Will the Texas Abortion Laws lead to an Increase of Teen Suicides in that State?

[Murdy]

Because some of them might see it as the only way out of their situations? And a lot of these girls come from troubled environments & broken homes.

Something tells me this law won't end well for many. Instead of saving lives it may end causing more deaths including the unborn child.

Anyways just a thought.

I disagree. I think it will lead to an increase in adoption. It’s a pregnancy, not the end of the world.

we already have solid statistics on unwanted pregnancy that confirms only 4% are adopted


It is much more likely that these women will end up on welfare and fall down a dismal hole of poverty that leads to drug use… and the child will inevitably become abused/neglected and end up in part of the already horrific child services system.

NO THANKS!

I think, if adoption was more affordable, and the government/state gave more incentives to parents wanting to adopt, instead of incentives to abort, it would make the world a better place.

If a pregnancy is unwanted, there are plenty of precautions to take beforehand, the "day after", or even in the first couple months.

The state will support abortion because they recognize that women with children on welfare remain on welfare and then create a child who will then rely on welfare. It’s a vicious cycle that we refer to as welfare raised in Cali.

Adoptions are expensive because there is a legal relinquishing and awarding of rights that is an extensive process. Also, I don’t know many people who are willing to pay that kind of money for the undesirable unborn child of an obviously unfit mother.

Honestly, if you’re against abortion don’t have one and don’t ever ask a woman to have one. It’s that simple.

I have never had one and I never will.

I was "welfare raised". It made me not want to raise a kid like that, made me want to work harder.

I dont support my state's abortion laws. They allow a fully born child to be aborted on the table. They "will keep the child comfy til the mother decides". This is a law that just happened in the past couple years. This year, they took away the requirement that the parents have to hear the heartbeat before deciding to abort. Monsters.

I think any abortion after the first trimester is murder.

Yes, the adoption process is long and expensive, which is why a lot of parents that want to adopt, cant. Me being one of those parents.

Its the same way for the Mexicans that want to come here legally. Process is long and expensive, so they go another route.

Too much fucking red tape, and greed.

And SELFISH MOTHERFUCKERS!

I don’t condone that. Up to 14 weeks for anyone regardless of circumstances is all I will back and that’s just because of health issues and it’s so ass backwards here that most men are able to bail and have zero responsibility.

Most of these women wouldn’t qualify to give up their children in a private addition. A decent family isn’t going to want to risk issues with a state adoption either.

I’m proof that having an unplanned child out of wedlock doesn’t work even if you get married. I had my daughter at 18 (I was on the pill) and sacrificed 12 years of my life in a failing marriage to save my children from a single parent household.

We need to go back to focusing on a healthy marriage before children are considered.

14 weeks sounds about right to me.

My mom and dad got married early, when she was 15. I was born the month after she turned 16. They got divorced when I was 1, and I went to live with my great grandparents and my great aunt til I was 5.

I did not want my son to grow up without both parents either. Certain things happened though (she cheated, then got cancer and died).

Totally agree! Healthy marriage! Thats what is wrong with a lot of these young adults today, they were not parented properly.

damn… you’ve been through A LOT!

 

[Blazor]

Because some of them might see it as the only way out of their situations? And a lot of these girls come from troubled environments & broken homes.

Something tells me this law won't end well for many. Instead of saving lives it may end causing more deaths including the unborn child.

Anyways just a thought.

I disagree. I think it will lead to an increase in adoption. It’s a pregnancy, not the end of the world.

we already have solid statistics on unwanted pregnancy that confirms only 4% are adopted


It is much more likely that these women will end up on welfare and fall down a dismal hole of poverty that leads to drug use… and the child will inevitably become abused/neglected and end up in part of the already horrific child services system.

NO THANKS!

I think, if adoption was more affordable, and the government/state gave more incentives to parents wanting to adopt, instead of incentives to abort, it would make the world a better place.

If a pregnancy is unwanted, there are plenty of precautions to take beforehand, the "day after", or even in the first couple months.

The state will support abortion because they recognize that women with children on welfare remain on welfare and then create a child who will then rely on welfare. It’s a vicious cycle that we refer to as welfare raised in Cali.

Adoptions are expensive because there is a legal relinquishing and awarding of rights that is an extensive process. Also, I don’t know many people who are willing to pay that kind of money for the undesirable unborn child of an obviously unfit mother.

Honestly, if you’re against abortion don’t have one and don’t ever ask a woman to have one. It’s that simple.

I have never had one and I never will.

I was "welfare raised". It made me not want to raise a kid like that, made me want to work harder.

I dont support my state's abortion laws. They allow a fully born child to be aborted on the table. They "will keep the child comfy til the mother decides". This is a law that just happened in the past couple years. This year, they took away the requirement that the parents have to hear the heartbeat before deciding to abort. Monsters.

I think any abortion after the first trimester is murder.

Yes, the adoption process is long and expensive, which is why a lot of parents that want to adopt, cant. Me being one of those parents.

Its the same way for the Mexicans that want to come here legally. Process is long and expensive, so they go another route.

Too much fucking red tape, and greed.

And SELFISH MOTHERFUCKERS!

I don’t condone that. Up to 14 weeks for anyone regardless of circumstances is all I will back and that’s just because of health issues and it’s so ass backwards here that most men are able to bail and have zero responsibility.

Most of these women wouldn’t qualify to give up their children in a private addition. A decent family isn’t going to want to risk issues with a state adoption either.

I’m proof that having an unplanned child out of wedlock doesn’t work even if you get married. I had my daughter at 18 (I was on the pill) and sacrificed 12 years of my life in a failing marriage to save my children from a single parent household.

We need to go back to focusing on a healthy marriage before children are considered.

14 weeks sounds about right to me.

My mom and dad got married early, when she was 15. I was born the month after she turned 16. They got divorced when I was 1, and I went to live with my great grandparents and my great aunt til I was 5.

I did not want my son to grow up without both parents either. Certain things happened though (she cheated, then got cancer and died).

Totally agree! Healthy marriage! Thats what is wrong with a lot of these young adults today, they were not parented properly.

damn… you’ve been through A LOT!

Lol, you have NO idea!! lol

 

[Murdy]

Because some of them might see it as the only way out of their situations? And a lot of these girls come from troubled environments & broken homes.

Something tells me this law won't end well for many. Instead of saving lives it may end causing more deaths including the unborn child.

Anyways just a thought.

I disagree. I think it will lead to an increase in adoption. It’s a pregnancy, not the end of the world.

we already have solid statistics on unwanted pregnancy that confirms only 4% are adopted


It is much more likely that these women will end up on welfare and fall down a dismal hole of poverty that leads to drug use… and the child will inevitably become abused/neglected and end up in part of the already horrific child services system.

NO THANKS!

I think, if adoption was more affordable, and the government/state gave more incentives to parents wanting to adopt, instead of incentives to abort, it would make the world a better place.

If a pregnancy is unwanted, there are plenty of precautions to take beforehand, the "day after", or even in the first couple months.

The state will support abortion because they recognize that women with children on welfare remain on welfare and then create a child who will then rely on welfare. It’s a vicious cycle that we refer to as welfare raised in Cali.

Adoptions are expensive because there is a legal relinquishing and awarding of rights that is an extensive process. Also, I don’t know many people who are willing to pay that kind of money for the undesirable unborn child of an obviously unfit mother.

Honestly, if you’re against abortion don’t have one and don’t ever ask a woman to have one. It’s that simple.

I have never had one and I never will.

I was "welfare raised". It made me not want to raise a kid like that, made me want to work harder.

I dont support my state's abortion laws. They allow a fully born child to be aborted on the table. They "will keep the child comfy til the mother decides". This is a law that just happened in the past couple years. This year, they took away the requirement that the parents have to hear the heartbeat before deciding to abort. Monsters.

I think any abortion after the first trimester is murder.

Yes, the adoption process is long and expensive, which is why a lot of parents that want to adopt, cant. Me being one of those parents.

Its the same way for the Mexicans that want to come here legally. Process is long and expensive, so they go another route.

Too much fucking red tape, and greed.

And SELFISH MOTHERFUCKERS!

I don’t condone that. Up to 14 weeks for anyone regardless of circumstances is all I will back and that’s just because of health issues and it’s so ass backwards here that most men are able to bail and have zero responsibility.

Most of these women wouldn’t qualify to give up their children in a private addition. A decent family isn’t going to want to risk issues with a state adoption either.

I’m proof that having an unplanned child out of wedlock doesn’t work even if you get married. I had my daughter at 18 (I was on the pill) and sacrificed 12 years of my life in a failing marriage to save my children from a single parent household.

We need to go back to focusing on a healthy marriage before children are considered.

14 weeks sounds about right to me.

My mom and dad got married early, when she was 15. I was born the month after she turned 16. They got divorced when I was 1, and I went to live with my great grandparents and my great aunt til I was 5.

I did not want my son to grow up without both parents either. Certain things happened though (she cheated, then got cancer and died).

