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think of the possibility of a better/fair contract and what that would mean to workers/players/and their families
not getting the support for studios over talent in this thread ;,(
 

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Aside from its influence on the world of fashion, Hollywood doesn't set the tone; on the contrary, it merely mirrors leading edge social developments (and only once the risk to producers' pockets of doing so has diminished substantially). Hollywood gives, and has always given, people exactly what they want. For every Harmony Korine, there are fifty Michael Bays. For every John Waters, fifty Steven Spielbergs.

Neil Breen, Tommy Wiseau, Ed Wood Jr., Uwe Boll, and their ilk are the true pioneers of Hollywood.

The industry is, just like the video games industry, trying to recoup the losses it incurs when it releases an endless stream of B-grade product by choosing to market said product as AAA.

That being said, and with all due respect to folks holding the positions listed in the minutes-long credits rolling up the screen at the end of a film (both before and after any MCU-like teaser snippet), it all starts with an idea or a set of ideas. Ideas are the stock and trade of writers. Without ideas, a director can't direct shit, a producer can't produce shit, a DP can't lens shit, nor can anyone else attached to the project do shit. Writing is the backbone of any entertainment product. Whatever ego-driven hacks like @Omnipotent think of it, writing--i.e., writing something people actually want to read or to pay for--is damned hard (cf. Barton Fink).

Protecting IP is not just a matter of concern to the suits who put up the money for the development of that IP, but to those who come up with it in the first place. The livelihood of writers is now threatened by the unconscionable use of (otherwise soulless) AI to replace the crafters of ideas with machine-like generators of generic, trope-laden drivel and by the unwillingness of moneymen to compensate writers for their ideas despite the fact said moneymen continue to line their pockets with the fruits of those ideas far into the future.

George Lucas once infamously claimed that, if the technology ever arose that would allow him to dispense with pesky actors altogether, he would jump at the chance to use it in a heartbeat. Writers (whom many Hollywood suits, directors included) consider at least as "pesky" as actors, are now faced with the same bullshit creativity-killing attitudes.

Do I miss my late-night hosts? Sure. Do I miss them enough to pine for them to return to the air à la Drew Barrymore by sacrificing those teams of creatives that made these comedians wealthy and famous in the first place? Absolutely not. I like my Colbert, Myers, et al. but I like them for the words coming out of their mouths. And those words belong to someone else.

I'll stand with the WGA for however long it takes writers to get a fair shake.
 
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Aside from its influence on the world of fashion, Hollywood doesn't set the tone; on the contrary, it merely mirrors leading edge social developments (and only once the risk to producers' pockets of doing so has diminished substantially). Hollywood gives, and has always given, people exactly what they want. For every Harmony Korine, there are fifty Michael Bays. For every John Waters, fifty Steven Spielbergs.

Neil Breen, Tommy Wiseau, Ed Wood Jr., Uwe Boll, and their ilk are the true pioneers of Hollywood.

The industry is, just like the video games industry, trying to recoup the losses it incurs when it releases an endless stream of B-grade product by choosing to market said product as AAA.

That being said, and with all due respect to folks holding the positions listed in the minutes-long credits rolling up the screen at the end of a film (both before and after any MCU-like teaser snippet), it all starts with an idea or a set of ideas. Ideas are the stock and trade of writers. Without ideas, a director can't direct shit, a producer can't produce shit, a DP can't lens shit, nor can anyone else attached to the project do shit. Writing is the backbone of any entertainment product. Whatever ego-driven hacks like @Omnipotent think of it, writing--i.e., writing something people actually want to read or to pay for--is damned hard (cf. Barton Fink).

Protecting IP is not just a matter of concern to the suits who put up the money for the development of that IP, but to those who come up with it in the first place. The livelihood of writers is now threatened by the unconscionable use of (otherwise soulless) AI to replace the crafters of ideas with machine-like generators of generic, trope-laden drivel and by the unwillingness of moneymen to compensate writers for their ideas despite the fact said moneymen continue to line their pockets with the fruits of those ideas far into the future.

George Lucas once infamously claimed that, if the technology ever arose that would allow him to dispense with pesky actors altogether, he would jump at the chance to use it in a heartbeat. Writers (whom many Hollywood suits, directors included) consider at least as "pesky" as actors, are now faced with the same bullshit creativity-killing attitudes.

Do I miss my late-night hosts? Sure. Do I miss them enough to pine for them to return to the air à la Drew Barrymore by sacrificing those teams of creatives that made these comedians wealthy and famous in the first place? Absolutely not. I like my Colbert, Myers, et al. but I like them for the words coming out of their mouths. And those words belong to someone else.

I'll stand with the WGA for however long it takes writers to get a fair shake.

On one hand, you point out that the product is "B Grade".

Then on the other hand, you praise the writers.

The "B Grade" product starts with "B Grade" material created by these writers.

AI is not threatening their jobs. It is their own incompetence.
 

