"The levant belongs to Israel!" "No it belongs to Palestine!"

[Kingoffrogs]

Whatever happened to land belonging to whoever conquers it?

Land doesn't "belong" to any particular group of people just because they inhabited it previously.

whether designated as a group by ethnicity, language, culture, etc, at the end of the day, a plot of land is owned by whoever occupies/governs it.

"But... but the 2 kingdoms of Israel! Da jewz where there 4 ever! And... And da twelve tribes, folx!"

Yes, they where. Then the levant was conquered by the Romans. After that the Byzantines held it, until the Rashidun, Umayyad, and Abbasid caliphates conquered it. Then it was held by mamluks, and then ottomans, etc.

It is utterly pointless to argue that a specific group of people are entitled to a plot of land just because they at one time inhabited it.

 

[Admin.]

Well sure, but just not America. America was made by and for us real Americans!

 

[Kingoffrogs]

Well sure, but just not America. America was made by and for us real Americans!

Made for REEL AMERIKANS, NOT fake ones!

 

[Admin.]

Made for REEL AMERIKANS, NOT fake ones!

Fuckin' A!

 

[The New Holliday]

Whatever happened to land belonging to whoever conquers it?

Land doesn't "belong" to any particular group of people just because they inhabited it previously.

whether designated as a group by ethnicity, language, culture, etc, at the end of the day, a plot of land is owned by whoever occupies/governs it.

Precisely, and that has been noted many times, and why I don't understand so many objections to Jews being lords of the land of palestine - which they are. It's just the way human history works.

 

[The New Holliday]

Oh, and since the statement was, the Levant belongs to Palestine, when are all of those artificially created muslim nations going to return it to palestine? LoLz

 

[The Prowler]

Whatever happened to land belonging to whoever conquers it?

 

[Lily]

Precisely, and that has been noted many times, and why I don't understand so many objections to Jews being lords of the land of palestine - which they are. It's just the way human history works.

They didn't conquer it. The Europeans gave it to them.

Also, we are in an era of international laws

If we want to go back to conquest, what might the future hold?

More world wars.

 

[The Prowler]

They didn't conquer it. The Europeans gave it to them.

Also, we are in an era of international laws

If we want to go back to conquest, what might the future hold?

More world wars.

 

[Garraty_47]

 

[Lily]

Best vocaroo ever!

They aren't a "democracy". They are a Jewish Supremacist state and will never afford those that live among them human rights or dignity. Fuck 'em, indeed.

 

[The Prowler]

Best vocaroo ever!

They aren't a "democracy". They are a Jewish Supremacist state and will never afford those that live among them human rights or dignity. Fuck 'em, indeed.

 

[Garraty_47]

 

[The New Holliday]

They didn't conquer it. The Europeans gave it to them.

Also, we are in an era of international laws

If we want to go back to conquest, what might the future hold?

More world wars.

Sure thing, Hatshitspoop.

 

[Lily]

Sure thing, Hatshitspoop.

Go fuck yourself, butcher apologist.

You take this very personally. I wonder if you're a Zionist or related to one.

 

[The New Holliday]

Go fuck yourself, butcher apologist.

You take this very personally. I wonder if you're a Zionist or related to one.

I'm not even Jewish, I just like a well rounded "discussion" is all.

 

[Lily]

I'm not even Jewish, I just like a well rounded "discussion" is all.

You don't deny being related to one.

 

[The New Holliday]

You don't deny being related to one.

Yeah I do. Don't know a single one.
...in fact what I find interesting is how personally you all seem to take it. As I said, I could argue "your side" far more effectively than you people do.

 

[Lily]

Yeah I do. Don't know a single one.

You are a liar.

 

[The New Holliday]

You are a liar.

Really? PROVE IT. Why do you think that? Clearly articulate your theory.

 

[Lily]

Really? PROVE IT. Why do you think that? Clearly articulate your theory.

Probably your postings for over a dozen years.

 

[The New Holliday]

Probably your postings for over a dozen years.

Link? ....or, more relevantly - you got zippo. Which is what I thought.

 

[Lily]

Link? ....or, more relevantly - you got zippo. Which is what I thought.

You're a clown. I know.

 

[The New Holliday]

You're a clown. I know.

When you make an accusation, shouldn't you have support evidence, Hatshitzbutt (Queen of derrrrNilez)?
.. I mean, I would be on much firmer ground saying you hate whitey and see Jews as white so...Israel baaaad..

 

[Lily]

When you make an accusation, shouldn't you have support evidence, Hatshitzbutt (Queen of derrrrNilez)?
.. I mean, I would be on much firmer ground saying you hate whitey and see Jews as white so...Israel baaaad..

But I don't advocate for the slaughter of Whites like you do Muslims.

Not once.

 

[The New Holliday]

But I don't advocate for the slaughter of Whites like you do Muslims.

Not once.

So you say.....but your posts over the past dozen and a half years say otherwise.
.. 3rdly - disliking muslims does not equate to liking Jews etc etc.
..and I still am waiting for the specifics, the support for your theory. Details, Cleophatra. Details.

PS: I know that in your black and white world that disliking one means liking the other, only it really doesn't.
You lack "noir" in the cinematic sense.

 

[Marvin]

genocide? cool word. i'm all for it.. for like 90% of the world's population. the 10% earned the right to be alive and free to do whatever they please

 

[The New Holliday]

genocide? cool word. i'm all for it.. for like 90% of the world's population. the 10% earned the right to be alive and free to do whatever they please

It is awesome, and considering that we are all one race there is no genocide if a man is left standing. Werd, Marv.

 

[Kingoffrogs]

They also have relied on support from the USA and UK for a large portion of their wars since they gained independece from the British Empire.

Before the modern israeli state and british occupation, the levant was ruled by islamic nations for around 600 YEARS STRAIGHT.

 

[The New Holliday]

They also have relied on support from the USA and UK for a large portion of their wars since they gained independece from the British Empire.

Before the modern israeli state and british occupation, the levant was ruled by islamic nations for around 600 YEARS STRAIGHT.

...and? really nothing in geologic time, neither much in anthropologic time.
Not the first time pointed out - 55K years ago in "palestine" Neandethals were overwhelmed by "out of Africa" types who were so incurious as to have taken 200K years to say: Hey what's over there? Let's go take a look.?