Totally agree! Healthy marriage! Thats what is wrong with a lot of these young adults today, they were not parented properly.

damn… you’ve been through A LOT!

Lol, you have NO idea!! lol

my parents were young too… my mom was 15 and my dad was 17 when they met and they were married in January 77 and I came into the world that following May… my paternal grandmother, who was a virgin on her wedding night, swears I was conceived on a beach and hated my mother.

My mom is only 20 years older than me and she went though a horrific depression when they divorced when I was 8.

 

[Blazor]

Because some of them might see it as the only way out of their situations? And a lot of these girls come from troubled environments & broken homes.

Something tells me this law won't end well for many. Instead of saving lives it may end causing more deaths including the unborn child.

Anyways just a thought.

I disagree. I think it will lead to an increase in adoption. It’s a pregnancy, not the end of the world.

we already have solid statistics on unwanted pregnancy that confirms only 4% are adopted


It is much more likely that these women will end up on welfare and fall down a dismal hole of poverty that leads to drug use… and the child will inevitably become abused/neglected and end up in part of the already horrific child services system.

NO THANKS!

I think, if adoption was more affordable, and the government/state gave more incentives to parents wanting to adopt, instead of incentives to abort, it would make the world a better place.

If a pregnancy is unwanted, there are plenty of precautions to take beforehand, the "day after", or even in the first couple months.

The state will support abortion because they recognize that women with children on welfare remain on welfare and then create a child who will then rely on welfare. It’s a vicious cycle that we refer to as welfare raised in Cali.

Adoptions are expensive because there is a legal relinquishing and awarding of rights that is an extensive process. Also, I don’t know many people who are willing to pay that kind of money for the undesirable unborn child of an obviously unfit mother.

Honestly, if you’re against abortion don’t have one and don’t ever ask a woman to have one. It’s that simple.

I have never had one and I never will.

I was "welfare raised". It made me not want to raise a kid like that, made me want to work harder.

I dont support my state's abortion laws. They allow a fully born child to be aborted on the table. They "will keep the child comfy til the mother decides". This is a law that just happened in the past couple years. This year, they took away the requirement that the parents have to hear the heartbeat before deciding to abort. Monsters.

I think any abortion after the first trimester is murder.

Yes, the adoption process is long and expensive, which is why a lot of parents that want to adopt, cant. Me being one of those parents.

Its the same way for the Mexicans that want to come here legally. Process is long and expensive, so they go another route.

Too much fucking red tape, and greed.

And SELFISH MOTHERFUCKERS!

I don’t condone that. Up to 14 weeks for anyone regardless of circumstances is all I will back and that’s just because of health issues and it’s so ass backwards here that most men are able to bail and have zero responsibility.

Most of these women wouldn’t qualify to give up their children in a private addition. A decent family isn’t going to want to risk issues with a state adoption either.

I’m proof that having an unplanned child out of wedlock doesn’t work even if you get married. I had my daughter at 18 (I was on the pill) and sacrificed 12 years of my life in a failing marriage to save my children from a single parent household.

We need to go back to focusing on a healthy marriage before children are considered.

14 weeks sounds about right to me.

My mom and dad got married early, when she was 15. I was born the month after she turned 16. They got divorced when I was 1, and I went to live with my great grandparents and my great aunt til I was 5.

I did not want my son to grow up without both parents either. Certain things happened though (she cheated, then got cancer and died).

Totally agree! Healthy marriage! Thats what is wrong with a lot of these young adults today, they were not parented properly.

damn… you’ve been through A LOT!

Lol, you have NO idea!! lol

my parents were young too… my mom was 15 and my dad was 17 when they met and they were married in January 77 and I came into the world that following May… my paternal grandmother, who was a virgin on her wedding night, swears I was conceived on a beach and hated my mother.

My mom is only 20 years older than me and she went though a horrific depression when they divorced when I was 8.

If you were born in '77, you're barely half a year younger than me lol. Lets see, you're mom was born in '57, mine in '60. You on a beach, I was conceived on a boat! lol

My mom went through a lot too. I had a few stepdads that were assholes. The last one that was with my mom, contributed to her suicide/murder when she was 40.

 

[Murdy]

Because some of them might see it as the only way out of their situations? And a lot of these girls come from troubled environments & broken homes.

Something tells me this law won't end well for many. Instead of saving lives it may end causing more deaths including the unborn child.

Anyways just a thought.

I disagree. I think it will lead to an increase in adoption. It’s a pregnancy, not the end of the world.

we already have solid statistics on unwanted pregnancy that confirms only 4% are adopted


It is much more likely that these women will end up on welfare and fall down a dismal hole of poverty that leads to drug use… and the child will inevitably become abused/neglected and end up in part of the already horrific child services system.

NO THANKS!

I think, if adoption was more affordable, and the government/state gave more incentives to parents wanting to adopt, instead of incentives to abort, it would make the world a better place.

If a pregnancy is unwanted, there are plenty of precautions to take beforehand, the "day after", or even in the first couple months.

The state will support abortion because they recognize that women with children on welfare remain on welfare and then create a child who will then rely on welfare. It’s a vicious cycle that we refer to as welfare raised in Cali.

Adoptions are expensive because there is a legal relinquishing and awarding of rights that is an extensive process. Also, I don’t know many people who are willing to pay that kind of money for the undesirable unborn child of an obviously unfit mother.

Honestly, if you’re against abortion don’t have one and don’t ever ask a woman to have one. It’s that simple.

I have never had one and I never will.

I was "welfare raised". It made me not want to raise a kid like that, made me want to work harder.

I dont support my state's abortion laws. They allow a fully born child to be aborted on the table. They "will keep the child comfy til the mother decides". This is a law that just happened in the past couple years. This year, they took away the requirement that the parents have to hear the heartbeat before deciding to abort. Monsters.

I think any abortion after the first trimester is murder.

Yes, the adoption process is long and expensive, which is why a lot of parents that want to adopt, cant. Me being one of those parents.

Its the same way for the Mexicans that want to come here legally. Process is long and expensive, so they go another route.

Too much fucking red tape, and greed.

And SELFISH MOTHERFUCKERS!

I don’t condone that. Up to 14 weeks for anyone regardless of circumstances is all I will back and that’s just because of health issues and it’s so ass backwards here that most men are able to bail and have zero responsibility.

Most of these women wouldn’t qualify to give up their children in a private addition. A decent family isn’t going to want to risk issues with a state adoption either.

I’m proof that having an unplanned child out of wedlock doesn’t work even if you get married. I had my daughter at 18 (I was on the pill) and sacrificed 12 years of my life in a failing marriage to save my children from a single parent household.

We need to go back to focusing on a healthy marriage before children are considered.

14 weeks sounds about right to me.

My mom and dad got married early, when she was 15. I was born the month after she turned 16. They got divorced when I was 1, and I went to live with my great grandparents and my great aunt til I was 5.

I did not want my son to grow up without both parents either. Certain things happened though (she cheated, then got cancer and died).

Totally agree! Healthy marriage! Thats what is wrong with a lot of these young adults today, they were not parented properly.

damn… you’ve been through A LOT!

Lol, you have NO idea!! lol

my parents were young too… my mom was 15 and my dad was 17 when they met and they were married in January 77 and I came into the world that following May… my paternal grandmother, who was a virgin on her wedding night, swears I was conceived on a beach and hated my mother.

My mom is only 20 years older than me and she went though a horrific depression when they divorced when I was 8.

If you were born in '77, you're barely half a year younger than me lol. Lets see, you're mom was born in '57, mine in '60. You on a beach, I was conceived on a boat! lol

My mom went through a lot too. I had a few stepdads that were assholes. The last one that was with my mom, contributed to her suicide/murder when she was 40.

omg I’m so sorry

 

[Murdy]

Because some of them might see it as the only way out of their situations? And a lot of these girls come from troubled environments & broken homes.

Something tells me this law won't end well for many. Instead of saving lives it may end causing more deaths including the unborn child.

Anyways just a thought.

I disagree. I think it will lead to an increase in adoption. It’s a pregnancy, not the end of the world.

we already have solid statistics on unwanted pregnancy that confirms only 4% are adopted


It is much more likely that these women will end up on welfare and fall down a dismal hole of poverty that leads to drug use… and the child will inevitably become abused/neglected and end up in part of the already horrific child services system.

NO THANKS!

I think, if adoption was more affordable, and the government/state gave more incentives to parents wanting to adopt, instead of incentives to abort, it would make the world a better place.

If a pregnancy is unwanted, there are plenty of precautions to take beforehand, the "day after", or even in the first couple months.

The state will support abortion because they recognize that women with children on welfare remain on welfare and then create a child who will then rely on welfare. It’s a vicious cycle that we refer to as welfare raised in Cali.

Adoptions are expensive because there is a legal relinquishing and awarding of rights that is an extensive process. Also, I don’t know many people who are willing to pay that kind of money for the undesirable unborn child of an obviously unfit mother.

