you can think of. That is before we get to collectors who often seek out vintage, rare, or antique firearms.

Who are we to tell other people what they can and cannot spend their hard earned cash on as long as it is legal?

 

[Holliday1881]

 

[Murdy]

Do you carry a gun around

It was tragic that Kyle had to defend himself but he did nothing wrong. The other guy was just sucked at his job and though race baiting would make him too popular to fire. He was wrong as well as a racist piece of shit.

It is amazing how you always manage to get everything wrong.

Do you carry a gun around?

Not regularly. The last time I regularly carried a gun around was in Iraq. I do own one, know how to use it properly, and practice 3-4 times a year. Given that night was the second night of riots, arson, looting, and violence I can certainly understand why locals would want to be armed. That is only prudent.

Too many idiots carrying guns around in the US.

Places like Switzerland gun ownership is high but many of those people spent time in the military learning to fire and store weapons properly.

The requirements on citizens should be many times more stringent than a trained soldier or military vet.

They dont let anyone get a flying license so why is the States so lenient on gun ownership?

1) Because the constitution requires that the right to keep and bare arms shall not be infringed.

2) I am a military vet with two combat tours. I agree former military are probably better trained than average and would even agree to increased training requirements being mandated. There is still point #1 though.

What's often noticeable is that those who actually served in the military usually don't carry the gun around wherever all the time they go nor do they stock up like they're trying to start a war.

But the insecure fool who wasn't brave enough to serve his country when he was called upon needs 10 or 20 firearms in his basement to prove somehow that hes a man.

I have one and don't feel the need for more. Bi can easily see reasons to own more without resorting to silly nonsense like questioning a person's manhood. One deer hunting which has different needs from bird hunting which has different needs from skeet shooting which has different needs from home defense which has different needs from whatever you can think of. That is before we get to collectors who often seek out vintage, rare, or antique firearms.

Who are we to tell other people what they can and cannot spend their hard earned cash on as long as it is legal?

Except your comparisons are to hunting animals and Kyle was hunting humans that night.

 

[Dove]

Do you carry a gun around

It was tragic that Kyle had to defend himself but he did nothing wrong. The other guy was just sucked at his job and though race baiting would make him too popular to fire. He was wrong as well as a racist piece of shit.

It is amazing how you always manage to get everything wrong.

Do you carry a gun around?

Not regularly. The last time I regularly carried a gun around was in Iraq. I do own one, know how to use it properly, and practice 3-4 times a year. Given that night was the second night of riots, arson, looting, and violence I can certainly understand why locals would want to be armed. That is only prudent.

Too many idiots carrying guns around in the US.

Places like Switzerland gun ownership is high but many of those people spent time in the military learning to fire and store weapons properly.

The requirements on citizens should be many times more stringent than a trained soldier or military vet.

They dont let anyone get a flying license so why is the States so lenient on gun ownership?

You obviously didn't see how much of an excellent shot Kyle was

so was that other wannabe cop… the Zimmerman slob

here we go... on the merry go round

anything to avoid discussing the merits of this case

Wait… so you mean you want to discuss the “merit” of a case where the trial of the minor accused is going to be held in a state where it is against the law for children to carry weapons….

it’s a slam dunk case where I stand.

Well, don't forget - According to him it was his JOB to DEFEND that property.
Even though he was authorized by no one to do so.

Notice how Fairyday1881 tiptoes away from his original supposition that it was anyone other than one of his fellow cretins that introduced Malcomn into the thread

lolz

this is like shooting fish in a barrel

a friendly bed and then mapping out numerous stipulations AFTER I said yes #SMH

Do you carry a gun around

It was tragic that Kyle had to defend himself but he did nothing wrong. The other guy was just sucked at his job and though race baiting would make him too popular to fire. He was wrong as well as a racist piece of shit.

It is amazing how you always manage to get everything wrong.

Do you carry a gun around?

Not regularly. The last time I regularly carried a gun around was in Iraq. I do own one, know how to use it properly, and practice 3-4 times a year. Given that night was the second night of riots, arson, looting, and violence I can certainly understand why locals would want to be armed. That is only prudent.

Too many idiots carrying guns around in the US.

Places like Switzerland gun ownership is high but many of those people spent time in the military learning to fire and store weapons properly.

The requirements on citizens should be many times more stringent than a trained soldier or military vet.

They dont let anyone get a flying license so why is the States so lenient on gun ownership?

You obviously didn't see how much of an excellent shot Kyle was

so was that other wannabe cop… the Zimmerman slob

here we go... on the merry go round

anything to avoid discussing the merits of this case

Wait… so you mean you want to discuss the “merit” of a case where the trial of the minor accused is going to be held in a state where it is against the law for children to carry weapons….

it’s a slam dunk case where I stand.

Well, don't forget - According to him it was his JOB to DEFEND that property.
Even though he was authorized by no one to do so.

The Constitution does. We have the right to defend private property.

He was asked by the owners.

You know what no one has a right to do? Attack a community of innocent people, destroy property and violently attack people. But all that is okay to you people.....you are just mad that someone defended themselves.