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Aside from its influence on the world of fashion, Hollywood doesn't set the tone; on the contrary, it merely mirrors leading edge social developments (and only once the risk to producers' pockets of doing so has diminished substantially). Hollywood gives, and has always given, people exactly what they want. For every Harmony Korine, there are fifty Michael Bays. For every John Waters, fifty Steven Spielbergs.

Neil Breen, Tommy Wiseau, Ed Wood Jr., Uwe Boll, and their ilk are the true pioneers of Hollywood.

The industry is, just like the video games industry, trying to recoup the losses it incurs when it releases an endless stream of B-grade product by choosing to market said product as AAA.

That being said, and with all due respect to folks holding the positions listed in the minutes-long credits rolling up the screen at the end of a film (both before and after any MCU-like teaser snippet), it all starts with an idea or a set of ideas. Ideas are the stock and trade of writers. Without ideas, a director can't direct shit, a producer can't produce shit, a DP can't lens shit, nor can anyone else attached to the project do shit. Writing is the backbone of any entertainment product. Whatever ego-driven hacks like @Omnipotent think of it, writing--i.e., writing something people actually want to read or to pay for--is damned hard (cf. Barton Fink).

Protecting IP is not just a matter of concern to the suits who put up the money for the development of that IP, but to those who come up with it in the first place. The livelihood of writers is now threatened by the unconscionable use of (otherwise soulless) AI to replace the crafters of ideas with machine-like generators of generic, trope-laden drivel and by the unwillingness of moneymen to compensate writers for their ideas despite the fact said moneymen continue to line their pockets with the fruits of those ideas far into the future.

George Lucas once infamously claimed that, if the technology ever arose that would allow him to dispense with pesky actors altogether, he would jump at the chance to use it in a heartbeat. Writers (whom many Hollywood suits, directors included) consider at least as "pesky" as actors, are now faced with the same bullshit creativity-killing attitudes.

Do I miss my late-night hosts? Sure. Do I miss them enough to pine for them to return to the air à la Drew Barrymore by sacrificing those teams of creatives that made these comedians wealthy and famous in the first place? Absolutely not. I like my Colbert, Myers, et al. but I like them for the words coming out of their mouths. And those words belong to someone else.

I'll stand with the WGA for however long it takes writers to get a fair shake.
Did George Lucas say "pesky actors" when he was just starting out or was it after years of dealing with A listers who have contract riders with silly shit like needing their own toilet seats and no one else on set can look them in the eye?

You see where I am going?

You're saying people should be paid for what they are worth and I'm saying assholes gonna asshole.

There is a difference.
 
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Between the actor's strike and all of the insufferable Woke movies haphazardly manufactured by women and faggots have made the industry overdue for collapse. You still wanna sit in a theatre with a loud, popcorn-chomping fat ass sitting in a seat next to you right before the shitshow you actually even paid for starts? The seat you chose may have just been left by a smelly minority whose oils and sweat you'll be absorbing while you shamelessly watch She Hulk, or that Rings disaster.

Now, I don't like any of you here, but you're all shining beacons of tolerability compared to the disgusting trash Disney (and other disgraceful corporations [I guess?]) has been putting out. I wouldn't know anything about that but there are many hilarious YT videos about them. All of which are far more fun to watch instead of the catastrophes they clown. I'm pretty sure whoever is reading this knows far more about the movies and current situation in Hollywood than I do or care to.

The greedy suckage has even seeped into the video game industry. I just saw something about Fortnite ruining the game, and I sorta hope King Martini hasn't lost his lust for life in the real world or that damn game. Seriously. The same happened to the Diablo series but I know you don't give a fuck so I'll shut up about all that shit.

Porn bores me by now. Live murders bore me by now. You fucks are somehow more interesting when you tell us all how badly you need new chairs because you spend so much time on your computers. I still play basketball at a close park, I still drunkenly text every bitch on my Contact list who hasn't deleted and blocked me yet. Yet.

Are there any new great books out now? I wouldn't know because they're heavy and the print is small. I don't even own a bookmark. I guess there are tons of acclaimed books I need to read, but they're all too goddamn long, like this post...



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- The music industry still rocks tho!!!
 

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The music industry?

The music industry has a bad rap.

It’s classic. They better jazz things up in there or something’s gonna pop. Swing by later; maybe the country (& western hemisphere) has gone progressive but surely that’s not enough to give anyone the blues? The music scene today is a goddamn soap opera.
 

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People with money who want nothing more than to make more money are banes to our existence. The right celebrate their innovation while the left decry their subjugation.

Fun fact... Both are accurate!

Growth & expansion are fraught with indifference.

An opinion stands alone & apart from anything & everything.

It IS the elephant in the room. That which makes the room unique.
 

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There you go again, shamelessly plugging the Swingin' Sailor... although it makes a change from plugging your asshole, I guess.

How is your gay BDSM fetish club doing in these difficult economic times? I assume your recent trip to San Fagdisco was on business?
 

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The guidelines are in place for writers industry standard.

The actors are back too.

My kid has been going at it 150 mph with her hair on fire for weeks and I took her laptop and sent her to bed early tonight so she can get some rest.
 

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