Honestly, if you’re against abortion don’t have one and don’t ever ask a woman to have one. It’s that simple.

I have never had one and I never will.

I was "welfare raised". It made me not want to raise a kid like that, made me want to work harder.

I dont support my state's abortion laws. They allow a fully born child to be aborted on the table. They "will keep the child comfy til the mother decides". This is a law that just happened in the past couple years. This year, they took away the requirement that the parents have to hear the heartbeat before deciding to abort. Monsters.

I think any abortion after the first trimester is murder.

Yes, the adoption process is long and expensive, which is why a lot of parents that want to adopt, cant. Me being one of those parents.

Its the same way for the Mexicans that want to come here legally. Process is long and expensive, so they go another route.

Too much fucking red tape, and greed.

And SELFISH MOTHERFUCKERS!

I don’t condone that. Up to 14 weeks for anyone regardless of circumstances is all I will back and that’s just because of health issues and it’s so ass backwards here that most men are able to bail and have zero responsibility.

Most of these women wouldn’t qualify to give up their children in a private addition. A decent family isn’t going to want to risk issues with a state adoption either.

I’m proof that having an unplanned child out of wedlock doesn’t work even if you get married. I had my daughter at 18 (I was on the pill) and sacrificed 12 years of my life in a failing marriage to save my children from a single parent household.

We need to go back to focusing on a healthy marriage before children are considered.

14 weeks sounds about right to me.

My mom and dad got married early, when she was 15. I was born the month after she turned 16. They got divorced when I was 1, and I went to live with my great grandparents and my great aunt til I was 5.

I did not want my son to grow up without both parents either. Certain things happened though (she cheated, then got cancer and died).

Totally agree! Healthy marriage! Thats what is wrong with a lot of these young adults today, they were not parented properly.

damn… you’ve been through A LOT!

Lol, you have NO idea!! lol

my parents were young too… my mom was 15 and my dad was 17 when they met and they were married in January 77 and I came into the world that following May… my paternal grandmother, who was a virgin on her wedding night, swears I was conceived on a beach and hated my mother.

My mom is only 20 years older than me and she went though a horrific depression when they divorced when I was 8.

If you were born in '77, you're barely half a year younger than me lol. Lets see, you're mom was born in '57, mine in '60. You on a beach, I was conceived on a boat! lol

that’s funny that we have this in common lol

you’re the first straight male libra I encountered… I liked your qualities enough that I went out and found one of my own

 

[Blazor]

Because some of them might see it as the only way out of their situations? And a lot of these girls come from troubled environments & broken homes.

Something tells me this law won't end well for many. Instead of saving lives it may end causing more deaths including the unborn child.

Anyways just a thought.

I disagree. I think it will lead to an increase in adoption. It’s a pregnancy, not the end of the world.

we already have solid statistics on unwanted pregnancy that confirms only 4% are adopted


It is much more likely that these women will end up on welfare and fall down a dismal hole of poverty that leads to drug use… and the child will inevitably become abused/neglected and end up in part of the already horrific child services system.

NO THANKS!

I think, if adoption was more affordable, and the government/state gave more incentives to parents wanting to adopt, instead of incentives to abort, it would make the world a better place.

If a pregnancy is unwanted, there are plenty of precautions to take beforehand, the "day after", or even in the first couple months.

The state will support abortion because they recognize that women with children on welfare remain on welfare and then create a child who will then rely on welfare. It’s a vicious cycle that we refer to as welfare raised in Cali.

Adoptions are expensive because there is a legal relinquishing and awarding of rights that is an extensive process. Also, I don’t know many people who are willing to pay that kind of money for the undesirable unborn child of an obviously unfit mother.

Honestly, if you’re against abortion don’t have one and don’t ever ask a woman to have one. It’s that simple.

I have never had one and I never will.

I was "welfare raised". It made me not want to raise a kid like that, made me want to work harder.

I dont support my state's abortion laws. They allow a fully born child to be aborted on the table. They "will keep the child comfy til the mother decides". This is a law that just happened in the past couple years. This year, they took away the requirement that the parents have to hear the heartbeat before deciding to abort. Monsters.

I think any abortion after the first trimester is murder.

Yes, the adoption process is long and expensive, which is why a lot of parents that want to adopt, cant. Me being one of those parents.

Its the same way for the Mexicans that want to come here legally. Process is long and expensive, so they go another route.

Too much fucking red tape, and greed.

And SELFISH MOTHERFUCKERS!

I don’t condone that. Up to 14 weeks for anyone regardless of circumstances is all I will back and that’s just because of health issues and it’s so ass backwards here that most men are able to bail and have zero responsibility.

Most of these women wouldn’t qualify to give up their children in a private addition. A decent family isn’t going to want to risk issues with a state adoption either.

I’m proof that having an unplanned child out of wedlock doesn’t work even if you get married. I had my daughter at 18 (I was on the pill) and sacrificed 12 years of my life in a failing marriage to save my children from a single parent household.

We need to go back to focusing on a healthy marriage before children are considered.

14 weeks sounds about right to me.

My mom and dad got married early, when she was 15. I was born the month after she turned 16. They got divorced when I was 1, and I went to live with my great grandparents and my great aunt til I was 5.

I did not want my son to grow up without both parents either. Certain things happened though (she cheated, then got cancer and died).

Totally agree! Healthy marriage! Thats what is wrong with a lot of these young adults today, they were not parented properly.

damn… you’ve been through A LOT!

Lol, you have NO idea!! lol

my parents were young too… my mom was 15 and my dad was 17 when they met and they were married in January 77 and I came into the world that following May… my paternal grandmother, who was a virgin on her wedding night, swears I was conceived on a beach and hated my mother.

My mom is only 20 years older than me and she went though a horrific depression when they divorced when I was 8.

If you were born in '77, you're barely half a year younger than me lol. Lets see, you're mom was born in '57, mine in '60. You on a beach, I was conceived on a boat! lol

My mom went through a lot too. I had a few stepdads that were assholes. The last one that was with my mom, contributed to her suicide/murder when she was 40.

omg I’m so sorry

Thanks, its ok, like I said, you have no idea lol.

 

[Blazor]

Because some of them might see it as the only way out of their situations? And a lot of these girls come from troubled environments & broken homes.

Something tells me this law won't end well for many. Instead of saving lives it may end causing more deaths including the unborn child.

Anyways just a thought.

I disagree. I think it will lead to an increase in adoption. It’s a pregnancy, not the end of the world.

we already have solid statistics on unwanted pregnancy that confirms only 4% are adopted


It is much more likely that these women will end up on welfare and fall down a dismal hole of poverty that leads to drug use… and the child will inevitably become abused/neglected and end up in part of the already horrific child services system.

NO THANKS!

I think, if adoption was more affordable, and the government/state gave more incentives to parents wanting to adopt, instead of incentives to abort, it would make the world a better place.

If a pregnancy is unwanted, there are plenty of precautions to take beforehand, the "day after", or even in the first couple months.

The state will support abortion because they recognize that women with children on welfare remain on welfare and then create a child who will then rely on welfare. It’s a vicious cycle that we refer to as welfare raised in Cali.

Adoptions are expensive because there is a legal relinquishing and awarding of rights that is an extensive process. Also, I don’t know many people who are willing to pay that kind of money for the undesirable unborn child of an obviously unfit mother.

Honestly, if you’re against abortion don’t have one and don’t ever ask a woman to have one. It’s that simple.

I have never had one and I never will.

I was "welfare raised". It made me not want to raise a kid like that, made me want to work harder.

I dont support my state's abortion laws. They allow a fully born child to be aborted on the table. They "will keep the child comfy til the mother decides". This is a law that just happened in the past couple years. This year, they took away the requirement that the parents have to hear the heartbeat before deciding to abort. Monsters.

I think any abortion after the first trimester is murder.

Yes, the adoption process is long and expensive, which is why a lot of parents that want to adopt, cant. Me being one of those parents.

Its the same way for the Mexicans that want to come here legally. Process is long and expensive, so they go another route.

Too much fucking red tape, and greed.

And SELFISH MOTHERFUCKERS!

I don’t condone that. Up to 14 weeks for anyone regardless of circumstances is all I will back and that’s just because of health issues and it’s so ass backwards here that most men are able to bail and have zero responsibility.

Most of these women wouldn’t qualify to give up their children in a private addition. A decent family isn’t going to want to risk issues with a state adoption either.

I’m proof that having an unplanned child out of wedlock doesn’t work even if you get married. I had my daughter at 18 (I was on the pill) and sacrificed 12 years of my life in a failing marriage to save my children from a single parent household.

We need to go back to focusing on a healthy marriage before children are considered.

14 weeks sounds about right to me.

My mom and dad got married early, when she was 15. I was born the month after she turned 16. They got divorced when I was 1, and I went to live with my great grandparents and my great aunt til I was 5.