All these bullshit imaginary "rules" that gives these mobs all these specail rights to destroy communities and murder people.....but completely disempowers anyone from protecting the community or thier own bodies.

Such hateful garbage. You are just a mindless hateful apologists of domestic terror. It takes an abnormal, brainwashed amount of hate to defend political violence being inflicted on totally innocent people.

I hope it happens to you guys. I really do. I would LOVE to see riots on YOUR street. See how much you support "justice" when it's a member of YOUR family being drug out of a car and beaten. Or chased by rioters with weapons. You guys enjoy this as long as it happens to communities you just dont fucking care about. None of you give a genuine fuck about anything unless it happens to you.

OMFG this is painful. You do not have the right to defend property with a gun. Some states have questionable law (unclear) pertaining to the home being burned to the ground and being able to protect yourself from that happening since your life would technically be endangered.

You have the right to protect yourself using deadly force while in your home ONLY if your life is threatened.

Murdy, this is a serious question. Do you not understand that people attacked Kyle physically, minutes after threatening to kill him, and that they were the first to fire a gun?

We aren't talking about property here. Also, no, the right to self defense is not restricted only to your home. All three people who got shot physically attacked Kyle before he defended himself.

Why was he there to begin with?

Sure, and that also was perfectly legal. Just as it was legal for out of state protester to be there. What was illegal is when Antifa/BLM started rioting, looting, and attempting to murder people.

It was actually illegal for a minor to be carrying a deadly weapon.

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They are likely gonna have to fix that. The judge is deciding.

Also this doesnt negate that he was within his rights to defend himself.

 

[Holliday1881]

Good gadz - Cons took yet another devastating beating here.

.Why can't they learn?

 

[Murdy]

Do you carry a gun around

It was tragic that Kyle had to defend himself but he did nothing wrong. The other guy was just sucked at his job and though race baiting would make him too popular to fire. He was wrong as well as a racist piece of shit.

It is amazing how you always manage to get everything wrong.

Do you carry a gun around?

Not regularly. The last time I regularly carried a gun around was in Iraq. I do own one, know how to use it properly, and practice 3-4 times a year. Given that night was the second night of riots, arson, looting, and violence I can certainly understand why locals would want to be armed. That is only prudent.

Too many idiots carrying guns around in the US.

Places like Switzerland gun ownership is high but many of those people spent time in the military learning to fire and store weapons properly.

The requirements on citizens should be many times more stringent than a trained soldier or military vet.

They dont let anyone get a flying license so why is the States so lenient on gun ownership?

You obviously didn't see how much of an excellent shot Kyle was

so was that other wannabe cop… the Zimmerman slob

here we go... on the merry go round

anything to avoid discussing the merits of this case

Wait… so you mean you want to discuss the “merit” of a case where the trial of the minor accused is going to be held in a state where it is against the law for children to carry weapons….

it’s a slam dunk case where I stand.

Well, don't forget - According to him it was his JOB to DEFEND that property.
Even though he was authorized by no one to do so.

Notice how Fairyday1881 tiptoes away from his original supposition that it was anyone other than one of his fellow cretins that introduced Malcomn into the thread

lolz

this is like shooting fish in a barrel

a friendly bed and then mapping out numerous stipulations AFTER I said yes #SMH

Do you carry a gun around

It was tragic that Kyle had to defend himself but he did nothing wrong. The other guy was just sucked at his job and though race baiting would make him too popular to fire. He was wrong as well as a racist piece of shit.

It is amazing how you always manage to get everything wrong.

Do you carry a gun around?

Not regularly. The last time I regularly carried a gun around was in Iraq. I do own one, know how to use it properly, and practice 3-4 times a year. Given that night was the second night of riots, arson, looting, and violence I can certainly understand why locals would want to be armed. That is only prudent.

Too many idiots carrying guns around in the US.

Places like Switzerland gun ownership is high but many of those people spent time in the military learning to fire and store weapons properly.

The requirements on citizens should be many times more stringent than a trained soldier or military vet.

They dont let anyone get a flying license so why is the States so lenient on gun ownership?

You obviously didn't see how much of an excellent shot Kyle was

so was that other wannabe cop… the Zimmerman slob

here we go... on the merry go round

anything to avoid discussing the merits of this case

Wait… so you mean you want to discuss the “merit” of a case where the trial of the minor accused is going to be held in a state where it is against the law for children to carry weapons….

it’s a slam dunk case where I stand.

Well, don't forget - According to him it was his JOB to DEFEND that property.
Even though he was authorized by no one to do so.

The Constitution does. We have the right to defend private property.

He was asked by the owners.

You know what no one has a right to do? Attack a community of innocent people, destroy property and violently attack people. But all that is okay to you people.....you are just mad that someone defended themselves.

All these bullshit imaginary "rules" that gives these mobs all these specail rights to destroy communities and murder people.....but completely disempowers anyone from protecting the community or thier own bodies.