I did not want my son to grow up without both parents either. Certain things happened though (she cheated, then got cancer and died).

Totally agree! Healthy marriage! Thats what is wrong with a lot of these young adults today, they were not parented properly.

damn… you’ve been through A LOT!

Lol, you have NO idea!! lol

my parents were young too… my mom was 15 and my dad was 17 when they met and they were married in January 77 and I came into the world that following May… my paternal grandmother, who was a virgin on her wedding night, swears I was conceived on a beach and hated my mother.

My mom is only 20 years older than me and she went though a horrific depression when they divorced when I was 8.

If you were born in '77, you're barely half a year younger than me lol. Lets see, you're mom was born in '57, mine in '60. You on a beach, I was conceived on a boat! lol

that’s funny that we have this in common lol

you’re the first straight male libra I encountered… I liked your qualities enough that I went out and found one of my own

Right!?

Lol, Im surprised you remembered!

Im actually a Scorpio born in a Libra cusp lol. I have the best traits of both!

 

[Breakfall]

Because some of them might see it as the only way out of their situations? And a lot of these girls come from troubled environments & broken homes.

Something tells me this law won't end well for many. Instead of saving lives it may end causing more deaths including the unborn child.

Anyways just a thought.

I disagree. I think it will lead to an increase in adoption. It’s a pregnancy, not the end of the world.

we already have solid statistics on unwanted pregnancy that confirms only 4% are adopted


It is much more likely that these women will end up on welfare and fall down a dismal hole of poverty that leads to drug use… and the child will inevitably become abused/neglected and end up in part of the already horrific child services system.

NO THANKS!

So much for fucking eh?

 

[Breakfall]

@Murdock ... American women enjoy dramatising everything.

 

[Murdy]

Because some of them might see it as the only way out of their situations? And a lot of these girls come from troubled environments & broken homes.

Something tells me this law won't end well for many. Instead of saving lives it may end causing more deaths including the unborn child.

Anyways just a thought.

I disagree. I think it will lead to an increase in adoption. It’s a pregnancy, not the end of the world.

we already have solid statistics on unwanted pregnancy that confirms only 4% are adopted


It is much more likely that these women will end up on welfare and fall down a dismal hole of poverty that leads to drug use… and the child will inevitably become abused/neglected and end up in part of the already horrific child services system.

NO THANKS!

I think, if adoption was more affordable, and the government/state gave more incentives to parents wanting to adopt, instead of incentives to abort, it would make the world a better place.

If a pregnancy is unwanted, there are plenty of precautions to take beforehand, the "day after", or even in the first couple months.

The state will support abortion because they recognize that women with children on welfare remain on welfare and then create a child who will then rely on welfare. It’s a vicious cycle that we refer to as welfare raised in Cali.

Adoptions are expensive because there is a legal relinquishing and awarding of rights that is an extensive process. Also, I don’t know many people who are willing to pay that kind of money for the undesirable unborn child of an obviously unfit mother.

Honestly, if you’re against abortion don’t have one and don’t ever ask a woman to have one. It’s that simple.

I have never had one and I never will.

I was "welfare raised". It made me not want to raise a kid like that, made me want to work harder.

I dont support my state's abortion laws. They allow a fully born child to be aborted on the table. They "will keep the child comfy til the mother decides". This is a law that just happened in the past couple years. This year, they took away the requirement that the parents have to hear the heartbeat before deciding to abort. Monsters.

I think any abortion after the first trimester is murder.

Yes, the adoption process is long and expensive, which is why a lot of parents that want to adopt, cant. Me being one of those parents.

Its the same way for the Mexicans that want to come here legally. Process is long and expensive, so they go another route.

Too much fucking red tape, and greed.

And SELFISH MOTHERFUCKERS!

I don’t condone that. Up to 14 weeks for anyone regardless of circumstances is all I will back and that’s just because of health issues and it’s so ass backwards here that most men are able to bail and have zero responsibility.

Most of these women wouldn’t qualify to give up their children in a private addition. A decent family isn’t going to want to risk issues with a state adoption either.

I’m proof that having an unplanned child out of wedlock doesn’t work even if you get married. I had my daughter at 18 (I was on the pill) and sacrificed 12 years of my life in a failing marriage to save my children from a single parent household.

We need to go back to focusing on a healthy marriage before children are considered.

14 weeks sounds about right to me.

My mom and dad got married early, when she was 15. I was born the month after she turned 16. They got divorced when I was 1, and I went to live with my great grandparents and my great aunt til I was 5.

I did not want my son to grow up without both parents either. Certain things happened though (she cheated, then got cancer and died).

Totally agree! Healthy marriage! Thats what is wrong with a lot of these young adults today, they were not parented properly.

damn… you’ve been through A LOT!

Lol, you have NO idea!! lol

my parents were young too… my mom was 15 and my dad was 17 when they met and they were married in January 77 and I came into the world that following May… my paternal grandmother, who was a virgin on her wedding night, swears I was conceived on a beach and hated my mother.

My mom is only 20 years older than me and she went though a horrific depression when they divorced when I was 8.

If you were born in '77, you're barely half a year younger than me lol. Lets see, you're mom was born in '57, mine in '60. You on a beach, I was conceived on a boat! lol

that’s funny that we have this in common lol

you’re the first straight male libra I encountered… I liked your qualities enough that I went out and found one of my own

Right!?

Lol, Im surprised you remembered!

Im actually a Scorpio born in a Libra cusp lol. I have the best traits of both!

Of course I remembered! I was living on Capital Hill going out dancing with my gubby (gay husband) and he was a Libra too when you told me… I was like I need to find one of these!!!!

 

[Breakfall]

Because some of them might see it as the only way out of their situations? And a lot of these girls come from troubled environments & broken homes.

Something tells me this law won't end well for many. Instead of saving lives it may end causing more deaths including the unborn child.

Anyways just a thought.

I disagree. I think it will lead to an increase in adoption. It’s a pregnancy, not the end of the world.

we already have solid statistics on unwanted pregnancy that confirms only 4% are adopted


It is much more likely that these women will end up on welfare and fall down a dismal hole of poverty that leads to drug use… and the child will inevitably become abused/neglected and end up in part of the already horrific child services system.

NO THANKS!

I think, if adoption was more affordable, and the government/state gave more incentives to parents wanting to adopt, instead of incentives to abort, it would make the world a better place.

If a pregnancy is unwanted, there are plenty of precautions to take beforehand, the "day after", or even in the first couple months.

The state will support abortion because they recognize that women with children on welfare remain on welfare and then create a child who will then rely on welfare. It’s a vicious cycle that we refer to as welfare raised in Cali.

Adoptions are expensive because there is a legal relinquishing and awarding of rights that is an extensive process. Also, I don’t know many people who are willing to pay that kind of money for the undesirable unborn child of an obviously unfit mother.

Honestly, if you’re against abortion don’t have one and don’t ever ask a woman to have one. It’s that simple.

I have never had one and I never will.

I was "welfare raised". It made me not want to raise a kid like that, made me want to work harder.

I dont support my state's abortion laws. They allow a fully born child to be aborted on the table. They "will keep the child comfy til the mother decides". This is a law that just happened in the past couple years. This year, they took away the requirement that the parents have to hear the heartbeat before deciding to abort. Monsters.

I think any abortion after the first trimester is murder.

Yes, the adoption process is long and expensive, which is why a lot of parents that want to adopt, cant. Me being one of those parents.

Its the same way for the Mexicans that want to come here legally. Process is long and expensive, so they go another route.

Too much fucking red tape, and greed.

And SELFISH MOTHERFUCKERS!

I don’t condone that. Up to 14 weeks for anyone regardless of circumstances is all I will back and that’s just because of health issues and it’s so ass backwards here that most men are able to bail and have zero responsibility.

Most of these women wouldn’t qualify to give up their children in a private addition. A decent family isn’t going to want to risk issues with a state adoption either.

I’m proof that having an unplanned child out of wedlock doesn’t work even if you get married. I had my daughter at 18 (I was on the pill) and sacrificed 12 years of my life in a failing marriage to save my children from a single parent household.

We need to go back to focusing on a healthy marriage before children are considered.

14 weeks sounds about right to me.

My mom and dad got married early, when she was 15. I was born the month after she turned 16. They got divorced when I was 1, and I went to live with my great grandparents and my great aunt til I was 5.

I did not want my son to grow up without both parents either. Certain things happened though (she cheated, then got cancer and died).

Totally agree! Healthy marriage! Thats what is wrong with a lot of these young adults today, they were not parented properly.

damn… you’ve been through A LOT!

Lol, you have NO idea!! lol

my parents were young too… my mom was 15 and my dad was 17 when they met and they were married in January 77 and I came into the world that following May… my paternal grandmother, who was a virgin on her wedding night, swears I was conceived on a beach and hated my mother.

My mom is only 20 years older than me and she went though a horrific depression when they divorced when I was 8.

If you were born in '77, you're barely half a year younger than me lol. Lets see, you're mom was born in '57, mine in '60. You on a beach, I was conceived on a boat! lol

that’s funny that we have this in common lol

you’re the first straight male libra I encountered… I liked your qualities enough that I went out and found one of my own

Right!?

Lol, Im surprised you remembered!

Im actually a Scorpio born in a Libra cusp lol. I have the best traits of both!

Of course I remembered! I was living on Capital Hill going out dancing with my gubby (gay husband) and he was a Libra too when you told me… I was like I need to find one of these!!!!

You were a token wife? WHHHHHHHY? This is not good.

 

[Murdy]

@Murdock ... American women enjoy dramatising everything.

we are 60% high fructose corn syrup estrogen psychos lol

 

[Murdy]

Because some of them might see it as the only way out of their situations? And a lot of these girls come from troubled environments & broken homes.

Something tells me this law won't end well for many. Instead of saving lives it may end causing more deaths including the unborn child.

Anyways just a thought.

I disagree. I think it will lead to an increase in adoption. It’s a pregnancy, not the end of the world.

we already have solid statistics on unwanted pregnancy that confirms only 4% are adopted


It is much more likely that these women will end up on welfare and fall down a dismal hole of poverty that leads to drug use… and the child will inevitably become abused/neglected and end up in part of the already horrific child services system.

NO THANKS!

I think, if adoption was more affordable, and the government/state gave more incentives to parents wanting to adopt, instead of incentives to abort, it would make the world a better place.

If a pregnancy is unwanted, there are plenty of precautions to take beforehand, the "day after", or even in the first couple months.

The state will support abortion because they recognize that women with children on welfare remain on welfare and then create a child who will then rely on welfare. It’s a vicious cycle that we refer to as welfare raised in Cali.

Adoptions are expensive because there is a legal relinquishing and awarding of rights that is an extensive process. Also, I don’t know many people who are willing to pay that kind of money for the undesirable unborn child of an obviously unfit mother.

Honestly, if you’re against abortion don’t have one and don’t ever ask a woman to have one. It’s that simple.

I have never had one and I never will.

I was "welfare raised". It made me not want to raise a kid like that, made me want to work harder.

I dont support my state's abortion laws. They allow a fully born child to be aborted on the table. They "will keep the child comfy til the mother decides". This is a law that just happened in the past couple years. This year, they took away the requirement that the parents have to hear the heartbeat before deciding to abort. Monsters.

I think any abortion after the first trimester is murder.

Yes, the adoption process is long and expensive, which is why a lot of parents that want to adopt, cant. Me being one of those parents.

Its the same way for the Mexicans that want to come here legally. Process is long and expensive, so they go another route.

Too much fucking red tape, and greed.

And SELFISH MOTHERFUCKERS!

I don’t condone that. Up to 14 weeks for anyone regardless of circumstances is all I will back and that’s just because of health issues and it’s so ass backwards here that most men are able to bail and have zero responsibility.

Most of these women wouldn’t qualify to give up their children in a private addition. A decent family isn’t going to want to risk issues with a state adoption either.

I’m proof that having an unplanned child out of wedlock doesn’t work even if you get married. I had my daughter at 18 (I was on the pill) and sacrificed 12 years of my life in a failing marriage to save my children from a single parent household.

We need to go back to focusing on a healthy marriage before children are considered.

14 weeks sounds about right to me.

My mom and dad got married early, when she was 15. I was born the month after she turned 16. They got divorced when I was 1, and I went to live with my great grandparents and my great aunt til I was 5.

I did not want my son to grow up without both parents either. Certain things happened though (she cheated, then got cancer and died).

Totally agree! Healthy marriage! Thats what is wrong with a lot of these young adults today, they were not parented properly.

damn… you’ve been through A LOT!

Lol, you have NO idea!! lol

my parents were young too… my mom was 15 and my dad was 17 when they met and they were married in January 77 and I came into the world that following May… my paternal grandmother, who was a virgin on her wedding night, swears I was conceived on a beach and hated my mother.

My mom is only 20 years older than me and she went though a horrific depression when they divorced when I was 8.

If you were born in '77, you're barely half a year younger than me lol. Lets see, you're mom was born in '57, mine in '60. You on a beach, I was conceived on a boat! lol

that’s funny that we have this in common lol

you’re the first straight male libra I encountered… I liked your qualities enough that I went out and found one of my own

Right!?

Lol, Im surprised you remembered!

Im actually a Scorpio born in a Libra cusp lol. I have the best traits of both!

Of course I remembered! I was living on Capital Hill going out dancing with my gubby (gay husband) and he was a Libra too when you told me… I was like I need to find one of these!!!!

You were a token wife? WHHHHHHHY? This is not good.

I was a fag hag, silly

 

[Breakfall]

Because some of them might see it as the only way out of their situations? And a lot of these girls come from troubled environments & broken homes.

Something tells me this law won't end well for many. Instead of saving lives it may end causing more deaths including the unborn child.

Anyways just a thought.

I disagree. I think it will lead to an increase in adoption. It’s a pregnancy, not the end of the world.

we already have solid statistics on unwanted pregnancy that confirms only 4% are adopted


It is much more likely that these women will end up on welfare and fall down a dismal hole of poverty that leads to drug use… and the child will inevitably become abused/neglected and end up in part of the already horrific child services system.

NO THANKS!

I think, if adoption was more affordable, and the government/state gave more incentives to parents wanting to adopt, instead of incentives to abort, it would make the world a better place.

If a pregnancy is unwanted, there are plenty of precautions to take beforehand, the "day after", or even in the first couple months.

The state will support abortion because they recognize that women with children on welfare remain on welfare and then create a child who will then rely on welfare. It’s a vicious cycle that we refer to as welfare raised in Cali.

Adoptions are expensive because there is a legal relinquishing and awarding of rights that is an extensive process. Also, I don’t know many people who are willing to pay that kind of money for the undesirable unborn child of an obviously unfit mother.

Honestly, if you’re against abortion don’t have one and don’t ever ask a woman to have one. It’s that simple.

I have never had one and I never will.

I was "welfare raised". It made me not want to raise a kid like that, made me want to work harder.

I dont support my state's abortion laws. They allow a fully born child to be aborted on the table. They "will keep the child comfy til the mother decides". This is a law that just happened in the past couple years. This year, they took away the requirement that the parents have to hear the heartbeat before deciding to abort. Monsters.

I think any abortion after the first trimester is murder.

Yes, the adoption process is long and expensive, which is why a lot of parents that want to adopt, cant. Me being one of those parents.

Its the same way for the Mexicans that want to come here legally. Process is long and expensive, so they go another route.

Too much fucking red tape, and greed.

And SELFISH MOTHERFUCKERS!

I don’t condone that. Up to 14 weeks for anyone regardless of circumstances is all I will back and that’s just because of health issues and it’s so ass backwards here that most men are able to bail and have zero responsibility.

Most of these women wouldn’t qualify to give up their children in a private addition. A decent family isn’t going to want to risk issues with a state adoption either.

I’m proof that having an unplanned child out of wedlock doesn’t work even if you get married. I had my daughter at 18 (I was on the pill) and sacrificed 12 years of my life in a failing marriage to save my children from a single parent household.

We need to go back to focusing on a healthy marriage before children are considered.

14 weeks sounds about right to me.

My mom and dad got married early, when she was 15. I was born the month after she turned 16. They got divorced when I was 1, and I went to live with my great grandparents and my great aunt til I was 5.

I did not want my son to grow up without both parents either. Certain things happened though (she cheated, then got cancer and died).

Totally agree! Healthy marriage! Thats what is wrong with a lot of these young adults today, they were not parented properly.

damn… you’ve been through A LOT!

Lol, you have NO idea!! lol

my parents were young too… my mom was 15 and my dad was 17 when they met and they were married in January 77 and I came into the world that following May… my paternal grandmother, who was a virgin on her wedding night, swears I was conceived on a beach and hated my mother.

My mom is only 20 years older than me and she went though a horrific depression when they divorced when I was 8.

If you were born in '77, you're barely half a year younger than me lol. Lets see, you're mom was born in '57, mine in '60. You on a beach, I was conceived on a boat! lol

that’s funny that we have this in common lol

you’re the first straight male libra I encountered… I liked your qualities enough that I went out and found one of my own

Right!?

Lol, Im surprised you remembered!

Im actually a Scorpio born in a Libra cusp lol. I have the best traits of both!

Of course I remembered! I was living on Capital Hill going out dancing with my gubby (gay husband) and he was a Libra too when you told me… I was like I need to find one of these!!!!

You were a token wife? WHHHHHHHY? This is not good.

I was a fag hag, silly

This is why liberalism is fucked! Poor choices...

 

[Breakfall]

@Murdock ... American women enjoy dramatising everything.

we are 60% high fructose corn syrup estrogen psychos lol

You really are a spoilt and naive nation.

 

[Murdy]

Because some of them might see it as the only way out of their situations? And a lot of these girls come from troubled environments & broken homes.