Such hateful garbage. You are just a mindless hateful apologists of domestic terror. It takes an abnormal, brainwashed amount of hate to defend political violence being inflicted on totally innocent people.

I hope it happens to you guys. I really do. I would LOVE to see riots on YOUR street. See how much you support "justice" when it's a member of YOUR family being drug out of a car and beaten. Or chased by rioters with weapons. You guys enjoy this as long as it happens to communities you just dont fucking care about. None of you give a genuine fuck about anything unless it happens to you.

OMFG this is painful. You do not have the right to defend property with a gun. Some states have questionable law (unclear) pertaining to the home being burned to the ground and being able to protect yourself from that happening since your life would technically be endangered.

You have the right to protect yourself using deadly force while in your home ONLY if your life is threatened.

Murdy, this is a serious question. Do you not understand that people attacked Kyle physically, minutes after threatening to kill him, and that they were the first to fire a gun?

We aren't talking about property here. Also, no, the right to self defense is not restricted only to your home. All three people who got shot physically attacked Kyle before he defended himself.

Why was he there to begin with?

Sure, and that also was perfectly legal. Just as it was legal for out of state protester to be there. What was illegal is when Antifa/BLM started rioting, looting, and attempting to murder people.

It was actually illegal for a minor to be carrying a deadly weapon.

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I’m not surprised… he carried a semi automatic assault rifle that he obtained illegally and without the supervision of his parents across state lines.

He has been charged with first degree murder.

He is DONE.

 

[Dove]

Good gadz - Cons took yet another devastating beating here.

.Why can't they learn?

More delusions.

It would be nice if there was even a match.

 

[LotusBud]

The right to protect yourself from imminent danger does NOT enable you to interject yourself in a riot with a semi automatic weapon and kill people for fucks sake!

It factually does when those specific three people literally tried to murder the individual in question.

so what you’re saying is that Kyle was just walking down the street minding his own business with a semi automatic weapon… and no one had the right to defend themselves against him?

That's exactly what they're saying. A righty has the right to threaten people with lethal weapons, but a lefty does not have the right to defend him/herself against those weapons.

 

[Oerdin]

The right to protect yourself from imminent danger does NOT enable you to interject yourself in a riot with a semi automatic weapon and kill people for fucks sake!

It factually does when those specific three people literally tried to murder the individual in question.

so what you’re saying is that Kyle was just walking down the street minding his own business with a semi automatic weapon… and no one had the right to defend themselves against him?

That is what open carry means, sweetheart. If he is not threatening anyone then no they do not have a right to attack him. If someone does attack him, and they did, then, yes, he can fully legally shoot if he reasonably feels his life is in danger.

Given that Ziminski was armed and fired at least two rounds after declaring his intent to kill Kyle then how was that not an imminent threat? Granted Kiminsky later ran away after he accidently shot Rosenbaum in the back. It is certainly an imminent danger if someone tries to take your rifle away especially if they just previously had aannounced their intent to kill you. That is well established case law.

Huber attacked Kyle with a deadly weapon and, yes, there have been dozens of cases of people dying by being bludgeoned with a skateboard and that is before we mention the violent mob some of whom were armed and shouting "kill him". So again it seems reasonable to fear imminent harm. Grosskreutz had a 9mm pistol in his hand and was pointing it at Kyle so obvious imminent danger there. Especially since Grosskreutz later said his intent was to shoot Kyle in the head.

 

[Oerdin]

Do you carry a gun around

It was tragic that Kyle had to defend himself but he did nothing wrong. The other guy was just sucked at his job and though race baiting would make him too popular to fire. He was wrong as well as a racist piece of shit.

It is amazing how you always manage to get everything wrong.

Do you carry a gun around?

Not regularly. The last time I regularly carried a gun around was in Iraq. I do own one, know how to use it properly, and practice 3-4 times a year. Given that night was the second night of riots, arson, looting, and violence I can certainly understand why locals would want to be armed. That is only prudent.

Too many idiots carrying guns around in the US.

Places like Switzerland gun ownership is high but many of those people spent time in the military learning to fire and store weapons properly.

The requirements on citizens should be many times more stringent than a trained soldier or military vet.

They dont let anyone get a flying license so why is the States so lenient on gun ownership?

You obviously didn't see how much of an excellent shot Kyle was

so was that other wannabe cop… the Zimmerman slob

here we go... on the merry go round

anything to avoid discussing the merits of this case

Wait… so you mean you want to discuss the “merit” of a case where the trial of the minor accused is going to be held in a state where it is against the law for children to carry weapons….

it’s a slam dunk case where I stand.

Well, don't forget - According to him it was his JOB to DEFEND that property.
Even though he was authorized by no one to do so.

Notice how Fairyday1881 tiptoes away from his original supposition that it was anyone other than one of his fellow cretins that introduced Malcomn into the thread

lolz

this is like shooting fish in a barrel

a friendly bed and then mapping out numerous stipulations AFTER I said yes #SMH

Do you carry a gun around

It was tragic that Kyle had to defend himself but he did nothing wrong. The other guy was just sucked at his job and though race baiting would make him too popular to fire. He was wrong as well as a racist piece of shit.