Something tells me this law won't end well for many. Instead of saving lives it may end causing more deaths including the unborn child.

Anyways just a thought.

I disagree. I think it will lead to an increase in adoption. It’s a pregnancy, not the end of the world.

we already have solid statistics on unwanted pregnancy that confirms only 4% are adopted


It is much more likely that these women will end up on welfare and fall down a dismal hole of poverty that leads to drug use… and the child will inevitably become abused/neglected and end up in part of the already horrific child services system.

NO THANKS!

I think, if adoption was more affordable, and the government/state gave more incentives to parents wanting to adopt, instead of incentives to abort, it would make the world a better place.

If a pregnancy is unwanted, there are plenty of precautions to take beforehand, the "day after", or even in the first couple months.

The state will support abortion because they recognize that women with children on welfare remain on welfare and then create a child who will then rely on welfare. It’s a vicious cycle that we refer to as welfare raised in Cali.

Adoptions are expensive because there is a legal relinquishing and awarding of rights that is an extensive process. Also, I don’t know many people who are willing to pay that kind of money for the undesirable unborn child of an obviously unfit mother.

Honestly, if you’re against abortion don’t have one and don’t ever ask a woman to have one. It’s that simple.

I have never had one and I never will.

I was "welfare raised". It made me not want to raise a kid like that, made me want to work harder.

I dont support my state's abortion laws. They allow a fully born child to be aborted on the table. They "will keep the child comfy til the mother decides". This is a law that just happened in the past couple years. This year, they took away the requirement that the parents have to hear the heartbeat before deciding to abort. Monsters.

I think any abortion after the first trimester is murder.

Yes, the adoption process is long and expensive, which is why a lot of parents that want to adopt, cant. Me being one of those parents.

Its the same way for the Mexicans that want to come here legally. Process is long and expensive, so they go another route.

Too much fucking red tape, and greed.

And SELFISH MOTHERFUCKERS!

I don’t condone that. Up to 14 weeks for anyone regardless of circumstances is all I will back and that’s just because of health issues and it’s so ass backwards here that most men are able to bail and have zero responsibility.

Most of these women wouldn’t qualify to give up their children in a private addition. A decent family isn’t going to want to risk issues with a state adoption either.

I’m proof that having an unplanned child out of wedlock doesn’t work even if you get married. I had my daughter at 18 (I was on the pill) and sacrificed 12 years of my life in a failing marriage to save my children from a single parent household.

We need to go back to focusing on a healthy marriage before children are considered.

14 weeks sounds about right to me.

My mom and dad got married early, when she was 15. I was born the month after she turned 16. They got divorced when I was 1, and I went to live with my great grandparents and my great aunt til I was 5.

I did not want my son to grow up without both parents either. Certain things happened though (she cheated, then got cancer and died).

Totally agree! Healthy marriage! Thats what is wrong with a lot of these young adults today, they were not parented properly.

damn… you’ve been through A LOT!

Lol, you have NO idea!! lol

my parents were young too… my mom was 15 and my dad was 17 when they met and they were married in January 77 and I came into the world that following May… my paternal grandmother, who was a virgin on her wedding night, swears I was conceived on a beach and hated my mother.

My mom is only 20 years older than me and she went though a horrific depression when they divorced when I was 8.

If you were born in '77, you're barely half a year younger than me lol. Lets see, you're mom was born in '57, mine in '60. You on a beach, I was conceived on a boat! lol

that’s funny that we have this in common lol

you’re the first straight male libra I encountered… I liked your qualities enough that I went out and found one of my own

Right!?

Lol, Im surprised you remembered!

Im actually a Scorpio born in a Libra cusp lol. I have the best traits of both!

Of course I remembered! I was living on Capital Hill going out dancing with my gubby (gay husband) and he was a Libra too when you told me… I was like I need to find one of these!!!!

You were a token wife? WHHHHHHHY? This is not good.

I was a fag hag, silly

This is why liberalism is fucked! Poor choices...

I needed to heal from my divorce and gay men were safe. It’s not my position to judge anyone nor is it my responsibility to make sure they are “saved” or make it into heaven.

I was the prettiest girl in HS (according to my boyfriend) and I get a lot of attention when I go clubbing. Straight men at clubs are PIGS. I look like I’m early 30s too. The gay boys swore I was in my late 20s… but they were all on coke lol

 

[Murdy]

@Murdock ... American women enjoy dramatising everything.

we are 60% high fructose corn syrup estrogen psychos lol

You really are a spoilt and naive nation.

I’m a spoiled brat and proud of it

 

[Breakfall]

@Murdock ... American women enjoy dramatising everything.

we are 60% high fructose corn syrup estrogen psychos lol

You really are a spoilt and naive nation.

I’m a spoiled brat and proud of it

Each to there own. Now excuse me dear, I need to do my ritual sword practice, have a coffee and some avocado on toast, and go hunting for some surf. Xx

 

[Murdy]

@Murdock ... American women enjoy dramatising everything.

we are 60% high fructose corn syrup estrogen psychos lol

You really are a spoilt and naive nation.

I’m a spoiled brat and proud of it

Each to there own. Now excuse me dear, I need to do my ritual sword practice, have a coffee and some avocado on toast, and go hunting for some surf. Xx

I’m my fathers only daughter… so it’s not my fault lol

Avocado on sourdough toast is my FAVE omg <3

 

[Blazor]

Because some of them might see it as the only way out of their situations? And a lot of these girls come from troubled environments & broken homes.

Something tells me this law won't end well for many. Instead of saving lives it may end causing more deaths including the unborn child.

Anyways just a thought.

I disagree. I think it will lead to an increase in adoption. It’s a pregnancy, not the end of the world.

we already have solid statistics on unwanted pregnancy that confirms only 4% are adopted


It is much more likely that these women will end up on welfare and fall down a dismal hole of poverty that leads to drug use… and the child will inevitably become abused/neglected and end up in part of the already horrific child services system.

NO THANKS!

I think, if adoption was more affordable, and the government/state gave more incentives to parents wanting to adopt, instead of incentives to abort, it would make the world a better place.

If a pregnancy is unwanted, there are plenty of precautions to take beforehand, the "day after", or even in the first couple months.

The state will support abortion because they recognize that women with children on welfare remain on welfare and then create a child who will then rely on welfare. It’s a vicious cycle that we refer to as welfare raised in Cali.

Adoptions are expensive because there is a legal relinquishing and awarding of rights that is an extensive process. Also, I don’t know many people who are willing to pay that kind of money for the undesirable unborn child of an obviously unfit mother.

Honestly, if you’re against abortion don’t have one and don’t ever ask a woman to have one. It’s that simple.

I have never had one and I never will.

I was "welfare raised". It made me not want to raise a kid like that, made me want to work harder.

I dont support my state's abortion laws. They allow a fully born child to be aborted on the table. They "will keep the child comfy til the mother decides". This is a law that just happened in the past couple years. This year, they took away the requirement that the parents have to hear the heartbeat before deciding to abort. Monsters.

I think any abortion after the first trimester is murder.

Yes, the adoption process is long and expensive, which is why a lot of parents that want to adopt, cant. Me being one of those parents.

Its the same way for the Mexicans that want to come here legally. Process is long and expensive, so they go another route.

Too much fucking red tape, and greed.

And SELFISH MOTHERFUCKERS!

I don’t condone that. Up to 14 weeks for anyone regardless of circumstances is all I will back and that’s just because of health issues and it’s so ass backwards here that most men are able to bail and have zero responsibility.

Most of these women wouldn’t qualify to give up their children in a private addition. A decent family isn’t going to want to risk issues with a state adoption either.

I’m proof that having an unplanned child out of wedlock doesn’t work even if you get married. I had my daughter at 18 (I was on the pill) and sacrificed 12 years of my life in a failing marriage to save my children from a single parent household.

We need to go back to focusing on a healthy marriage before children are considered.

14 weeks sounds about right to me.

My mom and dad got married early, when she was 15. I was born the month after she turned 16. They got divorced when I was 1, and I went to live with my great grandparents and my great aunt til I was 5.

I did not want my son to grow up without both parents either. Certain things happened though (she cheated, then got cancer and died).

Totally agree! Healthy marriage! Thats what is wrong with a lot of these young adults today, they were not parented properly.

damn… you’ve been through A LOT!

Lol, you have NO idea!! lol

my parents were young too… my mom was 15 and my dad was 17 when they met and they were married in January 77 and I came into the world that following May… my paternal grandmother, who was a virgin on her wedding night, swears I was conceived on a beach and hated my mother.

My mom is only 20 years older than me and she went though a horrific depression when they divorced when I was 8.

If you were born in '77, you're barely half a year younger than me lol. Lets see, you're mom was born in '57, mine in '60. You on a beach, I was conceived on a boat! lol

that’s funny that we have this in common lol

you’re the first straight male libra I encountered… I liked your qualities enough that I went out and found one of my own

Right!?

Lol, Im surprised you remembered!

Im actually a Scorpio born in a Libra cusp lol. I have the best traits of both!

Of course I remembered! I was living on Capital Hill going out dancing with my gubby (gay husband) and he was a Libra too when you told me… I was like I need to find one of these!!!!

Hahaha, thats awesome. We are gems for sure lol.

 

[Blazor]

Because some of them might see it as the only way out of their situations? And a lot of these girls come from troubled environments & broken homes.

Something tells me this law won't end well for many. Instead of saving lives it may end causing more deaths including the unborn child.

Anyways just a thought.

I disagree. I think it will lead to an increase in adoption. It’s a pregnancy, not the end of the world.

we already have solid statistics on unwanted pregnancy that confirms only 4% are adopted


It is much more likely that these women will end up on welfare and fall down a dismal hole of poverty that leads to drug use… and the child will inevitably become abused/neglected and end up in part of the already horrific child services system.

NO THANKS!

I think, if adoption was more affordable, and the government/state gave more incentives to parents wanting to adopt, instead of incentives to abort, it would make the world a better place.

If a pregnancy is unwanted, there are plenty of precautions to take beforehand, the "day after", or even in the first couple months.

The state will support abortion because they recognize that women with children on welfare remain on welfare and then create a child who will then rely on welfare. It’s a vicious cycle that we refer to as welfare raised in Cali.

Adoptions are expensive because there is a legal relinquishing and awarding of rights that is an extensive process. Also, I don’t know many people who are willing to pay that kind of money for the undesirable unborn child of an obviously unfit mother.

Honestly, if you’re against abortion don’t have one and don’t ever ask a woman to have one. It’s that simple.

I have never had one and I never will.

I was "welfare raised". It made me not want to raise a kid like that, made me want to work harder.

I dont support my state's abortion laws. They allow a fully born child to be aborted on the table. They "will keep the child comfy til the mother decides". This is a law that just happened in the past couple years. This year, they took away the requirement that the parents have to hear the heartbeat before deciding to abort. Monsters.

I think any abortion after the first trimester is murder.

Yes, the adoption process is long and expensive, which is why a lot of parents that want to adopt, cant. Me being one of those parents.

Its the same way for the Mexicans that want to come here legally. Process is long and expensive, so they go another route.

Too much fucking red tape, and greed.

And SELFISH MOTHERFUCKERS!

I don’t condone that. Up to 14 weeks for anyone regardless of circumstances is all I will back and that’s just because of health issues and it’s so ass backwards here that most men are able to bail and have zero responsibility.

Most of these women wouldn’t qualify to give up their children in a private addition. A decent family isn’t going to want to risk issues with a state adoption either.

I’m proof that having an unplanned child out of wedlock doesn’t work even if you get married. I had my daughter at 18 (I was on the pill) and sacrificed 12 years of my life in a failing marriage to save my children from a single parent household.

We need to go back to focusing on a healthy marriage before children are considered.

14 weeks sounds about right to me.

My mom and dad got married early, when she was 15. I was born the month after she turned 16. They got divorced when I was 1, and I went to live with my great grandparents and my great aunt til I was 5.

I did not want my son to grow up without both parents either. Certain things happened though (she cheated, then got cancer and died).

Totally agree! Healthy marriage! Thats what is wrong with a lot of these young adults today, they were not parented properly.

damn… you’ve been through A LOT!

Lol, you have NO idea!! lol

my parents were young too… my mom was 15 and my dad was 17 when they met and they were married in January 77 and I came into the world that following May… my paternal grandmother, who was a virgin on her wedding night, swears I was conceived on a beach and hated my mother.

My mom is only 20 years older than me and she went though a horrific depression when they divorced when I was 8.

If you were born in '77, you're barely half a year younger than me lol. Lets see, you're mom was born in '57, mine in '60. You on a beach, I was conceived on a boat! lol

that’s funny that we have this in common lol

you’re the first straight male libra I encountered… I liked your qualities enough that I went out and found one of my own

Right!?

Lol, Im surprised you remembered!

Im actually a Scorpio born in a Libra cusp lol. I have the best traits of both!

Of course I remembered! I was living on Capital Hill going out dancing with my gubby (gay husband) and he was a Libra too when you told me… I was like I need to find one of these!!!!

You were a token wife? WHHHHHHHY? This is not good.

I was a fag hag, silly

This is why liberalism is fucked! Poor choices...

I needed to heal from my divorce and gay men were safe. It’s not my position to judge anyone nor is it my responsibility to make sure they are “saved” or make it into heaven.

I was the prettiest girl in HS (according to my boyfriend) and I get a lot of attention when I go clubbing. Straight men at clubs are PIGS. I look like I’m early 30s too. The gay boys swore I was in my late 20s… but they were all on coke lol

Not gonna lie, I've seen it, a lot of straight men at "clubs" are indeed pigs, but not all.

Lol, I look like Im in my late 20s too lol.

Haha, I got the best treatment at gay bars too lol. Free shit left and right. My ex hated it lol. She would go to the counter to get a drink, have to wait forever, and come back with weak drinks. Next round, I said "watch this". I went up there, INSTANT service, and STRONG drinks.... with a smile hahahaha.

 

[LotusBud]

Because some of them might see it as the only way out of their situations? And a lot of these girls come from troubled environments & broken homes.

Something tells me this law won't end well for many. Instead of saving lives it may end causing more deaths including the unborn child.

Anyways just a thought.

I disagree. I think it will lead to an increase in adoption. It’s a pregnancy, not the end of the world.

we already have solid statistics on unwanted pregnancy that confirms only 4% are adopted


It is much more likely that these women will end up on welfare and fall down a dismal hole of poverty that leads to drug use… and the child will inevitably become abused/neglected and end up in part of the already horrific child services system.

NO THANKS!

I think, if adoption was more affordable, and the government/state gave more incentives to parents wanting to adopt, instead of incentives to abort, it would make the world a better place.

If a pregnancy is unwanted, there are plenty of precautions to take beforehand, the "day after", or even in the first couple months.

The state will support abortion because they recognize that women with children on welfare remain on welfare and then create a child who will then rely on welfare. It’s a vicious cycle that we refer to as welfare raised in Cali.

Adoptions are expensive because there is a legal relinquishing and awarding of rights that is an extensive process. Also, I don’t know many people who are willing to pay that kind of money for the undesirable unborn child of an obviously unfit mother.

Honestly, if you’re against abortion don’t have one and don’t ever ask a woman to have one. It’s that simple.

I have never had one and I never will.

I was "welfare raised". It made me not want to raise a kid like that, made me want to work harder.

I dont support my state's abortion laws. They allow a fully born child to be aborted on the table. They "will keep the child comfy til the mother decides". This is a law that just happened in the past couple years. This year, they took away the requirement that the parents have to hear the heartbeat before deciding to abort. Monsters.

I think any abortion after the first trimester is murder.

Yes, the adoption process is long and expensive, which is why a lot of parents that want to adopt, cant. Me being one of those parents.

Its the same way for the Mexicans that want to come here legally. Process is long and expensive, so they go another route.

Too much fucking red tape, and greed.

And SELFISH MOTHERFUCKERS!

They allow a fully born child to be aborted on the table? What does that mean, please?

 

[Blazor]

Because some of them might see it as the only way out of their situations? And a lot of these girls come from troubled environments & broken homes.

Something tells me this law won't end well for many. Instead of saving lives it may end causing more deaths including the unborn child.

Anyways just a thought.

I disagree. I think it will lead to an increase in adoption. It’s a pregnancy, not the end of the world.

we already have solid statistics on unwanted pregnancy that confirms only 4% are adopted


It is much more likely that these women will end up on welfare and fall down a dismal hole of poverty that leads to drug use… and the child will inevitably become abused/neglected and end up in part of the already horrific child services system.

NO THANKS!

I think, if adoption was more affordable, and the government/state gave more incentives to parents wanting to adopt, instead of incentives to abort, it would make the world a better place.

If a pregnancy is unwanted, there are plenty of precautions to take beforehand, the "day after", or even in the first couple months.

The state will support abortion because they recognize that women with children on welfare remain on welfare and then create a child who will then rely on welfare. It’s a vicious cycle that we refer to as welfare raised in Cali.

Adoptions are expensive because there is a legal relinquishing and awarding of rights that is an extensive process. Also, I don’t know many people who are willing to pay that kind of money for the undesirable unborn child of an obviously unfit mother.

Honestly, if you’re against abortion don’t have one and don’t ever ask a woman to have one. It’s that simple.

I have never had one and I never will.

I was "welfare raised". It made me not want to raise a kid like that, made me want to work harder.

I dont support my state's abortion laws. They allow a fully born child to be aborted on the table. They "will keep the child comfy til the mother decides". This is a law that just happened in the past couple years. This year, they took away the requirement that the parents have to hear the heartbeat before deciding to abort. Monsters.

I think any abortion after the first trimester is murder.