It is amazing how you always manage to get everything wrong.

Do you carry a gun around?

Not regularly. The last time I regularly carried a gun around was in Iraq. I do own one, know how to use it properly, and practice 3-4 times a year. Given that night was the second night of riots, arson, looting, and violence I can certainly understand why locals would want to be armed. That is only prudent.

Too many idiots carrying guns around in the US.

Places like Switzerland gun ownership is high but many of those people spent time in the military learning to fire and store weapons properly.

The requirements on citizens should be many times more stringent than a trained soldier or military vet.

They dont let anyone get a flying license so why is the States so lenient on gun ownership?

You obviously didn't see how much of an excellent shot Kyle was

so was that other wannabe cop… the Zimmerman slob

here we go... on the merry go round

anything to avoid discussing the merits of this case

Wait… so you mean you want to discuss the “merit” of a case where the trial of the minor accused is going to be held in a state where it is against the law for children to carry weapons….

it’s a slam dunk case where I stand.

Well, don't forget - According to him it was his JOB to DEFEND that property.
Even though he was authorized by no one to do so.

The Constitution does. We have the right to defend private property.

He was asked by the owners.

You know what no one has a right to do? Attack a community of innocent people, destroy property and violently attack people. But all that is okay to you people.....you are just mad that someone defended themselves.

All these bullshit imaginary "rules" that gives these mobs all these specail rights to destroy communities and murder people.....but completely disempowers anyone from protecting the community or thier own bodies.

Such hateful garbage. You are just a mindless hateful apologists of domestic terror. It takes an abnormal, brainwashed amount of hate to defend political violence being inflicted on totally innocent people.

I hope it happens to you guys. I really do. I would LOVE to see riots on YOUR street. See how much you support "justice" when it's a member of YOUR family being drug out of a car and beaten. Or chased by rioters with weapons. You guys enjoy this as long as it happens to communities you just dont fucking care about. None of you give a genuine fuck about anything unless it happens to you.

OMFG this is painful. You do not have the right to defend property with a gun. Some states have questionable law (unclear) pertaining to the home being burned to the ground and being able to protect yourself from that happening since your life would technically be endangered.

You have the right to protect yourself using deadly force while in your home ONLY if your life is threatened.

Murdy, this is a serious question. Do you not understand that people attacked Kyle physically, minutes after threatening to kill him, and that they were the first to fire a gun?

We aren't talking about property here. Also, no, the right to self defense is not restricted only to your home. All three people who got shot physically attacked Kyle before he defended himself.

Why was he there to begin with?

Sure, and that also was perfectly legal. Just as it was legal for out of state protester to be there. What was illegal is when Antifa/BLM started rioting, looting, and attempting to murder people.

It was actually illegal for a minor to be carrying a deadly weapon.

Again. As the judge himself has said the law is contradictory and unclear. He is still officially considering dismissing that charge prior to trial. Even if so, which is probably not true, we are only talking about a misdemeanor with a $25 fine.

 

[Dove]

The right to protect yourself from imminent danger does NOT enable you to interject yourself in a riot with a semi automatic weapon and kill people for fucks sake!

It factually does when those specific three people literally tried to murder the individual in question.

so what you’re saying is that Kyle was just walking down the street minding his own business with a semi automatic weapon… and no one had the right to defend themselves against him?

That is what open carry means, sweetheart. If he is not threatening anyone then no they do not have a right to attack him. If someone does attack him, and they did, then, yes, he can fully legally shoot if he reasonably feels his life is in danger.

Given that Ziminski was armed and fired at least two rounds after declaring his intent to kill Kyle then how was that not an imminent threat? Granted Kiminsky later ran away after he accidently shot Rosenbaum in the back. It is certainly an imminent danger if someone tries to take your rifle away especially if they just previously had aannounced their intent to kill you. That is well established case law.

Huber attacked Kyle with a deadly weapon and, yes, there have been dozens of cases of people dying by being bludgeoned with a skateboard and that is before we mention the violent mob some of whom were armed and shouting "kill him". So again it seems reasonable to fear imminent harm. Grosskreutz had a 9mm pistol in his hand and was pointing it at Kyle so obvious imminent danger there. Especially since Grosskreutz later said his intent was to shoot Kyle in the head.

First she says vigilante justice is illegal. When she thinks it applies to Kyle.

Now shes defending scum bag criminals chasing a kid down to disarm him in some show of vigilante justice and excusing that.

So she thinks anyone can just run up on you, basically. If I have my gun, rando people are now entitled to attack me. But vigilante justice is bad.

Unless she can pretend her "side" is doing it.

They own everything. Peoples property. Peoples bodies. Peoples rights.....all decided by leftwing fucktards. In thier lala land.

How fucking entitled lol.

You go after someone like that? They have the right to shoot you. End. Dont want to eat led? Dont chase a fleeing armed person.