Yes, the adoption process is long and expensive, which is why a lot of parents that want to adopt, cant. Me being one of those parents.

Its the same way for the Mexicans that want to come here legally. Process is long and expensive, so they go another route.

Too much fucking red tape, and greed.

And SELFISH MOTHERFUCKERS!

They allow a fully born child to be aborted on the table? What does that mean, please?

Baby come out vagina, baby get killed.

 

[LotusBud]

Because some of them might see it as the only way out of their situations? And a lot of these girls come from troubled environments & broken homes.

Something tells me this law won't end well for many. Instead of saving lives it may end causing more deaths including the unborn child.

Anyways just a thought.

I disagree. I think it will lead to an increase in adoption. It’s a pregnancy, not the end of the world.

we already have solid statistics on unwanted pregnancy that confirms only 4% are adopted


It is much more likely that these women will end up on welfare and fall down a dismal hole of poverty that leads to drug use… and the child will inevitably become abused/neglected and end up in part of the already horrific child services system.

NO THANKS!

I think, if adoption was more affordable, and the government/state gave more incentives to parents wanting to adopt, instead of incentives to abort, it would make the world a better place.

If a pregnancy is unwanted, there are plenty of precautions to take beforehand, the "day after", or even in the first couple months.

The state will support abortion because they recognize that women with children on welfare remain on welfare and then create a child who will then rely on welfare. It’s a vicious cycle that we refer to as welfare raised in Cali.

Adoptions are expensive because there is a legal relinquishing and awarding of rights that is an extensive process. Also, I don’t know many people who are willing to pay that kind of money for the undesirable unborn child of an obviously unfit mother.

Honestly, if you’re against abortion don’t have one and don’t ever ask a woman to have one. It’s that simple.

I have never had one and I never will.

I was "welfare raised". It made me not want to raise a kid like that, made me want to work harder.

I dont support my state's abortion laws. They allow a fully born child to be aborted on the table. They "will keep the child comfy til the mother decides". This is a law that just happened in the past couple years. This year, they took away the requirement that the parents have to hear the heartbeat before deciding to abort. Monsters.

I think any abortion after the first trimester is murder.

Yes, the adoption process is long and expensive, which is why a lot of parents that want to adopt, cant. Me being one of those parents.

Its the same way for the Mexicans that want to come here legally. Process is long and expensive, so they go another route.

Too much fucking red tape, and greed.

And SELFISH MOTHERFUCKERS!

They allow a fully born child to be aborted on the table? What does that mean, please?

Baby come out vagina, baby get killed.

That is utter bullshit. Where do you come up with this bullshit?

 

[Blazor]

Because some of them might see it as the only way out of their situations? And a lot of these girls come from troubled environments & broken homes.

Something tells me this law won't end well for many. Instead of saving lives it may end causing more deaths including the unborn child.

Anyways just a thought.

I disagree. I think it will lead to an increase in adoption. It’s a pregnancy, not the end of the world.

we already have solid statistics on unwanted pregnancy that confirms only 4% are adopted


It is much more likely that these women will end up on welfare and fall down a dismal hole of poverty that leads to drug use… and the child will inevitably become abused/neglected and end up in part of the already horrific child services system.

NO THANKS!

I think, if adoption was more affordable, and the government/state gave more incentives to parents wanting to adopt, instead of incentives to abort, it would make the world a better place.

If a pregnancy is unwanted, there are plenty of precautions to take beforehand, the "day after", or even in the first couple months.

The state will support abortion because they recognize that women with children on welfare remain on welfare and then create a child who will then rely on welfare. It’s a vicious cycle that we refer to as welfare raised in Cali.

Adoptions are expensive because there is a legal relinquishing and awarding of rights that is an extensive process. Also, I don’t know many people who are willing to pay that kind of money for the undesirable unborn child of an obviously unfit mother.

Honestly, if you’re against abortion don’t have one and don’t ever ask a woman to have one. It’s that simple.

I have never had one and I never will.

I was "welfare raised". It made me not want to raise a kid like that, made me want to work harder.

I dont support my state's abortion laws. They allow a fully born child to be aborted on the table. They "will keep the child comfy til the mother decides". This is a law that just happened in the past couple years. This year, they took away the requirement that the parents have to hear the heartbeat before deciding to abort. Monsters.

I think any abortion after the first trimester is murder.

Yes, the adoption process is long and expensive, which is why a lot of parents that want to adopt, cant. Me being one of those parents.

Its the same way for the Mexicans that want to come here legally. Process is long and expensive, so they go another route.

Too much fucking red tape, and greed.

And SELFISH MOTHERFUCKERS!

They allow a fully born child to be aborted on the table? What does that mean, please?

Baby come out vagina, baby get killed.

That is utter bullshit. Where do you come up with this bullshit?

Im not lying Lotus. Governor Northam did this shit.

 

[Breakfall]

@Murdock ... American women enjoy dramatising everything.

we are 60% high fructose corn syrup estrogen psychos lol

You really are a spoilt and naive nation.

I’m a spoiled brat and proud of it

Each to there own. Now excuse me dear, I need to do my ritual sword practice, have a coffee and some avocado on toast, and go hunting for some surf. Xx

I’m my fathers only daughter… so it’s not my fault lol

Avocado on sourdough toast is my FAVE omg <3

I have one daughter and would love to spoil her, but alas, she can’t get over the fact that I left her with her two brothers and a cheating ex-wife. It was either I leave or beat the fuck out of the next ex-husband (#4) and regret my decision (for breaking him apart).

As an only daughter, do you think will she ever come around? At the moment I can’t deal with her constant negativity and feelings of abandonment. She’s a headstrong redhead with Scottish ancestry and a feminist hippie, which compounds issues. It’s one of the reasons why I practice arguing so much with LotusBottom...

Aaaaaaaaaagh...difficult daughters!

 

[Jeannie]

true story -

theres a tribe in africa where every yr they have a night when all the kids that reached adolescence get nekkid and the boys chase the girls like a game of tag until they catch one, then they have sex

its not rape, more a shits n giggles sort of thing in their culture

anyways, any pregnancies that result, they have this one sacred tree the girls will climb and jump off of while landing on their butts over and over until the miscarriage happens

 

[Lokmar]

Because some of them might see it as the only way out of their situations? And a lot of these girls come from troubled environments & broken homes.

Something tells me this law won't end well for many. Instead of saving lives it may end causing more deaths including the unborn child.

Anyways just a thought.

I disagree. I think it will lead to an increase in adoption. It’s a pregnancy, not the end of the world.

we already have solid statistics on unwanted pregnancy that confirms only 4% are adopted


It is much more likely that these women will end up on welfare and fall down a dismal hole of poverty that leads to drug use… and the child will inevitably become abused/neglected and end up in part of the already horrific child services system.

NO THANKS!

I think, if adoption was more affordable, and the government/state gave more incentives to parents wanting to adopt, instead of incentives to abort, it would make the world a better place.

If a pregnancy is unwanted, there are plenty of precautions to take beforehand, the "day after", or even in the first couple months.

The state will support abortion because they recognize that women with children on welfare remain on welfare and then create a child who will then rely on welfare. It’s a vicious cycle that we refer to as welfare raised in Cali.

Adoptions are expensive because there is a legal relinquishing and awarding of rights that is an extensive process. Also, I don’t know many people who are willing to pay that kind of money for the undesirable unborn child of an obviously unfit mother.

Honestly, if you’re against abortion don’t have one and don’t ever ask a woman to have one. It’s that simple.

I have never had one and I never will.

I was "welfare raised". It made me not want to raise a kid like that, made me want to work harder.

I dont support my state's abortion laws. They allow a fully born child to be aborted on the table. They "will keep the child comfy til the mother decides". This is a law that just happened in the past couple years. This year, they took away the requirement that the parents have to hear the heartbeat before deciding to abort. Monsters.

I think any abortion after the first trimester is murder.

Yes, the adoption process is long and expensive, which is why a lot of parents that want to adopt, cant. Me being one of those parents.

Its the same way for the Mexicans that want to come here legally. Process is long and expensive, so they go another route.

Too much fucking red tape, and greed.

And SELFISH MOTHERFUCKERS!

They allow a fully born child to be aborted on the table? What does that mean, please?

Baby come out vagina, baby get killed.

That is utter bullshit. Where do you come up with this bullshit?

If it were utter bullshit, you people would have agreed to prohibit abortions at 6 months.

 

[Breakfall]

true story -

theres a tribe in africa where every yr they have a night when all the kids that reached adolescence get nekkid and the boys chase the girls like a game of tag until they catch one, then they have sex

its not rape, more a shits n giggles sort of thing in their culture

anyways, any pregnancies that result, they have this one sacred tree the girls will climb and jump off of while landing on their butts over and over until the miscarriage happens

Bullshit...there’s muti from the singoma for that. You seppos are way too gullible. Stick with ‘Merican twisted truths. Love you for trying though. Xx