 

[Murdy]

The right to protect yourself from imminent danger does NOT enable you to interject yourself in a riot with a semi automatic weapon and kill people for fucks sake!

It factually does when those specific three people literally tried to murder the individual in question.

so what you’re saying is that Kyle was just walking down the street minding his own business with a semi automatic weapon… and no one had the right to defend themselves against him?

That is what open carry means, sweetheart. If he is not threatening anyone then no they do not have a right to attack him. If someone does attack him, and they did, then, yes, he can fully legally shoot if he reasonably feels his life is in danger.

Given that Ziminski was armed and fired at least two rounds after declaring his intent to kill Kyle then how was that not an imminent threat? Granted Kiminsky later ran away after he accidently shot Rosenbaum in the back. It is certainly an imminent danger if someone tries to take your rifle away especially if they just previously had aannounced their intent to kill you. That is well established case law.

Huber attacked Kyle with a deadly weapon and, yes, there have been dozens of cases of people dying by being bludgeoned with a skateboard and that is before we mention the violent mob some of whom were armed and shouting "kill him". So again it seems reasonable to fear imminent harm. Grosskreutz had a 9mm pistol in his hand and was pointing it at Kyle so obvious imminent danger there. Especially since Grosskreutz later said his intent was to shoot Kyle in the head.

First she says vigilante justice is illegal. When she thinks it applies to Kyle.

Now shes defending scum bag criminals chasing a kid down to disarm him in some show of vigilante justice and excusing that.

So she thinks anyone can just run up on you, basically. If I have my gun, rando people are now entitled to attack me. But vigilante justice is bad.

Unless she can pretend her "side" is doing it.

They own everything. Peoples property. Peoples bodies. Peoples rights.....all decided by leftwing fucktards. In thier lala land.

How fucking entitled lol.

You go after someone like that? They have the right to shoot you. End. Dont want to eat led? Dont chase a fleeing armed person.

I have always maintained that vigilante justice is against the law in all instances…

Lucky for us, not knowing the law isn’t a plausible defense.

 

[Murdy]

Do you carry a gun around

It was tragic that Kyle had to defend himself but he did nothing wrong. The other guy was just sucked at his job and though race baiting would make him too popular to fire. He was wrong as well as a racist piece of shit.

It is amazing how you always manage to get everything wrong.

Do you carry a gun around?

Not regularly. The last time I regularly carried a gun around was in Iraq. I do own one, know how to use it properly, and practice 3-4 times a year. Given that night was the second night of riots, arson, looting, and violence I can certainly understand why locals would want to be armed. That is only prudent.

Too many idiots carrying guns around in the US.

Places like Switzerland gun ownership is high but many of those people spent time in the military learning to fire and store weapons properly.

The requirements on citizens should be many times more stringent than a trained soldier or military vet.

They dont let anyone get a flying license so why is the States so lenient on gun ownership?

You obviously didn't see how much of an excellent shot Kyle was

so was that other wannabe cop… the Zimmerman slob

here we go... on the merry go round

anything to avoid discussing the merits of this case

Wait… so you mean you want to discuss the “merit” of a case where the trial of the minor accused is going to be held in a state where it is against the law for children to carry weapons….

it’s a slam dunk case where I stand.

Well, don't forget - According to him it was his JOB to DEFEND that property.
Even though he was authorized by no one to do so.

Notice how Fairyday1881 tiptoes away from his original supposition that it was anyone other than one of his fellow cretins that introduced Malcomn into the thread

lolz

this is like shooting fish in a barrel

a friendly bed and then mapping out numerous stipulations AFTER I said yes #SMH

Do you carry a gun around

It was tragic that Kyle had to defend himself but he did nothing wrong. The other guy was just sucked at his job and though race baiting would make him too popular to fire. He was wrong as well as a racist piece of shit.

It is amazing how you always manage to get everything wrong.

Do you carry a gun around?

Not regularly. The last time I regularly carried a gun around was in Iraq. I do own one, know how to use it properly, and practice 3-4 times a year. Given that night was the second night of riots, arson, looting, and violence I can certainly understand why locals would want to be armed. That is only prudent.

Too many idiots carrying guns around in the US.

Places like Switzerland gun ownership is high but many of those people spent time in the military learning to fire and store weapons properly.

The requirements on citizens should be many times more stringent than a trained soldier or military vet.

They dont let anyone get a flying license so why is the States so lenient on gun ownership?

You obviously didn't see how much of an excellent shot Kyle was

so was that other wannabe cop… the Zimmerman slob

here we go... on the merry go round

anything to avoid discussing the merits of this case

Wait… so you mean you want to discuss the “merit” of a case where the trial of the minor accused is going to be held in a state where it is against the law for children to carry weapons….

it’s a slam dunk case where I stand.

Well, don't forget - According to him it was his JOB to DEFEND that property.
Even though he was authorized by no one to do so.

The Constitution does. We have the right to defend private property.

He was asked by the owners.

You know what no one has a right to do? Attack a community of innocent people, destroy property and violently attack people. But all that is okay to you people.....you are just mad that someone defended themselves.

All these bullshit imaginary "rules" that gives these mobs all these specail rights to destroy communities and murder people.....but completely disempowers anyone from protecting the community or thier own bodies.

Such hateful garbage. You are just a mindless hateful apologists of domestic terror. It takes an abnormal, brainwashed amount of hate to defend political violence being inflicted on totally innocent people.

I hope it happens to you guys. I really do. I would LOVE to see riots on YOUR street. See how much you support "justice" when it's a member of YOUR family being drug out of a car and beaten. Or chased by rioters with weapons. You guys enjoy this as long as it happens to communities you just dont fucking care about. None of you give a genuine fuck about anything unless it happens to you.

OMFG this is painful. You do not have the right to defend property with a gun. Some states have questionable law (unclear) pertaining to the home being burned to the ground and being able to protect yourself from that happening since your life would technically be endangered.

You have the right to protect yourself using deadly force while in your home ONLY if your life is threatened.

Murdy, this is a serious question. Do you not understand that people attacked Kyle physically, minutes after threatening to kill him, and that they were the first to fire a gun?

We aren't talking about property here. Also, no, the right to self defense is not restricted only to your home. All three people who got shot physically attacked Kyle before he defended himself.

Why was he there to begin with?

Sure, and that also was perfectly legal. Just as it was legal for out of state protester to be there. What was illegal is when Antifa/BLM started rioting, looting, and attempting to murder people.

It was actually illegal for a minor to be carrying a deadly weapon.

Again. As the judge himself has said the law is contradictory and unclear. He is still officially considering dismissing that charge prior to trial. Even if so, which is probably not true, we are only talking about a misdemeanor with a $25 fine.

Even if you remove the charge of open carry… you still have murder in the first.

All that charge does is compile damages 3x for the victims.

 

[Oerdin]

Kenosha car dealer denies he asked gunmen to protect his business
A Kenosha car dealer said Thursday he never asked a band of riflemen to guard one of his businesses the night of two fatal shootings, contesting a narrative the accused gunman's attorney told on Fox News.
Rittenhouse, of Antioch, Illinois, almost immediately became a cause célèbre among conservatives and gun rights advocates. His new attorney, John Pierce of Los Angeles, told Fox News' Tucker Carlson that Rittenhouse acted in clear self-defense because the three victims had chased and were trying to disarm and hurt him.
In telling the story, Pierce repeated a storyline already popular in social media, that the group of rifle-toting men Rittenhouse was with that night had been asked by the owner of a damaged business to protect what he had left.
But the co-owner of Car Source said Thursday he didn't hire the men, ask for their help or endorse it.
"Why would I?" Anmol Khindri said, in an interview with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. "I'm already burned out. There was nothing left to protect."
Khindri said when he left the area Tuesday around the time of the curfew — 9 p.m. that night — he did not authorize people to be on his roof or remember seeing gunmen there.

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He is trying to evade liability now. He knows this is going to turn into a wrongful death claim.

I want to see the contract.
Someone must have captured it before the Deep State took it down offa places.

If he actually employed them, the business is now liable for everything they did.

He was never a paid employee and supposedly he called Kyle to ask him and his group to watch his businesses. Supposedly the phone records also show this phone call took place according to Kyle's defense attorney. I could see the Indian-American owner later wanting to back track and deny Given possible legal liability, the fact that he is now bankrupt after his business and $2.5 million in stock (which he did not own but financed on credit), and Antifa thugs are threatening him and his family. Also his insurance denied him payment claiming riot damage was not covered by his policy.

 

[Murdy]

Well…. that concludes my lecture today on teaching dipshits how to law. I’m hopeful their cut and paste atrocities will be followed up with a lengthy reading assignment tonight trying to prove me wrong.

I’ll catch you all on the flip side of this electric chair switch!

 

[Murdy]

Kenosha car dealer denies he asked gunmen to protect his business
A Kenosha car dealer said Thursday he never asked a band of riflemen to guard one of his businesses the night of two fatal shootings, contesting a narrative the accused gunman's attorney told on Fox News.
Rittenhouse, of Antioch, Illinois, almost immediately became a cause célèbre among conservatives and gun rights advocates. His new attorney, John Pierce of Los Angeles, told Fox News' Tucker Carlson that Rittenhouse acted in clear self-defense because the three victims had chased and were trying to disarm and hurt him.
In telling the story, Pierce repeated a storyline already popular in social media, that the group of rifle-toting men Rittenhouse was with that night had been asked by the owner of a damaged business to protect what he had left.
But the co-owner of Car Source said Thursday he didn't hire the men, ask for their help or endorse it.
"Why would I?" Anmol Khindri said, in an interview with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. "I'm already burned out. There was nothing left to protect."
Khindri said when he left the area Tuesday around the time of the curfew — 9 p.m. that night — he did not authorize people to be on his roof or remember seeing gunmen there.

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He is trying to evade liability now. He knows this is going to turn into a wrongful death claim.

I want to see the contract.
Someone must have captured it before the Deep State took it down offa places.

If he actually employed them, the business is now liable for everything they did.

He was never a paid employee and supposedly he called Kyle to ask him and his group to watch his businesses. Supposedly the phone records also show this phone call took place according to Kyle's defense attorney. I could see the Indian-American owner later wanting to back track and deny Given possible legal liability, the fact that he is now bankrupt after his business and $2.5 million in stock (which he did not own but financed on credit), and Antifa thugs are threatening him and his family. Also his insurance denied him payment claiming riot damage was not covered by his policy.

then your issues are with Republicans who own and write these BS insurance policies

 

[Oerdin]

Do you carry a gun around

It was tragic that Kyle had to defend himself but he did nothing wrong. The other guy was just sucked at his job and though race baiting would make him too popular to fire. He was wrong as well as a racist piece of shit.

It is amazing how you always manage to get everything wrong.

Do you carry a gun around?

Not regularly. The last time I regularly carried a gun around was in Iraq. I do own one, know how to use it properly, and practice 3-4 times a year. Given that night was the second night of riots, arson, looting, and violence I can certainly understand why locals would want to be armed. That is only prudent.

Too many idiots carrying guns around in the US.

Places like Switzerland gun ownership is high but many of those people spent time in the military learning to fire and store weapons properly.

The requirements on citizens should be many times more stringent than a trained soldier or military vet.

They dont let anyone get a flying license so why is the States so lenient on gun ownership?

You obviously didn't see how much of an excellent shot Kyle was

so was that other wannabe cop… the Zimmerman slob

here we go... on the merry go round

anything to avoid discussing the merits of this case

Wait… so you mean you want to discuss the “merit” of a case where the trial of the minor accused is going to be held in a state where it is against the law for children to carry weapons….

it’s a slam dunk case where I stand.

Well, don't forget - According to him it was his JOB to DEFEND that property.
Even though he was authorized by no one to do so.

Notice how Fairyday1881 tiptoes away from his original supposition that it was anyone other than one of his fellow cretins that introduced Malcomn into the thread

lolz

this is like shooting fish in a barrel

a friendly bed and then mapping out numerous stipulations AFTER I said yes #SMH

Do you carry a gun around

It was tragic that Kyle had to defend himself but he did nothing wrong. The other guy was just sucked at his job and though race baiting would make him too popular to fire. He was wrong as well as a racist piece of shit.

It is amazing how you always manage to get everything wrong.

Do you carry a gun around?

Not regularly. The last time I regularly carried a gun around was in Iraq. I do own one, know how to use it properly, and practice 3-4 times a year. Given that night was the second night of riots, arson, looting, and violence I can certainly understand why locals would want to be armed. That is only prudent.

Too many idiots carrying guns around in the US.

Places like Switzerland gun ownership is high but many of those people spent time in the military learning to fire and store weapons properly.

The requirements on citizens should be many times more stringent than a trained soldier or military vet.

They dont let anyone get a flying license so why is the States so lenient on gun ownership?

You obviously didn't see how much of an excellent shot Kyle was

so was that other wannabe cop… the Zimmerman slob

here we go... on the merry go round

anything to avoid discussing the merits of this case

Wait… so you mean you want to discuss the “merit” of a case where the trial of the minor accused is going to be held in a state where it is against the law for children to carry weapons….

it’s a slam dunk case where I stand.

Well, don't forget - According to him it was his JOB to DEFEND that property.
Even though he was authorized by no one to do so.

The Constitution does. We have the right to defend private property.

He was asked by the owners.

You know what no one has a right to do? Attack a community of innocent people, destroy property and violently attack people. But all that is okay to you people.....you are just mad that someone defended themselves.

All these bullshit imaginary "rules" that gives these mobs all these specail rights to destroy communities and murder people.....but completely disempowers anyone from protecting the community or thier own bodies.

Such hateful garbage. You are just a mindless hateful apologists of domestic terror. It takes an abnormal, brainwashed amount of hate to defend political violence being inflicted on totally innocent people.

I hope it happens to you guys. I really do. I would LOVE to see riots on YOUR street. See how much you support "justice" when it's a member of YOUR family being drug out of a car and beaten. Or chased by rioters with weapons. You guys enjoy this as long as it happens to communities you just dont fucking care about. None of you give a genuine fuck about anything unless it happens to you.

OMFG this is painful. You do not have the right to defend property with a gun. Some states have questionable law (unclear) pertaining to the home being burned to the ground and being able to protect yourself from that happening since your life would technically be endangered.

You have the right to protect yourself using deadly force while in your home ONLY if your life is threatened.

Murdy, this is a serious question. Do you not understand that people attacked Kyle physically, minutes after threatening to kill him, and that they were the first to fire a gun?

We aren't talking about property here. Also, no, the right to self defense is not restricted only to your home. All three people who got shot physically attacked Kyle before he defended himself.

Why was he there to begin with?

Sure, and that also was perfectly legal. Just as it was legal for out of state protester to be there. What was illegal is when Antifa/BLM started rioting, looting, and attempting to murder people.

It was actually illegal for a minor to be carrying a deadly weapon.

Again. As the judge himself has said the law is contradictory and unclear. He is still officially considering dismissing that charge prior to trial. Even if so, which is probably not true, we are only talking about a misdemeanor with a $25 fine.

Even if you remove the charge of open carry… you still have murder in the first.

All that charge does is compile damages 3x for the victims.

From what I heard the prosecutions whole case is to try to claim Kyle illegally had a weapon so it is some how his fault that people attacked him and tried to murder him. That he some how no longer had a right to self defense. I just don't see a jury buying that especially over a $25 misdemeanor (which the judge still might dismiss: he said he is currently considering dismissal of that charge).

Given the weight of more than 20 primary videos of events, how Kyle retreated and attempted to avoid confrontation every chance he got, that the original two attackers earlier threatened to kill Kyle for simply putting out a dumpster fire which they wanted to push into a gas station to destroy the gas station... Well, it is obvious who the attackers are and whobwas the defender. Just like it is obvious who shot first and who attacked Kyle while he simply tried to flee and stay away from his would be murderers.

It all flows from that. Also remember Ziminski, the man who fired a gun first, who was with Rosenbaum, who shouted (again on video and backed up by several witnesses) "Get him!" to Rosenbaum... Rosenbaum then immediately ran at and attacked Kyle trying to grab his gun. It is not just Kyle who says this but two other witnesses as well. It is a pretty strong case for self defense when faced with imminent great bodily harm or death.

 

[Holliday1881]

and supposedly..

Ironclad defense there. It's all over, Murdock. No point arguing further.

 

[Holliday1881]

From what I heard

There you have it.....

Case closed !

 

[Dove]

and supposedly..

Ironclad defense there. It's all over, Murdock. No point arguing further.

Truest shit you've ever said.

Actual arguments would help....JS.

 

[Dove]

From what I heard

There you have it.....

Case closed !

Oh so its NOT the prosecution's whole case that because Kyle had a gun he had no right to defend himself?

Is Os statement WRONG?

What is the prosecution's case?

 

[Oerdin]

Hell, it is doubtful Kyle even killed Rosenbaum. Other than graze wounds there were only two shots which entered Rosenbaum's body. A 5.56mm which entered his groin area and shattered his pelvis and a 9mm shot to the back which hit vital organs. Kyle had a 5.56mm so the groin shot was his but no vital organs which would cause immediate death there. The 9mm which hit Rosenbaum in the back probably killed him and Ziminski fired that one.

So the dumb ass accidently shot his own Antifa buddy in the back. Kyle fired three rounds of 5.56mm. One appears to have grazed Rosenbaum's extended right hand and then grazed the right side of Rosenbaum's head, another grazed Rosenbaum's leg, and the last hit Rosenbaum's groin area. The killing shot, the shot that left Rosenbaum dead less than a minute later was the 9mm shot to the back when went through several vital organs.

Oh, and Kiminski is the guy on tape telling people to kill Kyle right after that shooting. Ironic given that Ziminski actually is probably the one who shot and killed Rosenbaum. Still, Ziminski successfully incited the Antifa mob to attack Kyle again while Kyle freedom towards the police for protection.

 

[Oerdin]

Kenosha car dealer denies he asked gunmen to protect his business
A Kenosha car dealer said Thursday he never asked a band of riflemen to guard one of his businesses the night of two fatal shootings, contesting a narrative the accused gunman's attorney told on Fox News.
Rittenhouse, of Antioch, Illinois, almost immediately became a cause célèbre among conservatives and gun rights advocates. His new attorney, John Pierce of Los Angeles, told Fox News' Tucker Carlson that Rittenhouse acted in clear self-defense because the three victims had chased and were trying to disarm and hurt him.
In telling the story, Pierce repeated a storyline already popular in social media, that the group of rifle-toting men Rittenhouse was with that night had been asked by the owner of a damaged business to protect what he had left.
But the co-owner of Car Source said Thursday he didn't hire the men, ask for their help or endorse it.
"Why would I?" Anmol Khindri said, in an interview with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. "I'm already burned out. There was nothing left to protect."
Khindri said when he left the area Tuesday around the time of the curfew — 9 p.m. that night — he did not authorize people to be on his roof or remember seeing gunmen there.

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He is trying to evade liability now. He knows this is going to turn into a wrongful death claim.

I want to see the contract.
Someone must have captured it before the Deep State took it down offa places.

If he actually employed them, the business is now liable for everything they did.

He was never a paid employee and supposedly he called Kyle to ask him and his group to watch his businesses. Supposedly the phone records also show this phone call took place according to Kyle's defense attorney. I could see the Indian-American owner later wanting to back track and deny Given possible legal liability, the fact that he is now bankrupt after his business and $2.5 million in stock (which he did not own but financed on credit), and Antifa thugs are threatening him and his family. Also his insurance denied him payment claiming riot damage was not covered by his policy.

then your issues are with Republicans who own and write these BS insurance policies

Both parties really.